Welcome to the 'Hood, Kids: Visiting the Grand Prairie School Expected to House Migrants

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Emily Mathis
Lamar Alternative Education Center will soon house unaccompanied Central American kids, provided the district and city first work out logistics with neighborhood residents.
Lamar Alternative Education Center used to be Lamar Elementary. It's part of the Grand Prairie Independent School District, and it officially closed its doors at the end of the 2013 school year because of low attendance. Today, the school sits empty in a working-class neighborhood, and looks the part of a schoolhouse hastily abandoned: A peek through the windows reveals the lights are turned on, but no occupants. Child-sized plastic chairs, some toppled haphazardly, are strewn about the foyer. Crumpled pieces of paper and broken school supplies litter the linoleum tile.

This school, forgotten by most until just a few weeks ago, will likely be the new temporary home to more than a thousand Honduran, Guatemalan, and Salvadoran children. And it could open its doors to these kids within the month.

Elisha Caudle, a neighbor, attended Lamar Elementary as a child, when the school taught kindergarten through 5th grade. "I do feel sad to see it change," she told Unfair Park when we visited the neighborhood last week. "I went there to school for six years. But it is what it is." She said there are still too many questions that the city has to answer before residents feel comfortable with the neighboring shelter. "We're mostly wondering about the discipline part of it. I mean, is there going to be gang members in it?"

The City of Grand Prairie sent a letter to each of these residents detailing the intended use for Lamar, which is how Rebecca Parks first heard of the intended shelter. Parks lives down the street from Lamar, next to a community park, and has young children of her own. She said she doesn't mind the immigrant children being transplanted to Lamar, as long as they keep to themselves.

"I don't want a bunch of kids running around unsupervised. But people are saying they're not even going to be allowed off the property," she said. "I'm just worried there's going to be a bunch of fighting in there. How do we know they're going to get along? And if they're teenagers they're not going to want to stay on the property."

Ramzi Farah lives across the street from the school. He is most concerned about his property value dropping. He said the school grounds are often used by neighborhood families for community events and pick-up baseball and basketball games.

"It's a good cause, but when you put it in a neighborhood we have the right to know way beforehand," Farah said. When Lamar Elementary was first converted to Lamar Alternative Education Center, the property value of neighborhood homes dropped, he said. "My property is going to dramatically drop value again. I mean do you want to live next to a facility that could have fences and cameras? It's going to look like living next to a prison. That's what people are mostly concerned about."

The City of Dallas has recently expressed doubts that some of the proposed shelter property could be ready by the end of July. Grand Prairie ISD officials, in particular, have said Lamar is not yet ready for occupants. But unlike other propsed sites, Lamar has not seen an outpouring of protests. Most neighborhood residents agree that while there are still logistics to consider, housing the kids at Lamar would be a good thing to do.

Farah is himself an immigrant, and has spent a good part of his 20 years in the United States learning how to navigate the immigration system. "For the act itself, of sheltering the kids, I don't see it's wrong," he said. Raised in Haifa, Israel as a Christian, Farah aid, he can relate to the children in how they're stuck in the middle of two governments.

"For me, I totally understand. I'm not Jewish and I'm not Muslim, but I'm an Israeli Christian. So I'm in the middle basically." He smiled slightly. "Just like those kids."

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observist
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Another glorious day at Unfair Park where the same people line up day after day to take opposite sides of every single issue, equally certain that all the problems of the world are caused by the other.


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TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

This could be an economic plus for GP. All those kids and the thousands to come will need lawyers, social workers, cooks, laundry, security and such. The Feds will likely hire local, except for perhaps the lawyers, and they pay well.

davej.francis
davej.francis

 The House Democrats are growing progressively more disturbed about GOP voice in revising the 2008 human trafficking law in a deal for approving the President $3.7 billion emergency funding appeal to address the illegal alien crisis at the Mexican/US border. This would place children from Central America, on the same footing as Mexicans and Canadian aliens and be able to accelerate hearings and deportation. If ICE and Human Services communicated, perhaps also hundreds of millions of aliens living here, could be caught when claiming a child or a number of offspring? Of course the Liberals have no intentions of consenting to these efforts and will fight for passage of what they call a “clean” supplement as without the amendment; as it means more Dem voters in the future years, and hundreds of thousands of early petitions for family members brought into the country, by current policies. 

