Dallas Lawyer Sues Large Chunk of North Texas Lacrosse Community For Not Playing His Son

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If at first you don't succeed, litigate.
Pop quiz: A young high school athlete isn't getting much playing time. As a parent, do you a) Encourage your teenager to buckle down and work harder; b) Have a few choice words with the coach; or c) Suggest that, you know, maybe academic decathlon might be a better fit for his or her talents?

If you chose any of the options above, you haven't been initiated into the rarefied Dallas lacrosse scene. If you had, you'd know that the correct answer is actually d) Sue for damages.

That's at least the one Dallas trial lawyer William Munck is choosing. On Tuesday he filed a federal racketeering lawsuit against Dallas Lacrosse Academy LLC and a half dozen local lacrosse coaches alleging they were shaking down families in exchange for playing their kids and giving them other advantages.

To understand the suit, which weighs in at a hefty 39 pages, it helps to understand how the local youth lacrosse community is structured. On the one hand, you have teams that have formed over the past decade or two at elite prep schools (e.g. St. Mark's, Greenhill, the Episcopal School of Dallas) and upper-crust suburbs (e.g. Plano, Highland Park, Frisco); on the other, are independent organizations like DLA (now C2C Lacrosse) and StickStar.

There's a lot of cross-pollination between the school and the select teams, both for players and coaches, and the competition is intense, with the select programs particularly focused on getting kids into NCAA lacrosse programs.

Munck's son, Billy, now at Southwestern University in Georgetown, TX, spent his high school years played for ESD.

During his sophomore year, Billy Munck was mostly relegated to the bench by Coach Kevin Barnicle. This wasn't because of talent, the Muncks said; it was because they refused to participate in the for-profit Dallas Lacrosse Academy, which Barnicle was involved in.

This, the suit says, wasn't an isolated incident. Barnicle (now at Greenhill) and colleagues like John Marano (then at Plano West), Alex Poole (currently at Coppell High School), and Chris Van Dorn (currently Highland Park), all involved with DLA, systematically used their coaching positions to coerce families into joining their side business.

All of which, the Muncks say, violate a host of NCAA rules and the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, which Congress passed to help prosecutors fight organized crime.

The lacrosse coaches have denied that DLA is anything of the sort (This is apparently Munck's second lawsuit against them. The Muncks write that they want to ensure "that others, including Billy's younger brother - a high school sophomore, do not suffer a similar fate.").

Clearly, a messy situation, but also a teachable moment. The lesson here? Always, always, always play the kid of the trial lawyer.

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lottonancy
lottonancy

William Munck is 100% right.  If you do not play on a select or tournament team you are benched and definately have less playing time during the regular HS season if your coach also coaches tourney teams.  It's completely corrupt and unmonitored because it is not an approved sport at most schools, so the AD doesn't have any involvement.  The  uneducated coaches with no child development backgrounds, extracting money from parents is what lacrosse is all about these days.  This is very accurate and I applaud William Munck for standing up for this.  This is exactly what has gone on in our area but parents are too fearful to approach the coaches or boards. US Lacrosse needs to support William Munck.


"Shacking down families is exactly what has gone on".  The "for profit"  coaches  who are also coaching the Spring HS teams have put parents over a barrel.  


There is a huge conflict of interest if you coach a high school team and then kids on your HS team are selected or sign up(mommy and daddy have never been to the East Coast and are so impressed they pay for Johnny to go) on tournament teams your HS coach is coaching or involved with(it's usually disguised as a non profit).  Also, if you are a high school coach and offer summer camps to future players. It's bad business and because lacrosse is unmonitored it has been allowed to happen.


If your coach is presently coaching a Spring HS team then that team needs to be made up of 1/2 tournament kids and half, who do not play on tournament teams.  The starters have to be 1/2 and 1/2 also.  Playing time needs to be 1/2 and 1/2 also. That would be the only way to control the politics and the mighty dollar.


Let's talk about the East Coast tournaments.  Why on earth would you want your child playing lacrosse in July in 100 degree plus weather in a different time zone?  He is already at a disadvantage not sleeping in his own bed regardless of how old he is. The worst message is what did the child do to earn the expensive trip?  State or League championship?  No.  Nothing. It is a bad message.


College coaches are looking for multi sport athletes who have great grades.


Eric Nicholson you are wrong and need to educate yourself.  Lacrosse is lucky to have William Munck looking out for the kids and naive new lacrosse parents.  





