Clay Jenkins Is Clay-J, Our Soprano Sax from the Heart

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Maybe a little less MJQ, a little more Kenny G is what we need on immigration issues.

At the risk of repeating myself, every time I see, hear or read Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins speaking about the immigrant kid issue, I'm struck by something dramatically new, almost shocking, in the way he frames the question. He starts from the heart. The heart. We don't get much of that lately, do we?

Couple days ago I was walking through a room and saw him on TV -- can't find my way back to it now to tell you for sure which local channel. I heard him saying something to the effect that these thousands of little souls showing up at the border are children and that no matter what else may be going on or what we may do about it, we must treat them as children, with kindness and love.

What is that? What do you call that stuff? Common decency? Moral responsibility? And why does it ring so clear? In the last several years the voice of the heart has been drowned out by the clamor of hard-edged cynicism, fear and pessimism. The heart has been AWOL.

Hearing it again now reminds us that the heart is our most powerful muscle. Stephen Young had a piece here yesterday about right-wing radio host Glenn Beck being moved to something like compassion by the simple awful plight of these kids. I thought it was a really interesting story, exposing a small window through which people at the far poles of the political spectrum can actually look each other in the eye and agree on this transcendent thing that for want of a better word we'll call decency.

With simple decency as a catalyst, who knows what chemistry of reason and compromise might be possible? In The New York Times today three powerful men from widely divergent places on the spectrum -- casino-owning right-wing fundster Sheldon G. Adelson, progressive billionaire Warren G. ("Please raise my taxes") Buffet and Bill ("I can write a check for World Peace") Gates -- have co-authored an essay insisting that Congress and the president figure out comprehensive immigration reform.

The trio make a music together that is cool-headed and rational but just a little cerebral. If I think of them as the Modern Jazz Quartet, I think they'd have more reach by making it a quintet and adding Clay Jenkins in there as Kenny G. on the soprano sax. Clay J.? Those heart-strings, man. Don't diss 'em.

A guy from Mexico works around at houses in our part of town. Everybody hires him, because he wants to work hard. He and I try to talk in spite of a pretty tough language barrier. He has six kids in Mexico. He hasn't been back in some years because once he leaves the country it's too difficult, expensive and dangerous now for him to get back in to this country across the border.

His young adult son came to visit him for a week on a tourist card. The father wanted me to meet the son. Very handsome, very well-mannered. In my horrible Spanish I told the son that his father is a strong man, an intelligent man and a good man. The son looked perplexed. I heard the father translate my Spanish into Spanish: "He's trying to tell you that I am a good worker."

The father told me later that his son came to Texas to tell him that he is now able to pay for the remaining two years of nursing school in Mexico by himself, that he no longer needs his father to pay his tuition and that the family wants him to come home. The father told the son he is proud of him and proud also to hear things had improved that much in Mexico. But he said the young man's younger sister is also smart, that she, too, is capable of being an estudiante. He cannot return to Mexico or see his family again for many years, he told his son, until his sister has finished her education.

I have given him rides home. He shares a one-bedroom apartment with two other men in a rat-infested building with no air conditioning, a short distance from my home. I have been re-reading Dickens lately. Nothing in Dickens' description of mid-19th century London slums comes close to the sheer squalor of that building near my own home in Dallas. I would write about it, but that would only make this man's life harder than it is already.

I think Clay Jenkins' heartfelt speech on this issue connects directly with a deep pain we all carry in our own hearts. I'm not telling you I have the answer. The three billionaires are right: There are answers out there if we only put our heads together. But Jenkins is right, too. It starts in the heart.



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noblefurrtexas
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Any notion that Clay Jenkins is another Clay-J is incredibly misdirected.  He is turning out the be dishonest, deceitful, and a puppet for Obama.  You HAVE to wonder what he expects in return from the White House. 


Here are the salient points: 


1.  Jenkins said there would be 2,000 children.  The truth is it's over 10,000, and could be tens of thousands. 


2.  Jenkins promised town hall meetings with area residents. That was obviously a lie. He's now refused to have town hall meetings since residents discovered point #1.  They're NOT happy...and I had to clean that up.  But, the bottom line is that Jenkins deceit amounts to censorship of citizen dissents - one of the reasons for our Constitution.


3.  Jenkins met with Obama when the President was here. Dallas County voters have yet to know what that meeting was all about, but one topic was surely his swapping 2,000 kids for endless number of children. I wonder if they talked about Jenkins becoming a federal judge. 