This will accrue even more poverty, more benefits upon the already hard pressed taxpayers who will get the bill. The National Tea Party candidates would never hesitate to amend 2008 law, unlike the OLD GUARD in the establishment. Social Security is already running into trouble, along with Medicare in the future as nothing has been done for three decades to stop this roaring financial locomotive towards unsure losses in the future. Yet Obama is striving to gain headway, on bringing more poor into the country? 

The National TEA PARTY STATES NO IMMIGRATION REFORM, WITHOUT SEALING THE BORDER. NO IMMIGRATION REFORM. NO PATH TO CITIZENSHIP.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

By the time Obama assumed office in January, 2009, there were 11.1 million undocumented immigrants living in the United States according to the Pew Hispanic Center.  The Republicans, as with other issues they blame Obama for, prefer to believe that History began on the day in 2009 that he was inaugurated as President of the United States.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

Hasn't the Federal government been after a number of states and municipalities that immigration is solely a federal matter?

Sharon_Moreanus
Sharon_Moreanus topcommenter

Glad to live in the city where this shit won't happen.

dingo
dingo

'Most neighborhood residents agree that while there are still logistics to consider, housing the kids at Lamar would be a good thing to do.'

Specific wording of the survey question? Door-to-door survey?

Most?  51 percent? 85 percent? Margin for error? Sampling size?


More rigorous evidence is needed to prevent that statement from looking like some pull-out-of-your-ass assertion that one can feel good about because there is no immediate way to debunk that these people are basically in favor of accepting declining wealth accompanied with a physical neighborhood asset being converted into an unfair social burden.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

The neighbors are going to discover that "temporary" might not mean what they think it means, considering this migration wave has no real end in sight.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

I too am wistful since the kids are just entering their formative, and prime,  criminal years. (sniff, sniff).

But wait!  Stop the show.  We're outa kids to ship.  HHS has already shipped them out and released them to traffickers.  

So we got our chunk on order.  Promise!  We're first in line.  Homeland Security says wait one, please.  We expect 4 times the numbers shortly.  The Presidents of Mexico and Guatemala met land week and signed an emergency agreement to issue transit passes and full medical to move Guatemalans rapidly through Mexico for dumping across the border.

But we only want the cute ones, please. The chief of staff of the mayor of Lynn, Mass., said about how many Guatemalan “children” were sent there and placed in public schools: “Some of them have had gray hair and they're telling you that they're 17 years old and they have no documentation,” the official is quoted as saying.

The optics will be all wrong on this.  So we'll need to cherry-pick our little posse.  And that may be a bit more "challenging" if this internal Homeland Security report describing the demographic is close to being true:

—Males between 15-17 years of age comprise 47 percent of all unaccompanied minors who are other than Mexican (OTM). Nearly thirty percent are minors age 10-14.

—53,375 OTM unaccompanied minors are predicted for Fiscal Year 2014, and 95,500 for Fiscal Year 2015.

—There has been an increase in the OTM minors coming into the U.S. who are pregnant, or have physical or mental disabilities.

—Host counties are doing little to prevent their nationals from coming to the U.S. and are likely motivated to allow this due to a desire to have U.S. dollars going back to the host countries.

The report also states:  No single factor causes OTM UC migration to the United States however, potential employment opportunities in the United States, family reunification, and success at not being immediately repatriated drive OTM UC migration to the United States are the major ones.

So just be prepared to pass out shaving gear athe elementery school (ha!).  And like the handlers down at Lackland AFB say, "no recording devices, cameras, questions or interviews will be allowed during the walk-trough of the containment areas.  No interviews or questions are allowed to the security force or the healthcare workers."

To protect the children, of course.

And a few judges and Presidents to boot.

Roadstar
Roadstar

@davej.francis Obama was not born in the US. The worlds Old Guard put him in the white house. They use the news to tell us what is going on you will hear it over and over until everyone thinks its the law. The world leaders are lowering our standards by the spreading the poor around the world Obama says its sharing the wealth when its really sharing the poor. No one in us government gives a shit because elected officials don't get Social Security they have created their own benefits for medical insurance and retirement and they will never share them with anyone. The Tea Party are the same sh*^ same pile. Illegal Aliens don't need to be citizens to take our Social Security or lower our standards, besides if you are not a us citizen the UN-troops can't put you in camps when the US President declares Marshal Law the US Government knows US troops won't point a Gun at US citizens. The reform will come when all the US citizens have no way to defend their home their freedom. One world government will be run by and smell the same as the clowns that run the circus today. Thats what they teach in the best colleges outsource globalization chop it up lower the standard so when everything fails they can blame it on the Citizens after all they voted.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@davej.francis What's going to kill the Left is their rank and file.

