NRA Calls Texas Open Carry Protests "Downright Weird" and "Just Not Neighborly"

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Mike Mezeul II
An open-carry demonstration outside Downtown Dallas' First Presbyterian Church in January 2013
Open Carry Texas and its most active local offshoot, Open Carry Tarrant County, have succeeded marvelously in their quest to mercilessly troll gun-control advocates. Whether they've made any progress toward their stated aim of legalizing openly carried handguns in Texas, however, is another matter.

The National Rifle Association, for one, thinks it may be counterproductive. In a blog post, NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, the most powerful pro-gun group in America, wrote that demonstrating with assault rifles in Chipotle and Home Depot parking lots may be hurting the push for expanded Second Amendment rights.

Now we love AR-15s and AKs as much as anybody, and we know that these sorts of semiautomatic carbines are among the most popular, fastest selling firearms in America today. Texas, independent-minded and liberty-loving place that it is, doesn't ban the carrying of loaded long guns in public, nor does it require a permit for this activity. Yet some so-called firearm advocates seem determined to change this.

Recently, demonstrators have been showing up in various public places, including coffee shops and fast food restaurants, openly toting a variety of tactical long guns. Unlicensed open carry of handguns is legal in about half the U.S. states, and it is relatively common and uncontroversial in some places.

Yet while unlicensed open carry of long guns is also typically legal in most places, it is a rare sight to see someone sidle up next to you in line for lunch with a 7.62 rifle slung across his chest, much less a whole gaggle of folks descending on the same public venue with similar arms.

Let's not mince words, not only is it rare, it's downright weird and certainly not a practical way to go normally about your business while being prepared to defend yourself. To those who are not acquainted with the dubious practice of using public displays of firearms as a means to draw attention to oneself or one's cause, it can be downright scary. It makes folks who might normally be perfectly open-minded about firearms feel uncomfortable and question the motives of pro-gun advocates.

As a result of these hijinx, two popular fast food outlets have recently requested patrons to keep guns off the premises (more information can be found here and here). In other words, the freedom and goodwill these businesses had previously extended to gun owners has been curtailed because of the actions of an attention-hungry few who thought only of themselves and not of those who might be affected by their behavior. To state the obvious, that's counterproductive for the gun owning community.

More to the point, it's just not neighborly, which is out of character for the big-hearted residents of Texas. Using guns merely to draw attention to yourself in public not only defies common sense, it shows a lack of consideration and manners. That's not the Texas way. And that's certainly not the NRA way.

Open Carry Texas responded with a bitter rebuttal, accusing the NRA of being a weak-kneed defender of the gun-phobic status quo:

The NRA has lost its relevance and sided with #guncontrolextremists and their lapdog media. No one in NRA leadership has ever been to an OCT event, but feels competent to speak out against them. Keep in mind, the NRA has done nothing in Texas to get open carry passed to this point and continues to fight it in our state. After all, they make money through licensing schemes of our rights, so unlicensed open carry hurts their bottom line.

This claim isn't exactly true. Two months ago the NRA's main Texas lobbyist spoke before the state Senate's Rural Affairs & Homeland Security Committee as it debated whether to ease gun laws in Texas. Matter of fact, she addressed the committee immediately before Open Carry Texas founder CJ Grisham took the podium.

In her testimony, she made the NRA's position on openly carried handguns abundantly clear:

"I think everybody should have that right."

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bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

Guy wearing combat fatigues and openly carrying a rifle shot five Royal Mounted Police in Canada yesterday. Something to think about when one of these doofuses shows up at your neighborhood Sonic. 

kergo1spaceship
kergo1spaceship

And who are we arming ourselves against?  The Kurds?  The Germans? Obama? Texas?  Rick Perry? Are The British coming back to claim the Northeast?  If I were that insecure that I had to bring my gun to some shitty fast food joint full of olds and kids, man, I'd just give up!  Probably just move to Canada or mexico and live off the land. 

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

This shit is getting out of hand

http://www.kniferights.org

But, considering that Medicare, which won't pay for dental or even yearly physicals, will now pay to have old men neutered, these guys might come in handy - save America some money!

kergo1spaceship
kergo1spaceship

I didn't read this dumb story, or the EVEN dumber comments.  Look at that picture, does anyone of those dipshits appeared have anything going on today? I mean, we are so far askewed from the right to bear arms, and what it means.......now we have Cletus and Randy from Little Elm making the only statement to make them relevant.



longdongsilver15
longdongsilver15

Is it really necessary to walk around with a rifle? These people are scaring the crap out of people. These people are a detriment.

jonathan52677478
jonathan52677478

It seems the only people who have a problem with our open carry law of rifles are corporations and people outside of Texas. Good stay the hell out. F Chipotle and their bs, f the NRA for their selective pro gunning and fuck the coots from out of state that like big brother having the choice to come buttrape your rights whenever they feel like it. If I am walking through a mall and I see a guy with a large assault rifle I am never worried. You know why because my state trusts me to have a conceal carry permit which allows me to pull out my .45 when shit goes down.