4.  Jenkins said these children won't cost area governments anything, and that the feds are covering ALL the costs...of course that's with borrowed money they don't have at taxpayer expense.  But, anyone who believes Dallas cities and the county won't pay for any of this, raise your hand before your shrink appointment.

hwy77
hwy77

As long as we're paying undocumented workers to scatter grass clippings around with gas powered blowers, I'd say the economy is doing OK, gas prices aren't that high, and Americans aren't too worried about immigration, air quality, or climate change.

aintmisbehavin
aintmisbehavin

Everybody's making money so much money even the poor people can pay more than most Americans. Guatemalan military making money, police, politicans, coyotes and now Texas border towns with that outpouring of compa$$ion and bi-lingual speakers wanted (Hispanics) to house these children they will now make money allowments fro the USA taxpayers.The Latino community sells it as humanitarianism and stuff their pockets. Why bother to smuggle drugs when there's so much money in illegal legal human trafficking..So now the Texas border towns with Hispanic populations and many illegal themselves have found their newest cash crop why pick tomatoes.. 

Deals with coyotes average $7,000 USD these are not poor people invading the border they may have been sent money from illegal immigrants in the USA that are taking USA jobs and under cutting labour in the United States.or have more savings then many USA citizens

roo_ster
roo_ster

Yet another example of a liberal morally preening about their compassion and magnanimous behavior while using taxpayer dollars to do so.

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noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

Basic Expense Accounting 101:


The way government works at the federal level, the 2,000 illegals have already turned into over 10,000 illegals, and that means the actual number will end up at 15,000 or more. 


That's about 10% of the student population of DISD....give or take a little.  So, that's a huge increase in DISD costs, and therefore taxes. Dallas taxpayers will pay for most of that. 


These children are being treated at VA facilities over veterans, and will be treated in Parkland Hospital, which is paid for by Dallas taxpayers. Crowding out veterans so children can be treated will cost veterans who need medical care, because they will have to seek private care. 

Additional law enforcement and criminal justice expenses will be horrific, and these are paid by Dallas County taxpayers. 

We may have to give some of these illegals Texas Drivers Licenses, but they will not be required to take driving classes.  This will up local insurance rates, and cost many people in Dallas for accidents since these minors will be uninsured and not financially responsible. 

Where will they live.  How will they get to school so they can sit in classes with your children?  How many translators will be necessary to deal with all of them?  We will pay for that. 

And, the costs going on and on and up and up.  





TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

If the "guy from Mexico" were legal, would there be a story to tell?

There's an entire subset of the labor market whose demands are even greater, but their earning power is greatly impacted because they do not enjoy the legal protections of their rights.

dingo
dingo

It does not seem so cerebral, IMHO, the billionaires, in the article, are straightforward pushing for high-skilled immigration reform.


Silicon Valley previously tried to get high-skilled immigration reform in a piecemeal fashion but the democrats said no way.

So the billionaires are attempting to get high-skilled immigration reform passed any way they can (through a comprehensive bill).


Most if not all democrats require a pathway to citizenship for low-skilled workers in any comprehensive plan.


House republicans are against a pathway to citizenship for low-skilled workers because Reagan's 1986 amnesty plan did not close the borders as promised and because of Cantor's recent ouster. Paying heed to Cantor's ouster can also be interpreted as paying heed to your constituents.


A pathway to citizenship during this porous border crisis seems unlikely.

The author's tie in with Clay Jenkins seems to be a conflation of what the billionaires want with what the democrats want.


The 'guy from Mexico' emotional anecdote hits home with anyone of us that are torn between our personal acquaintances and the realization that our society is based upon rules and that it cannot withstand the strain of an uncontrolled influx of people. 


wontunow
wontunow

@aintmisbehavin You are 100% correct, Aint. And that $3.7 Billion is lot of money to spread over that relatively small border area.  Many palms will be greased.  That is so much taxpayer money, I would not doubt some of it ends up in Mexico itself.


And it will not only be monetary gain, but political gain as well.  At election time, some politicians will stand and say," Look what I did during the "Humanitarian Crisis" at the border."  And then look at my opponent, "Why he is just a child hater!" 