They're buckling.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@davej.francis Dude, seriously.  Breathe, focus, illuminate.  Your tirade goes off in so many directions at once, no one could follow it.  I'm sure you had a point in there, but being the switch man on the crazy train ain't helping you make it.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@davej.francis "Social Security is already running into trouble, along with Medicare"


Good thing MILLIONS of undocumented aliens are PAYING INTO this bankrupt system, helping keep it afloat for those U$ citizens who are drawing from it.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@davej.francis "WITHOUT SEALING THE BORDER"


You'd have as much success attempting to seal the ocean from fish.



Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul I don't know.  But OOPS, the secessionist, and states' rights zealot, has had fourteen years to do SOMETHING.  Eight of those years he was underneath the Bush, a fellow Texan that OOPS never seemed to criticize when millions of undocumented immigrants passed into the United States.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@snuffleupagus Now you can name all of the molesters who were born in the United States... just to be fair and balanced, you know.

TheCredibleHulk
TheCredibleHulk topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

That's a pretty good point that gets lost on the side defending this "temporary-housing" - I'm pretty sure the "temporary" modifier in that sentence refers to the amount of time the the immigrants will be living there, not how long the school will be used to house them.

Looked at from a long enough time scale, everything is temporary

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@holmantx

—53,375 OTM unaccompanied minors are predicted for Fiscal Year 2014...

...the government released figures showing that more than 52,000 unaccompanied children had reached the southern border between October 2013 and mid-June...

With about half of the fiscal year left, it's possible that the government's predicted numbers might be off a smidgen, or even a tad, which will result in the word most commonly used in news reports on this administration - unexpectedly

observist
observist topcommenter

@TheRuddSki  You know that tired cliche about the definition of insanity?

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

Social Security is only in trouble when the Republicans try to get rid of it.

wcvemail
wcvemail

@DonkeyHotay @davej.francis

I agree. But one can seal the bait can, and with catch-n-deport, the once-caught fish would have a tale to tell the others that there's no bait any more.

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus

We already have enough home-grown criminals, you idiotic troll. We don't need to import more. If our border had been secure and our laws enforced, this scum would not have been here to attack that child. Choke on cat shit and shut the fuck up. You are the Observer's dumbest troll and you are probably really Jim Schutze.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

Expect the unexpected when it comes to this bunch in charge.

The funny part is that locally, the Democrats are trying to take credit for something they merely thought up.  Despite the fact that there are no kids.  They've been shipped out to dubious recipients - including child traffickers.

So these morons have to get in line.  Put their order in, so to speak for the increasing waves that are sure to come because of their "caring".

And this will be the gift that keeps on giving for the Dems.  The Black Democrats are not happy.  The Hispanics appear to be, shall we say, ungrateful:

A Washington Post new story quotes Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke as favoring “greater emphasis on the interests of these children who are refugees from extreme violence” instead of “an acceleration of the deportation process at the expense of these children.” But the Post reporters note that “O'Rourke added that he has been surprised by the anger he has heard toward the immigrants of many of his El Paso constituents, who ‘feel like we can't take care of everyone, and these children and their families are gaming the system.' ” O'Rourke's district, which includes most of El Paso County, is 79 percent Hispanic.

So what's left is a photo op.

of little children to do the dog and pony.  Only problem is, locally they are having to tap dance.  The Feds can't deliver right now and what they want to ship are the unadoptable ones.  Half are 14 to 17 with attitudes - all male, with the mad dog stare and I don't think they're bullshittin'.  Some of these cholos will kill you.

Looks like Guatemala swept up their punks and made like the Mariel Boatlift.

