With Help from a New App, SMU Students Again Reject LGBT Senate Seat

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For the second time in three weeks, the SMU student body has shot down a proposal to add an LGBT student senate seat.

Students voted on the measure on Wednesday and Thursday -- a re-vote after an initial attempt fell a few hundred votes shy of the two-thirds majority required to pass.

Student body president Ramon Trespalacios announced the results in an email blast to the student body on Thursday evening:

Hello Mustangs,

Thank you all who voted for the referendum in the past two days. The results were 1,107 votes in favor and 1,025 against. Therefore, the referendum failed as it needed 2/3 of the votes in favor in order to pass.

Once again, I appreciate the time you took to vote and be an active citizen of this community. I'd like to remind all students that Student Senate is here to support every one of you. If there is an issue that you'd like to see addressed you can contact me or any other member of the Senate.

Pony Up,

Ramon Trespalacios

See also: SMU Students Aren't Quite Ready For Increased LGBT Representation

Had the measure been approved, the LGBT community would have joined other campus minorities (e.g. African Americans, Asian Americans, graduate students) with a designated student representative.

LGBT advocates on campus had hoped that putting the measure on its own ballot, rather than on the general election ballot, would boost its chance of passage, but the plan backfired.

Turnout for the special election (2.132) was actually greater than in the general election (2,060). Support for the LGBT senate seat dropped from 59 percent to 52 percent. SMU's Daily Campus credits the surge of no votes to an app:

A new social media app on campus, Yik Yak, may have played a big role in garnering opposition turnout against the proposed referendum. Many posts were made on the anonymous social media site that urged students to vote against the referendum that took place Wednesday and Thursday.

"I would like to thank Yik Yak for single handedly getting the LGBT seat to fail," read one anonymous post on the app following the announcement of the results. "I don't think any of us would have known to vote without it."

"It definitely influenced my vote," sophomore Erik Beresford said. "I didn't even know there was a re-vote or when to vote without getting info from Yik Yak."

Yik Yak is an anonymous messaging app that allows users to pay a small fee to share messages with other nearby users. It was developed by college kids for college kids, primarily, according to TechCrunch, as a means of sharing gripes.

There are some signs that SMU is warming to the LGBT community. The student senate voted overwhelmingly to put the LGBT seat on the ballot -- something they have refused to do in the past -- and advocates say the school's administration has been fairly progressive. The student body, on the other hand, just isn't quite ready to make the leap.

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juanmayeaux
juanmayeaux

Do the Hitler Youth have a Senate Seat?

tsacreman
tsacreman

Tremendously disappointing. SMU likes to style itself as an Ivy League of the south and I have a tremendous amount of respect for the institution. But this is so provincial.

And the comments here paint Dallas as a backwards cess pool undeserving of its place on the global stage. Congratulations everyone. I look forward to the day when your children google this nonsense and know from what good, moral stock they descend.

PlanoDave
PlanoDave

Do LGBT's make up, statistically, the same or similar percentage of the student body as the other groups with special seats?  If they do, it seems fair for them to get the same treatment.  If not, it seems like the student body made the correct decision.


Frankly, based on my experience at SMU, I would be surprised if there are more black students than there are LGBT students.

P1Gunter
P1Gunter

Maybe I missed it in the article, don't think I did, but how LGBT status be confirmed if this had passed? I mean we can all spot a tranny but how do you prove you're a lesbian, gay, or bi? A black guy is obvious, an Asian is obvious, but LGBT is not.

thebelltollsfu
thebelltollsfu

I'm so shocked by these comments. Not because of what they are saying, but on how they now have internet access in trailer parks. Do you guys pay extra for that or something? How can you even see a key board with those white sheets on your head? Doesn't the tip of the hood knock over the monitor when you look down? 

joseph1552
joseph1552

Oh no, the LGBTABCDE's tried to force another element of their agenda down our throats, and it got turned down. Boo hoo. Good for the SMU student body. This was an obvious attempt by the LGBTABCDE's  to minimize turnout and get their desired outcome.  Didn't work. Pony Up!

brad364
brad364

Does anyone else see anything absurd about all of this? Everyone wants to be treated equally and fairly so we unfairly give special treatment to certain groups to make things fair and equal.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

How was the special vote broadcast to the student body?  From at least one of the Yik Yak posts, it was not a generally well-known item.  If the special vote was disseminated selectively to 'boost its chance of passage', then this is a fitting end for it. One thing that is more detrimental to society than open bigotry is deceptive democracy.

Are LGBT issues not given consideration in the student Senate as things stand now?  What are the grievances that lead one to think SMU needs to grant a special privilege seat to LGBT? Hint: Just because 'other campus minorities' have a seat, is not justification for this group, or any other group, say Irish-American Hindu students from Wyoming, to have a special seat.  The goal of freedom and equality is not to create distinctions between people, rather to minimize differences.

The right to marry, as Jack said below, is a better fight.  That push is not asking for people to make an exception for them, just to give them the same right as everyone else, minimizing a difference.

shawn4848
shawn4848

GOOD FOR SMU !!!!! bout time we stand up and say NO MORE FUDGE PACKERS.... All their stupid parades and coming out mess...STAY IN and or just go away totally. 

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

In the not too distant future the SMU Student Senate will have one seat for every student on campus.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

Are there specially-designated seats on the senate now? Woman seat? woman-of-color seat? Republican seat?

If not, the whole premise is silly. If there are "special seats", then there is a legitimate beef.

If this is the first "special " seat created, then where does it end?

Steeve
Steeve

This is kickass.   Fuck off, "LGBT Nation."  Fucking bullies.

SCamp2
SCamp2

I don't see anything in this that says SMU Students are against an LGBT in the Senate. An LGBT can run for any seat, just not a specific seat reserved for them.

