Wylie's SWAT Team Now Has an Armored, Mine-Resistant Military SUV [Updated]

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Dallas County's MRAP, which deputies drove here from Fort Hood last fall.
This post has been updated with additional comments from Wylie PD spokeswoman Donna Valdapena.

Wylie is, according to the city's official website, an idyllic place to live. "Why Wylie?" it asks before answering its own question with a series of exclamations: "Historic Downtown!" "Woodbridge Golf Club!" "Community Events!" "Summer Fun!"

What the homepage doesn't mention is that Wylie apparently has a serious enough crime problem to require the use of a "mine-resistant, ambush protected" military vehicle designed for use in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The city inherited the vehicle free of charge from the U.S. government which, with its two protracted foreign wars basically over, has been reducing its vast surplus of military vehicles by giving them away to local police departments.

See also: Dallas County Now Has Its Very Own Bulletproof, "Mine-Protected" Military SUV

Dallas County received one of the $650,000 MRAP's last year to serve warrants. That seemed ridiculous at the time, but Dallas County has a population of 2.5 million and includes a city with enough violent crime that its SWAT team got its own reality show.

But Wylie? Wylie just recently made the transition from humble farming town to booming exurb. Does it really need a vehicle designed to withstand attacks from bomb-wielding insurgents?

Wylie PD spokeswoman Donna Valdapena tells Unfair Park that the city won't use the MRAP often but that there is a need. In one case a couple of years ago involving an active shooter in a residential neighborhood, Plano and McKinney had to bring in their vehicles to allow police to safely approach.

Beyond that, she says, Wylie has a need to protect critical infrastructure like facilities for the North Texas Municipal Water District, the Lake Lavon dam, and an under-development intermodal hub.

"I don't see it being used a whole lot right now," she says. "It's just one of those things that if you needed it, it's there."

That should put Wylie's 44,000 residents' minds at ease.

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catherinekylie
catherinekylie

Wylie's SWAT Team Now Has an Armored, Mine-Resistant

vsawmike
vsawmike

Wow from reading all the comments I see that most of you have no clue what an MRAP is or anything about it. First these vehicles saved many many lives. The armor on these vehicles is far superior to that of the armored Humvees they replaced. Most of these are built on a commercial truck chassis so maintenance and repairs are much easier than you might think. 


Wylie did not get one like in the pic. The one in the pic is a Maxxpro, built on an International 7000 series chassis. The chassis, lower cab floor, dash, hood front end etc were all built and assembled at the Interational plant in Garland. Then it went to Mississippi to have the rest of the armored body bolted on. Then it went to the carolinas for electronic equipment. 


Yes roo_ster they were a good idea. International made over 8000 of these and there were two other manufacturers that made comparable trucks. These trucks were rushed into production to stem the tide of all the IEDs soldiers were seeing in Iraq and Afghanistan.


The armor on these is much thicker than what you would find on a typical APC or armored SWAT truck. Most SWAT trucks have .250"-.500" thick AR500 plate for armor. Even early military APCs only had .375" thick plate. Most SWAT vehicles have .250" or .375" thick plate. Even SWAT vehicles made to go to Iraq only had .500" thick armor. These MRAPS typically have .625"-.750" thick AR508 or milspec armor plate. Much better at stopping armor piercing rounds. 


The vehicle costs almost nothing to operate. It will eventually save someone's life and no doubt each one of these has been shot at overseas and already saved someone.

roo_ster
roo_ster

MRAPs were such a wonderful idea that the Army can't wait to give them away and let someone else pay to maintain them.



ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

"In one case a couple of years ago involving an active shooter in a residential neighborhood, Plano and McKinney had to bring in their vehicles to allow police to safely approach."

OK, I will give them that it may be needed every couple of years.  But what is it in the meantime, a training toy?

