GOP Candidate Tony Tinderholt Says He Didn't Catch Illegal Immigrants. He Just Learned about Them, Called Border Patrol

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On Saturday, when the other, more ordinary candidates for the Texas House of Representatives were probably making campaign calls or hanging out with their lame families, Arlington Republican Tony Tinderholt appeared to be on a bolder mission.

Dressed in camouflage gear, Tinderholt posed for three photographs posted to Facebook Saturday night under the caption, "On patrol, catching illegal immigrants tonight!"

He was on a private ranch, he tells Unfair Park, with Texas Border Volunteers, a group that takes a D.I.Y approach to fighting illegal immigration. But he realized after he arrived there would be no actual "catching" involved.

"I thought they were actually catching illegal immigrants, but they're not. What they're doing is identifying and tracking criminal trespassers on private property ranches," he tells Unfair Park.

Not that Tinderholt was expecting to put the trespassers in cuffs himself. But he thought the volunteers would stop the trespassers directly, offer them some water, explain to them that "this is not fun" and call the authorities.

"I thought they would actually have face-to-face time with these people," he adds. "They don't do that all."

After realizing his error, Tinderholt went back on Facebook and changed the verbiage in his album from "catching" to "tracking."

He worked an estimated 8-hour shift, during which he spotted four trespassers. The volunteers called the authorities. What happened next is anyone's guess.

"We finished up our shift and went back, but Border Patrol was still looking for them when we left."

Tinderholt defeated District 94 incumbent Diane Patrick in the Republican primary and will face Democrat Cole Ballweg in the general election this November. He's been running on a far-right platform, aligning himself with the Tea Party and pushing border security as one of his key issues.

He's careful to point out that he feels sympathetic to the plight of the immigrants themselves, and insists that his weekend mission wasn't mean-spirited. "Some of these ranchers are very humanitarian and want to make sure these people aren't dying, but also want to make sure they're caught and sent back to their own country," he says. "I wish people would be positive about the fact that you have legislators that want to learn about this."

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Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

Hysterical, paranoid right-wing loons are frightened to death of a few hundred starving children camped out at the border waiting to get in to our country so they can kill us all and destroy the United States.


Right-wing loons sneer at "hysterical, paranoid" scientists who have proof of human-induced climate change that threatens the planet's very existence.


Uh....  

tam_tagon
tam_tagon

Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses, yearning to breath free,

The wertched refuse of your teeming shore,

Send these, the homeless, tempest tost to me,

I life my lamp beside the golden door.

doublecheese
doublecheese

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz This is what happens all over the world when too many immigrants move into a country and don't assimilate.  Especially when they keep their own language.  Why do you think we'll be the exception?  Ever hear of Aztlan?  The reconquista?  That's not some conspiracy.  There are activists trying to accomplish that right now.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@tam_tagon

but come through the gate, not over the fence.

Our existence as a nation depends upon it.

And it is our existence which is at issue, and He knows it.

Self preservation is one reflex He has not recognized and it will be his downfall.

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @doublecheese


Stinky, you know damn well the "American Indian" was not the first into No. America.  So what relevance does "Navajo or Apache" have?

doublecheese
doublecheese

@DonkeyHotay @doublecheese Tell you what.  When the Apaches establish an actual country with a government, borders, and a constitution, I promise I'll learn their language if I ever move to that country.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@doublecheese @Myrna.Minkoff-Katz 

Typical anti-immigrant crap.  You just lied about those kids because you hate immigrants so much.

It's no wonder you're ashamed to post under your own name.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

@doublecheese The Apache Mescalero Tribe is a sovereign nation.  Their reservation is in southeastern New Mexico.  Ever ski at Ruidoso?  That is their mountain.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@holmantx = history fail


The FRENCH Statue of Liberty didn't exist until decades after the Genocidal Pogrom of Manifest Destiny invaded and stole the lands from the Native Americans.

dingo
dingo

@doublecheese @Myrna.Minkoff-Katz @CaronaDelMar 

Myrna is a moron. 

She epitomizes what is wrong with the far left to the majority of the rest of the country.

Here diatribe here is doing more harm to her cause than she could ever realize because she is always the last one to realize the tenuous grasp on reality that she exhibits.

Example: An Unprecedented 35k/month refugees coming into Texas is no big deal.

doublecheese
doublecheese

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz @doublecheese http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-texas-border-chaos-20140614-story.html#page=1


Read it and weep.  "The Rio Grande Valley has become ground zero for an unprecedented surge in families and unaccompanied children flooding across the Southwest border, creating what the Obama administration is calling a humanitarian crisis as border officials struggle to accommodate new detainees. Largely from Central America, they are now arriving at a rate of more than 35,000 a month."


