Dallas PD Chief David Brown Vows to ID Cop Who Said DPD Has Eased Training Standards

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The accusations leveled last week by Dallas Police Association President Ron Pinkston were serious: Dallas PD was relaxing standards for its driving- and firearms-training courses to allow unqualified recruits to become cops. More serious, certainly, than his assertion that keeping cops from shooting people, or allowing Avi Adelman to legally film them, will harm public safety.

And Pinkston seemed to know what he was talking about. The letter he sent to City Manager A.C. Gonzalez and other city officials identified one recruit, who repeatedly failed the Police Vehicle Operations Course test, by name. The name was redacted by the time The Dallas Morning News got a copy, but the information was pretty specific:

Recruit [redacted] did not pass his PVOC Test and was offered a retest, which he again failed. Recruit [redacted] was then allowed to take the test two more times after remedial training. Again, he failed both times. A recommendation for termination was sent up through the chain of command, which is in accordance with our Department rules and established training standards.

Instead of following training standards and proceeding with termination, the Academy was directed by the command staff to continue to remediate Recruit [redacted] until he passed. Recruit [redacted] was then remediated and eventually passed PVOC after multiple additional attempts.

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Similarly, the department "has significantly reduced the standards of their firearms training to allow an officer, who is a marginal shooter, to be remediated until they qualify."

DPD Chief David Brown responded the next day by issuing a categorical denial.

"We take these allegations very seriously and will not tolerate the lowering or downgrading of our training standards," Brown said.

The department had conducted a thorough, day-long review, which "involved speaking with involved employees at the police academy and the firearms training center," and "revealed no facts to support the allegation that anyone directed that the recruit be remediated until he passed the PVOC course."

The recruit did, it seems, get multiple stabs at the driving course, but this was in accordance with rules passed in 2012. The firearms training policies were last amended in 2009. There were "no facts to support" the allegation that an unqualified shooter was allowed to pass.

In response to Pinkston's letter, Brown has directed internal affairs to launch an "administrative inquiry" to "ascertain the source of these allegations."

Pinkston responded to the response by calling on Brown to release documents -- memos, test scores, letters of termination and Texas Commission on Law Enforcement documents -- and to allow department trainers and police academy staff to speak publicly.

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fromtexasbygod
fromtexasbygod

Such a practice is commonplace in large law enforcement agencies across the U.S. in order to meet hiring quotas for women and especially for difficult to recruit minorities.  It was a running joke within the largest State LE Agency in Texas a few years ago when female recruits who repeatedly were unable to pass the minimum physical fitness standards required to graduate from the Academy were taken behind the "magic berm" by female instructors and out of view of their male classmates where they magically acquired the physical strength and ability to pass the test.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

My posts are disappearing.  Maybe the Editor is trying to tell Myrna something? 

roo_ster
roo_ster

Guns and cars are racist.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

How dare they accurately describe the situation!  We've got to get to the bottom of this!


BTW, is there any doubt that Recruit [redacted] is not white?  This is a pretty standard story in places where courts order the departments to "improve diversity".  The lack of diversity is generally traceable to non-white recruits failing the testing (for which I blame our indoctrination system that masquerades as education).  So, to comply with the court order, the department keeps sending them back to training until they finally figure out the test (which means I have no confidence that they have actually been trained, they just figure out the test) or when that doesn't work, they lower the standards.  Maybe DPD has gotten to the "or", maybe they haven't.


It's not just driving tests.  It's all the tests.  Driving just happens to be a hot-button here because our cops keep running down kids on bikes with their cars.  Since failing to properly craft an affidavit isn't as hot a story on the evening news, we don't hear about the ones failing that test.


Similarly, the department "has significantly reduced the standards of their firearms training to allow an officer, who is a marginal shooter, to be remediated until they qualify."


This is pretty standard too.  Most cops are terrible shots.  Seriously.  They shoot around 50 rounds a year -- exactly the number they need to qualify.  Anyone who has taken the Texas CHL class will tell you that the shooting test is laughably easy to pass.  Guess what?  Cops get the exact same test.  And they often fail it.  So what do they do?  Do they take a cop with 8 years experience and fire him?  Hell no, they send him back out to the range.  Over and over, until he finally squeaks over the line (and then probably on luck.)  
Look at the last few police shootings in NYC.  They are hitting more bystanders than suspects.  Seriously.  You were more likely to get shot by a cop in NYC last year by standing next to a criminal than by being a criminal.  

