Glenn Beck Flashes Humanity, Right-Wing Twitter Gets Very Upset

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The vast majority of the time, Glenn Beck should not be taken seriously. You shouldn't put all of your savings in gold no matter what the North Texas radio and TV host tells you, and you probably shouldn't take any of what he says as anything but performance art.

In the last couple of weeks though, it seems that Beck has come down with a case of sincerity. First, Beck admitted that liberals were right about the second Iraq War. This week, on Tuesday, he announced plans to provide tractor-trailers full of humanitarian aid to help the undocumented kids housed near the border.

Beck noted that it wasn't the kids fault that they were caught in a political crossfire. Political action is necessary, he said, but it shouldn't come at the children's expense.

Predictably, this riled up many conservative Twitter users. Chief among them was Ohio state Representative Andrew Brenner who went on a multi-tweet rant, first discovered by Gawker, attacking Beck:

There was more vitriol from some less public figures -- which you can check out in the Gawker post -- and backlash from commenters on Beck's own website The Blaze (be warned if you venture into that comments section, some of the cognitive dissonance is almost overpowering).

This morning Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins defended Beck on MSNBC, which can only make things worse, Unfair Park imagines.

Check out Beck's full statement below:


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noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

I don't doubt Beck's sincerity.  But, I DO doubt his wisdom and understanding. 


Here are the murder rates for:


Honduras: 90.4 (per 100,000)

Venezuela: 53.7

El Salvador: 41.2

Guatemala: 39.9

Colombia: 30.8

So, the claim is these children are fleeing crime wars.  But, that's not true.  

But, one other fact is interesting: 

Why important children away from their homes and families - who are illegal, and then send many of them to Chicago where they have over 500 murders every year, and recently experienced 80 murders in ONE NIGHT?

Importing diseases like Scabies, TB, plague, bacterial pneumonia, and others -- all communicable diseases, represents a threat to the healthiest population on the Earth outside of Switzerland. 

What Obama is doing is treasonous, and all done for political reasons. 

As they say, "Charity begins AT HOME!". 

diimaa_galaanaa
diimaa_galaanaa

He has always been sincere. He might have been wrong but sincere. Sincerity and being right have nothing to do with each other. He sincerely believed the Iraq war was the right thing to do. Was he right? that's another question.


TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

Speaking of civility, I think Facebook might have taken down the "Kill Kendall Jones" page.

CFS1969
CFS1969

Shame on you people!!!! How dare you! "Glen Beck flashes humanity"?!? GB has more humanity and love for ALL people in his little toe than you people will ever have in your lifetime!

dentonjim
dentonjim

Look. How long can a person go along touting God and Christian ideals before the massive hypocrisy of the right wing god and country ideals eats away at you till the cracks start to show? Apparently this is how long.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

Earlier this week, Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and Guatemalan president Otto Perez Molina held a joint press conference to formally announce a new program that will allow Guatemalan citizens to legally travel through Mexico in their effort to enter the United States illegally. Guatemala is one of three sending countries accounting for most of the illegal aliens coming across the U.S.-Mexico border during the ongoing surge. The agreement grants Guatemalans 72 hours of legal status while they make their journey to the U.S. The "Southern Border Program to Improve Passage" will increase the number of border checkpoints along the Mexico-Guatemala border, provide medical care, and offer Guatemalans a Regional Visitor's Card. The card grants Guatemalans enough time to make the trek to Mexico's northern border.  The program will also offer protection and financial assistance for unaccompanied minors who attempt to make the journey.

JFPO
JFPO

So Glenn Beck is less crazy than "mainstream" Repuublicans (for now anyways). Be proud, white conservative voters.

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

This is just Ohio gloating about hosting the gopers for their big party. Somebody has to out-Cruz Cruz if they're gonna have any fun.

oakclifftownie
oakclifftownie

When  you have created a world where everything is some kind of unseen dark order conspiracy In is only a matter of time before those who follow you will think one has swallowed you up for telling the truth . Poor old Glenn might be in more danger of his followers kidnapping him to save him from the clutches of doom than to terminate him because he has Gone off message.

