Dallas Leaders Walked Arm-in-Arm with John Wiley Price in the Betrayal of Southern Dallas

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Richard Allen saw the destiny of Dallas in lines on the land. Dallas couldn't see it.

You could almost forget about the indictment last week of Dallas County Commissioner John Wiley Price, put it out of your mind's eye, not even think where it will end and better spend your time thinking about trucking. It's the more compelling story.

Logistics is the business of taking cargo off ships, putting it on trains, taking it off the trains and putting it in warehouses, storing it and sending it where it needs to go. It's enormously technical and computer driven. Richard Allen is the head of one of the world's premiere logistics companies.

At some point before 2000, Allen looked at a map of the United States and a pattern leaped out at him like Peruvian Nasca lines etched in the surface of the planet, visible from 30,000 feet up but unknown to the people who plod across it every day. What Allen saw was a pinwheel of highways and railroad lines spinning out across North America with a central hub in a place he had never thought of before called southern Dallas.

That pattern was a gigantic skeleton of 19th century trade routes. The creation myth Dallas likes to tell itself for some bizarre reason -- how it was established in the middle of nowhere for no good reason but made it anyway, sort of the plucky nitwit theory of our origins -- has always been nonsense. Dallas was settled at a confluence of Indian trade routes that hardened into roads. Daguerreotype pictures in the Dallas Public Library Texas and Dallas Collection made before the Civil War show wagon trains loaded with goods stretching over the horizon, leaving Dallas bound for Mexico and the Southwest.

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After the Civil War when North Texas became the world's biggest cotton producing region, those roads hardened into highways and rail lines. Dallas continued to be a major continental shipping hub into the second half of the 20th century, until trucks running helter-skelter on freeways blew up the old hardscape infrastructure of shipping by making it irrelevant.

But at the end of the 20th century with fuel costs pinching hard, trains came back into vogue; Richard Allen looked at a map; and there it was still, the bone structure of a continental shipping hub based in southern Dallas.

There was a rub. The North Texas region already had a major logistics center at Alliance, the freight airport developed by the powerful Perot family near neighboring Fort Worth. But Allen viewed Alliance as in the wrong place, stuck up in a corner of the region, underserved by rail and freeways, a kind of monument to the Texas "build-it-and-they-will-come" mentality. His thinking was, "Yeah, but build it where they already are, and you'll do way better."

He checked land costs. He couldn't believe it. Land in southern Dallas was almost free by the standards of Southern California, the Chicago area and other places where his company operated. And southern Dallas suffered from huge long-term unemployment. He wrongly and naively interpreted that as a large available workforce.

In the late 1990s he came to town silently, as one does when one wants to buy a lot of land, and by 2005 he had put together 5,000 acres in southern Dallas and Dallas County, enough to form the nucleus of a 60-million-square-foot warehousing center that he believed would become the largest on the continent, providing between 40,000 and 60,000 jobs.

In 2006 Ross Perot Jr. told a luncheon of the Fort Worth Chamber of Commerce that Allen's planned development in Dallas was a "direct threat" to Alliance. Especially in the wake of the Price indictment last week, the Perot position on the Dallas Inland Port has been seized by some observers as proof of a conspiracy in which Perot used Price to sabotage Allen's project. There is already stuff being written about why the Perots aren't in trouble with Price. We'll see. Story not yet told.

But for conspirators they sure were obvious about it. As far along as 2008 the Perot-owned development company, Hillwood, was talking pretty damn frankly and pretty damn publicly about not wanting Dallas to steal a march on them in gobbling up scarce public infrastructure dollars. They told me they weren't afraid of Allen as a business competitor, but they were concerned about Dallas going down to Austin and diverting a lot of public dollars from them, especially in highway money. That wasn't business, they said. That was politics. And they didn't intend to lose at either one.

David Pelletier, Hillwood's director of corporate communications, said to me in 2008: "Our point is that at Alliance we have 30 million square feet developed and 29,000 employees. Alliance is a proven commodity. Our point is, let's finish Alliance, extend the runway to where it needs to be extended to, get the rail infrastructure completed, the highway infrastructure completed before we start spending infrastructure dollars on a project that hasn't really proven itself yet."

