SMU Students Aren't Quite Ready For Increased LGBT Representation

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Two years ago, SMU finally climbed off the Princeton Review's list of the country's most "LGBT-unfriendly" schools. The news was welcomed by administrators, who have worked hard to shed the university's homophobic image, but it hardly meant that The Hilltop had suddenly become a bastion of progressive inclusiveness.

Case in point: The student body on Thursday voted down a measure that would have added a permanent LGBT seat to the student senate, much like the seats already set aside for African American, Asian and transfer students.

See also: SMU Not Happy About Landing on Princeton Review's "LGBT Unfriendly Schools" List. Again.

The proposal, which had already been approved by the student senate, needed a two-thirds vote to pass; it received only 59 percent. A proposal to add a designated seat for graduated students, which was also on the ballot, passed easily.

To a certain degree, the fact that there was even a vote represents progress, says Shelbi Smith, co-president of Spectrum, SMU's LGBT student group. Previous attempts to add the seat (there have been at least a couple over the past decade) have been shot down in the senate. This time around, with the support of student body president Ramon Trespalacios and VP Jaywin Malhi, it passed.

Still, the outcome is discouraging for LGBT advocates, doubly so because, according to Smith, it is a "pretty accurate representation of our campus culture." One need only examine the stalls of the nearest men's restroom to find evidence of lingering homophobia. Smith referenced an recent incident in which a male friend was harassed on campus by a group of SMU bros, who taunted him with shouts of "faggot."

Not that this has derailed the push for greater representation for gay and transgender students. Spectrum is pushing to get 1,100 students (i.e. 10 percent of the student body) to sign petition to have a revote.

The initial plan was to schedule it for next week's student senate runoff, but backers decided it would be more strategic to have the measure on its own ballot, the hope being that that those with a vested interest -- the LGBT community and its allies -- will show up while opponents will not.

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Catbird
Catbird

I recently read an article saying that there is no "gay" gene - or straight gene for that matter.


Other than gender, human beings are born sexually neutral and learn their sexuality from their families of origin. The notion that we have of "gay" and "straight" originated about 150 years ago.


What if people are really not "born that way" but learn their sexuality from their culture...interesting thought isn't it.

JackJett
JackJett

@joemygod


"When major national Christian groups with millions of followers call for boycotts, that is a righteous use of the free market in order to preserve morality, marriage, family, and the American way. But if a gay keyboard activist tweets a call for a boycott, THAT is homofascist intimidation, intolerance, bullying, a stifling of religious liberty, and an attempt to deny the freedom of speech. And don't you forget it."!……


roo_ster
roo_ster

"Worthless out of touch student gov't weenies saved from marginally less worthless state of being."

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

rich people problems.  Let them solve it.

JackJett
JackJett

The fact that SMU is home to the G.W. Bush library speaks volumes.Volumes of what is for each to decide.

The only seat they might be interested in is one held by the likes of Larry Craig and his wide stancers.These folks can be seen strolling the campus or yelling epitaphs like “faggot” from the side lines.

Thankfully for every Homophobe there is a Homosupremicist. So for every queer, there is a cocksucking breeder. And so on and so on and scoobie doobie do yall!

Oooh Shah Shah!……


TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

SMU's queer community does have an ace up the sleeve - the list of SMU graduates is and will be public record.

If SMU as an institution continues it's perceived hostility to queers, then those graduates are susceptible to blacklisting in the business community unless those graduates publicly embrace whatever political agenda the queer community determines as priority at any given time, and/or condemns SMU's dis-satisfactory compliance if they continue on the present hostile path.

Good luck getting any meaningful employment if you don't comply.

As ugly as people see the McCarthy era, many Communists were purged. So, the tactic does have a track record of success, as we've seen with Brendan Eich - who, while holding the same basic views concerning queer marriage as Presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, and future president Hillary Clinton at the time he committed the act which led to his downfall today - has not renounced his wrongful personal beliefs.

Of course, Eich could have taken the high moral road as the aforementioned liberal icons and lied for political/personal expediency, but he chose to harm others by refusing to relinquish his personal beliefs. His collapse could have been avoided had he simply feigned compliance.

So, SMU grads, Catholics and others who adhere to the wrong beliefs - be forewarned, you will be outed, you will be purged.

pak152
pak152

so can a lesbian really represent the interests of gay man? or bisexual or  transgendered male, or a transgendered female or any of the other numerous types out there? why not just put a place on the board for each of the types to ensure equal representation

Americano
Americano

Why don't the students just go to class and learn stuff?