Dub919
Dub919

I may never have the opportunity to say this again: kudos to Glenn Beck for doing the right thing.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

Beck and I have found common ground.  This is a good thing.  Then why do I feel like I'm walking on quicksand?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

Beck's always been charitable.

As for Iraq, he's right in that certain people, for whatever reason, don't value democracy, self-determination, human rights, gay rights, women's rights, freedom, dogs and all that bullshit. He, like the majority of the country, was convinced that Muslins could overcome the oppression of their religion.

We were wrong, liberals were right. Islam is incapable of all those things, and the sooner they eliminate their "moderates", the sooner they can close the schools, hang the queers, and get back to peaceful tribal slaughters.

TheCredibleHulk
TheCredibleHulk topcommenter

@CFS1969

Howard Garrett says that a good dunk in a little corn-gluten meal mixed with water will clear up whatever it is that Glenn has in his little toe.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@holmantx 

The agreement grants Guatemalans 72 hours of legal status while they make their journey to the U.S. The "Southern Border Program to Improve Passage" will increase the number of border checkpoints along the Mexico-Guatemala border, provide medical care, and offer Guatemalans a Regional Visitor's Card. The card grants Guatemalans enough time to make the trek to Mexico's northern border

the card allows for the visitor to remain for 72 hours in the Mexican states of Campeche, Ciapas, Quintana Roo and Tobasco. Guess where these states are located? not along the US border but in the south of Mexico along the Guatamalan border. the card does not allow travel outside of those states.

go figure.

dingo
dingo

@JFPO 

Go back to you hobby lobby hysteria concerning what is in reality 0.005 percent of the women are losing out on 35 dollars a month because of the ruling while all middle class women are paying  hundreds more each month as a direct result of the ACA.

OxbowIncident
OxbowIncident

@Montemalone Union states are more threatened by cheap labor now than border states who have been dealing with it forever.

leftocenter
leftocenter

It's not you, but you kinda walked into that one...

andypandy
andypandy

@TheRuddSki  The problems in the middle east, Levant, and Maghreb are not problems with Islam they are problems resulting from the legacy of colonialism enshrined in religion to gain support and legitimacy where otherwise there would be none.  This is not dissimilar from what has happened and continues to occur in parts of Africa and south east asia/former French indo-china however in the case of south east asia and Africa you never hear the terms Buddhist extremists or Animist extremists.  These Muslims who you say are in capable of tolerance are the very same groups that protected Jews and preserved Greek and roman thought while Europe was busy with pogroms, "converting" Jews, burning witches, and exterminating heretics all in the name of Christian values.  In both cases the problem has not been with the religion but with the underlying political instability and those who use religion as a means of gaining power and legitimacy.  We in the US do the same thing--why do you think so many politicians take up the herald of god and country to seek support for laws and actions that are deeply unchristian and hurt much of the nation in their effects.?

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

@TheRuddSki Just imagine what it'd be like here if the crusaders, er christians, had their way.

The wackjob islamists aren't that different from the wackjob xtians.

Religion is, after all, a brain defect.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki 

oh such bullshit, it isn't that "Islam is incapable of those things", for it is not solely Islamic societies that have shown themselves incapable of incorporating into their fabric individual rights/respect and the rule of law.

Hatred and tribalism knows no particular religion or region. it exists in most of the world. Muslims that have lived and are citizens of other countries have shown themselves to be "capable" of "those things" while they remain practicing Muslims.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@mavdog @holmantx

Thanks for the research.  This is breaking.  I've traveled those states.  I know where they are.  Keep researching, will you?

And good thing they're all getting off those trains at the state borders.

otherwise we might have a humanitarian crisis.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@holmantx

This is not Mexico's problem. We can expect them to expedite the passage of people fleeing a "situation", because, once they've been robbed and such, they are just liability to El Estado.

Now that two heads of state have (according to your sources) reached an agreement, it's time for someone to step in and lead from behind, but we haven't heard from the Honduran government yet, we've been golfing.

As they they like to say in Mexico, "we're all Honduran now".

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

These two countries would not enter an agreement to transit thousands (370,000 since April) if they did not have some kind of agreement with the United States to take them.