RoaminCadillac
RoaminCadillac

I knew there were some mean-ass kids there, but damn...

doublecheese
doublecheese

Has the Police Dept. finally outdone the fire dept?  Guess who's vehicle Santa's riding in at this year's Christmas Parade.  Fire trucks...that's soooo lame now.

manpanties
manpanties

haha, my neurosis is bigger than yours.

James080
James080

Well let's see....if Wylie gets an armored personnel carrier, Allen is going to want at least an M1A1 Abrams tank, with flame thrower, anti-personnel weapon and anti-aircraft 90 mm gun (for those pesky drones). 


Who would have thought we would have a municipal arms race in north Texas?

tdkisok
tdkisok

THANK GOD!!  Way too many mines in Wylie. But how will this thing keep the Mexicans out? Ruddy? You seem to have all the answers. 

fromtexasbygod
fromtexasbygod

While it is ridiculous to believe every small town in Texas needs advanced tactical capabilities, the acquisition of a free military surplus armored vehicle by small town police is not what you need to be worrying about, the vehicle is nothing more than a bullet resistant protective shell.  


The real cause for concern is that so many small town chiefs and city administrators pretend that there is a legitimate need to justify a SWAT team, and the SWAT team members who pretend they have mastered and will be able to maintain the advanced tactical skills and capabilities required to field a SWAT team. 


Fact is that while the free military surplus armored vehicles could be useful in emergency situations  to protect officers and citizens from gunfire in scenarios such as active shooters or barricaded suspects, no small town has the need or resources to support a real SWAT team and they should stop pretending that they do.    

WhiteWhale
WhiteWhale

With the militarization of law enforcement and the rise of SWATing I see an excellent business opportunity for some entrepreneur.  Kits with automatically deploying white flags and easy slip on tee shirts that have "please don't kill me" and "I love cops" in glow in the dark neon letters.  

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

On second thought, with the way Vlad the Invader is acting these days, this might not be such a bad idea.

wcvemail
wcvemail

Easy bet: Frisco will trump this within the year, either in numbers or firepower, or both.

WhiteWhale
WhiteWhale

Dallas needs a few M42 Dusters or M60 MBTs to keep up with the burbs.  They would be bad ass for drug raids or code enforcement.  Overdue library books or parking tickets, collection is no problem when you send a tank. 

jprager1
jprager1

Rumor is that Addison is in line to get one or two B52's as the USAF is going to get smaller.  Thirty kiloton nukes will be included. What a "Boom Town that will be on the next Fourth of July.   

fjarrett
fjarrett

@bvckvs Do you live in Wylie? I live in Wylie and I don't see how you can say the community is " rife with religious zealots and gun-violence advocates and felons". Rife with religious zealots? Wylie is a small town with a strong Christian base. What is wrong with that? Rife with gun violence advocates? Are you saying folks in Wylie encourage people to shoot others? Rife with Felons. Where do you get your info to make that statement?  You don't know what you're talking about. I think you might be grouping Wylie with Dallas. Dallas we are not.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

@vsawmike  Taking a few cops who have forgotten Robert Peel's principles off the street would save more lives.


When was the last time you acted like a peace officer instead of a law enforcement officer?

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

@vsawmike  

"Of course, Warden Norton's idea of a bare minimum of taxpayer expense meant something completely different." -- Otis Boyd "Red" Redding

vsawmike
vsawmike

@roo_ster They are giving them away because they have many many more than they will ever need. No storage for these and they will go to good use.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul  They don't even need them then.  By the time they can get a special vehicle there, the shooting is over and the active shooter has already committed suicide.  


The only way to deal with an active shooter effectively is to have the first responding units engage him immediately.  Setting up and waiting for SWAT just get more people killed.  These cowards always shoot themselves as soon as another gun arrives on the scene, so the key is to get that other gun there as soon as possible.  


Waiting for cowboy vsawmike to get his tacticool gear on, cram his overburdened and overarmored ass into his tacticool vehicle, meander his way there in his fancy dump truck and then finally unass on the wrong side of the school is not the way to deal with an active shooter.