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

If you cant shoot accurately, and cant pass a driving test, you probably shouldnt own a gun or a car, much less be a cop.  

ozonelarryb
ozonelarryb

That Pinky is a hoot. DPA has a group rep who killed a kid on a bicycle, then blamed dead streetlights for it.

Michael Vaughn, Cole Berardi.

HeywoodUBuzzoff
HeywoodUBuzzoff

Whens seconds count, the DPD is one remedial driving retrial away,

tdkisok
tdkisok

-- The department had conducted a thorough, day-long review, which "involved speaking with involved employees at the police academy and the firearms training center," and "revealed no facts to support the allegation that anyone directed that the recruit be remediated until he passed the PVOC course." --


Yeah.....that makes me feel better. 

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz  I had a few weeks, were some of my most masterful posts were deleted. May have had to do with my excessive use of fuck, or the links to videos and what not

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Myrna

Are you including links? That sometimes does it.

919191rw
919191rw

@everlastingphelps

All you have to do is observe the actions of the sorry people in uniform with the Dallas Police Departments Special Events Police (rent -a - cops) at a White Rock Lake event. No training or clue as to ordinances,rules and regulations. Simply there to put in their time to earn a paycheck.  Nothing but homeless people with GUNS. Very scary.DPD has without question lowered it's standards and become nothing more than a quota vehicle for keeping the unemployment rate down.

cawnlu
cawnlu

Sorry Phelps, but you're way off on your comparison between CHL and police qualifications. They are not the same....they aren't even close. Besides, there is no standard qualification between departments. They vary considerably.


Also, your comment that they "often fail" qualifications isn't based in reality either. It is exceedingly rare that tenured officers fail qualifications. Saying that they are terrible shots is also a stretch. The fact is that most officers who miss or hit bystanders are returning fire. This means that the officer is already “behind the curve,” and sometimes they have already been wounded. That is the reason the hit rate for suspects shooting cops is higher than cops shooting suspects. Suspects shooting cops usually shoot first, and they don’t have to play by any “rules.” Combat shooting is much different from shooting paper on the range. Misses happen, and are often unavoidable.

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TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@everlastingphelps

Your assessment of the demands of diversity is one reason my son is in medicine, and not in the public as a First Responder. It was really quite an education.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@bvckvs

Yeah, if you want any job with a government paycheck, no matter how incompetent you prove to be time after time after time after time, they'll find a way to give you that job.

Obviously, if someone can't get a gov't job, they'll have a hard time even in the fast-food industry, and they'll somehow ene up being a burden to the taxpayer.

However, positions involving weapons and autos should be stricter than, say, a position in the gov't school system.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@tdkisok  It reminds of Christie's recent assemblage of his attorneys to "thoroughly investigate" Bridgegate, who "found" that Christie knew nothing of the four-day shutdown of the George Washington bridge.  His lawyers held a press conference and proclaimed that he is now "completely exonerated".  

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz @everlastingphelps  Diversity isn't the problem, or even a problem.  The problem is putting a false diversity (skin color and sex organ diversity) over qualifications in a life-and-death occupation, while ignoring true (intellectual) diversity.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@bvckvs @ScottsMerkin  when you continually fail the test, then have standards lowered and still fail, and then lower them to the point they "pass", that is not being qualified to do shit.  They certainly shouldnt be doing this on the cities dime.  If he wants to be a cop bad enough, go train to shoot and drive on his own time and own dime.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@bvckvs

It should be at least as hard to be a cop as it is to join the Navy.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@TheRuddSki  that was obviously a shot at bvckvs failed attempts to become a teacher at DISD

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@TheRuddSki  "...any job with a government paycheck".  So then that includes military personnel, I would conclude.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Myrna

If a traffic jam has you angry, the growing IRS abuses must have you really, really pissed - because if they can be this glaringly weaponized against republican groups, they could easily get away with targeting some group or individual you favor. They could even tread all over you, without batting an eye.

Luckily for you though, the IRS - like almost all federal bureaucracy - is comprised chiefly of statist democrats, your ideological fellow travelers.

Anyway, just to keep you up to date

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2014/04/the-irs-scandal-13.html

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

@TheRuddSki  Nah, that would suggest meritocracy, and I couldn't conceive of the Observer embracing that philosophy.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Myrna @TheRuddSki

OMG, they're cutting your posts and doubling mine. Maybe they're gonna cut your pay and give it to me!

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Myrna

I don't think they operate that way, I would hope not.

But maybe there is a post-to-like-button ratio that effectively reflects reading public's opinion, and you've aggravated the algorithm?

