Dallas ISD Is One of the Most Segregated School Districts in the Country

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The Supreme Court's landmark school-desegregation decision in Brown v. Board of Education, handed down 60 years ago this week, had little immediate impact on Dallas ISD. Schools remained officially segregated for years and de facto segregated for decades, as district officials slow-walked integration and white families fled to the suburbs. It wasn't until 2003 that U.S. District Judge Barefoot Sanders declared DISD officially desegregated.

Good feelings all around. But zoom out a tad, fast-forward a decade and the gains that were made in DISD -- and pretty much everywhere else in the country -- are eroding, according to an examination of Brown's legacy released this week by researchers with UCLA's Civil Rights Project.

One important measure the researchers use to gauge integration is minority exposure to white students, calculated based on the average racial composition of individual campuses. DISD ranks dead last, at least among the 50 largest urban school districts that have been on federal desegregation plans.

In 2011, black exposure to whites was 3.1 percent, while Latino exposure to whites was 3.9 percent, both numbers having dropped significantly over the preceding decade as DISD's white population dropped by more than a third, from 7.2 percent to 4.7 percent.

It's not hard to see what's happening. There's been a white exodus from DISD, leaving the black and Hispanic students that remain in schools with an increasing concentration of minorities. This is bad news for those kids, because with racial segregation comes economic segregation, both of which correspond with poor educational outcomes.

Integration's downward trend in DISD mirrors what's been happening elsewhere in Texas and the rest of the country. The researchers report that, after a quarter century of post-Brown gains, there's been considerable backsliding.

Take the South (including Texas), where the Brown decision was aimed and had its most striking effect. The percentage of black students in majority white schools climbed from 0 in 1954 to 44 percent at the end of the 1980s, then declined steadily over the next two decades. In 2011, the figure was 23.2 percent.

During the same time, the number of black students attending hyper-segregated schools (those with a 90 percent minority population) jumped from 24 percent in 1988 to 34.2 percent in 2011.

Southern Latinos are even more likely than blacks to attend hyper-segregated schools (41.5 percent).

Texas fares worse than average on these measures. Only 13.1 percent of the state's black students and 11 percent of Latinos go to majority-white schools, while 42.7 percent of black students and 53.5 percent of Latinos attend hyper-segregated schools.

Texas isn't quite the most segregated state in the country (New York's more segregated for blacks, California for Latinos), but it's near the bottom.

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INSULTEDMINORITY
INSULTEDMINORITY

Well clearly this writer needs to get out of his desk and visit the schools in Dallas like Hillcrest High School, WT White, or Thomas Jefferson.  From these schools just park outside in the morning and afternoon and see that these are a few of the top DISD schools and 98% of the kids attending these schools are "MINORITIES".  These 98% MINORITIES make up Blacks and Hispanics.  The true minority here is the white child.  Besides it's all in matter of an individual making it happen for themselves.


#1. These minority kids attending these top DISD school don't live in those immediate neighborhoods, yet they attend some of the top schools in Dallas.

#2.  These minority kids are well supported by the local residents, in form of very expensive property taxes and other donations given to the schools via community work. These minority school children are given ample programs and tools to be successful...it's theirs for the taking

#3. The local residents who do send their schools are the same middle class families who worked their way up to success and SET THE EXAMPLE for their kids to do the same.  Their kids attend those schools as mentioned above, and have great success because they are disciplined in their approach and value education.  These local residents tend to be white families and they make up less than 2 or 3% of the student body.  Yet those kids are excelling and taking advantage of every opportunity provided by the school and local community. 

#4. The other minority kids are not coming from family structures that emphasize importance in education.  Please stop blaming racism and whites and rich people for the failures of others.  Success comes because each individual needs to seek out their success.  Many people in Dallas are willing to help and give kids a shot at success.  They need to work for it like the rest of us.  Are you proposing that Blacks and Hispanics be given a slot to a top school because of their color regardless if they can succeed?  How insulting to that student to get an opportunity just because of their color.  As a minority myself, I'd rather be given an opportunity because of my MERIT and MY ABILITY TO PERFORM....

#5. These kids in DISD are all given all the same opportunities White, Black, Mexican, Asian and it's up to the kids and their parents to take advantage of what is being offered.  Meaning in life it's ultimately up to each individual to decide to contribute to society and take advantage of the investment all of us TAX PAYERS are contributing to their education.