This is a giant S-C-A-M being perpetrated on taxpaying Americans and all Americans as well.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@wontunow 

you post the most repulsive hate-filled anti-semetic garbage.

your message is disgusting, "Brother" Nathanael is vermin.

birds of a feather fly together....

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@bvckvs The children are neither refugees nor little children.  Over 80% of them are between 14 and 18 years old.  They were sent here for money and government welfare; not to flee war or oppression.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@noblefurrtexas 

These children are being treated at VA facilities over veterans....We may have to give some of these illegals Texas Drivers Licenses, but they will not be required to take driving classes.

can you provide any actual, factual validation of these claims?

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki 

yes, extend citizenship to these people who live/work in the shadows and allow them to enjoy legal protections!

I've have made this argument for the "pathway to citizenship" like you just did RudSki. glad to have you see the light!

JFPO
JFPO

Way to take a shit all over the concept of basic human decency, but that's what conservatives do these days.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@dingo 

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Sheldon Adelson couldn't care less about skilled vs unskilled immigrants. His business doesn't depend on one or the other.

Buffet and Berkshire likewise isn't focused heavily on skilled workers either. so your initial premise pretty much falls flat.

guess what? the republicans were against "pathway to citizenship" waaayyyy before the recent Cantor primary loss, so that is not a valid point either.

The accurate statement is republicans are against "pathway to citizenship" because their fear is those new citizens will remember how the republicans acted towads them all these years and won't vote for a republican.

The author's tie in with Clay Jenkins seems to be a conflation of what the billionaires want with what the democrats want.

OK, so you left off republicans, and they don't want to provide needed food, shelter and clothing to these kids? thanks for clearing that up.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@wontunow

Gov. Perry told Obama two years ago that "... there is a surge of unaccompanied illegal minors entering the United States. Apart from being part of an obvious humanitarian crisis, these unaccompanied illegal minors have left the federal government scrambling to triage the results of its failed border security and immigration policies.”

The response from Obama?

"Fore!"

aintmisbehavin
aintmisbehavin

@mavdogAnd what was in-correct? maybe you need to respond with some evidence to the contrary.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@mavdog @TheRuddSki I sincerely believe people who are here illegally, and who have not violated other laws, should have a work permit that also requires them to pay taxes. 


However, it would be wrong and insulting to those seeking LEGAL immigration to automatically make illegals citizens. 


American citizenship is too valuable "declare".  Reagan found that out.  Those who want to be citizens should get in line, and wait behind those who have already applied for citizenship.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

Yes, your "compassion" lies with foreign nationals, not Americans in the low-end labor market, we know.

dingo
dingo

@JFPO 

Where specifically did I  'shit all over the concept of basic human decency' or are you just squawking because it feels good to squawk?

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@mavdog " republicans are against pathway to citizenship" because..."

My own suspicion, mavdog, is that Republicans are against such pathways because they perceive their hard-core constituents are against it. It's really that simple. 

dingo
dingo

@mavdog 

As evidenced by the linked article, Sheldon Adelson and Buffet co-authored an article pushing for high skilled immigration. Do you want me to copy and paste the exact text because you are unable to digest the very explicit gist of the article or can we just assume you are either challenged in basic reading skills or very bad at lying?

Republicans were against "pathway to citizenship" right after Reagan realized his amnesty act was the stupidest thing he ever did in office.


The consensus reason for why the republicans are against "pathway to citizenship" is out there for all to see. Voters will vote for whoever they think will provide them the most benefit. 


I left off the republicans because I was responding to the author making a connection between the billionaires and Jenkins, as a quintet, how quintessential.


If you slow down and give things a minute you might get those gears back engaged, otherwise hold fast.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@aintmisbehavin

serious? you ask for "evidence to the contrary" that there is a jewish conspiracy behind illegal immigration?

anyone who gives bigots such as this ANY credibility are culpable in the bigotry and stupidity they represent.

aintmisbehavin
aintmisbehavin

@bvckvs @noblefurrtexas Of course you are let's look at that Texas Compa$$ion,,Hmmm the Hispanic leaders are requesting bi-lingual volunteers to house these children so basically all you Texans that don't speak spanish need not apply and guess who is available that speak spanish for a price of course..Hey a new cash crop that the compassionate Hispanic community can pick together both legal and illegal ..Why smuggle drugs,why pick tomatoes  ain't America great... 

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@bvckvs @noblefurrtexas It has nothing to do with conspiracy.  It has to do with Border Patrol agents talking to friends and talking to the media (anonymously). 



