Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert Calls the "Invasion" of Migrant Rapists an "Existential Threat"

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Texas congressman Louie Gohmert is usually good for a sound byte or two (or three, or four ...), and he gave us another one Tuesday when, with C-SPAN cameras rolling, he said the influx of immigrants at the border amounted to a war on women.

Gohmert said the "criminal aliens" had "committed at least 7,695 sexual assaults" in the past six years. "You want to talk about a war on women? This administrationwill not defend the women of America from criminal aliens! By the thousands, and hundreds of thousands!"

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He continued: "Well, we know thousands. And we know people are coming in by the hundreds of thousands illegally. And this administration wants to talk about other people having a war on women when they will not defend the women that are being sexually assaulted by illegal aliens in this country! In Texas alone, we know of 7,695 such assaults."

Gohmert said that in the past six years the state of Texas had identified 177,588 "unique, alien, criminal defendants" that had been booked into Texas county jails and that they were responsible for 611,234 crimes "over their criminal careers." He added that number included 2,993 murders and the number of assaults.

He called the influx an "existential threat."

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Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
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Gohmert.  The kook's kook.  How can you take anyone seriously who says things like this:


Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX), gripes about how federal funds going to China for the protection of rare cats and dogs may actually result in "moo goo dog pan or moo goo cat pan".

lecterman
lecterman

Pleasantly surprised to see him blaming the rapists for rape instead of the victims....

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

So now all of a sudden Republicans are upset about rapes?

stancorbett86
stancorbett86

It's funny because the Facebook post title for this article makes it sound like Gohmert committed some kind of egregious logical error, told a bald-faced lie, joined the KKK, threatened to murder somebody, etc.

Then you read the article, and it's like, wait.....his demeanor seems very reasonable, his concerns perfectly valid, his numbers seem plausible and quite alarming (& are confirmed upon further research), and his conclusions logically appropriate.

Talk about making mountains out of molehills.

And it's almost like the Observer KNOWS he makes good sense, because they don't even try to disagree with or attack his points. They seem to simply expect all their readers to be as die-hard liberal as they are, to the point where they can effectively suspend all attempts at even basic journalistic inquiry, and let their readers infer the bias. The tone is: "He's a Republican, so we don't even need to investigate the numbers to know that he's obviously making them all up on the spot and would secretly prefer to line all these illegals up and gun them down Nazi-style."

Seriously, do you even try anymore Observer? Are you really ok with being the rag that only the most narrow-minded of liberal stuff shirts can take seriously, while everyone else with even half of an inquisitive brain just laughs and shakes their heads?

marlowefox
marlowefox

Jon Stewart’s political quips though humorous are taken as gospel by college-aged and young professional voters. “News” served with a punch line is not a good recipe for an informed electorate. Far too often a political situation cannot be boiled down into a one-liners –but, perhaps, in this case it can.  “What the F$&* is wrong with you?,” Stewart rhetorically asked those in favor of deporting minors currently in custody at the border. And maybe the issue is that simple, besides, isn’t that what makes our country great? America is a nation willing to take on every cause, fight every injustice –a bastion of humanitarianism. Imagine having so little hope in a future that you are willing to travel across difficult terrain and through crime-ridden cities with only the clothes on your back. Upon arriving to America, these migrants are placed in detention centers where there appears to be limited legal assistance, media coverage, or otherwise contact with the outside world.


The right has made itself far too easy a target by catering to their base with outrageous scare tactics leaving themselves wide open. For example. Representative Louie Gohmert (R-Tex) has likened the increase in immigration to an invasion. In response, Stewart commented “I'm not a military expert but generally an enemy invasion force is not particularly dangerous until it can reach and open its own cereal.”

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

Luckily for them, the Republicans don't have the political will to either fund the system or reform it.  They're too busy protecting us from the "threat" of gay marriage and women's reproductive rights.