I would recommend to Dallas Times, if your going to employ reporters who believe they have a passion for writing, at a minimum please provide factual and realistic story line.  Don't gloss over someone's story to take up space, we have enough people in this world taking up space and not contributing to society.


Take the time to write about the opportunities available to kids to succeed...help them understand what program are available, highlight kids that are making it, set examples...stop with this needless waste of airspace.  It's not helping your cause.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas

Secretary of Education, Chicagoan and F.O.B., Arne Duncan has launched a federal investigation to determine why black and Latino children are so unsuccessful in school and at getting jobs. 


Most people with kids in DISD, and especially those who have moved out of Dallas because of the schools, could tell him and save him - and taxpayers - millions of dollars.

Why would ANY white, black Latino, or Asian parents want their children in a failing school system if they have other options?  (Of course, many parents don't care or are too dull to recognize a bad school system. And they're part of the problem. )

It's become tedious constantly going over what's wrong with DISD, and what's wrong with many disengaged black and Latino students who would rather emulate gangsta culture, drugs, and actual gangs than study and get ahead. That's a problem in the classroom, on the playground, and going to and from school!)

Let's stop talking around the problem, and start addressing solutions.  But, exposing minority children to white children is NOT a solution.  It just makes the problem worse. (Hint:  that's why blacks, Latinos, and white HATED forced busing.  It was a disaster all the way around.) 



pak152
pak152

one of the most useless articles I've seen here. the liberal press has been publishing these type of stories for the past couple of weeks.

not real sure what the purpose of the stories are but y'all ain't reporting anything new. 

as people move of the economic ladder they move out to better areas doesn't matter what ethnicity or race they are. 

what I find laughable is that in DISD and plenty of other school districts the whites are in the minority.

Now what i would really like to see is a good objective story comparing public schools to charter schools. right now in NYC the mayor is working to kill charter schools even though those schools are educating the poor.

Rumpunch1
Rumpunch1

Too bad whether the student and/or parent gives 2 shits about their education is not an attribute which is tested in these studies.

MikeWestEast
MikeWestEast

The exodus from Dallas and DISD has been a middle class household with children of all races flight.  Find a family of any race with middle class income and schoolchildren in Dallas this year.  It is very likely that family will not be there within a few years unless the children have finished high school in the interim.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

The main thing I love about this study is it points out the hypocrisy of the race baiters.  In crime statistics, Latinos or Hispanics are either Black or White.  For all other progressive programs, Hispanics are a distinct minority.  To hell with that.  get consistent.  If Hispanic population needs 'exposure to white children', can't they use the Hispanic-White population for that?

And to clarify things for the soon to come screaming banshees of diversity, both of my kids are, or can be, or will be 'classified' as Hispanic-White.

becoolerifyoudid
becoolerifyoudid

If we tear down I-345 though that will fix everything right?

TexMarine
TexMarine

i'm pretty sure that a potential "poor educational outcome" is the real cause for whites to "flee" the DISD than the effect of whites fleeing DISD.  you may have to consider the declining birthrates of whites as a factor; if hipsters don't breed, they can't flee DISD. the suburbanites are already in frisco or home schooling, so this isn't your fathers white flight of the 60's and 70's.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

Note that the two states that are worse on segregation are the most liberal big states, and then explain to me why even more liberal policies are the solution.

P1Gunter
P1Gunter

They needed a study for this? Unless you're in Lakewood or your kid gets into a magnet school white people don't send their kids to DISD. It's been that way for 30 years and has never been a secret.

roo_ster
roo_ster

To segregate, one must have a significant number of dislike components.  DISD has not enough white children to even worry about segregating them.


Re-defining "segregation" as lack of access to white children is perverse is several ways.

knoxharrington
knoxharrington

DISD schools stink by any objective measure.  That is the "key" to understanding this problem.  My 4th grader attends the most racially diverse elementary school in Richardson - I'm happy that he goes to a diverse school that ALSO happens to be a good one.  If it were diverse and terrible I would send him somewhere else.  It isn't racism or "segregation" -  it is bad public schools that force those with the means to do so to either move elsewhere or put their kids in private schools.  Harkening back to the Brown decision misses the point entirely.  I wish liberals could understand that not all "segregation" is because of race - there are other forces at work. Unfortunately, the forces causing the problem are unassailable by the Left because that is a part of their core constituency.  In other words, we can't say it's the poor public education because that points the finger at the teacher's union, the bureaucracy, etc.  It is much easier to blame racism that actually confront reality which is that public schools disserve everyone in the system except teachers and bureaucrats and those who can get out do so for the sake of their children's well-being.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

70% of newborns at Parkland are from illegal immigrants at taxpayer expense. 30 anchor babies a day, seven days a week.  In the 5th year they begin their matriculation, at taxpayer expense, in the various school districts.  $70 million a year for the birthing, even more for the DISD.  It is a tremendous strain on property taxes and I'm not bitching.  However, schooling captures by twice the largest share of property taxation.  