Think about it.

The President has cut some kind of deal with these countries.

JFPO
JFPO

@dingo @JFPO What does this have to do with Glenn Beck or immigration? Doesn't matter....CONSERVATIVE POUTRAGE!!!

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Oxbowincident

Labor unions now see illegals as potential union members.

In some states where government has stopped as acting as a collection agent for union taxes, payment of dues has dropped considerably.

New labor of a more socialist bent is just about the only thing labor unions can hope for these days. They bought a pres, that helped a bit, but the writing is on the wall.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@andypandy

Yeah, Muslims have always been the Jews' BFF.

dingo
dingo

@Montemalone @TheRuddSki 

We can go back in time 500 -1000 years to the crusades to find a comparable analogy for modern day ISIS.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Montemalone

Christianity may be morally equivalent to Islam in theory, most especially among those of no religious affiliation or beliefs, but in practice, Xtianity is progressive, Islamism, slightly less so.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

Representative Democracy is certainly the weak horse in the power struggles within Islam these days, being in direct conflict with the governing faith. The Grand Expirement is coming to a close. Those millions of little girls now in school in Afghanistan won't be within a year of our withdrawal. Oh well, we tried.

Hopefully, the level of struggle in the Mideast will keep the collective Islamist mind off the Great and Lesser Satans.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

It would be easier to continue to allow the trains on to Dallas to directly drop off the migrants at assembly areas near DFW Airport.  This is where Jenkins should set up these sprawling campuses, just incase they need to get to Disneyland.

I wonder what the total number is Dallas County can reasonably take care of?

andypandy
andypandy

@TheRuddSki  More often than you would think.  Even in the early re-settlement of Palestine by European Jews setting up kibbutz the Jews and primarily Muslim Palestinians got along, sometimes helped each other, and were able to coexist.  It wasn't until later with rising tides of Arab and Israeli nationalism following WWI and the fall of the Ottoman Empire that political tensions and animosity evolved. 

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@dingo Or the 1800's and Manifest Destiny and the Native American Holocaust, or Northern Ireland, or various other examples of Christian indiscriminate violence and killings today.

This is an idiotic topic to debate, since the violence and discrimination has little to do with religions and more to do with human nature.  People have always classed each other according differences instead of similarities; even the so-called progressive liberals on this board do it, thus mocking the truth of the label.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@dingo

ISIS appears to be advocates of open borders, opting for tribal, not national, allegiance. Sounds kind of familiar.

As an aside, I agreed with Joe Bidens three-state solution at the time, even though he was pilloried for such a thought. I figured this would benefit the Kurds most, while the Sunni and Shia could enjoy the lack of each other's company.

These natural divisions will occur with a few more years of bloodshed, but for America, it's popcorn time. Our Military accomplished its mission - free elections - now let's watch our politicians and Islamists accomplish their mission, which is to undo those accomplishments.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@dingo 

or the pogroms in Europe done by christians that happened as recently as last century.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@TheRuddSki Tell us everything you know about Islam, Ruddski. It shouldn't take more than a sentence or two.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki 

gee, what a great response to my point that muslims who embrace and value "democracy, self-determination, human rights, gay rights, women's rights, freedom, dogs" exist...what, you ignored that totally?

oh, ok.

or the point that the societies who have failed to embrace "democracy, self-determination, human rights, gay rights, women's rights, freedom, dogs" include many non-muslim ones, as I said tribalism and hatred isn't exclusive to this region or to this specific religion.

buy hey! if you feel better expressing generalizations about a group of people who in reality are varied in their outlook, goforit. the world has many haters, go ahead and be one if it floats your boat.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@holmantx

This is a fed issue. It's not a hurricane, it's not a crisis, why should Dallas County gov't even be involved?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@holmantx

I still say it's a fed problem, they have previously stressed that all matters immigration are strictly their purview

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@andypandy

Only a few rocket attacks yesterday, the friendship is growing.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

@TheRuddSki 

Given that that current borders in the Middle East were largely drawn up at the end of WWI largely by England, this is not surprising.  These borders represented commercial interests by the Western European governments and not any sort of regions for effective government.  Largely, it was splitting up the spoils of the defeated Ottoman Empire.