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

Man, back in '83 to '87, when I was passing my time at SMU, living in Cockrell, then the Sig Ep house, and on to an apartment on Asbury, I remember quite a few 'mos. We were everywhere. Including in Cockrell, the Sig Ep house (and pretty much every other house) and my old apartment on Asbury. I had some really nice times.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

SMU, where they prefer the non-straight students to just stay in the closet where they won't be seen or heard...

wcvemail
wcvemail

I'll leave it up to the chorus to add their wisdom, but this piece is ludicrous: "Smith referenced an recent incident in which a male friend was harassed on campus by a group of SMU bros, who taunted him with shouts of "faggot." "

Really?! REALLY?! Some SMU bros in their pack mentality called a guy a faggot? One guy? What next, sun rises in the east? That's Smith's evidence of widespread under-representation of the LGBT community at SMU? Did Smith say it in high dudgeon, with trembling lip?

That group needs a better spokesperson.


TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@catbird

I would think most animals are born with the urge to procreate embedded somewhere in their DNA. One would think those would constitute a majority, otherwise Darwin. Hence the term "deviancy", which isn't necessarily a pejorative.

I don't think you could raise a child born to be heterosexual to be homosexual any more than you could do the reverse.

However, the existence of "Mom Jeans" has been scientifically proven.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@JackJett

Boycott is a bit different than demanding an employee step down because of political or religious views. It's akin to purging.

When they install a CEO with a firm commitment to GM, should Catholic employees worry?

If you voted for Obama's first term, you're a hypocrite, BTW.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@RTGolden

Are you suggesting they'll be able to do that without our input?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@JackJett

As the blog's Gay Representative, I assume you approved of the destruction of Mozilla's CEO for holding the wrong views regarding gay marriage.

If so, I certainly hope you're not posting here with a computer using Intel processors, that would be Hypocritical would it not, considering that sixty percent of Intel employees contributed just as Brendan Eich did.

Btw, you mention Bush - was that a sly way of reminding us that the Iraq Parlimentary elections are later this month?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Americano

They are learning the lessons of attaining and applying power, which comes in handy if and when graduates move up the political or professional ladder - the lines of which are becoming increasingly blurred.

sweedishbeaches
sweedishbeaches

@wcvemail  I'm curious, were you ever a student at SMU? If so, you clearly spent no time there. 

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@ruddski

"The destruction of [Brendan Eich]"

Are you joking? "The destruction"??? Horror of horrors, the postings and the tweets just destroyed him! How can he even bring himself to get out of bed each morning?

Eich couldn't stand the controversy and he ran away as fast as he could. A person who has actual strength in their beliefs would have stood his ground. Eich, eh, not so much.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@bvckvs

It's fine if you want to slur the queer community, you're not likely in any position of importance or influence.

But, try and keep up with modern standards, so we'll know who the hell you're talking about.

The proper acronym for the queer community has now been set by Mort Zuckerberg, and Facebook, in the future, please apply this standard:

AAABCCCCCCCCCCFFGGGGGIMMNNNOPTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT Community.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@bvckvs

WTF?

From the article there was a vote by the student body with 1,217 “yes” votes and 843 “no” votes, a plurality but not the 2/3 requred for passage. Not too sure how that could be seen as "subverting the process" but then...

oh, maybe you are referring to the Senate itself, where it seems there are currently 11 seats designated for ethnic groups or for the specific study programs such as "Dedman", "Meadows", "Lyle" or "Simmons".

or maybe my humorous anecdote was right on target..

wcvemail
wcvemail

@sweedishbeaches  
No, I went to a public U, both times. I'm curious, why does past attendance matter? And it's contradictory and illogical to say "If so, you clearly spent no time there" because as a student, one must have spent SOME time there, ipso facto.

Here's the remedial version for you:
Smith manages to trivialize and down-size the real issue of under-representation by relating a single anecdote, without any claim of police or other authority intervention to the incident, that could have happened on any campus to any person, whether straight or not, because of the pack mentality of hormonally charged youth. In other words, that's weak tea as persuasive, educational advocacy of LGBT representation on the council, which is what an effective spokesperson should be presenting.

Does that help? Or does it just inspire higher and similarly misplaced dudgeon in you?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

Please provide examples.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

As I stated, in reading a lot on the subject, the suggestion that his resignation was entirely voluntary is unique to you. I'm sure someone, somewhere agrees with you.