The present situation is a manifestation, a result, of not enforcing existing immigration law.  And given the ICE statistics released last week regarding the number of murderers, rapists, and assorted criminals released back into society instead of being deported just in 2013, the federal government has no intention of enforcing, or regulating, illegal immigration.

Those kids who already speak English do not need further instruction in the basics of that language.  There are plenty of suburban school districts that are not encumbered by teaching English as a second language.


INSULTEDMINORITY
INSULTEDMINORITY

@noblefurrtexas  CHICAGO NEEDS TO STAY IN CHICAGO.  WE IN TEXAS DONT WANT SOCIAL RACIAL AGENDAS NOR DO WE WANT CHICAGO DRIVEN POLITCS.  WERE SERIOUS REVENUE GENERATORS AND WE WORK HARD IN TEXAS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FAMILY. 


WE DON'T WANT OR CARE ABOUT WHAT THE SECRETARY OF EDUCATION FROM CHICAGO HAS TO THINK.  CHICAGO IS CERTAINLY NOT A RISING STAR WHEN IT COMES TO EDUCATION

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@pak152

The stage is being set for midterms and 2016, and the Democrat press corpse, which decides elections, will hammer us with these themes as coverage of Obamacare over-reach is disappeared. The IRS scandal, already treated as "old news", no matter what new facts come to light; Benghazi is already being positioned as the stuff of "Birthers", etc. IOW, repubs cannot win on scandal, fraud and incompetence, because in the national mind, these will not exist.

Some of the themes dems will run on are elements of life that will never go away or be "solved", and are defined strictly by liberals, who have "sole moral authority".

These themes center around Earth's nature (climate) and human nature (inequality, tribalism). Needs that Liberal Dems have the ability to meet and solve (as they have for generations), but can never really be "solved", and that inability will be laid at the feet of Republicans - republican money, republican racism, republican sexism, republican primitivism. Remember, Republicans are "Americas Taliban".

If republicans simply play defense against the brilliant Ayers strategies, they will lose, and our next president will be an old woman, either Clinton or Warren, who will be elected because they are women - the precedent for electing strictly on identity grounds, not achievement or competency, has been set. Biden won't win, because the retard identity is not that popular, regardless of his gravitas and major achievements

And, of course, Koch Brothers. Conservative money: evil, liberal money: pure and good.

That's all we'll hear about from major democrat media from here on in.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Rumpunch

Only "Limbaugh racists" suggest that parenting is a factor, according to a senior writer here.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@RTGolden1  It is my understanding that if Latins are the perp in hate crimes, they are scored as white by the FBI counters.  If they are the victim, they are considered a minority.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@everlastingphelps

I've posted some links from liberal writers starting to ask that same question. Some of what I've read is that one problem lies in the fact that liberal policies never fail, they're just chronically underfunded, no matter how much they're funded, and you know whose fault that is.

I think the problem lies with human nature, which has always been a bane to utopian ideals - that's why utopianists of the past have had to kill so many humans, they simply refuse to adhere to theory at times.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@everlastingphelps

when you can show how the "liberal policies" of New York and California (both of which BTW have recently had Republican Governors...) produced the school segregation outlined in the article let us know...otherwise we'll just chack it up to rhetoric with no basis in fact.

DOisDUMDUM
DOisDUMDUM

@roo_ster  These little criminals just don't have access to enough white kids to bully and rob. 

lebowski300
lebowski300

@roo_ster  By this definition of segregation, aren't the students of DISD being segregated from Japanese and Russian students too?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@holmantx

My son and his wife are in medicine, and were/are in a position to witness first- hand what you're referencing about births to illegals.

What is rarely acknowledged is that these births are more problematic and therefore expensive due to generational health practices, or lack of health practices.

