Dallas, Trashed by Outside Magazine, Gets Last Word With Victorious, Eighth-Best City Ranking in Forbes Listicle

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Steve Rainwater
When Outside magazine named Dallas the least outdoorsy city in America, as Eric reported this week, the insult felt personal. The magazine not only failed to notice local outdoorsy favorites like White Rock Lake and Klyde Warren Park, it also accused us all of wearing unfashionable "ten-gallon hats."

We now have harder proof that Outside magazine has made a mistake. Forbes, a much more prestigious magazine, reports this week Dallas is actually one of the country's best cities for millennials. The timing couldn't have been better.

Forbes' special report, "Best Cities And Neighborhoods For Millennials," puts Dallas in the very solid and respectable No. 8 spot.

The millennials are happy here because their average salary is $29,830 and their median rent is $874. Their favorite neighborhood is Oak Lawn.

To be completely honest, Forbes didn't really name Dallas itself as the eighth-best city for millennials, but instead selected an entity called "Dallas-Fort Worth." It's a mistake people commonly make when they just hang out in the DFW airport on a layover and never leave, but we'll assume that's not what happened here.

Also, another minor caveat: Forbes didn't actually analyze the data itself. Writer Kathryn Dill explains in the report that she obtained the data from Niche.com, a website that "has been tracking the behaviors, preferences, and decision-making of millennials since 2002." Sounds legit.

While the list didn't specifically analyze outdoorsiness, it finds other attractive factors about the selected cities:

The factors examined include percentage of the population identified as millennials (ages 25 to 34), median income, education level, and racial diversity. The ranking also favors lower median rents, unemployment rates, and crime rates ... User-generated survey data contributed on factors like nightlife, cultural attractions, shopping, and professional sports was also taken into consideration.

"It's a good balance of what you need to think about when you're starting to get serious about life beyond college," Niche.com's Mark Tressler tells Forbes.

That's all a nice way of saying that these are the best cities for aspiring yuppies who are still single and poor. And Dallas-Fort Worth is even better than San Diego and Minnesota-St. Paul if you a person in that group. So there. How does our Reunion Tower taste now, Outside magazine bitches?

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42 comments
CurtQuayle
CurtQuayle

You had me until this: "Forbes, a much more prestigious magazine" Forbes sucks. Just go to their website and sift through the billion pop-up ads. 

linda.rains
linda.rains

The fact that you think Klyde Warren Park should somehow earn Dallas points for being outdoorsy only illustrates how NOT outdoorsy this city and it's population are.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

The Republican magazine has a real bone to pick with Dallas - because we're an island of blue in a sea of red.

James080
James080

I'm trying hard to care how Outside or Frobes ranks Dallas, or anyone else for that matter, but it's just not working for me. Dallas is what it is, a politically flawed but relatively livable, regionally prominent city. 

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

I wonder why Uptown is included as part of Oak Lawn.

MattL11
MattL11

"Representative College: Southern Methodist University"


NOOOO!

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

This article highlights two important points.


1) The Observer isn't immune from DFW's apparent need for external approval.  Apparently it doesn't even matter if the person or entity doing the approving is one that the Observer itself approves of. (I'm assuming a magazine headed up by a rich Republican tycoon isn't popular at the water cooler)


2) If the somewhat less than thorough research cited to back up this article is any indication, one shudders to think what passes for 'research' in Observer articles where no citations are given.

rudyiii
rudyiii

hahaha you guys are hilarious!

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

Forbes should read this blog for the real scoop, specifically Myrna's bullet-points proving that Texas (from which DFW is not immune) is the most backwards, dismal hick-shit hole in the a West, and bvckv's documentation of the daily outrages by Republicans, Evangelists, Black Evangelists and Republican Evangelists, and the fact that roaming Mexicans keep white folks housebound.

Not to mention the War On Women's vaginas.

J_A_
J_A_

I feel this is list will encourage more $30K millionaires douchebaggery here

MikeWestEast
MikeWestEast

How do they define Oaklawn?  We must have a million Millennials n the Metroplex .  I sincerely doubt any more than a tiny fraction lives between Stemmons, Uptown and Highland Park.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@CurtQuayle

That's an odd way to judge the "prestigiousness" of a publication - the number of ads.

Have you ever tried to block pop-ups before?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@bvckvs

Forbes is complimentary of Dallas, indicating once again your intellectual dyslexia. Read twice, comment once.

Or maybe you think Dallas should have been #1?

Polly
Polly

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz Because both areas are zoned Planned Development District No. 193 "The Oak Lawn Special Purpose District."

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@MattL11

It should be UTD - but Forbes is a Republican magazine, and they don't have any regard for public schools.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@MattL11

Dallas Baptist?