Myrna, does it hurt to be this uninformed?  

doublecheese
doublecheese

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul @doublecheese Awesome.  Will they let me emigrate there?  I hope so.  Then I can start learning the Apache language and assimilating to their culture.  This IS one of those tribes that gets to do drugs in ceremonies, right?

doublecheese
doublecheese

@DonkeyHotay @holmantx Smallpox took out most of the Native Americans before most of them ever saw a white man.  The western US was almost completely uninhabited at that point, save a few tribes here and there.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@dingo  Such horror!  Such terror!  All caused by immigrant infants armed to the hilt with machine guns, tanks, weapons of mass destruction, leaving behind a scorched Earth, a post-apocalyptic wasteland that used to be the United States.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@doublecheese Most are being sent to camps at the border, where the living conditions are horrible.  Many others die.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@WonkeyPotay ... because you and d-cheese are ignorant imbeciles?

  1. MYTH -- Today's immigrants are different than those of 100 years ago.

    The percentage of the U.S. population that is foreign-born now stands at 11.5%; in the early 20th century it was approximately 15%. Similar to accusations about today's immigrants, those of 100 years ago initially often settled in mono-ethnic neighborhoods, spoke their native languages, and built up newspapers and businesses that catered to their fellow émigrés. They also experienced the same types of discrimination that today's immigrants face, and integrated within American culture at a similar rate. If we view history objectively, we remember that every new wave of immigrants has been met with suspicion and doubt and yet, ultimately, every past wave of immigrants has been vindicated and saluted.

    (Source: Census Data:
    http://www.census.gov/prod/2002pubs/censr-4.pdf)


holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @doublecheese

We whipped their ass fair and square.  The French, not so successful in INdo China.  The Brits in Rhodesia - they got slaughtered and kicked out.  The Norse in England - out.  The Spanish in the Philippines - out.  The Israelis in the ME, it's still in question.  The Ottomans in Europe - out.  The Canucks in Canuck land - in to stay.  The Spanish in Mexico - seems to have worked.

In other words, you moron, no region on this planet, including the INdians kicking each other's territorial asses and slaughtering far more of each other than the Europeans did, have NOT experienced conquering tribes who whipped the weak and taken over.  Why are wars fought, fool?

It's called tribalism and humans are war-like.  So cry me a river.

But like the Texans who were invited to this hot uninhabitable land once we Anglos reached critical mass we rebelled.

I do not think most of the current occupants of this land want to be on the losing side of the next evolution.  So let's not Nancy along, red-lipped wide-eyed and laughingly let in the instrument of our destruction.  Comprende?

Either that or why don't you pick up a club and head into the street.

doublecheese
doublecheese

@DonkeyHotay @doublecheese It's not a lie at all.  Shit, look at a fucking current map today.  The Western US is STILL almost completely uninhabited.  The fact is, almost the entirety of the western half of this continent didn't have anyone there.

bippyizod
bippyizod

@holmantx There is no way in hell you can be real.  Your chest thumping is too over the top and your content is beyond weak.  I highly suspect you are taking the piss out of people here. 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@holmantx ... as the U$A got its ass kicked in Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam ... all of them far weaker, smaller and poorer sovereign nations.


You better practice your Español, since the Reconquista is inevitable -- they outbreed you gringos 3 to 1, except for the Mormons and some old-school Catholics.






mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@doublecheese

I suggest you spend some time educating yourself on the history of the indigenous population, as you clearly know very little about the subject. here's a good start to correct your previous statements:

While it is difficult to determine exactly how many Natives lived in North America before Columbus,estimates range from a low of 2.1 million (Ubelaker 1976) to 7 million people (Russell Thornton) to a high of 18 million (Dobyns 1983).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_American_indigenous_peoples

some scholars claim the 1837-1838 smallpox epidemic was spread by the US Army distributing infected blankets, which I do not agree was the case. they weren't that smart to know. nevertheless it was devastating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1837%E2%80%931838_smallpox_epidemic

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@doublecheese ... "The Western US is STILL almost completely uninhabited."


So it's no big deal if the Mexicans -- or Indians -- take it back, since that was your pathetic excuse in the first place, eh loser?


Or should they wait until some pandemic kills off a portion of the few isolated population centers?


Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

Immigrants' children speak excellent English.  Next.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @holmantx

You sound like the Imperial Japanese rolling over the Marines.

Bring it on Mothefucker.

doublecheese
doublecheese

@mavdog @doublecheese It was clearly not the case.  Smallpox can't be spread by blankets.  


But what is the point?  That smallpox didn't wipe most of them out?  It clearly did.  Besides that, most of them didn't live in the Western US which is the subject of "manifest destiny".

dingo
dingo

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz 

Child immigrants arriving without parents are co-opted into criminal gangs.


So you are saying 'nothing to see here' when there is a full assault on the sovereignty of this nation?


Thanks for sharing your own little world with us.