That's one reason stated for this tremendously flawed health-care Bill, someone has to pay for all these people, for life, and after the coming amnesty and resultant new wave of border hopping, the system will be overwhelmed. Simple math. We cannot absorb a quarter of a failing nation's most- needy population.

BTW, I read where the CBO estimates that, even with this huge middle-class tax hike, there will still be about thirty million uninsured. As I recall, the original number cited was in the neighborhood of 15 million, jumping to 45 million if foreign nationals were included.

Kinda looks like we have to destroy the village in order to destroy it. This is progress?

doublecheese
doublecheese

@holmantx  And that's really the biggest reason for being so choosy about where your child goes to school.  It's unfair to the kids without disadvantages to be slowed to the pace of those that have them.  All this bastardized understanding of "equality" ever gets you is a race to the bottom.  We were very careful about where we lived so that our daughter would be able to thrive in a gifted program with equally gifted students, and not dragged down by a class full of students whose completely average IQ scores (average for their community/demographic) are only slightly above mentally retarded.  

oakclifftownie
oakclifftownie

@holmantx So to balance this out White people need to make More babies ?

Well fertile young WHITE people You have your mission Get to Fornicating .

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@TheRuddSki  

However, the mule is laying down at the yoke.  The wagon is too heavy.  And the Left's application of the whip hand may not be sufficient to make him get back up and pull.  Nature is running its course and no amount of name-calling, cattle prod and beating will make that old stubborn, braying fool get back up.  This shit's falling apart in slow motion.

except by getting those fattasses out of the wagon.

Half this country has tuned out.  Well, they are eating and copulating somehow.  Cut off the food, shelter, clothing and the cell phones and force them to turn directly to their fellow citizen for the freebies.  Civil war lite. Knock the smirk off their faces.  Make 'em beg like the beggars they are.  Directly associate the outcome with their . . . "poor choices".

In other words, force them to the tongue of the wagon with the rest of the Borax team.

We can do it the easy way or let nature continue to run its course.

somebody needs an asskicking.  And my ass is sore.


noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas

@TheRuddSki    How dare you suggest parents and teachers should be held accountable for their actions or lack of same in support of the education of these kids. 


Next you'll suggest hard work is necessary to get ahead.  :)

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@holmantx @RTGolden1That is my understanding as well.  There really should be only 3 'categories' of people in crime statistics: Criminals, Victims, and Witnesses.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

that's why utopianists of the past have had to kill so many humans,

do you not understand who would be called a "utopianist" (Fuller, Bacon, More, Thoreau)? just how many "humans" did they kill? I can't think of any...

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@mavdog @everlastingphelpsI would maybe interject that the liberal policy of ignoring established US Immigration law and throwing open the doors to the public weal to anyone who can run, jump or swim their way here might have led to the high concentration of Hispanic students in California schools.

Couple that with the fact that some CA schools see fit to ban the US flag on certain days, so as not to offend those students who feel no loyalty to the nation that has so tenderly opened her arms to them, and one might conclude that liberal policies might have some direct causal relationship to white flight from those schools.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@mavdog @everlastingphelpsapparently, according to the article itself, the current segregation in DISD is caused by white flight, not governmental policies.

I'm fairly certain the 'segregation' (is it really segregation if it is something done out of personal choice and not institutionalized?) in CA and NY results from a similar white flight in those areas.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@TheRuddSki  

Mexican doctors send problem pregnancies to Parkland.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

My daughter is a pediatrician at one of the largest Children's Hospitals in the country. She and I have had several conversations about what she has experienced in her work with expectant parents.

The lower the income of the parents, the less support and instruction they have received as far as the best actions to take during the pregnancy. This is true no matter the race of the parents, where they are from, or what language they speak. It is their economic status that determines the amount of pre-natal care received.

Access to healthcare providors is limited in the inner city neighborhoods they reside in, and with financial constraints they aren't capable of seeking these providors on their own. They are just trying to get by on what money and the limited free time they have.

BTW 30 million ininsured is a 50% reduction from the number of uninsured prior to the ACA.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@doublecheese

I was raised the same way. My parents placed educational above all else. I did the same with my kids, they will do the same with theirs.

Meaning, their children will attend school far, far away from where they attended school(or go private), as the demographics have reversed, and the formerly top schools they attended now suck, and are more dangerous.