TheCredibleHulk
TheCredibleHulk topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

Back to "squiggly-borders". Things were relatively contained in that region until they were mucked up by cartographers with a penchant for straight edges.

dingo
dingo

@mavdog @dingo 

Hell, Eastern Europe has been one genocide after another last century.


I bought a used book called Chronology of 20th-Century Eastern European History once because it was cheap and it looked interesting.


I lost interest partway through because it was 500 continuous pages of one ethnic group killing another group.


The story gets old.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@bmarvel

Well, bmavel, when my son announced his intention to join USMC, his grandad (whose lifelong beat was Saudi Arabia) and I confabbed to assess where he would possibly encounter war.

Based on the words and actions of Clinton and Saddam, we agreed that Iraq would be that war.

We were right. But aside from that, for the five years preceding the invasion, i read quite a bit on and by Islam. From Juan Cole to Daniel Pipes, Robert Soencer to Ayatolah Khomeini

But, regardless of all those hours of study, I am dead-on certain that I couldn't hold a dim candle to your greater knowledge of the subject.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

... muslims who embrace and value "democracy, self-determination, human rights, gay rights, women's rights, freedom, dogs" exist...what, you ignored that totally?

Hard to spot, thereby easy to ignore.

Whenever I discuss those who are at war with us ("us" being the progressive west), some folks would rather I discuss those who are not at war with us.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@TheRuddSki Local democrats wanted to meet the President when he came to Dallas but they couldn't pay the entry fee to his fund raiser.

Then Perry showed up and ruined everything.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki 

Go ahead and ignore, as well as mock, the facts that andypandy states RuddSki, doesn't make them any less accurate (which they are).

just shows a ton about you, and your capability to honestly discuss the issue.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@TheCredibleHulk

Back to tribal borders. All those mid-east borders were invented by the west, not Allah.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@Sotiredofitall @TheRuddSki We've already abandoned the Kurds once, they were not about to make the mistake on relying on US poll popularity again.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Sotiredofitall

I don't think the Kurds are, or will put themselves in the position of dependency on the US.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@TheRuddSki Then I'm surprised, Ruddski, that more of what you've read hasn't found its way into your comments here. For example, Pipes' distinction between radical and moderate Islam.

But then, even though we may read widely, most of us understand only narrowly. Pipes himself once thought that the Oklahoma City bombing was the work of Muslim terrorists.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki 

"those who are war with us"

yeah, my point was "easy to ignore" as it complicates your narrative.

that would be some muslims, but not all muslims.

the fact that this simple concept escapes you is illuminating.

leftocenter
leftocenter

I was looking for JWP in the meeting...THAT would have made it a memorable photo op...

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@holmantx

That's Perry's job, he has always had the backing of a distinct minority. Hes a rightward Kucinich.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

I didn't mock known history, but it's history, and my reply reflected today, and it's accurate.

Sorry it upsets you.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@RTGolden1

We're too fickle to have all this power.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@bmarvel

Then I'm surprised, Ruddski, that more of what you've read hasn't found its way into your comments here. For example, Pipes' distinction between radical and moderate Islam.

In reality, I cite the difference and the implications of such in every single discussion I've ever had about Islam.

You are simply mistaken.

As to OKC, many people considered Islamist terrorism until facts were known.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

I've acknowledged that there are Muslims who are "moderate", that have acclimated. I've pointed out that, as an immigrant class, Muslims do well here, etc.

But every time I discuss the declared enemies of the west - a sizable and formidable group - you want to talk about those who are not at war with modernity, as though that somehow neutralizes the threat.

Your own government is MUCH more paranoid about Muslim-Americans than I could ever be.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

There may have been a turning point today.  Something about the President's performance here in Texas, particularly in Austin, that kinda creeped out even the Democrats.

At least to the depth of the Hillary supporters (ha!).