JFPO
JFPO

What happened to women shutting this whole thing down? So these rapes aren't legitimate? Are the babies produced by these rapes not gifts from God because the rapists are Latino? Republicans need some consistency in their rape stories if they expect me to be outraged enough to properly blame Obama for all this. #poutrage

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

“In comparison to other global threats, the near collapse of societies in the hemisphere with the associated drug and [undocumented immigrant] flow are frequently viewed to be of low importance,” [Marine Corps Gen. John] Kelly, commander of U.S. Southern Command, Kelly told Defense One. “Many argue these threats are not existential and do not challenge our national security. I disagree.”

Anon.
Anon.

I do not think that word means what he thinks it means.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

2993 murders over a six year time span.  annually, around 500, in the same neighborhood as Chicago's numbers.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

Does this include the illegal alien who had been deported four times that had raped the little girl in Springtown (IIRC)?

dsjohnson64
dsjohnson64

@stancorbett86  Laughing--saying WHAT--and shaking your head does seem appropriate.  After all I also kept waiting for the OBSERVER to refute the numbers provided by Congressman Gohmert on violent crime by illegal aliens in Texas over the last six years.  That might have given some meaning--or explanation--to the "We Apologize in Advance for This Particular Item."  But there was no refutation--not even a general claim the numbers are wrong.  So now I wonder if the OBSERVER thinks 7,695 sexual assaults and 2,993 murders are of little or no consequence.  How ridiculous to even mention them.


Of course in a way we probably should thank the OBSERVER for the lurid come on "We Apologize in Advance for This Particular Item."  As a result  more people are aware that crime by illegal aliens is far more serious than most of the media--certainly the DALLAS MORNING NEWS--would have us believe.

dingo
dingo

@marlowefox 

“I'm not a military expert but generally an enemy invasion force is not particularly dangerous until it can reach and open its own cereal.

That would be even funnier if it were relevant.

"Then we found out that more than 80 percent of the "children" were teenage males, some being recruited for the homicidal Central American gang MS-13, right there in the detention facilities. "

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-07-16.html

There's that bitch picking shit again.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

I would hope that we can all agree the "collapse of societies in the hemisphere", and the emergence of the parallel criminal state in many of these countries, is a threat to the security of our country. Kelley is worth listening to.

That however is not what Gohmert referenced.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@TheRuddSki ... oh, a "military" source ... so it must be valid and accurate ... LOL!


Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, the Army officer who has refused to deploy to Afghanistan because, in his view, President Obama has not proved that he was born in the United States and is therefore ineligible to be president, entered a deferred plea at his arraignment hearing 

wcvemail
wcvemail

The gyrenes got themselves a thinker and a wordsmith. If he makes it to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs (he's presently being considered for Deputy Chair), he'll be a better one than the ones we've suffered for the last 20 years.

unan
unan

@Anon. or you don't - existential threat is a literal term meaning a threat that exists.  Like the Lake Highlands rapist, for example.

JFPO
JFPO

Thanks Obama??

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@dsjohnson64 @stancorbett86 

I think it's hilarious to see anti-immigrant psychos, all up in arms and ready to bitch up a storm about bad reporting, only to be disappointed to find that the report was perfectly reasonable.

btw - to answer your wonderment, the OBSERVER doesn't "think" anything.  It' a corporation - not a person.


Momto3inDISD
Momto3inDISD

@dingo @marlowefox 

quoting "facts" from Ann Coulter?  she lost all credibility with her attacks on soccer (ok - she didn't really have much left to lose)

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

Got it.

General's rhetoric was good, Louie's rhetoric was bad.

Noted.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay

So you're saying the USMC General's opinion of his command purview is faulty because some Army guy doesn't like Obama.

Gotta say, that's a unique POV, and valuable to the conversation for that reason alone.

wcvemail
wcvemail

@DonkeyHotay @TheRuddSki

The Marine expressed his opinion, and did so well, not claiming that his was truth. Lakin is an ordinary loon who happened to be an officer, and claimed his words were true. Big difference.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@unan @Anon. " existential threat is a literal term meaning a threat that exists"


Grammar FAIL!