Rumpunch1
Rumpunch1

As a fertile Scot-Irish I have done my part. I currently have all 5 of my children in DISD schools (albeit all magnets) We are trying to have another.

I drive a Porsche, therefore the babies versus BMW was never a debate.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@oakclifftownie

Well fertile young WHITE people You have your mission Get to Fornicating

Baby or Bimmer... Hmmmm... We'll take the Bimmer!

This is why the great majority of planned parenthood and abortion facilities are located near neighborhoods populated by what Progressives, in an earlier time, referred to as "undesirables", but not even wholesale elimination of offspring will reverse the demographic tide.

Latinos in America point this out, just as Islamics in Europe do. Activist groups of both persuasions tout this fact loudly and proudly. As the president of Uruguay recently said here, essentially "your time is over". He's right. So is Louis C.K., the payback is gonna be a bitch.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@holmantx

Haven't seen print DO in years, just visit the blog.

The more (white) "racism" there is, the more power and profit there is for racialists. They're like the firefighters who commit arson.

I've been checking vids and info from the "White Privilege Conference" in Madison. Apparently, for some, capitalism is a major cause of racism and other gems. Not that these people are Marxists or anything LOL.

Althouse has some posts about it, as well as the ultra-nazi-conservative sites like Beck's The Blaze and NRO.

http://althouse.blogspot.com/search/label/racial%20politics

The new memes will be sexism ("bossy" is sexist, et.), ageism (the dem gal candidates, like all the others, are a bit long in the tooth), and of course, just like black conservatives are house n*****rs and Toms, conservative women are, well, words that draw oodles of traffic to this site, stepford wives, Palin dumbitches, gender traitors and the like.

The left is so hard to predict!

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@TheRuddSki  

We should have been out of this recession four years ago and the natives are more than a little restless.  Everyone knows it can and will get a lot worse, economy and socially, if we don't let the capitalist horses run a bit.

Liberals are at their best in the minority and out of power.  It's where they are most comfortable, like this alternative newspaper.  These guys and gals' hearts just aren't in it defending government action.  Nary a peep on the NSA, the IRS or myriad oppressive action against the people.  This rag is just going through the motions, stuck on racism as food for thought.  Did you notice the race-bashing in the print side?  They actually dredged up a local play - three white people bitching about racism in white people - for an hour and forty minutes.  Absolute torture and the race-baiting article that described it.  It's an unintended hoot.

These dumbasses are fresh out of charismatics.  And Twister is absolutely scary looking now.

Four more years of their bullshit scares the hell outa them too.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@holmantx

Obama brought out a lot of first-time and/or occasional voters and turned many of them into last-time voters. You can only lie so much.

I doubt Hillary or the Indian gal will inspire them the way a privileged con-man who parlayed skin color, not experience, into a cult following did.

But, 'pubs are going to have to play an offensive game, no mr. Mitt nice-guy - even though attack-dogs like the loathsome Harry Reid will cry about, the problem being if course, they'll have no in-kind support from the major media which is comprised almost entirely of Democrat activist supporters.

Once again, for effect...

http://news.indiana.edu/releases/iu/2014/05/2013-american-journalist-key-findings.pdf

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@noblefurrtexas

Cheating works too.

My ex and I and our friends who were gov't school teachers finally surmised, the job of teachers is to teach the kids manners, proper behavior, how to use an indoor voice, not bully and social stuff like that - the job of parents is to teach reading, writing and arithmetic.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@mavdog  

like a little kid, demanding to get the last word.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

you also don't understand the groups you call "communist" were not "communist" but rather "totalitarianist"?

Communism requires totalitarianism. it can't function any other way because communism goes against human nature.

When a system relies on central control which has created slots for people to fit into, and those people don't for whatever reason co-operate with the roles assigned them, and - as humans are don't to do - strive to operate independently, outside the system, then the central planners have to eliminate them, or the system breaks Down.

That's why we even see the importance if identical clothing common to communism - no class distinction, comrades!

Socialism has the same problems, albeit with soft totalitarianism, I.e The debate is over, the science is settled pronoun cements which are clearly opposite reality.