Now, maybe he pussied out and ran away from the fascists, as you suggest. Maybe the board fought to keep such a genius, pivotal techie on board, but not even Mozillas blog suggests anything of the sort.

The end result is the same, the fascists win. Unfortunately, that win comes at a cost to gay people.

I assume you've read about the blowback from prominent gays precisely because of that.

Just another warning to Americans, if you do not embrace what the liberal fascists insist you embrace, they will come for you. That's what fascists do.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

The totalitarian left supports the free exchange of ideas so they can ferret out the enemies of their ideals - and seek to destroy them.

not to be confused with the totalitarian right, who prefer to not have any free exchange of ideas at all, and those who would violate this absolute get blacklisted or perhaps removed.

to act like the intolerance exists on only one side of the political sprectrum is dishonest at the least.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

"I have to admit that your assumption that this was solely Eich's choice is quite a unique assumption."

He quit. that's as clear as it gets.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@roo_ster

To paraphrase Mozilla, "we support inclusiveness and the free exchange of ideas, which is why the web is so important."

The totalitarian left supports the free exchange of ideas so they can ferret out the enemies of their ideals - and seek to destroy them.

Gays, blacks, feminists - all people the totalitarian left uses to further their ideals, which can be summed up neatly as power, will be quite surprised when and if that totalitarian left turns on them.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

Cupid.com was apparently the proverbial straw. Anhyhoo, that's irrelevant at this point.

I've been doing quite a bit of reading on this issue - as you know, fascism and totalitarianism are a particular bug up my proverbial butt - as such, I have to admit that your assumption that this was solely Eich's choice is quite a unique assumption.

Either way, it's a bad precedent to set. I suppose the next CEO will be pro GM, so Catholic employees had best watch out.

Your last paragraph, I agree with entirely.

Now, Bill Maher declared this "The Gay Mafia.... You will be whacked"

I disagree, this is liberal fascism - GM is just a tool to the ends of these natural totalitarians.

When you hear "we need to have a national conversation", watch out. Obviously, if you express the wrong views, you put yourself in jeapordy.

When you hear the term "the debate is over", that's the totalitarian speaking, it means "shut up".

roo_ster
roo_ster

@mavdog @TheRuddSki 

Mozilla's board, the one that approved making him CEO, crumbled and did not support Eich when the gaystapo got the ball rolling.  His resignation was as voluntary as the usual politically charged resignation.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki

If it were just "one dating site" (which it wasn't) that would show Eich to be even weaker than originally suggested.

Aren't you "making a pretty wild assumption" Eich didn't pack up and leave on his own choice?

We as a society are moving to a point where the free discussion of ideas and philosophies are being curtailed by what is put forth as the "right" way of thinking. It is a dangerous path that is limiting our ability to honestly trade ideas, which will harm us in the long term. Individuals should have the ability to voice themselves...unless that voice is to incite hatred or violence against others.

which of course Eich did not do.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

Actually it was the threatened boycotting of Mozilla by one dating site, not tweets.

And if you think he stepped down of his own free choice while Mozilla immediately "accepted" his resignation, you're making a pretty wild assumption.

But, illogical assumptions aside, it's being reported that this is turning into a Duck Dynasty/Chik-fil-A moment for Mozilla. When even married gays are slamming this blacklisting tactic, they've got a problem.

https://input.mozilla.org/en-US/?selected=7d&date_start=2014-03-28

How do you feel about this sort of targeting/blacklisting of people for their beliefs? Should those in favor dump their Apple and Microsoft products, given the facts I posted?

Do you think this puts the gay political machine in a Positive light?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@alteredjustice

James080 was just being inclusive to by using the phonetic version for dyslexics.

alteredjustice
alteredjustice

@James080 Neek? Seriously? That had better be pronounced "Throat Warbler Mangrove" or you're embarrassing us all.

JSSS
JSSS

@James080 @manpanties @sweedishbeaches  

Nice try, but it's knights that say "ni." Now, I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty-headed animal food trough wiper.  I fart in your general directions. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.  

manpanties
manpanties

@sweedishbeaches  how is the senate put together?  for instance, are there black only spots, or a required number of male/female spots?  

sweedishbeaches
sweedishbeaches

@wcvemail @sweedishbeaches  Because this is an article about LGBT representation at a school you never attended, so you're obviously the authority on all things SMU. Had you gone to school there, you'd likely understand that anecdote is endemic of the school's culture. Glad we've cleared that up. Thanks for babyfeeding that to me. Much appreciated. 

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