Gramps1952
Gramps1952

There are these type programs all over the country where lacrosse is played. I believe what has happened is Texas, mainly DFW area has had a group of men basically come in and take advantage of parents, like most parents, of their desires to help their kids be successful.  I have heard stories regarding one of the mentioned names in the complaint not just stories about his behaviors but also his actions in not just lacrosse but other sports he wished his own two sons could excel in.  Sounds like to me a good house cleaning in the lacrosse community is needed and more reform on coaching rules for monetary gain needs to be set.  If you coach in a high school club then you don't coach or give private lesson for money.  My grandson I understand was being charged $100.00 an hour for a lesson, for a 12 year old at that, that is robbery and ridiculous but out of fear my son paid it because he had heard these stories from others.  Whoever is right or wrong this has brought up some good facts that have got to be addressed.  What happened to handwork, skill and good character used to achieve your dreams?  Maybe it is time for parents to intervene in these programs and hit the reset button on these administrations and coaches. Sadden's my heart for the young people, saddens my heart for the parents who fell into the trap as well, teach your children values of hard work and help them see the core value of success is finding the right ways to achieve and not the ways of paying your way.  These type of situations always fail.  Good luck to the young folks.

75229
75229

That youtube video is priceless, funny but sad because its probably not far from the truth. "multiple elite teams @ each age level and at least 24 kids on each team, half price to High Point, etc."   https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=XX8TP0H3JPM&app=desktop


For profit youth sports and "for the kids" never work. C$C is run as a business and the kids development & self esteem are secondary. Families should approach them with their eyes wide open. Buyer beware.

75201
75201

Perhaps if Mr Munck had spent as much time, money and passion supporting the development of Billy's lacrosse skills as he has pursuing lawsuits there would be no litigation and Billy would've had a better experience. 

The article doesn't mention that prior to the arrival of DLA, Munck was a notoriously prominent leader in the ONLY "all star" club program in Dallas. Perhaps the elimination of that monopoly by DLA, and Mr Munck taking his son's lacrosse participation for granted, is what's really going on here. 

I feel sorry for Billy Munck. I suspect he is very embarrassed by all of this. All of us have seen a parent like this on a sideline or in a sports organization. This parent just has a bigger pocket book than most, allowing him to throw a very public "legal temper tantrum".  It's sad to see such a public meltdown of Mr Munck, who at one time was a meaningful volunteer in the earlier days of Dallas lacrosse.

Billy Munck may be a victim, but the culprit I suspect may be an overbearing father who wasn't used to being told no in Dallas lacrosse circles. 

Hey Mr Munck. Just let go of it... enough is enough...

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas

joeinbost, I don't know that I'd agree ALL lawyers are corrupt.  But, there certainly are a large number who are, and who have no respect for the law or society.  (An associate who is a lawyer actually told me he went to law school to learn how to get around the law.  Sounds just like the current lawyer in the White House.)


I checked, and found there's no position for lawyers in Lacrosse.  That's as it should be.

joeinbost
joeinbost

All lawyer in Dallas are corrupt. I was swindled by one in April of 2006 when I bought a business from VR Business Group, Swindlers.  I paid 750 dollars for Legal Document Prep, somehow the Lawyer missed all the liens from the Landlord. Then I got sued by SCOT COCROFT  a POS. I was sued by mail and when I requested a telephonic Deposition hearing Judge Williams of Rockwall Court of Law, I never set foot in Rockwall Co so a little CYA by the Judge (I think he was the Felon who wrote the Contract in 2006) Then the lawyer that filed the suit Sid Murphy  lied in the cour documents, I have never sued anybody in Dallas County and I was never sued by the landlord since I was never on the Lease. Two lies that the Judge did not care about, again he was just CYA. 

All Lawyers in Dallas are lying bastards ( the self made types not the accident at Birth) When they apply to the Dallas and Texas Bar  they are asked, DO YOU LIE? Can you tell the TRUTH? if they answer YES  and No they are in 

joeinbost
joeinbost

All lawyers in Dallas are corrupt. I was swindled by one in April of 2006 when I bought a business from VR Business Group, Swindlers.  I paid 750 dollars for Legal Document Prep, somehow the Lawyer missed all the liens from the Landlord. Then I got sued by SCOT COCROFT  a POS. I was sued by mail and when I requested a telephonic Deposition hearing Judge Williams of Rockwall Court of Law, I never set foot in Rockwall Co so a little CYA by the Judge (I think he was the Felon who wrote the Contract in 2006) Then the lawyer that filed the suit Sid Murphy  lied in the court documents, I have never sued anybody in Dallas County and I was never sued by the landlord since I was never on the Lease. Two lies that the Judge did not care about, again he was just CYA. 