Facts are facts. 

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@noblefurrtexas 

However, it would be wrong and insulting to those seeking LEGAL immigration to automatically make illegals citizens

the proposals made for establishing the process of current illegal immigrants residing in the US to obtain citizenship do not "automatically make illegals citizens".

far from it, in the proposals  there are multiple requirements for them to satisfy in order to complete the process.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@TheRuddSki ... if the low-level Americans can't compete in that Great "Free Market" Capitalist Experiment that is the U$A, then perhaps they don't deserve to live in this country, regardless of which trailer park their crack-whore alcoholic mothers gave birth to them in.


hth.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki 

what, you weren't supporting my position to legalize these illegals? I am devastated...

your response is illogical.

if as you claim the workers who are outside the legal labor market bring the wages for low end labor down, should the workers who are outside the legal labor market be brought INSIDE the legal labor market, they would not be able to bring down the wages for low end labor. they would not be in the shadows anymore and they would enjoy legal protection.

really, a very rational approach. it works.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@bmarvel Republicans have a fundamental belief in, and insist on government comply with, The Rule of Law. 


That includes immigrant and aliens. 


Republicans also recognize that Democrats want to import more illegals so they can be granted citizenship and pull the Democratic lever in elections.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@dingo 

the article discusses more than skilled immigration, it deals with all ranges of skills for immigration.

you look at the issue with your lens firmly affixed on you glasses, and you fail to see what is in front of you.

blinders are blinders, period. you utilze them well.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@mavdog @noblefurrtexas "Pathway to citizenship" is ObamaCode for new Democrat voters.


We already have a working pathway to citizenship, and that's all we need.  Obama's lust to speed it up rings hollow.  Why would Americans want new voters that cannot speak English, do not understand our history and culture, and certainly don't understand our politics.

aintmisbehavin
aintmisbehavin

@DonkeyHotay @TheRuddSki Oh another "free enterpriser house flipper who has found he can take all his family to disneyland from the profits he reaps using illegal immigrants...

dingo
dingo

@mavdog @TheRuddSki 

'should the workers who are outside the legal labor market be brought INSIDE the legal labor market, they would not be able to bring down the wages for low end labor.'


I sure would like to hear more from the professor on this revelation which flies in the face of the long established theory of labor market equilibrium:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBOPPzvUu2E.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

So, logically, you'll have to establish a permanent dual-track immigration system.

Anyone who can get across our borders and evade law for a certain time gets the same reward as those who follow the law.

No legal immigrant I know would agree with you, but hopefully that'll make you chuckle.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@noblefurrtexas @bmarvel You write as though law were something apart from the people or parties, 

The notion that Republicans want to keep undocumented immigrants out because "it's the law," whereas Democrats want them in to garner more votes is dishonest on the face of it. 

If, as you say, "illegals" represent potential Democratic votes, then obviously Republicans want to keep them out in order to prevent a larger Democratic turnout. It has nothing to do with a "fundamental beiief in The Rule of Law" and everything to do with who gets to make the law. 

There are no eternal principles of law or justice involved here, noble, but simply partisan politics as usual.
       

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@noblefurrtexas  Uh... How conveniently Republicans forget their peccadilloes, crimes and misdemeanors:  Tom Delay, Mike Crapo, Rick Renzi, Trey Radel, Bob Ney, Larry Craig, Duke Cunningham, Bill Janklow, Wes Cooley, Buz Lukens, Jay Kim, David Durenberger, James Watt, Caspar Weinberger, Oliver North, Elliott Abrams, John Poindexter, Richard "I am not a crook" Nixon.  Shall I go on?

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@mavdog @bmarvel As ypu wisely point out, "is not specific to."  "Immigration reform" is broad enough to encompass anything from amnesty to turning them back at the border. 

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@aintmisbehavin 

it's not that they are not doing what they do not have to do, and not what they will not do, not that there's anything wrong with that.[/sarcasm]

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@noblefurrtexas 

Why would Americans want new voters that cannot speak English, do not understand our history and culture, and certainly don't understand our politics

well, with that list it is clear they would fit right in with the vast majority of Americans!

OK, OK, it was a joke.

your position seems very similar to the proposal made by Obama BTW....