He's losing the country over this humanitarian Crisis.  They way he's so flip about it.  Wouldn't go to the border but couldn't stop hugging Gov Christie after that hurricane.  He's one very cold fish.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki 

oh no RuddSki, you failure to acknowledge andypandy's point, and how it shows your mockingly post "Yeah, Muslims have always been the Jews' BFF" to be ignorant of history, does in no way "upset" me.

it does cause me to chuckle a bit. thanks for that!

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Sotiredofitall

The Kurds seem to actually value greater freedoms than some in the region, I think they'll be much more willing to fight for them.

Ironically, the Turks may aid them, if needed.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@TheRuddSki "As to OKC, many people considered Islamist terrorism until facts were known."

Exactly.The same reason Pipes made the mistake. The Oklahoma building was a highly unlikely target for Muslim terrorism, but a likely target for the domestic variety.

Let me suggest a couple books if you want to continue your studies of modern Islam: "The Second Arab Awakening," by Marwan Muasher (yew, he's Muslim) and "The People Want" by Robert Achcar (he isn't).   

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki 

let's look again at your remarks about Islam..

Representative Democracy is certainly the weak horse in the power struggles within Islam these days, being in direct conflict with the governing faith

He, like the majority of the country, was convinced that Muslins could overcome the oppression of their religion

 Islam is incapable of all those things [democracy, self-determination, human rights, gay rights, women's rights, freedom]

no RuddSki, you are not "paranoid" about Musilms, and that is not what I've accused you of. you are merely prejudiced.

leftocenter
leftocenter

@holmantx @TheRuddSki

Why keep comparing this to a natural disaster like in Jersey or NOLA? 

No one is drowning.

No one's home has been destroyed.

There is no infrastructure damage or lack of electricity.

There are, instead, kids sleeping shoulder to shoulder on concrete floors.  Yes, they came here, but that's not how we treat our worst criminals. 

It is a humanitarian crisis not a natural disaster.  Stop the silly analogy.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

You're welcome.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@bmarvel @TheRuddSki Books are great for learning about the particular view of a subject the author holds.  Experience is a different sort of teacher.

It is true that Islam is a widespread and diverse religion, spanning the entire good/bad spectrum; as are all religions and humanity itself. So while Mav's, and presumably your own, views on Islam are correct, the Islam Rudd is painting is not an unheard, unseen ghost either.


TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@bmarvel

Google The Three Conjectures by Wretchard the cat 2003.

As a serious student of Islam, you might like it.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

Which statement do you disagree with?

You sure like stripping context.

Just call me anti-Muslim or whatever, supportable or not, and move on. For me, you contribute nothing to any discussion of Islam.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@leftocenter

The natural disaster caused a humanitarian crisis - the largest evacuation in American history.

Both evacuees overwhelmed facilities to the extent thousands had to "sleep shoulder to shoulder" on concrete floors.

The critical difference is, one was caused by a single-event natural disaster, the other was caused (according to a Homeland Security assessment) by dropping border enforcement.  And also according to Homeland Security, the numbers are going to geometrically increase if we do not get control of the border.

It is a hose - there is this end, that end, and the long middle.

Shut off our end, which takes the pressure off the other end, then have the Mexicans cut the middle and set up a conduit to flow them back to their countries of origin.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@RTGolden1 @bmarvel @TheRuddSki Agree, Golden. After 9/11 I was assigned by my paper to spend some time writing about the Muslim community. I did. But I also started reading whatever I could find that might be useful, including the Koran. I quickly realized that what I thought I knew was mostly false, and one could generalize about Islam with no more confidence than one could generalize about Christianity. 

Books can be very useful if you read widely and broadly enough.  The trouble is that too many people read only  to reinforce ideas they've already formed..  

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki 

Which statement do you disagree with?

any statement that portrays the entire religion as monolithic. it is irrational as saying "all christians" or "all jews". such a statement exhibits a flawed view of people, forments a stereotype that is negative and unearned.

as for "contribute" to "a discussion of Islam", with your pronounced prejudice and desire to portray the followers as a singular group that won't happen.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@mavdog @TheRuddSki I wonder why your indignation does not extend to the portrayal of another religion in monolithic fashion?

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@RTGolden1 

yeah, well, I'm guilty RT, I do make generalized comments about those darn Baha'i, but they deserve it...

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