CraigT42
CraigT42

It would be interesting to see what was posted on the social media. 


Was it, Dont forget to go vote on the referendum for an LGBT seat on the senate?


Or was it Get out there and vote before they give the homos a seat!

Threeboys
Threeboys

I am curious what "needs" the LGBT community at SMU are not being met nor cannot be met by someone not in that community?

becoolerifyoudid
becoolerifyoudid

Did they give a seat on the student senate to Hookers Killed by Craig James?

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@juanmayeaux

Why, do you think there should be a seat for Hitler Youth?

UPrenter
UPrenter

@tsacreman  SMU is not even close to an "Ivy League of the South".  The only "Ivy League" in the South is Duke. Going on admission rates and student body quality, SMU isn't even in the same league as schools like Rice and Washington U (St. Louis).  SMU is a safety school for rejects from the second tier.

tsacreman
tsacreman

@PlanoDave  You would be hard pressed to get an accurate census. Many students would prefer not to self-identify as a minority which is clearly the target of so much animosity on campus. But size isn't the point here, as demonstrated by the very existence of minority seats. It's need. And if you need evidence of need, just scroll down through these comments.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@P1Gunter

As is the case with Bradley Manning declaring himself a woman named Chelsea, you are what you say you are, regardless of your body parts, or whether they've been lopped-off or whatever.

I've noticed that the moment penised male Bradley declared himself a woman, mainstream media immediately complied, though some conservative outlets referred to him, I mean penised-her as Bradley and as a man, I guess because he technically is, though he, I mean she declares she, or he still has a penis.

Confusing, I know. I'm not sure who he bunks with in the slammer, since the government I think still recognizes penises as a male appendage it's probably with some very lucky lifer.

Point is, in the near future, if a couple wants a boy baby, and the fetus doesn't co- operate and emerges from the cocoon with a vagina, they can declare the baby a boy regardless, without any surgery or inconvenience.

Oh, and by the way, I am a harbor seal. A male harbor seal, and incidentally, the most intelligent, capable and handsome male harbor seal in history.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@brad364

That's why, in spite of my socially liberal beliefs, I just *can't* support any of the political issues the sexually deviant community brings forward.  It's never about equality... or inequality.  It's always about their desire to be treated as victims.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@RTGolden1

there was publicity about the vote, there were news stories in the student newspaper as well as the DMN, not to mention others who picked up theses two and republished

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@tpfnap

How about a seat for non-students? Considering that SMU may produce one or more folks with influence in the public and private sectors, shouldn't potential employees or constituents have a seat at the table?

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

yes, there are over a dozen specially-designated seats in the senate now.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@CraigT42

The comment styles covered the whole spectrum.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Threeboys

They need a "Seat". Apparently, one cannot properly represent certain interests without a "Seat". And if every other identity group has one, then no-one should be denied.

Even if these "Seats" afford no extra power or privilege or any tangible use (assuming no extra padding, etc), their mere existence demands an established protocol of Seat-based equality.

These kids, after all, are being prepared for the Real World, and may some day enter government or academia, and get paid handsomely to resolve pointless issues with voluminous solutions - without proper training, who knows what could happen?

tsacreman
tsacreman

@UPrenter Only said that the school likes to think of itself as such. It's a good university (deserving more credit than you give) making big strides. But these actions, and the response it's received, put the school right back in the 20th Century.

Goober-Patrol
Goober-Patrol

@TheRuddSki Hey, are you about 95 years old?  Did you gather this information from the Globe?  You sound like a damaged dildo, like one without any balls.  Do you eat from the same turd troth as roosterfap?  A seal?  WTF?  Maybe you mean an Easter Seal!

tsacreman
tsacreman

@bvckvs No one with socially liberal beliefs uses the term 'sexually deviant.' Just so you know, liberal doesn't mean what you think it does.

lebowski300
lebowski300

"sexually deviant community"? WTF? I hope hard driving pipe hitting member of the "racially deviant community" visits you soon.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@bvckvs

So, you can't support them because they, in fact, have been and to an extent still are victims of society's prejudice.

What you are saying is unless queers can change history, you can't support their movements for equality, because they cite history which they can't change

So, we know where you stand, and can we assume you are against any initiative connected to equality for blacks, or native Americans, or anyone who has at some point been victimized.

Well, considering the number of times over the years you have claimed victimhood - of evangelicals, republicans, Ruddski, women, your professors, DISD, the websites who have banned you (have I left anyone out?), I'd say that you, Sanders Kaufmann, deserve sympathy or support from absolutely no-one for absolutely anything.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

Ok then, they have a legitimate concern, and my guess is that in due time, they will get that Seat.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@mavdog  Like PlanoDave, Ruddski failed to read the article.... along with the usual suspects who gave them likes.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Goober-Patrol

No estoy seguro qué idioma hablas. ¿Puede hablar harbor seal?

tsacreman
tsacreman

@bvckvs Again, if you think of LGBT people as perverts, you are not liberally-minded.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@tsacreman @bvckvs

As I tell angry, emotional children all the time - use your words.  In this case, "Sexual Deviant" is the proper wording.

Saying "LGBTQ" or some such is just a coping mechanism that perverts use to avoid facing the truth.
Use your words.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@lebowski300

I don't get it - what does race have to do with this?  This is about sexual deviants wanting special treatment - not racism.

PlanoDave
PlanoDave

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz We read the article, we just didn't draw the same conclusions you did.  That makes us wrong and bad, though, doesn't it?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Myrna

You're right, I missed the sentence that answered my question, hence my "if this then - if that" position.

And mavdog, without any fanfare or snark, simply provided the information I overlooked.

The important thing is, those who accuse me of homophobia will, once again, be confused by my position.

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