"We’ve got to lay out a path — a process that includes passing a background check, paying taxes, paying a penalty, learning English, and then going to the back of the line, behind all the folks who are trying to come here legally. That's only fair"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/immigration/earned-citizenship

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@dingo 

can you establish the point of optimum supply and demand for labor today? how about tomorrow?

no, you can't.

I sure want to hear more on how this point is static, on this "equilibrium" that you apparently believe you can establish.

your supposition seems to be the market cannot absorb these workers without a negative affect. too much supply is what you are saying, right?

here's a newsflash: the supply already exists. demand has been absorbing the workers already.

so much for your falacious logic.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@bmarvel @noblefurrtexas


Exactly!


Grant them ALL Amnesty, and they'll no longer be "illegal".


Now what veil will the Rethuglykkkans pretend to hide their vile racism, hatred and bigotry behind?



wontunow
wontunow

@mavdog @aintmisbehavin  I would like to thank the DO for allowing true freedom of speech on this forum.  And I certainly mean no offense to Mr. Shutze.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@mavdog @noblefurrtexas Again, we already HAVE a path that has worked well for over 100 years, and made American the strongest and most productive country in the world.  Why change that? 


Those here illegally who have done no wrong need to: 


1.  Register as foreign aliens

2.  Provide work history

3.  Pay fines for being here illegally

4.  Be given a family work permit family registration number (similar to social security number)

5.  Pass a test for crime records

6.  Provide a DNA sample

7.  Have family members provide DNA samples

8.  Pay income taxes at the same rate as Americans

9.  Report by phone whereabouts and name of employer(s) every three months

10. Agree to have registration, insurance, and driving classes to get a drivers license

11.  Agree, if applying for citizenship, to go back to the country of origin and apply, going to the back of the line, and then return to the U.S. 

12.  Agree to follow all laws and regulations in the United States on penalty of immediate deportation


That's my prescription for dealing with the illegals already here. 


But, we MUST seal the borders and prevent more from coming in.


TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

... and then going to the back of the line, behind all the folks who are trying to come here legally.

"Back of the line" meaning "this side of the border".

dingo
dingo

@mavdog @dingo 

My point needs no further explanation: anyone that would make the following statement is an idiot:

'should the workers who are outside the legal labor market be brought INSIDE the legal labor market, they would not be able to bring down the wages for low end labor.' 


Furthermore, your attempt to explain your way out of that paper bag flies in the face of the government's U-6 unfavorable employment numbers and additionally flies in the face the government's lousy low skilled worker  unemployment numbers. 

At this point you really have to ask yourself this question:

Do you want me to cut and paste those numbers do prove that you are wrong ONCE AGAIN!?!?!?!!?



noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@dingo @mavdog For the most part, unskilled (and even some skilled) labor is a free market that depends on supply and demand.  If you took Cost Theory in college Economics, then you know the more you have of something, the lower the price - demand being about even.  With workers competing against each other, for jobs, and given equal qualifications, the less expensive worker gets the job.


Illegal aliens have substantially lowered the price for landscapping, as an example, and they also depressed salary increases in the fast food market. 



mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@dingo

Only an imbecile would bring up "equilibrium of the labor market" as a reason to not legalize the illegal workers, who are ALREADY in the labor market.

Congrats, you have won the title of the village idiot!

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

"By increasing the overall population and particularly the number of working-age labor force participants, reform can help expand the economy, contribute to higher overall average wages, generate more consumer spending, and spur new demand for residential housing construction. By supporting stronger economic growth, immigration reform can also reduce the federal budget deficit substantially."

http://bipartisanpolicy.org/sites/default/files/BPC_Immigration_Economic_Impact.pdf

aintmisbehavin
aintmisbehavin

@mavdog He faces stiff competition I'll nominate you for village idiot you at least have one su

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@mavdog Unless the expansion is largely PRODUCTIVE people, as has been the case in American immigration for over 100 years, the demand for new entitlements and government support DESTROYS any benefits and raises taxes and lowers government services for Americans here legally and who are productive.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@aintmisbehavin 

well, with the post above it is clear that you are working very, very hard to earn the title.

congrats, you have accomplished your goal!

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@noblefurrtexas 

interesting, your language is strikingly the same as what some people said about the Irish wave of immigration of 150 years ago, and the Chinese wave, and the Eastern European wave, and now the Hispanic wave....

all I can say is if you believe these Hispanic immigrants, who I see daily working their ass off to earn a living, aren't "productive" you are blind.

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