All Lawyers in Dallas are lying bastards ( the self made types not the accident at Birth) When they apply to the Dallas and Texas Bar  they are asked, DO YOU LIE? Can you tell the TRUTH? if they answer YES  and No they are in,


Contact Joeinbost@aol.com


Shakespeare was right about lawyers 

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas

Sports and lawyering have several things in common.  You always play your best players strategically, you don't play poor players when winning counts, you follow the rules to avoid penalties and scolding from the officials, and you convert winning into even more cash than just being "remunerated" to play at all. 

If my father had sued ANYBODY for not playing me enough in sports - which didn't happen - I would have been so humiliated I would have changed my name and run away from home. 

I understand this lawyer is filing suits as though he's going after a drug cartel instead of a sports association, and it's certainly his right to do it.  That doesn't make it smart or good for his kids. 



Greg820
Greg820

I see a golden opportunity for Neon's Prime LAX Academy:  


"We Take LAX and Activity and Make it a Laxative!"

Karmawillcome4u
Karmawillcome4u

First as a sophomore at a highly talented private school think you should REALLY be on varsity squad.  Do you think this kid is good enough?  So good that you go to a lower level D3 school and get 3 points as a freshman.  So talented that he is no longer listed on their roster.  Interesting... Munck stop living your childhood dreams of being an elite athlete and living through your kids.  Maybe the parents are to blame.  YOUR KID IS NOT GOOD!!! face it.  Facts are facts.  Only reason he was ever on Southwestern';s roster I think is because Daddy is friends with the coach. There is talent, then there is talent at pretending your good.  KARMA will bite you Muncks.  Innocent until proven guilty.  News companies trying to ruin lives of the average joe.  Why run this story, why not wait til its over with?  

IMHO
IMHO

Where is everlastingphelps going 'z z z z'?

lebowski300
lebowski300

Everything involving the combination of high school students, extracurricular activities and how it affects secondary education opportunities - EVERYTHING - is as corrupt as this suit claims on some level. It is only a matter of degree. I think with enough effort and expense, this lawsuit could prove it is closer to the truth it claims than Eric's snarky butthurt parent insinuation.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

rich people problems, rich people solutions.

twocentsworth
twocentsworth

nope. And I'll change my screen name - I'm not an ESD fan.


unfairparkjunkie
unfairparkjunkie

she's back... i remember justamom....the apologist for ESD in the sex scandal case.

twocentsworth
twocentsworth

The "home zone" rule doesn't apply in the summer, only during the spring season. The kid could've played for any club team. There are kids in Dallas who play for Baltimore and NY club teams. Doesn't matter.


Didn't Munck run his own select club program for a while? And didn't it fall apart when all those kids started playing for this other program - the one he's now suing? 


The players didn't change clubs because they were coerced by their school coaches. They followed their school coaches because they LIKED them and wanted to get better at lacrosse.  As with many varsity sports, if the player doesn't participate in somebody's summer club program, he's going to get less instruction than his peers and it will be harder for him to stay competitive. Most kids prefer to play for the coach they already know, with their friends from their school. 


Sure, it's too bad a kid falls behind if he doesn't participate in these club programs, but it is what it is. It's too bad they're so expensive, but it's mostly because Texas teams have to travel to the East Coast to play competitively. It's not because the coaches are making a killing off these teams. For the time they put in, I'd be surprised if they end up making $5/hour. It's hard to make the case the coaches are financially motivated. They could work at Starbucks and make more money over the summer.


The true test isn't whether a kid who chose not to play in anyone's summer program got overlooked because he didn't play on his coach's team. Did the coach prevent him from playing on another club team? Did the kid even try out for any other club team? Did he practice on his own? 