Say goodbye to immigration reform.

You can thank the grim totalitarian in DC for this humanitarian crisis.

bippyizod
bippyizod

@doublecheese What did we win?  America got more than its ass kicked in Iraq.  We lost on multiple levels.  And we continue to lose and continue to pay. And to make it more embarrassing we outnumbered the Iraqi's. 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@doublecheese ... 3000+ hapless U$ dupes died meaningless deaths for the Criminal Bu$h Mob's lies.


Epic Fail!



Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@dingo  Uh huh.  Armed immigrant two year-olds are sweeping across the United States pillaging, raping and torching as they lay waste to the land.

doublecheese
doublecheese

@mavdog @doublecheese From that very article:  "

Biological Warfare was Ineffective[edit]

While no existing evidence supports that this attempt,[4][5] was successful, a preponderance of documented evidence suggests that the smallpox among some natives preceded the exchange, was contracted from a different source, and the attempt to "inoculate" the recipients, Turtle's Heart and Mamaltee,[6] was unsuccessful."


It just didn't happen.  There's no evidence that a single Native American ever contracted smallpox from a blanket.


http://quod.lib.umich.edu/p/plag/5240451.0001.009/--did-the-us-army-distribute-smallpox-blankets-to-indians?rgn=main;view=fulltext


This is a good read for anyone who's still buying into Ward Churchill's fabrications.

mjdubb0811
mjdubb0811

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz There's bigger picture that your not seeing. I wouldn't be surprized in a couple of years or less when stuff starts happening because we allowed other countries to send their children here not knowing their background. This migrant situation seems harmless on the surface but underneath it could very well be sleeper cells of terrorist coming into this country as teenagers with unknown agenda's.

dingo
dingo

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz 

Your argument is that only two year olds are coming across?

Your own little world


Have you started to hear the voices yet?

doublecheese
doublecheese

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz Right.  Two year-olds are coming across the border without their parents.  Idiot.  Most of the unaccompanied kids are teenagers.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

Right-wing jingoists scared to death of poor women and children from Honduras and Guatemala.

bippyizod
bippyizod

@doublecheese Would love to except that US government continues to lie about it.  Somewhere close to a million.  And only about 3 percent of them were close to being "evil doers".  This is why we currently have such high rates of suicide and PTSD.  Eventually guilt and reality sets in with these poor guys and they have to deal with what they did. 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@doublecheese ... only an idiot like you would ignore the lessons of Vietnam -- body counts don't mean shit, sucker.



mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@doublecheese 

Churchill is speaking about the Smallpox epidemic of 1837-1838, not about Amherst and Fort Pitt....

doublecheese
doublecheese

@mavdog @doublecheese Which according to your own reference, was not a case of smallpox being spread by blankets.  Seriously, there's no evidence that it ever happened.

Hot.Sauce
Hot.Sauce

There was nothing politically correct about the Vietnam conflict. The USA lied, tortured, raped and murdered civilians, illegally bombed Cambodia, used napalm and agent orange on villages, and still lost.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@doublecheese ... so Al Qaeda kicked the U$A's ass on 9.11 ... based on body count being 150 to 1 in their favor, eh numbnuts?



mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@doublecheese 

This event is best known for the documented use of biological warfare when the British Army at Fort Pitt infected the besieging Native Americans with smallpox using blankets that had been exposed to the virus, killing much of their population for many years, even after the war ended.

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@Hot.Sauce War's a bitch.  Name one that wasn't.  


Is this how you  attempt to influence people?  I didn't say Vietnam was politically correct.  We could not win that war because of political correctness. Two different things.




doublecheese
doublecheese

@mavdog @doublecheese Yes, it is known for that.  It's also known that this attempt at biological warfare was most likely completely ineffective.  Again...from that same Wikipedia article:  


Biological Warfare was Ineffective[edit]

While no existing evidence supports that this attempt,[4][5] was successful, a preponderance of documented evidence suggests that the smallpox among some natives preceded the exchange, was contracted from a different source, and the attempt to "inoculate" the recipients, Turtle's Heart and Mamaltee,[6] was unsuccessful.




mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@doublecheese 

the smallpox exposure had devastating results. as for smallpox not being able to spead via blankets,

"Ann F. Ramenofsky, Vectors of Death: The Archaeology of European Contact (Albuquerque, NM: University of New Mexico Press, 1987):

Among Class I agents, Variola major holds a unique position. Although the virus is most frequently transmitted through droplet infection, it can survive for a number of years outside human hosts in a dried state (Downie 1967; Upham 1986). As a consequence, Variola major can be transmitted through contaminated articles such as clothing or blankets (Dixon 1962).

Amherst's own letters detail the use of smallpox exposure:

http://academic.udayton.edu/health/syllabi/Bioterrorism/00intro02.htm

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