Kidding. I'm sure there's a tech explanation - but I, for one, would protest any effort to dissuade you from posting here, even tho I consider you a bit daft.

Any comments from a moderator?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Myrna

I don't think they operate that way, I would hope not.

But maybe there is a post-to-like-button ratio that effectively reflects reading public's opinion, and you've aggravated the algorithm?

Kidding. I'm sure there's a tech explanation - but I, for one, would protest any effort to dissuade you from posting here, even tho I consider you a bit daft.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Myrna

Why do you hate America ?

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz @everlastingphelps  Only you would read that I think that non-whites have been ill-served by our inadequate education system and decide that means I am a white-supremacist.


If I thought that there was anything about white people that made us inherently smarter, your existence would have thoroughly disabused me of the idea.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

So you've abounded your initial comment already bc I proved it was an idiotic statement. As for the veracity of the accusation, can you prove what the officer said isnt happening? Chew on that and good night

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@bvckvs @ScottsMerkin  whether this deals with cops, teachers, firefighters, or any other public sector job, no we should not lower standards just to make someone qualify.  Would you want the standards to become a doctor be lowered so that people who couldnt pass the exams, now have a better chance to pass?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@ScotsMerkin

According to professer Bucky, he only flunked community school math because the teacher had it in for him, but according to bvckvs' latest comments, he's managed some sort of employment in a gov't school.

If so, I'd hate to be a kid he's decided is "a white "Republican", or an "Evangelist" of any color.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Myrna

Some branches are different than others, and they have begun changes to reflect societal issues, such as rescinding Clinton's gay standards.

They're also lowering certain standards to accommodate women - even in the USMC, which is the toughest branch, "Few and Proud" isn't just an empty slogan - it's based on reality.

Although, "The Few And The Proud" doesn't have as much punch as, say, Alice Walkers's "We Are The Ones We've Been awaiting For", or that famous and arousing SDS anti-war slogan : "Girls say "Yes" To guys who say "No."

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Myrna

I don't get cable, hon. And when you say that my "harangue" is exact, you're clearly lying, because I'm quite certain that, like a good bubble-liberal, you'd rather kick a cat than watch FOX.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@tdkisok

Well, we have one resignation, a top official taking the fifth but about to face arrest for contempt of congress, damning emails just revealed last week and more - all centered on targeting of conservative groups by the agency, while not a single liberal group of the same designation was likewise targeted.

It looks pretty bad.

It's all at the link I provided, did you not want to read the details?

Democrat-controlled media is studiously avoiding coverage due to the upcoming mid-terms, which are looking pretty dismal as it is, but if Lerner goes to jail, they'll have to grudgingly start performing their jobs.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@tdkisok  Ruddski regurgitates the tedious nonsense that he hears on the FOX news channel.  The harangue is so exact it's like an echo.

tdkisok
tdkisok

@TheRuddSki  


Again, another sidestep. Obviously you have been trying to find something SIGNIFICANT but failed. 


You are a total dipshit.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@tdkiosk

Well, I sidestepped people who don't know how to click on a link, evidently. If you're that hopeless, then your opinion on the issue doesn't matter.

tdkisok
tdkisok

@TheRuddSki  


So by that total sidestep I'm assuming you can't give us all here the growing examples of IRS abuse?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@tdkisok @Myrna

Oh, and per CNN:

Christie is providing the memos to the U.S. attorney’s office and a state legislative committee, both of which are investigating the matter.

tdkisok
tdkisok

@TheRuddSki  


"the growing IRS abuses must have you really, really pissed"


Please, show us all these ever growing IRS abuses. 

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Myrna

Your post I replied to below did disappear.

You're not paranoid.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Myrna

Oh, we know the administration got away with having their incompetence pounded on a Benghazi - this is one advantage to having a supportive majority-democrat press corps which openly roots for an administration rather than assume the adversarial role expected.

It's getting a little harder for the press to ignore the lies on Obamacare, though the Bob a Schieffer transcript I posted recently shows how hard they're trying.

And the WaPo a Pinnochios are building up.

Now, the IRS thing, that's not going away, and even his most ardent supporters in the press will have to acknowledge - but they, like the administration, are trying their best to make it past the midterms before it blows.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Myrna

Mocking death and incompetence. How special.

I'll bet you're 100% behind Brandeis University's courageous ousting of Aryan Hirsi Ali, given that institutions Jewish roots and the willingness of American institutions to abide by Shariah law.

After all a Muslim apostate woman of color who lives under a constant threat of death because of her fight for international women's rights is no-one a lefty would want anything to do with, right?

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