JFPO
JFPO

You still seem to struggle with the concept of "editorial blog," don't you? Not to mentiion having a busted sarcasm meter. You may not know this, but there are several places on the internet where you can whine about persecuted conservatives with like minded people. You should take Ruddski, Phelps, Holman and Nambla-Caps Lock guy with you.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

Ruddski loves Texas so much that he decided to live in South Carolina.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@MikeWestEast They may live in Garland, Farmers Branch, etc. - but they do their drunk driving in Oak Lawn.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@lebowski300

"Frobes" is what doctors due to you after they snap on the latex gloves and have you bend over.

casiepierce
casiepierce

@Polly @Myrna.Minkoff-KatzYeah because when people think of neighborhoods they immediately think of the city council's planned development districts, Sorry, but Oak Lawn and Uptown are two separate, distinct neighborhoods, and look, there's even a nifty water feature that defines their boundaries.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@bvckvs

The reading Forbes has little regard for gov't schools is because Forbes has more regard for gov't-school students than they do for anti-choice unions who have helped to create the most dismal schools in the developed world, while hiring and protecting known nutters.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@JFPO Since I respect the consideration and candor you usually put into your comments here, I'll help you out.  My comment was a bit of snark.  It isn't quite sarcasm, so your one-track meter probably didn't detect it.  I don't whine about persecuted conservatives, in fact I can often be found persecuting them.  I can understand your confusion, since I also can often be found persecuting liberals (actually their ideals, with both groups.  I believe living with one's own stupidity is often physical persecution enough.).  I know it is very difficult for you to imagine a person can NOT belong to either erroneous category of political thought.  There is a rare, once thought extinct, category of thought on matters politic, the free-thinkers.  We sort of believe we can pick and choose the best ideals from the left and right (as we see them) and combine them into an individualized political ideal.  You should try it sometime.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@JFPO

You make a flawed assumption that conservatives seek a bubble of the like- minded with a chorus of agreement where there is astonishment at the past election because "no-one I know voted for Obama". (I'm not sure you're old enough to get that reference )

IOW, you're attributing the zeal for ideological lockstep to the wrong ideology. The reason some conservatives, or "trolls" as they are often called here frequent this forum to the degree they do is because this blog, unlike several others like DU, LGF et al do not brook questioning or perceived dissent from the Party Line, and such behaviour results in instant banishment.

If the contrary positions which seemingly aggravate your sense of decorum are actual, then you reinforce the perception that the left admires collective lock-step, the 99-percent vote and the eliminationist approach of totalitarianism, such as the Glory of Cuba, or the voting habits of the black community.

Trouble is, my friend, there's not a damn thing you can do to utopianize Unfair Park, and as our president says to the majority of Americans unhappy with his policy: "Tough Shit"

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Myrna

I did? How did I like it?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@TheCredibleHulk

Better his mouth than... Well, you know.

TheCredibleHulk
TheCredibleHulk topcommenter

@TheRuddSki  

It just sounds like he's saying "Frobes" because his hands are usually both busy and got the flashlight in his mouth. 

P1Gunter
P1Gunter

Even most people inside the loop and whom have lived their life here can't identify areas of this city. People still call Fair Park South Dallas on this very blog.

casiepierce
casiepierce

@jacobtaylor0505 @casiepierce@Polly@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz I don't really care about what "99% of the metroplex" thinks. I live inside Dallas, way inside the loop. WE are the people who care about how outsiders decide to define OUR neighborhoods that they don't live anywhere close to.Sorry but Myrna's post was a valid one.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@JFPO I hadn't seen NAMBLA's new moniker, as I haven't been stalking these boards as in the past.  I thought that was your own take on CAPS LOCK guy, then I read a few other threads and see that CAPS LOCK exposed his fixation on NAMBLA.  I don't and never cared for him, I was liking your identification.

JFPO
JFPO

I am opposed to NAMBLA and CAPS LOCK.

JFPO
JFPO

Let's see..,you didn't understand that Amy was making fun of both articles, jumped in here clamoring about "journalism," then say I didn't get your "snark?" You need to get better at snark. Perhaps you could do it in less than 500 words, like your typical post. That last sentence was snark, by the way.

JFPO
JFPO

"If the contrary positions which seemingly aggravate your sense of decorum are actual, then you reinforce the perception that the left admires collective lock-step, the 99-percent vote and the eliminationist approach of totalitarianism, such as the Glory of Cuba, or the voting habits of the black community."

First off, WTF? Obamacare take away your meds? I'm not aggravated by opposing viewpoints that are intelligent and well thought out. Your drivel is neither.

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