Angrywhiteguy
Angrywhiteguy

Your photo: "An open-carry demonstration outside Downtown Dallas' First Presbyterian Church in January 2013"..........seriously?

That was not an open carry "demonstration". It was a response to the gun buy back that the church was doing. A few gun collectors knew that the church was ripping people off and set up their own buy back across the street.


Once again the Observer punts when "journalism" is needed.

PlanoDave
PlanoDave

I have learned something very important from the prolific posting of the Donkey today.  Summer break has begun.

P1Gunter
P1Gunter

Good god this blog misses Wilonsky. Its 3pm and we have one post?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Another "Law Abiding Gun Owner" ... right up to the moment he pulled the trigger!


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Just-Sharon
Just-Sharon

Why aren't they marching down MLK to show off macho prowess.  Maybe going to the First Baptist Church to keep Robert Jeffress from being raped by gay men or forced to abort. 


Yet they go where an 8 year old girl might be getting some ice cream or Grand Ma picking up her blood pressure medicines. Shock & Awe or Shucks & Ahh?   

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

Of course! These doofuses are the best friends the anti-gun folks have. Encourage them. Next time they swagger into your restaurant or convenience store, buy them a beer. Hell, buy them a six pack or two. Nothing says responsible gun ownership like some pistol-packing bozo tanked up on alcohol.  

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@bmarvel ... do what the cops do when encountering citizens with guns ... shoot first, ask questions later


... then cover it up.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@kergo1spaceship 

They're arming themselves against American people.

Ironically, they can't leave the country because there's no other peoples on earth who will tolerate their psychotic behavior.

kergo1spaceship
kergo1spaceship

@longdongsilver15


it is making the case worse when you show up at Chipotle with an AK-47, in light of TREMENDOUS gun crimes in the past 20 years.....these people are not smart. 

kergo1spaceship
kergo1spaceship

@jonathan52677478


besides, if the people outside of Texas (SF Austin!) didn't come and improve this state, ya'll would still be living in huts!

kergo1spaceship
kergo1spaceship

@jonathan52677478



let's see....I detect old truck, alcoholism, rebel flag, divorce, anger issues. 



# good luck


ps-"If I am walking through a mall and I see a guy with a large assault rifle"; don't be an over dramatic queen dude. 

MissMacy
MissMacy

@jonathan52677478 I live in Texas, and everybody here thinks you and your pals are a bunch of asswipes. You're ammosexuals and muzzlestrokers who are so terrified of life and society that you can't leave home without your weapons. Sad little boys, all of you.

DavyCrockett
DavyCrockett

@jonathan52677478 "It seems the only people who have a problem with our open carry law of rifles are corporations and people outside of Texas"

It seems that you don't get out much or have a social circle outside of these idiots.

Bobtex
Bobtex

@jonathan52677478 Wrong.  Most people I know oppose people like you brandishing your arsenal at the malls, at our churches, at our schools, and on our streets.  Your guns are your feeble attempt to compensate for something else that you lack.  YOU are the folks that the rest of us need protection from.

Just-Sharon
Just-Sharon

@Angrywhiteguy  An angry white guy feels a church was ripping people off in their purchase of guns so they demonstrated by toting their guns around in public. 


That pretty much speaks for itself and doesn't require journalism.  Besides if you haven't figured it out, the Tone here leans far to the right. 

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@Angrywhiteguy 

Clearly, you don't understand the meaning of the word "demonstration".

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@P1Gunter Actually, I just thought about this, and I think last Friday was Eric's last day as a full time blogger for Unfair Park.  I believe Tone tweeted something about it.  So the lack of, is probably because the new guy is in orientation and we all know, no one EVER does any actual work on the first day of a new job

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@P1Gunter yup, one post and more comments than the other normal 4 or 5 we would have gotten combined.  They are probably still in a circle jerk meeting about how great Tone's article on Halt and Catch Fire was and how it drove ratings in DFW.  (j/k, I love you Joe)

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@P1Gunter

If the post has to do with guns, God, or Glenn Beck, then there's no need for more than one every five hours, Top Commenters work dirt cheap, why pay a writer?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay

Right there is a graphic example of why so many people around the world value their right to equal protection.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Just-Sharon

Why aren't they marching down MLK to show off macho prowess.

