Residents Seek Temporary Restraining Order Against CityPlace Sam's Club

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East Village Association, a group representing residents who live near the proposed East Village development, has filed a request for a temporary restraining order and a permanent injunction against the city of Dallas and the Plan Commission to block a zoning change that would allow construction of a 130,000-square-foot Sam's Club.

Residents say they were misled throughout the process that led to the potential approval of the plan backed by developer Trammell Crow. The zoning changes, they say, "[are] the product of a fraud upon the people and the city of Dallas."

Plans for the discount mega-retailer were never discussed at community meetings hosted by Crow to talk about the development; zoning change notices provided by the city failed to note the full extent of the potential development, according to the residents.

Bobby Abtahi, the vice chair of the Plan Commission, said that while he did find out about the court action today, he's still awaiting the city attorney's briefing to the commission tomorrow before commenting.

A clerk at the 162nd District Court, where the request for injunction was filed, told Unfair Park that a hearing on the matter had been scheduled for 10:30 a.m. Friday. The Plan Commission is scheduled to vote on Crow's development plan Thursday.

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casiepierce
casiepierce

More likely, the self-absorbed narcissists never bothered to read the little postcards when they came in the mail. 

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

I THINK THESE PEOPLE ARE SIMPLY BEING PETULANT RATHER THAN BEING CONCERNED ABOUT JUST ONE MORE SPRAWLING BUILDING NEAR 75 AND SKILLMAN.  BITCH, BITCH, BITCH.  GET A LIFE. 

michaelghoward78
michaelghoward78

WylieH:YOU ARE SUCH A HYPOCRITE!!!!

AGAINST SAM'S MEGASTORE IN UPTOWN/CITYPLACE- BUT THEN ARE IN FAVOR OF OTHER ZONING DEVELOPMENT AT 4719 COLE AVE. 75205 (UPTOWN) THAT WILL DISPLACE FAMILIES FOR EYESORE MONSTROSITY 8 STORY HIGH-RISE THAT WILL DISTROY THE KATY TRAIL!!!

HAVE SOME CONSISTENT SCRUPLES AND MORALS TO GET YOUR PRIORITIES IN ORDER!!

becoolerifyoudid
becoolerifyoudid

1) Is the guy at the corner of Carroll and Capital still going to be able to keep his pink flamingos?

2) If the neighborhood can get rid of the Sam's will they be able to purge the DHA housing next?

3) Are we still staying steadfast in our resolve to do nothing about the open air drug market at Bryan and Carroll?  Don't get me wrong, I am pretty libertarian on that issue, but if we are going to complete the gentrification/purification of the area this needs to be addressed along with the loiters and homeless.

4) Is that Peaceful Mind place on Henderson a whore house?  If so, what does it say when there is more outrage over a Sam's than having a brothel a few doors down from an elementary school. 


As for the case itself, my opinions are meaningless, but I am interested in seeing how the Court rules on the plea to jurisdiction before looking into it further.

mrbusyb
mrbusyb

I think the Sams is the perfect development for this area.  Stop thinking New York City and start asking yourself the question, "What is a southern urban area?"  Along with the Target and Sams big boxes, the next ideal step would be to build a luxury multiplex drive-in movie theatre atop a low rise apartment community.  At its center, It would be anchored by gourmet snack bars and a starbucks, .  Isn't it about time that the romantic matinee drive-in concept and its offering of two movies was reintroduced back into the central Dallas area?  When was the last time you bought yourself refreshments during an intermission!  And a drive thru could be included for those who don't want to walk the few hundred feet to buy your popcorn and a coke.          

WylieH
WylieH

Another fun fact in this case is that city staff, working with the developer, misrepresented the distance from Sam's Club to the DART station, allowing Trammell Crow to effectively get a density bonus worth several million dollars via a 20% waiver of parking requirements.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

The residents who are complaining want to live in the inner city, but they don't want it to look like the inner city. 

WylieH
WylieH

@casiepierce No, they read them.  And a couple of them showed them to me.  I told them everything was fine... because I relied on the false information contained in those notices (they actually came in envelopes).

WylieH
WylieH

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz 75 & Skillman actually don't intersect... and Skillman is quite a distance away from the area in question.