That was fully three years after Price had begun his very open campaign to slow down the Inland Port in Dallas. Price, too, was right out front about it, openly fighting to delay a key decision on granting Allen an important free trade zone, fighting to slow down a crucial bridge construction project, insisting that Allen's five years of planning had produced nothing worthwhile and that the process needed to be started again from scratch -- a deftly planted poison pill where potential buyers were concerned.

In this effort the leadership of Dallas walked arm-in-arm, shoulder-to-shoulder with Price. Before the Perots targeted the Inland Port, Dallas City Council members Sandy Greyson and Bill Blaydes had championed the Inland Port at City Hall, putting together a stunning string of national and international agreements to guarantee its growth. After the Perots called foul, the port project was snatched away from Greyson and Blaydes and turned over to Mayor Tom Leppert and council member Ron Natinsky. From that point on Dallas' treatment of Allen turned into a jail-yard beat-down.

Allen even took it in the gut from the city's only daily newspaper. When he refused to give away a slice of his family-owned company -- give it away -- to a group of Price associates in exchange for political peace, The Dallas Morning News in an editorial used dog-whistle terms to paint Allen as a racist:

"Going forward, white-dominated companies must keep foremost in mind the unique history of southern Dallas," the paper said. "It is not simply a great business opportunity to be exploited for maximum profit."

Even the paper's respected and normally evenhanded reporting staff picked up the theme that Allen was somehow the bad guy. In a story under the shared byline of political columnist Gromer Jeffers and county reporter Kevin Krause, the paper reported as simple fact that, "Allen, who is white, appeared blind to the county's complicated racial politics."

Strange if true, given that Allen has operated all over the country and has never been accused of being blind to anybody else's complicated racial politics -- never. Then again, maybe our racial politics really are more complicated than everyone else's, a thought that should keep us awake nights.

In the decade that has been lost to the Dallas project, the Perots have been successful in attracting billions of dollars in public infrastructure to their project and the region around it. They said they would do it. They did it. Is that a crime?

The Inland Port, meanwhile, languished through the tough economic downturn but did not die. Allen's basic insight, after all, wasn't going away. Those lines are still waiting there in the surface of the earth, as if drawn by messengers from the past trying to tell Dallas about the future. The port may happen anyway, but only after Allen was put into bankruptcy and only after a full decade was lost.

A person close to all of it who would speak to me only without attribution said yesterday, "What about the decade of kids growing up in South Dallas who didn't get those jobs, who didn't have the future that would have meant for them? You can't get that back, either."

The federal prosecution of Price, who is accused of taking bribes, will proceed, and we will learn a lot more about all of this as it does. But even without the trial, if Price never had been indicted, Dallas would have tough questions to ask of itself. In fact, I think the city's betrayal of itself in the Inland Port project is way more difficult to fathom and more interesting, in a terrible way, than any criminal conspiracy could be.

In what started out as a fair fight between two competing business ideas -- one enormously promising for Dallas, the other for Fort Worth -- why did Dallas leaders go in the tank, take a dive, throw the fight? The Perots are a powerful Dallas family, but their project, Alliance, is in Fort Worth. Why wouldn't Dallas have stood up for Dallas?

We can't paint the abandonment of southern Dallas as racist, exactly, because of Price's role in helping to abandon it. Price is an especially edgy piece of the puzzle only because he's black, and black leaders are supposed to fight for the economic interests of their constituents. But what about white leaders? Allen's concept would have been hugely beneficial to all of Dallas, not just black southern Dallas. What was the white people's excuse?

I've known Price for a long time. I look at him sometimes, and I don't see a black guy anyway. I see a Dallas guy. He's a typical Dallas guy who worships money. He loves the thrill of the deal. He thinks of hardworking pluggers as just shy of losers and worse. In 2008, when I asked him how he could oppose something that promised so many jobs in southern Dallas, he told me sneeringly he associated labor with slavery.

In fact he put that thought in a letter to Allen. "During slavery," he wrote, "everybody had a job."