Maybe because race war isn't what they want?

OTOH, we haven't seen a first-person account from anyone in this forum who has gone to confront these potential killers and engage them in conversation.

P1Gunter
P1Gunter

I miss when Shuck n' Jive had $1 pints during happy hour.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay

The BACKLASH is already spreading to Colorado

A long-existant advocacy group whose mission statement is to demand action is demanding action again, and a private business made a judgement call in their favor. No constitutional issues apply.

Regardless, gun rights and sales are expanding in the US. The crazy rednecks have really already won the war.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@bmarvel 

re:  "These doofuses are the best friends the anti-gun folks have. "

That's so very true.  The best way to make gun-violence advocates look ridiculous is to give them an open microphone and the chance to speak their... let's call it "minds".

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@bmarvel ... what part of "Shall NOT Be Infringed" don't these gun-grabbers comprehend?



TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@ScottsMerkin

Guy hasn't even started, and he's in re-education camp already

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@TheRuddSki those people dont want to conversate, they want to demonstrate and make a scene, otherwise why do they congregate in groups in largely visible highly trafficked areas

russell.allison1
russell.allison1

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz @Just-Sharon A grown man shopping at Bed, Bath and Beyond for say...a fushia throw pillow for the couch is all the more disturbing if that grown man is carrying an assault weapon.  There are just some assumptions we should be able to make about gun weilding men and one of those is that they shouldn't shop at Bed, Bath and Beyond.  Does Cabela's carry throw pillows?

wcvemail
wcvemail

@DonkeyHotay @bmarvel

Donkey, with respect, you're missing the whole point of OCT, starting with their name. They're not protesting any active, present attempt to grab their guns. Rather, they're advocating for open carrying of side arms, just as carrying long guns is presently legal in Texas.

P1Gunter
P1Gunter

Where does well regulated militia factor in?

disgruntledtoaster
disgruntledtoaster

@TheRuddSki  Oh, so gun crimes are trending down? Then lets bring out assault rifles to Chipotle and Chili's! Because THAT makes sense! Idiot.


TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@ScottsMerkin

You're being prejudicial, if I have the opportunity to approach these guys and present reasonable argument disagreeing with their position, I'll do it.

Other than merely being there with arms and conversing with people, I don't see that they're making much of a "scene".

For a true "scene", you need the labor unions involved.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@wcvemail @DonkeyHotay @bmarvel I agree completely, wcvemil. But I think OCT has been curiously timid in pressing for their rights. 

Dare I say -- cowardly?

A real red-blooded American gun-bearer would carry the crusade right into the heart of enemy territory.  Guns in Chili's and Home Depot and public intersections mean nothing.

Tote those guns right into churches, old folks' homes. A hospital, an orphanage. City Hall. The Constitution doesn't say "shall not be infringed here and there." It says "shall not be infringed." Period. Once you compromise on one place -- Okay, I'll stay out of schools -- you've lost the battle and conceded the principle that your beloved Second Amendment can be infringed for the public good or some other liberal sloganeering.

We're watching you, OCT. Are you going to assert your manhood or are you going to cave to a bunch of martini-sipping Washington lobbyists who say they represent gun-owners, but who really represent gun manufacturers?  

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@wcvemail @DonkeyHotay @bmarvel


Perhaps the law should be reversed, mandating that any pistol packers do it OPENLY, and eliminating those cowards who conceal their weapons.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@P1Gunter ... using the selective illiteracy of the Gun Loon Lobby, it doesn't factor in at all.


And "shall NOT be infringed" only applies to them, not to "the other guys".



TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@disgruntledtoaster

That'll teach me to post facts.

Just-Sharon
Just-Sharon

@TheRuddSki You have every opportunity to approach these guys and present your reasonable argument by disagreeing with their position. 


What is stopping you?  Free country.  Go for it.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@TheRuddSki this is what happens when you try to conversate with one of them


"It seems the only people who have a problem with our open carry law of rifles are corporations and people outside of Texas. Good stay the hell out. F Chipotle and their bs, f the NRA for their selective pro gunning and fuck the coots from out of state that like big brother having the choice to come buttrape your rights whenever they feel like it. If I am walking through a mall and I see a guy with a large assault rifle I am never worried. You know why because my state trusts me to have a conceal carry permit which allows me to pull out my .45 when shit goes down."



TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@disgruntledtoaster

If you don't like facts, make up your own.

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