Darren
Darren

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul  That claim doesn't even stand up to basic scrutiny. 


MRAPs are mine-resistant vehicles for going into combat zones where guerrillas are setting up mines and IEDs that would destroy ordinary APCs. 


An MRAP is not justified for the active shooter scenario they talk about. Though since the vehicle is free, maybe it's better than buying an APC.

jswilson64
jswilson64

@James080  Meanwhile, over in Greenville, L-3 is quietly readying the Hunt County radar and communication jamming drone, to take down lesser cities' defenses before the big strike....

ozonelarryb
ozonelarryb

If Allen gets the Abrams, they can use it to knock down the stadium instead of outsourcing it.

I'd ppv that. Who else?

wcvemail
wcvemail

@James080  
In the office pool (updated on CNN, of course), I'm betting on Frisco. They've already proven their nutsy, righteous fervor by clearing the medians for combat. 

jswilson64
jswilson64

@fromtexasbygod  Here's another one for you: Dallas County Schools, an entity that exists to tax us and provide buses, but has not a single school or teacher, has a police force.  Just consider that for a little while...

doublecheese
doublecheese

@TheRuddSki  Forget Vlad, the BLM might decide to take parts of Wylie.   They've already got a ton of land at Lavon. That's the bigger threat. 

centurion20000
centurion20000

@wcvemail  They can probably top it already.   Frisco's new city hall is literally a fortress.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

@WhiteWhale  

I am thinking that an A-10 Warthog is better at crowd control.  Of course a squadron of F/A-18's coupled with an A-6 Intruder for targeting and standoff capability and you have that riot crowd dominated.

Of course, an AC-47 Spooky (Puff the Magic Dragon) can definitely dominate a congregation of people as well as support the occasional crack house raid.

vsawmike
vsawmike

@Darren @ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaulYou are incorrect. Many active shooters these days are donning bullet proof vests and higher powered firearms these days. a typical deer rifle with a high power bullet will go through a SWAT truck.

tdkisok
tdkisok

@doublecheese


The is no BLM land in Texas for Welfare Ranchers to steal public resources.  

fjarrett
fjarrett

@bvckvs @fjarrett  Let's put religion aside and address the inaccurate and idiotic statements you made about Wylie being "rife with Felons and gun violence advocates" I would like you to provide your sources to back up the statements. And by the way, where do you live?

fjarrett
fjarrett

@bvckvs @fjarrett  you painted a bad picture of Wylie. I would really like to have you provide your sources for the idiotic and  inaccurate statements you made like "rife with fellons and gun violence advocates. The religion statement I really don't care about.

fjarrett
fjarrett

@bvckvs @fjarrett  you painted a bad picture of Wylie. I would really like to have you provide your sources for the idiotic and  inaccurate statements you made like "rife with felons and gun violence advocates. The religion statement I really don't care about. And by the way, where do you live?

wcvemail
wcvemail

@vsawmike @everlastingphelps @ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul  
Usually when we have LEOs commenting here, they're effective and informed contributors despite their obvious inclinations and beliefs. You, on the other hand, have devolved (or continued?) the same ol' McDonald's test drivel. 

vsawmike
vsawmike

@everlastingphelps @vsawmike@Darren@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul

Just do a google search for active shooters in body armor. get a clue man. I know what will go through an armored car or SWAT vehicle. I used to build them. We had an indoor armor test range and even had a .50 cal we tested armor with. Stop commenting on stuff you have no clue about. 

wcvemail
wcvemail

@doublecheese @tdkisok  
I don't know any of the details yet, but "Greg Abbot is threatening to sue" is not news in any context.

doublecheese
doublecheese

@tdkisok @doublecheese  You won't read it here, but the BLM is trying to take privately owned Texas land on the Red River right now.  Greg Abbot is threatening to sue.  Wendy Davis is, as usual, completely silent on the subject.

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