This is one reason Obama lies so often, it's part of a socialist's job description.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@mavdog He didn't apply the label to them, they shouldered it of their own accord.  They were Marxist/communist rebellions.  The russian revolution, China, Cuba, Vietnam, etc.  They all started with 'communist' ideals, leaning heavily on Marx's utopian delusion.  It is the same with any ideology, be it political, religious, or economic; the more entrenched and powerful it becomes, the less tolerant it is.  The more widespread it becomes, the more fractured it is.  Utopian ideals are a fallacy, just like "one world order" and religion's 'paradise on earth'.  If one all encompassing doctrine becomes dominant, it will fracture and devolve into sectarian strife.

You have succeeded in your goal, however, if your goal was to steer the discussion away from the topic at hand.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

still can't grasp the difference between "utopia" and the word you posted, "utopianist" do you?

you also don't understand the groups you call "communist" were not "communist" but rather "totalitarianist"?

tsk tsk.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

Ok, you successfully trolled me into wasting my time. Maybe if you tire of this capillary bullshit, you can lecture me on my inappropriate use of Subjective,

then we can debate the meaning of "is".

Bet you were real fun at parties.

Marx believed that a truly utopian society/B> must be classless and stateless.

http://people.howstuffworks.com/communism1.htm

The New Communism: Resurrecting the Utopian Delusion

http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/article/new-communism-resurrecting-utopian-delusion

In it, the Utopian Marx rubs shoulders with the realist...

http://www.marxists.org/archive/norman/marx-reality/ch02.htm

http://www.nyu.edu/projects/ollman/docs/vision_of_communism_content.php

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

no, communism is an political/economic model  while utopianism is not.

"gnaw at the capillary". that's funny and an interesting deflection, if you say something wrong it's wrong, it isn't "a capilllary".

The concept of utopian is subjective.

the concept of utopia is subjective, the philosophy of Utopianism is not.

didn't do any study in political theory or philosophy did you?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

No, I am correct, In my opinion, communism us a utopian ideal.

Accept that my opinion does not have to be ratified by someone who simply wants to gnaw at the capillary. The concept of utopian is subjective.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

I consider communists utopianists

well then, what you "consider" is wrong.

I know that it difficult for your ego to accept that you have made an error, but suck it up. you have.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

oh great another capillary argument.

I consider communists utopianists, as do quite a few others. The science is settled, the debate is over.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

ah, failure on your part. Communists are not the same as Utopianists.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

I'm talking commies.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@mavdog @RTGolden1I don't even think it has to do with class.  The problem IS the schools themselves.  People, if they're worth anything at all, don't want to send their kids to crappy schools.  Fix the schools and the families will start to come back.  If you wait for the families to come back before you fix the schools, it aint ever going to happen.  Tear out freeways, build bike paths and walkable districts, community gardens, parks, whatever.  No family is going to willingly move in and put their kids in sub-standard schools.  It is patently wrong to even consider asking families to do so.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@RTGolden1

IMO what we see in these stats is not racial segregation, where people decide to not be by or be in a school with "that race of people", but rather economic segregation.

The middle class doesn't want there kids in a school with lower class students and they relo to the subs, and the upper class just don't snd their kids to public schools (HPISD and SCISD being the exceptions).

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@holmantx

Nearly three-quarters of the 7,000 babies born annually at John Peter Smith Hospital are delivered to the undocumented. The county hospital ranks third among Texas facilities for such births.

FWST 8/22/10

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@holmantx

I know the 70% figure is true, but my son works at a private not-for- profit hospital, which still births majority Latino, which are majority foreign nationals. It's not limited to public hospitals.

Like climate change, nothing can be done about demographic shift at this point. Mobility is the key if changes go in an undesired direction. I personally would never live in Mexico, which is one reason, among many, that I left Texas.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@TheRuddSki  

Snopes says it's true.  You can search Parkland Hospital on that website.  They quote the Dallas Morning News. The numbers are dated because Parkland does not disclose anymore.

John Petersmith Hospital over in Tarrant County doesn't have that problem.

those rednecks won't birth illegals.

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@holmantx

Neither my son or DIA work at Parkland, she doesn't even work in Dallas. According to him, the 70 percent rate of illegal parents is about the same where he works.

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dingo

@TheRuddSki

"Meaning, their children will attend school far, far away from where they attended school."

Or the parents 'borrow' the grandparents' address to apply for kids' admission into a magnet school and then relocate inward if and only if they gain admission.

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@holmantx

Dude, have you ever thought of becoming an iconic songwriter?

holmantx
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@TheRuddSki  

As I've often posed, Will you still need me, will you still feed me when I'm 64?

you can quote me without attribution.

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