"Oldtimers may remember that the influx of Mariel refugees from Cuba hurt Jimmy Carter in the 1980 election. Carter failed to carry Florida, where many refugees were housed, and Arkansas, where many were sent to Fort Chaffee. Also defeated that year were some incumbent Democrats who hadn't seemed to be in great trouble: U.S. Sen. Richard Stone of Florida and a young governor of Arkansas named Bill Clinton. Most current voters were not alive in 1980 or have forgotten the political fallouts from the Mariel influx. I'm sure Bill Clinton hasn't. I suspect that, if asked, he might have some advice for Democrats in states to which the underage illegals are being sent."

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@observist

Crazy?

I see the same phenomenon on TV talk shows. Same people, same arguments, until finally, an observant type observes that people make the same argument. And nothing much changes.

Frustrating, isn't it? Especially for Top Commenter types.

dingo
dingo

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz 

I think mathematics and anxious Chinese creditors will get rid of it before the Republicans get rid if it.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@snuffleupagus  "you idiotic troll."  Pot calling kettle, Pot calling kettle, come in kettle.....

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@dingo 

you asked, there's the answer. I didn't "say" anything other than if you want an answer to your question it's pretty easy to find.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@everlastingphelps

The US income tax was "temporary" as well.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@holmantx 

They've been shipped out to dubious recipients - including child traffickers.

source?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@holmantx

And, of course all these toddlers are from non-contiguous states, none from Mexico for obvious reasons.

How do we know none are Mexican? Photo ID!

Anyway, the racism is unleashed...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J9ixOsjut3E

dingo
dingo

@mavdog @dingo 

Pretty easy to find a door-to-door indoctrination campaign from an established Obama lackey that you somehow are trying to pass off as a legitimate reflection of resident sentiments.


Once again you bring Mr. Haney's peddler's truck full of worthless to the discussion.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

Democrats are in big trouble.  

White Liberals have really stepped in it this time.  They'll beat the racism drum since it's the only instrument left to them.  It's just a matter on how long the press hangs with them (ha!).

Some percentage of Blacks and Hispanics - unknown at this juncture but this may be red hot come November - won't vote Republican but they just won't vote. They'll sit it out. Put those God for saken Repubs in.  They'll know what to do and if we don't vote for them, we get to complain.

For the Dem constituencies, it's getting personal.


Of course, into the racism bin they go.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@dingo

name calling without addressing the issue

beeyotch.

pot, meet kettle. you and snuffleupagus have a lot in common.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@dingo 

Pretty easy to find a door-to-door indoctrination campaign from an established Obama lackey that you somehow are trying to pass off as a legitimate reflection of resident sentiments.

Once again you bring Mr. Haney's peddler's truck full of worthless to the discussion.

"door-to-door indoctrination campaign". uh, OK....

good lord, there is absolutely NO WAY that I can reach the high mark of "worthless" that YOU put forth with the over the top ridiculous blather in your posts!

you sir are the King of Worthless! wear your crown with your head held high! you have done it the old fashioned way, you have earned it...

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@holmantx 

oh, so what you wrote They've been shipped out to dubious recipients - including child traffickers is NOT an accurate statement.

to wit from your linked article (that I guess you thought supported, rather than debunked, what you said): Individuals associated with human trafficking organizations are asking Health and Human Services officials to hand over the children who have immigrated to the United States during the recent border surge...Again, I’m talking to a lower-level individual at one facility in Oklahoma, so it’s hard for me to say definitively that this is a large-scale problem, but it was very clear that it has happened

"are asking". thanks for clearing up your mistake.

dingo
dingo

@holmantx 

The kid demogaphic that was 6 years ago bitching about Cheney and Halliburton are now bitching about the economy and illegals.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

Henny Penny and Turkey Lurkey are still banging out that tedious harangue...

observist
observist topcommenter

@dingo @mavdog @Myrna.Minkoff-Katz  Social Security is easy.  There are 3 levers: premiums paid in, eligibility (retirement age in particular), and benefits paid out.  Small adjustments to these levers can immediately change the "projected insolvency" from tomorrow to 2017 to 2071.

dingo
dingo

@mavdog @dingo 

Mavdog yammering out a heap of prattle because he ran bone dry on facts to throw at the issue.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz

Ms Money Penny, best put a little salt and pepper on that Turkey Lurkey shit sandwich yer makin' because you are going to have to take big bite.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@dingo 

it's interesting (and very revealing) that when you postulate about a subject with little if any knowledge about it, when someone contributes a FACT you show a complete failure of thought.

hey, don't blame others for your own insecurity and ineptness. embrace them! 

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