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

@michaelghoward78 How is scraping the Saltillo and replacing it going to destroy Katy Trail? There's a high rise on the Katy now, and another under construction across Knox, and a couple more down at Cedar Springs.

Sharon_Moreanus
Sharon_Moreanus topcommenter

1. It's a midrise not a highrise.

2. Ice House, strollers, and dogs on zip lines ruined Katy Trail.

3. 200+ luxury units are better than the 78 unit shithole currently there.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@michaelghoward78 Check me if I'm wrong, but I don't see Wylie coming off as 'against' sam's club.  Wylie seems to be more concerned with how this all got approved and by whom, not so much with 'what' got approved.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@michaelghoward78 are you angry?  Why are you yelling, do you feel you are not being heard?  And why post it 5 times?  I think we got the idea the first time.  

becoolerifyoudid
becoolerifyoudid

Looks like the City's plea to the jurisdiction was granted as to the TRO.  Looks like the TRO hearing for Friday has been cancelled and replaced with a hearing for a temporary injunction to be heard by Judge Tobolowsky.  I always liked her, she's very knowledgeable with real estate issues. 

michaelghoward78
michaelghoward78

WylieH: YOU ARE SUCH A HYPOCRITE!!!!

AGAINST SAM'S MEGASTORE IN UPTOWN/CITYPLACE- BUT THEN ARE IN FAVOR OF OTHER ZONING DEVELOPMENT AT 4719 COLE AVE. 75205 (UPTOWN) THAT WILL DISPLACE FAMILIES FOR EYESORE MONSTROSITY 8 STORY HIGH-RISE THAT WILL DISTROY THE KATY TRAIL!!!

HAVE SOME CONSISTENT SCRUPLES AND MORALS TO GET YOUR PRIORITIES IN ORDER!!

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@WylieH

We got the Bum's Rush, man.

Bum's Rush - The act of a bar bouncer, security guard, or some authority figure forcibly removing a person (the "bum") from a location by twisting said person's arm behind his back and pushing the forearm skyward while rapidly pushing (rushing) the body toward an exit.

"We" = the citizen, the process and the elected officials they rode in on.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@WylieH @casiepierce

they're green; and you do have to rely upon what the notice says they are asking for.

those things are now meaningless.

the public meetings are meaningless

the application is meaningless

the process has no integrity 

michaelghoward78
michaelghoward78

.noʎ ʞɔnɟ

THERE - I just "expressed" my freedom of speech. YOU made and ALLOWED me to do that!!!! #IDIOT

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@Sharon_Moreanus I have this image of a woman jogging a stroller down the trail when, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzip....WHAM! out of the treetops, a New Foundland Hound zip lining takes them both out.


sweet justice.

WylieH
WylieH

@RTGolden1 @michaelghoward78 Correct.  I'd actually be fine with a Sam's Club that fit within the MU-3 zoning (100,000 sf or under) with the site developed in a mixed use manner, consistent with the City's land use plan.  It is important to have retail at a variety of price points within the urban core.

everymanaking
everymanaking

@michaelghoward78 I think you're trying to make a point these two very different projects are somehow similar.  They're not you TROLL.

everymanaking
everymanaking

@holmantx @WylieH After pouring through Plan Commission minutes, I've come to the conclusion that Masterplan Consultants are more or less acting for the city. 

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@stevenray @Myrna.Minkoff-Katz Sure.  An inner city needs an anchor, some reason for it to be there, and to be important enough to need a label.  Dallas doesn't have a water front or anything else to develop an inner city around.  A conglomeration of of big box retailers crowned by Sam's is as likely a candidate as anything else.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@stevenray  The area around City Place Tower is part of the inner city, and Target, Kroger, and a strip mall already exist.  So, what's the beef with these people?

primi_timpano
primi_timpano topcommenter

@WylieH: Any thoughts as to why the petition for the TRO did not include Crow's false claim of the project's distance to the DART station? Off point, but shows unclean hands and a history of obfuscation?

WylieH
WylieH

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz @WylieH Well... I'll grant you that this proposed project sits on the US 75 service road... and you bring up Skillman why, exactly?  As casiepierce points out... that road is quite some distance away.

Sharon_Moreanus
Sharon_Moreanus topcommenter

My kids are familiar with corpal punishment.