That would be an EXTANT Threat, not an existential threat, you brain-dead drooling doofus.



RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@JFPO Not sure where you're going with that.  The Pres doesn't really affect the murder rate in either location.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay

-- a female soldier in combat zones is more likely to be raped by a fellow soldier than killed by enemy fire

I looked into that, but the articles I found from the Times and WaPo cited a military rape crisis, but no comparison to the civilian world.

But, I managed to find statistics, finally. Unfortunately, they are cited by World Net Daily, Inadmissible.

Surely, you have such a link of comparative numbers handy? John Kerry's website maybe?

Anyway, here's the link. Pick it apart, but it looks pretty reasonable.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/harassing-military_738058.html?page=1

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul 

You are slipping Donk.  It took you a title (extra points for the bold face), two bullet points and two hyperlinks just to state a non sequitur.


You could have gone a little further and attempt to confuse a correlation with causality and asked if this had anything to do with Med Fly infestations in SoCal in the 90's.


And I was so proud of you when you managed a non sequitur and a reductio ad absurdum in a single sentence.

brewer_anthony
brewer_anthony

@Momto3inDISD @dingo @marlowefox When a lefty like Stewart-Leibowitz says that these "immigrants" are just little imps too short to reach a box of Trix he's an authority. Ann Coulter uses a little comedic license talking about a game...she loses all credibility.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki 

General's rhetoric was good, Louie's rhetoric was bad.

you characterize Kelly's words as merely "rhetoric"?

so we should just brush them off as "rhetoric", not worth anything?

myself, I see him worth listening to. you, OTOH, apparently don't give him that credibility

odd you would say that after posting them.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@TheRuddSki


Q. In short, what are the 10 mistakes that you address in your book?


A. I break the mistakes up chapter-by-chapter.

  1. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld’s deployment plans. They didn’t include an adequate number of military police to control the routes during the ground war, and then we didn’t have sufficient military police to control the streets after the ground war.
  2. Law and order was not given sufficient attention in the pre-war planning. This failed to provide a police system to provide security to the Iraqi citizenry and to instill a sense of trust in our Army.
  3. The issue of detainees. There was really was no clear guidance on the categorization of them. It was really important to me to adhere to the Geneva Conventions, but I really had to make it all up as I went.
  4. The flaws in collecting intelligence.
  5. Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, an Army Reserve officer who commanded the military police unit at the Abu Ghraib prison. I actually opened Abu Ghraib prison and handed it over to her in 2003. And I explain that she was the wrong leader at the wrong place at the wrong time.
  6. Lt. Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez, who was the top commander in Iraq from June 2003 to July 2004 and replaced Lt. Gen. William S. Wallace. General Sanchez was in over his head, and he continued fighting the ground war long after it was over.
  7. The Coalition Provisional Authority, under the leadership of L. Paul Bremer III, dismantled the Iraqi Army, and the highest level of the Baath Party. Under Saddam Hussein, the highest ranks could only belong to Baath Party members, so we lost some of the most experienced personnel that were so vital in putting Iraq back together again.
  8. The mistakes of the former New York City Police Commissioner Bernie Kerik. He was focused on padding his résumé and getting as much camera time as he could.
  9. The Iraqi police and the fact that I was pressured to focus more on quantity as opposed to quality.
  10. President George W. Bush’s coalition of the willing. The fact is, those countries had less than 50 people in there. There really was not a coalition other than the United Kingdom.

               10 Mistakes of the Iraq War 


Col. Ted Spain was deployed to Iraq as the commander of the 18th Military Police Brigade

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@wcvemail

Used several ways, including, but not limited to, your neighbor.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@TheRuddSki ... so besides being a lowlife bigot and scumsucking racist, you're now a rapemongering apologist for sexual assault in the military.


Fascinating.