It's a sad precedent that an affluent trial attorney with a grudge can make life hell for a coach on a high school teacher's salary by keeping a lawsuit alive for years and years. 




boilerjoe_96
boilerjoe_96

LAX is different than other sports.  Soccer you have 100 different teams to choose from.  UIL has rules for sports it has domain over.  LAX you are required to play in your 'home zone'...  In the event you want to play for a private school with no 'home zone' then you have to get a release and can NEVER go back to your home zone.  So this kid, since he went to ESD most likely got a release from his 'home zone' to play for ESD.  Now the coach knows he has complete control.  Kid can't go any place else he would be ineligible.  Couple that with the lack of UIL rules, and the kid got screwed.


I have seen this before, certain kids in favored social circles, coaches kids get the playing time..the ones going to the 'right' select team or to the chosen camps... they get the PT.  You don't toe the line, and the coach tries to force compliance and benches you(though never says it).  They are starting this home zone rule on the girls side, and a similar situation has already occurred.  Very talented girl wasn't in right social circle and is in a tough spot, leave the program and never come back or ride pine...(this girl made a couple select teams so she has talent)

Sharon_Moreanus
Sharon_Moreanus topcommenter

Wasn't good enough for Hofstra so he went to the SU butt Pirates.

Billys first year stats are hardly impressive.

Interesting SU just brought back the football team after 60 some odd years in 2013.

unfairparkjunkie
unfairparkjunkie

Eric, 

are you able to post the entire lawsuit on your site.  That might answer some of these questions. 

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

Lacrosse?

Really?

Bunny, bring me another Pimm's  Cup, I'm dying over here.

kjhwk
kjhwk

Blame it all on the parent defending what COULD be the right thing to do? If the accusations about the coaches are true...there is a very sleazy side to lacrosse in the Dallas area. The parents would be right to sue. The article doesn't come out and say that the kid was not talented enough to play and no mention of the coach saying that . But it does seem like it gave the impression that the coaches that were mentioned, who all worked for DLA, might have been coercing parents into supporting their "side businesses" in order for the kid to play. If he isn't talented enough, then take the options given. But if coaches are guilty......I say nice job by the parents! 

dc005
dc005

As lawyers might say,  "The threshold issue is whether the private companies involved (private schools)  have failed to reasonably supervise their employees (coaches),  so that the employees are allowed to require additional financial inducements to allow their young customers (students) to fully participate in activities advertised and marketed as inducements and reasons for young customers to spend $20,000+ a year to purchase the services of said companies." 

Whew!

Which opens the Q of all the football and basketball 'camps' most every coach,  including public schools,   hosts once or twice a year.

Can a private school contract with a student,  'in consideration of your paying $20,000+ a year,  it is agreed you will be a "starter" on the whatever-team in years 2, 3, and 4."  Sure.

Sotiredofitall
Sotiredofitall topcommenter

I'd like to request a follow-up to know how this turns out and if the allegations are true.

MattL11
MattL11

Suing based on your kid not getting more playing time may seem like a ridiculous thing to do, but if these allegations are true, I'm not sure taking some sort of legal action is so ridiculous. 

Greg820
Greg820

What Would Archer Do?

joeinbost
joeinbost

@noblefurrtexas  Or  the Whole Texas BAR  get swindled by  a lawyer file a complaint with the Dallas Bar for Unlawful Practice of Law , they find out the person who swindled me was a Lawyer, but they then protected his Felon ass  (selling property with a lien on it is a FELONY) claiming his right to do it under RULE 12. Noble  remember you live in a City where the power structure is PROUD that they KILLED a President 

dc005
dc005

@joeinbost I don't understand.  Please,  tell us how you REALLY feel ....

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Karmawillcom4U

Why run this story, why not wait til its over with?

That's not the way it works, it's public record.

Remember the Duke lacrosse team rape case? Remember the "Group of 88"?

To my knowledge, not one of the group of 88 bigoted asshole professors ever so much as burped an apology for their actions.

Something about lacrosse just sets off class-warrior types.

Kinda like how, within hours, notable lefty a-holes had declared Sarah Palin responsible for the Gabby Giffords shooting. No apologies there either.

DallasGirl648
DallasGirl648

@twocentsworth  


Many (but not all) lacrosse coaches get paid UP THE WAZOO not $5/hour. More like $500/hr. I wish I was kidding.


And it is only "recently" that they started the "home zone" thing due to the chaos going on at THSLL (Texas High School Lacrosse League).


Also I suggest you read this:

http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/03/27/66521.htm


Neither parties are that innocent.