Put it in writing. That proud of it. That may be a cynicism so profound that it transcends race, or descends it. I wonder sometimes. If all anybody really believes in is the big money and the fast deal, is there no one left out there to believe in the city?



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Flabbergasted
Flabbergasted

Good summary.

Now, Jim, when you awaken from the blind fever you have and realize the SAME people, Leppert, Perot and others, are also behind the fraud, waste and abuse of DISD...They had Rawlings and Duncan choose Miles to help destroy DISD by scaring off its best, veteran teachers, and are also behind the "Home Rule" plan, then you will finally help Dallas.

It is always about the money. You are groggy, but you must wake  up.

MikeWestEast
MikeWestEast

I expect the trial will show the only person that actually bribed Mr. Price was be Ms. Nealy.  Everybody else paid consulting fees to her to influence the process.  Everything was structured to provide full transparency on all dealings with her.  I would expect every businessperson provided to the penny documentation of every transaction with her in their first meetings with FBI.  They likely provided her contracts that should have boilerplate about no monies will be used to bypass bribery laws.  They likely had plenty of witnesses to attest that Mr. Price's name never even arose in their discussions.  They already flipped on the bribery and did not even ask for a deal.  They were covered and acted as good citizens should.


The businesspersons forced Ms. Nealy to break the law with very little leeway.  The only way to get money to him was to use naked, seemingly stupid, blatant transactions.  No cover was available to her.  Smarter, less greedy people would have recognized the danger and passed on deal.  Mr. Price went for the money and then could not figure our what to do with it.  He kept it at home.

rusknative
rusknative

“When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion- When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing- when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors- when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you- when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice- you may know that your society is doomed.”  – Rand

moore6837
moore6837

Jim, this is the first time I've agreed with you in a very long time. I got news for JWP. Hard work leads to a feeling of self worth and pride in self that cannot be bought, sold, stolen, destroyed or pawned. If he really thinks labor is akin to slavery than god help us all. All he's done for the past 30 years is run his mouth about racism all the while purporting to be helping the people of south Dallas. Now we see he had a hand in putting a torpedo in the very economic engine south Dallas needed to pull it out of the s*** hole it is. What a complete two faced turd. If the Perot's are in on this they need to prosecuted as well. If the former Mayor had a hand it go after him. If this is all BS then shame on you.

cwi4691
cwi4691

I haven't always agreed with you, but this article should be plastered on every street corner in Dallas, especially South Dallas that keeps electing greedy jerks like John Wiley Price. Everyone in South Dallas who whines about how they are always left out of everything and why aren't more businesses locating there should be force-fed this article and asked if they agree with John Wiely Price's assessment: 'In 2008, when I asked him how he could oppose something that promised so many jobs in southern Dallas, he told me sneeringly he associated labor with slavery." 


So, here we are. The truth finally comes out. What they really want is not jobs, but to be taken care of. Isn't that the very definition of slavery? John Wiley Price may want that, but somehow I don't think the people of South Dallas really agree with him at all. It's time for them to stand up and be counted. What do they really want?


And lets not allow the Perot’s off the hook either, there is no doubt that they are cynical, greedy jerks too. Hope we find out how much they paid Price to kill the South Dallas Inland Port deal and all their other cisterns of slimy deals. Hope it all gets unwound along with John Wiley.

mindingthestore
mindingthestore

why didn't Dallas leaders support the inland port in S. Dallas? Two words: Ross Perot--- and his billions. It doesn't get much simpler than that.

John Wiley may be on trial, but I don't expect the Perots and other "money boys" to be touched. It's the Dallas way.

phipho5490
phipho5490

Leppert and Perot need to be n the dock right there with him. It will be interesting to see if they can get a jury to nullify if they think the prosecution is selective.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

Google Jefferson TX vs. Dallas TX and Steven J Gould, history of the railroad

whareagle
whareagle

I'd like to draw a parallel of FW getting the goods while Dallas shot itself in the foot or worse. I remember the fight over Love field, both the original argument about D/FW vs Love, and the latter fight over the repeal of the Wright Amendment, which itself led to more restrictions on Love and SWA, mostly. 