They WILL ride the "Dallas Wave" when they get out of summer school from DISD. I want to show them what $5mil looks like.

michaelghoward78
michaelghoward78

.noʎ ʞɔnɟ

THERE - I just "expressed" my freedom of speech. YOU made and ALLOWED me to do that!!!! #IDIOT #MORON

WylieH
WylieH

@everymanaking @holmantx @WylieH Well, they are former city staffers, rumored to be working in office space at City Hall inside the building department, City staff have a tendency to defer to them when they are unsure as to what to do, and many of them aspire to work there after City Hall.

Would could possibly be wrong with that dynamic?

stevenray
stevenray

@RTGolden1 @stevenray @Myrna.Minkoff-Katz The real issue isn't that it's a Sam's or even a big box. It's that what was shown to the people living in the neighborhood was not a big box, drive thru, or a gas station. It was basically the complete opposite with 3 separate stores where the Sam's is. An outdoor patio where the drive thru is. And no gas station was ever mentioned. The people of this area are the victims of a definitive bait and switch by Trammell Crow. 


That's the real issue here.


However regarding the big-box; just because there's already other stores nearby like Target, etc.. Doesn't mean that this area should by default get all the crap so to speak. It doesn't make sense at all especially with the Dart station right there. This is the perfect spot to connect the neighborhood. West village to Fitzhugh and Henderson to Lower Greenville.


But, as I mentioned first. Sam's isn't the real issue. It's the way that Trammell Crow went about making this happen. By only having zoning for MU-3 which does not allow for more than a 100k sqft build. And using different "pretty" store images to get it by the people.


Dallas city officials shouldn't let the citizens get screwed over by Trammell Crow just because they have money.

primi_timpano
primi_timpano topcommenter

@Myrna: Because enough is enough. They were sold Uptown East but being delivered Loop 12 and Skillman.

CarlSmith
CarlSmith

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz @stevenray I've lived there for 26 years so I can tell you the history there on that. None of those were built across the street from residential homes or apartments. They were built across from commercial properties.The apartments around there built up around them. Kroger came later and it's footprint is minimal. There is no argument with Sam's. Nothing against Sam's. For me personally Sam's is welcome to the neighborhood also, if it can do it without being a megastore, without the parking lot necessary to support it, if they could figure out how to reduce the traffic on the already overloaded streets in the neighborhood and freeway, if they could figure out how to keep that traffic from putting the children at the nearby school at risk, do the same for the blind people that use that street as a training course. I could go on, but you get the point.

WylieH
WylieH

@primi_timpano The optimal length for a pleading is roughly 20 pages, including everything.  The judge is a human being, so you don't want to overwhelm the person with too many different things... it becomes overwhelming.  I get the sense that you've figured that out by your statement that it is "off point."  You only have so many pages to page your case, so you don't want to waste space dealing with secondary issues.

WylieH
WylieH

@stevenray Until the last few weeks, the Trammell Crow folks have been shockingly open about the low regard they hold for the neighborhood surrounding their site--- describing it in all sorts of pejorative terms.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@stevenray Ok, I agree that the manner in which this all came about is shifty.  I'm sure the residents of that area (I'm not one, so this is all conjecture and 'other people's problems' for me) have legitimate reason to be angry.

Only point I was making is that there's no reason why Sam's Club couldn't be considered 'Inner City'.  Certainly not a planning and zoning reason.  Maybe, as Myrna was hinting at, only an attitudinal reason why it couldn't.

WylieH
WylieH

@RTGolden1 @stevenray I actually had one of my guys run a search for other inner-city Sam's Clubs--- there don't appear to be any... anywhere else in the U.S.

WylieH
WylieH

@doublecheese @WylieH @stevenray Of course I do... actually a few.  But... just ask around... you will likely be able to find a real person to go on the record about it.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@doublecheese That's a terrific area to live in.  Who cares if Sam's Club is built there.  It won't change a thing.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@WylieH @RTGolden1 @stevenray Flouride in the water, Starbuck's, Parks over freeways and internet searches.  None of these were common, or even existed.  Until they did.

WylieH
WylieH

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz @doublecheese Yes... just throw a few thousand cars and several 18-wheelers a day into a residential neighborhood in violation of the City's own planning guidelines and in conflict with the traffic study they submitted to the building department--- what could go wrong?  Just a bunch of no-rate lower middle-class folk anyway.

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