Of course take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt.

boilerjoe_96
boilerjoe_96

@twocentsworth Correct only during the spring/school season... and thus Little johnny sat the bench for making the coach mad and couldn't do anything about it(like go play for another spring season team).  Also agree he could play summer lax where ever he wanted, and that's why, per the article he sat the bench during the spring.

kjhwk
kjhwk

@MattL11  if the coaches are doing this and not giving the kids a fair chance? I imagine you would feel different if it had happened to you

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas

@joeinbost @noblefurrtexas The power structure in Dallas didn't have anything to do with Kennedy's murder.  It was done by a Communist from New Orleans, and likely with the help of the Mob and/or others, yet Dallas still unfairly bore some of the shame. 

A previous generation of our own family was swindled by an unscrupulous lawyer, and his preying on widows on the death of their spouses before the deceased could even be buried.

But, I also know a number of fine people who are ethical lawyers and judges, who take the oath of office seriously. 

Karmawillcome4u
Karmawillcome4u

@TheRuddSki  If this his Muncks second lawsuit against them (Result of the first?) and he loses, should DLA sue him for something along the lines of defamation? Should he be disbarred for misconduct.   one would think but since he owns his own law firm probably not.  

MattL11
MattL11

@kjhwk @MattL11  I think you need to re-read my comment. I agree completely that if that's what the coaches are doing, it's complete bullshit and they should be made to suffer the consequences. 

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas

@joeinbost @noblefurrtexasThere's a substantial difference between being glad Kennedy was assassinated and being glad he was no longer president.  Many people may not be able to distinguish the two, but had he resigned instead of being murdered over the Bay of Pigs, many in Dallas would have celebrated. 


However, the "power structure" in Dallas was stunned and horribly shamed that a president was murdered in our city, despite incredible security measures to protect him, and the thrill of many elected officials that he was here.


I still wish the Secret Service had overturned JFK's decision to ride through Dallas without the bubble on the limo. History would be quite different.

joeinbost
joeinbost

@noblefurrtexas @joeinbost  NOT  John Brian Williams of the Court of Law in Rockwall County   VERY CORRUPT  Love to see them send his widow the bill for the Bullet 

joeinbost
joeinbost

@noblefurrtexas @joeinbost  or a corrupt  CIA agent from Houston (born in Milton MA)   a 40 yo who can not tell you where he was when Kennedy got Shot. I lived in Dallas and I hear a History Professor at SMU say that 11/22/63 was the finest day in Dallas' History  quote "It was the day we ended his Reign."


joeinbost
joeinbost

@TheCredibleHulk @joeinbost @dc005  Beware  Scot Cockroft of VR Business Group. and Heritage Church in Rowlett  (CHRISTIANS ARE SCUM) Sid Murphy a Lawyer and a LIAR  and Judge Brian Williams  a Corrupt  buy able Judge 

joeinbost
joeinbost

@paulpsycho78 @dc005 @joeinbost  Paul  no 15 K to the Lawyer and another 20 K to the Judge  If I had a Choose between trail in Tehran or Dallas  I would pick Tehran Iran at least the Judges and Lawyers there live by a Moral code 

paulpsycho78
paulpsycho78

@dc005 @joeinbost unless you have 15k for a half way decent lawyer, you might as well call the plumber to roto root your ass after you gave a lawyer 5K to literally do nothing stare at his blackberry while your asking him questions and if he does answer say "dont worry about it"

TheCredibleHulk
TheCredibleHulk topcommenter

@joeinbost @dc005  

In my experience, most folks that get swindled are willing, if not outright enthusiastic about helping their swindler con them. They do this by buying into something that looks too good to be true, believing something that their better natures would have them question a little more closely if there weren't some inordinately large compensation attached to some otherwise less profitable process or product.

This is not to say that all lawyers are corrupt, but lawyers make the rules and lawyers interpret the rules - best to have no business association at all with lawyers, if you can avoid it.

My best advice to you is, if it sounds too good to be true, it is too good to be true.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Karmawillcome4u

Maybe they could and should counter-sue, but it's a bit early in the process to make a guess. His suit likely doesn't meet disbarment level, no matter the position in his firm.

But, it being lacrosse, no matter what happens, the class warriors will be pissed because lacrosse.

TheCredibleHulk
TheCredibleHulk topcommenter

@Greg820 @TheCredibleHulk  

Like a "hand-y".

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