In my view, if we really, truly believe in a free-market economy, and we're all about Libertarian this and Conservative Business Leadership that... well, FW could have quite easily developed Meacham, or Carswell to become THEIR version of Love Field, and I bet a dollar that SWA would have started paying landing fees there as well. Instead, FW threw a fit, claimed injustice for DFW airport, and hamstrung everything. The result is that the most efficient, consistent (present history notwithstanding), and profitable airline in the country is maxed out at Love, and AA is now owned by someone else, and Eagle is about to change names again. Max out Love, Max out Carswell Regional, and keep the planes flying in and out of D/FW, AND WE ALL GET RICH! Leave Air Traffic to the Controllers, pay everyone, get public transportation to the sliding doors of all three airports, and SHUT UP. 


One final thought - develop McKinney into a regional, and put an industrial airport in SE Dallas (which dovetails nicely in to THIS story, about the Inland Port, which will need a long runwayed airport), KEEP Alliance for the NW area, and again.... LET'S ALL GET RICH!!! 


I remember the first article Schutze wrote about the Port. It would've brought in billions in taxes, jobs, good wages, and it would've been a logistical model for the entire century. The harm to Allen and his investors, as well as to the people in the region, is absolutely shameful. I used to believe the Perots were really good folks, and I still admire Ross, Sr. for some things he said and did in his prime, and again in '92 when he ran for office, but the actions of the family, and the politicians who literally are holding the city back, and then distracting us with dancing orangutan-type diversions, leave me wondering just where they all learned their ethics. If it was in 'Church', well, out them, too. 


I hope JWP spends the rest of his life behind bars. He personally offended me with comments and actions when he gave a speech with a q and a, wayyyy back in the mid 80's. That he got the privilege of 'serving' for another 3+ decades reflects on the entire county, race politics, wage politics, and the false assumption that we're all competing for scarce resources, when the truth is that we ALL could have developed and grown enough for everyone. 


Finally, I just hope Schutze keeps up the sleuthing and opinions, and I REALLY hope that he's grooming his replacement, because it just seems like the other newshounds out there these days are not as good a writers, investigators, and trail-explainers. Schutze would have made a WONDERFUL FBI Fraud investigator. I hope they themselves are following his stories about this particular subject. 

smichaelclark59
smichaelclark59

Great story thanks for trying to educated the public and get the truth out. 

phillipsmicah69
phillipsmicah69

To me it should have always been a motivation to build the Inland because of job creation. I've been motivated to get politically involved because I was one of those kids deprived from work in south Dallas county, and all of my development projects are based off of job creation not low income housing. Time will tell on who's guilty of what, but one thing I can say, from the perspective of a kid that grew up in Joppa, Sing Hills and Oak Cliff, that time has already spoken on the area in south Dallas, because it looks like an era from slavery!! No jobs, no movies, no major mall, no major restaurants, no major employment plaza!!! Far from where I grew up!!!!

-Micah B. Phillips

chargerdog
chargerdog

The Perots are going down. Maybe as far as the "crazy aunt in the basement".

NOWiGETit
NOWiGETit

Sadly, while the cat's away, the mice will play.


JWP and his ilk are the result of an apathetic constituency.  That's the only way people can stick around selling the city out for so little (relatively speaking).  Here's hoping this is the kind of wake up call the city needs.  I'm not holding my breath though.

SchutzeNeedsaHug
SchutzeNeedsaHug

Good grief. This article is a mess. Very poorly written including all manner of supposition and odd tangents. We need good journalists, particularly those willing to take on difficult, controversial issues. But reading this mess detracts substantially from any credibility the author seeks to obtain. Perhaps a longer, clearer piece is forthcoming. That would be welcome. 

Sidewalk
Sidewalk

Notice, Tesla is now eyeing southern Dallas County for their battery gigafactory for the same reasons that Allen did.

feldnick
feldnick

I can't help but notice that many in the Blogosphere, and many who comment on these articles have already concluded that John Wiley Price is guilty. God forbid that any of us should find ourselves in JWP's position, but if I ever do, I hope that I will be considered "innocent until proven guilty". 