Do you strive to be evil, or is that a skill that comes naturally to you?



dingo
dingo

@DonkeyHotay @TheRuddSki 

Donkers gone bonkers using a military source to demonstrate that military sources are not valid and accurate.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@DonketHotay

So the whole thing about a rape crisis in the military is manufactured by the liberal press, fed to Donkeys nationwide, who then infest lib rag comment sections with the manufactured crisis, knowing that military-loathing lefties will buy the lies.

And then anyone who debunks the bullshit is a scumbag, racist, blahblahblah.

Donk, if you didn't exist, a right-winger would invent you.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul He has a point, Noble Don.  It is no longer even Giants you are tilting at, but mere shadows on a wall.  Keep up this disjointed tirade and to the likes of Buckus your good name shall fall.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul 

Donk, I have always expected more from you even though your rebuttals often make no sense.  But to go down to the level of an ad hominen attack is truly pitiful.

I fail to see how my original statement is either bigotted or racist.  The fact is, it did occur, and additionally, the illegal immigrant did misrepresent himself at the border by claiming that 2 children were his.

Please, what happened to the Donk that we know and love so well?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@TheRuddSki ... only a lowlife misogynist rethuglykkkan shitsucker like you would make the absurd assertion that the press -- liberal or otherwise --- forced U$Soldiers to RAPE their fellow female troops.


Is the Pentagon "liberal" you repugnant puke?


 A 2012 Pentagon survey found that approximately 26,000 women and men were sexually assaulted. Of those, only 3,374 cases were reported. In 2013, a new pentagon study found that 5,061 troops reported cases of assault. Many people are optimistic that this 50% increase in reports is indicative of victims "growing more comfortable in the system." Of these reported, however, only 484 cases went to trial, and only 376 resulted in convictions.


In 2004, the Department of Defense created the Care for Victims of Sexual Assault Task Force, whose findings indicated the need for a more powerful and centralized organization to address the issue. This led to the formation of the Joint Task Force for Sexual Assault Prevention and Response, which eventually transitioned into the Sexual Assault Prevention and Response Office (SAPRO)

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul ... just because you and Ruddski take your pointy white hoods off after the klan meetings doesn't make you two any less the repugnant bigoted racists you know -- but are too cowardly to admit in public -- you are.

dingo
dingo

@DonkeyHotay @dingo @TheRuddSki 

Keying in on pedantics and avoiding context to win an argument.

Your particular words were 'valid and accurate' .

I was obviously using those same words in that same context.

Are you Mavdogs cousin? I see where he is arguing a point right now based upon the particular definition of rhetoric that suits his needs. 

Twisting words is an especially tender way to say 'I'm clueless and I don't deal with it well' to loved ones.

 


TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay

Is the Pentagon "liberal" you repugnant puke?

Yes and no.

Your cite still fails to address the rate for civilians in this age demographic, which is a key point.

I'm going to take a wild guess that one big reason for military assaults approaching civilian levels is that many more women have and are joining the military than ever before.

What's your intelligent wild guess, the basic scumbaggery of the military gone wild? Global Climate Shiftocuast driving baby-killers to unbridled, uncontainable lust? Brown acid?

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @TheRuddSki 

I am not sure that I follow your logic Donk.

Are you saying that because rapes are occurring amongst our armed forces, it is okay that illegal immigrants can break into houses and rape little girls?

It is good to see that the Armed Forces is taking steps to solve this problem, but honestly, I do not see the connection to my original post.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@dingo ... you mean semantics, not "pedantics" [sic], you daft illiterate dipshit.


Learn some rudimentary English if you want to argue with the adults, moron.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@TheRuddSki  "Your cite still fails to address the rate for civilians in this age demographic"


The civilian rate offers NO COMFORT or mitigation to the Female U$ Soldiers who are RAPED by their fellow troops.


Not one fucking iota.


Makes about as much sense as a Civilian Rapist pointing to the Military Rape rate as an excuse ... you repugnant piece of crap.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul @DonkeyHotay @TheRuddSki



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Historians have estimated that, after their return to Europe, approximately a quarter of the ship's passengers died in concentration camps.


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