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

Having pulled containers out of both yards, Alliance and Dallas South, I can say it is a travesty that the Inland Port project was allowed to dust up and fade into obscurity.  The UP rail facility in South Dallas far exceeds the BNSF facility at alliance.  Even the switch yard at Shiloh and NW Hwy is better than Alliance in terms of access to major transportation routes for trucks, and to say that yard is rudimentary is to be generous.  The So Dallas UP container facility is fully paved, there is a scale right outside the gate, it is close to the major container trucking companies (at least six along So. Central, and yet another rail container offload site), and you have immediate access to major north/south and east/west arteries.  Inland Port is a perfectly situated and planned development site for interstate trucking, with all of the outlying needs that Alliance would like to "finish Alliance, extend the runway to where it needs to be extended to, get the rail infrastructure completed, the highway infrastructure completed" in place already, except for the extended runway. (Which could have been realized if Dallas Executive Apt would have become Dallas Freight Apt.)  Inland Port would have, even coming late in the game, had an enormous headstart on infrastructure and access over Alliance.  As it is, I pulled containers out of the DFW area for a shade over two years, long haul and local, and ended up pulling about 60% out of So Dallas, from a 'dead' project.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas

@moore6837 Sadly, I have to agree with much of your description of the utter division JWP has sewn in his community and in greater Dallas.  Is it any surprise he's been charged with embezzling and stealing money from his own people and constituents in the six figures; money he with which he was entrusted by the Kwanza celebration organization?

Price has 'gotten away with murder' for years.  Like Obama, he doesn't want to work with white people or Latinos to get things done and better conditions for South Dallas.  Instead, it's all about him and all about his getting richer off taxpayers and those willing to bribe him. 

There is a strong rumor that JWP has also been shaking down black businesses for various things, including just remaining in business. The FBI will tell you that it normally goes along with demanding and accepting bribes. 

When the change of venue is accomplished, to keep Price from threatening his own people and a Democrat judge, I believe he'll spend the rest of his life in prison.  He SHOULD have been removed from office the minute he was indicted. But, Jenkins is too much of a Price stooge (and a lawyer) to show integrity in this matter. 



ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@whareagle Uh AA is still owned by AA, the merged with USair kept the American name, changed the ticker symbol and got new management.  Eagle hasnt gone anywhere, granted AA stole the name to market it as a brand instead of a company but it still exits and the employees who worked for legacy Eagle are the same but with the Envoy name, and its not going to change again.

wcvemail
wcvemail

@SchutzeNeedsaHug

Well, Miss Thrushbottom, we're surely sorry to hear that you're disappointed in the paucity of punctiliousness. Also, your third phrase is an incomplete sentence, and your support hose are sagging.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@Sidewalk Tesla aint coming here, if they do come to Texas, they go to San Antonio.  Elon Musk aint playing that equity game with Dallas

maxim2
maxim2

So which dallas politico is going to shake them down???

Taking bets?

rusknative
rusknative

@feldnick JWP is guilty of wearing a stupid bow tie, cornrowing his stupid hair, speaking stupid words that mean nothing intelligent, and acting like an egotistic jerk.  Enough for me.....send him to live with the Al Queda and Hamas folks....they are close ideologically....white christians need to die.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@feldnick When you've committed the crime in front of your Jury of peers for 30 plus years, yeah he gets judged

Guesty
Guesty

@feldnick 


"Innocent until proven guilty" is something that happens in a court.  John Wiley Price will have to deal with that legal world, and he should get the benefit of that rule.


But he also is a public official, and that requires that the public at large make a judgment about him, his motivations, his truthfulness, etc.  John Wiley Price has been very public with very questionable behavior for a very long time.  There are times, e.g. the inland port, when he almost seems proud of the fact that he killed a deal because he and his friends did not get a cut.  The only logical explanation of those actions are that he acts out of extreme self interest.  As a result, I am much more inclined to believe the allegations in the indictment. 

86753099
86753099

Buddy, you can't compare "us" to JWP. He has been running around doing this kinda stuff for decades.

So please spare us the sad song BS!

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

@feldnick 

I agree with you on the innocent until proven guilty, but the one thing that I am curious about is how JWP was able carry on this "governmental facilitation" for  over 15 years.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@RTGolden1 I'd think the Inland Port's distance from DFW, and other airports would make it a potential airport as well.  Alliance's proximity to DFW can't be good for air traffic control

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

@RTGolden1 

Do you think that UP saw the same thing when they built their intermodal yard?

It was started in 2005 and I couldn't find many local news articles on it.

I wonder if any equity partners had approached UP?

whareagle
whareagle

@ScottsMerkin @whareagle It's changed enough, and I'm no fan of USAir and their pathetic history of customer treatment, either. 


Eagle's about to change names again. 


I'm not worried about those airlines or their positions. Eagle has space at Love, and could fly ATR's or Embraer's out of any of the airports I mentioned above. The point is that FW could and should develop its' own commercial regionals, so that FW residents have options, Dallas residents have options, all of N. Texas has OPTIONS, and CHOICE improves markets. 


Back to Lancaster ---- I was peripherally involved in some S. Dallas activities in the 90's and 00's, and I'm certain that the powers that be are guilty of much, much more than ignorance. It's not a hoarding of resources. It's a denial of resource acquisition and distribution to a huge potential market. S. Dallas could've been, and hopefully some day WILL be, able to fulfill its' potential as a middle-class wealth builder through the Port, a regional airport... something. JWP cock-blocked it for over a decade, and like the article or comments say - we lost time, money, momentum, impressions, investors... all of it. Meanwhile Alliance grew, in the exact way Schutze described. It just saddens me that JWP et al, including the three previous mayors, stood by or were actively involved in denying the Port its' opportunity to grow. It sure as hell wasn't because they were worried about the environment down there. 

mrro1
mrro1

@wcvemail @SchutzeNeedsaHug


Way to completely miss the point dude.  The article IS poorly written and hard to follow in places.  The commenter had a good point: this is an important subject and thus it deserves quality writing.


Attacking the commenter's grammar, in an internet comment thread no less, is petty and does nothing but make you look like a fool lacking the requisite intelligence to grasp the ACTUAL point the commenter is trying to make.

mrro1
mrro1

@rusknative @feldnick Please leave Dallas and return to whatever backwards Alabama hell hole it is you escaped from.

Politcally_Incorrect
Politcally_Incorrect

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul @feldnick To many, he is guilty before proven in a court of law.  I am one of them.

All that he has to do is explain how he can have 8 cars, $250K in his safe, a $500K house and an expensive art collection on a $120K a year salary.  Once that is done, then I will consider being politically correct and wait for a verdict from a jury.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul @feldnick While I agree that JWP is innocent unless proved to be guilty, he's been doing this stuff and "cutting corners" toward getting rich that it's an open secret.


His whole schtick has been flaunting the law and showing defiance toward white people when there was absolutely no such issue on the table.


He's been charged to assaults, and all manner of law violations.  But, his race and elective office have kept him out of jail. 


No longer. 

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@scottindallas @RTGolden1 Midway and ORD do just fine in terms of air traffic control, relatively speaking, now NYC, that's a whole different story

DerpDudeTX
DerpDudeTX

@RTGolden1  The UP was already in South Dallas County prior to the new facility being built off of I-45 in Wilmer. They had a much smaller outdated facility that originally belonged to the SP on South Central Expressway near Ledbetter. The new Dallas Intermodal Terminal is just another in a long line of expanded intermodal facilities for UP. They have opened new terminals in San Antonio and Santa Teresa NM in the past few years also. The containerized freight is coming to our area whether there is an "Inland Port" owned by Allen or not. The volume continues to grow every year. JWP's meddling in the project, along with Tom Leppert, is just another failure in a long line of failures to bring economic development to the South.

tdkisok
tdkisok

@RTGolden1 


"Having pulled containers out of both yards, Alliance and Dallas South, I can say it is a travesty that the Inland Port project was allowed to dust up and fade into obscurity."


AMEN!! JWP fucked over the very same people who elected him because he wanted to get PAID. The poorest part of the county to boot. I hope that scumbag spends the rest of his life in jail.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@whareagle @ScottsMerkin Hint, all US airlines suck, even Southwest. Where do you get your Eagle name change info, its very wrong. Eagle doesnt have any space at Love, AA/Eagle did and they have to get rid of it.  Why would Fort Worth/Tarrant County develop a commercial regional airport to compete with DFW, when they already get 99% of the taxes that go with flying into DFW and piss off AAG, its largest taxpayer?  I honestly dont see why people hate DFW so much, its in the exact center of the metro area and with all our major freeway connectors its no more than 30 minutes from most parts of the 'plex.  We can all agree JWP fucked So Dallas

epicmale
epicmale

@DerpDudeTX Please don't blame Leppert!  After all, he was busy spending tax dollars on a city owned hotel. 

kfries1
kfries1

@tdkisok @RTGolden1

TDKISOK wrote:

"AMEN!! JWP fucked over the very same people who elected him because he wanted to get PAID."
Even if Price got his pound of flesh, he still would be carrying water for The Allen Group's competition. He'd just be drawing checks from both Alliance and TAG. He'd just bleed TAG dry. I'll be curious to see if the idiots who fronted for Price and demanded 15% equity are getting hauled in as either defendents or witnesses.

whareagle
whareagle

@ScottsMerkin @whareagle I think the article's point is that it wasn't just JWP. It was Mayor goodhair, and I'll be the first to believe it was one or two mayors before him. Schutze's first article on the Port is at least ten years old now, right? Yet that sound of BNSF and TSX hybrid locomotives rolling hasn't occurred yet, and the sound of GE and P & W jets climbing and descending from Lancaster's 3-mile long runway hasn't happened yet, and the warehouses haven't happened yet, etc. 


The Eagle name change is moot. 


The airport analogy was meant to imply that Dallas should have flexed some economic muscle and pushed harder to get this Port rolling, regardless of who was in the way. And the Perots could've enjoyed the gains by investing in it as well. Why have one when you can have two at twice the price?


I don't hate DFW airport. I realize AA's economic impact. I just think that if we're looking at regional gains, FW continues to grow out, while the Dallas half continues to be hobbled by its' own politics and the DCC. 


I guess we could get in to the actual economic benefits of the Trinity Tollway (there actually are some, and they have everything to do with the Stemmons family land and legacy), but let's stick to the topic at hand.


scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@ScottsMerkin @whareagle Scotts, Gravevine gets 70% of DFW tax revenue, Tarrant county enjoys a kiss from that, and FW certainly gets more from DFW than Dallas.  

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas

@whareagle @ScottsMerkin DFW has done more for Dallas, Ft. Worth, and North Texas than any single project I can think of.  Close, however, was the enormous Super Conducting  Super Collider near Ennis which was killed by Democrats. 

The amount of money Democrats threw away by killing that project already in progress was staggering, and incredibly expensive for the Greater Dallas Area.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@whareagle @ScottsMerkin Im cool with sticking to the topic but you brought up the airline stuff, and I happen to know a lot about that.  Im totally not against another port here in DFW area, there is so much freight that already comes through here that adding the So Dallas inland port i think would have only brought even more Freight business to our area.  We all know why Dallas doesnt fight DFW more, its the buddy buddy backslap kickback, concessions, board positions that keep Dallas from fighting DFW

whareagle
whareagle

@ScottsMerkin @whareagle agreed - the whole issue is sorta moot as well, since it's now going to be in the hands of the courts for the rest of our natural lives. 


Sad, just sad. 


Per this link, some part of Eagle is now 'Envoy'., http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2014/04/american-eagle-airlines-becomes-envoy-air-today-april-15-2014.html/


Schutze - would you drum up your original, happy, positive article from the early 00's, please? Man, that was the article that really gave me hope. 

ScottsMerkin
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@whareagle No worries, I thought I said that up top about Legacy Eagle being Envoy.  My wife works for them, they have been Envoy since about April.  The planes will always say Eagle with an "Operated by Envoy" or which ever regional is operating them sticker, as AAG stole the corporate name from them and and turned it into a brand and made them rename, even though they built the name.  Im ready for the Shutze courthouse live blog

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