The World Needs More Old White Guys like WFAA's Dale Hansen

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Dale Hansen, the way I think he and I both kind of look today, sort of. You think?
OK, I guess I need to come out on this. I have kind of a crush on WFAA Channel 8 sports-casting dean Dale Hansen. No, not that kind. I don't really do those anymore anyway.

No, I'm stuck on Hansen because I think he's a role model for us old white guys, and we need a role model right now other than the Duck Dynasty guy. Hansen is that other.

Forget his politics. I can't tell. Don't care. Every once in a while Hansen exploits the throne he occupies as the reigning sports guy of our region and unleashes a volley of thunderbolts. I don't agree with every bolt. I just like the storm. If you've got a throne like his, and it is a big one, then you should put it to some meaningful use once in a while, and he does.

Monday night he did a tirade on the football player who came out as gay. It was so spot-on, I don't even want to paraphrase, so I cobbed the whole thing straight from the WFAA site. You should go watch. It was even better live.

It was quite a weekend.

That little dust-up in Lubbock Saturday night, and then on Sunday, Missouri's All-American defensive end Michael Sam -- the SEC's defensive player of the year and expected to be a third to fifth-round pick in the NFL draft -- tells the world he's gay.

The best defensive player in college football's best conference only a third to fifth round NFL pick? Really? That is shocking, and I guess that other thing is, too.

Michael Sam would be the first openly gay player in the NFL; says he knows there will be problems ... and they've already started.

Several NFL officials are telling Sports Illustrated it will hurt him on draft day because a gay player wouldn't be welcome in an NFL locker room. It would be uncomfortable, because that's a man's world.

You beat a woman and drag her down a flight of stairs, pulling her hair out by the roots? You're the fourth guy taken in the NFL draft.

You kill people while driving drunk? That guy's welcome.

Players caught in hotel rooms with illegal drugs and prostitutes? We know they're welcome.

Players accused of rape and pay the woman to go away?

You lie to police trying to cover up a murder?

We're comfortable with that.

You love another man? Well, now you've gone too far!

It wasn't that long ago when we were being told that black players couldn't play in "our" games because it would be "uncomfortable." And even when they finally could, it took several more years before a black man played quarterback.

Because we weren't "comfortable" with that, either.

So many of the same people who used to make that argument (and the many who still do) are the same people who say government should stay out of our lives.

But then want government in our bedrooms.

I've never understood how they feel "comfortable" laying claim to both sides of that argument.

I'm not always comfortable when a man tells me he's gay; I don't understand his world.

But I do understand that he's part of mine.

Civil rights activist Audre Lord said: "It is not our differences that divide us. It's our inability to recognize, accept and celebrate those differences."

We've always been able to recognize 'em. Some of us accept 'em.

And I want to believe that there will be a day when we do celebrate 'em.

I don't know if that day's here yet. I guess we're about to find out.

But when I listen to Michael Sam, I do think it's time to celebrate him now.


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J_A_
J_A_

Well said, Dale.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

A promising article, with the potential for a really engaging comment thread.


Hijacked, by two egotistical know-it-all's and an insane cat-lady.  All and sundry were roped into the melee. Glad I took most of the week off from UP.

just_enjoyin
just_enjoyin

For what it is worth... and I don't care to hear your opinions of my opinion... I thought the article was pretty spot on... From a gray headed (conservative) old guy, "Now go to bed boys and girls!"

Catbird
Catbird

So JJ should draft him in the first.

shug
shug

Im not sure if people are really this slow or just ingnorant. Michael Sam isnt trying to use his sexuality to get into the NFL. Hes not using it to get publicity. If that was the case he would have done it long before now especially since everyone around him already knew he was gay. Its as simple as "let me tell you about me before somebody else tries to tell you about me". Thats all it is. When these college athletes get close to the draft, reporters dig all in their backgrounds to find out whatever they can. Im sure somebody couldnt hold it in and exposed Sam's sexuality to somebody digging for information. Therefore instead of letting them make a name for themselves by exposing him, he chose to tell the world himself.  Oh and nobody is celebrating homosexuality. Everytime i hear somebody say this, it makes me think that they must have a really low I.Q. What everybody is celebrating is courage. Duh! Courage to be somewhere and do something when closed minded people and religious nuts dont even think you should exist. We're celebrating the courage that it takes to stand up for yourself and not let other people make you feel like you're less than them because you dont believe what they believe. The celebration is because despite all the tactics that have been used hatred is losing ground. For those that want to talk about sin... you should really think about that the next time you're eating pork, shrimp, wearing clothes with mixed fabric, having sex outside of marriage or filing divorce papers.  Dont condemn one "sin" when you commit a slew of them every single day!

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

It's funny how the folks who complained that this ball player is some kind of "victim" because he's gay, went so completely bonkers when the fact that nobody's victimizing him was brought up.

It just serves to underscore my point - that seeking publicity for his sexual choices is a distraction from the real issue - his ability to play the game.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

Let's see, in the NFL, players committing crimes such as: murder, rape, assault, abuse, drugs and animal abuse is acceptable, but homosexuality, not so much.


Got it.

Americano
Americano

There are plenty of old white guys like Dale Hanson.  The left vilifies them unless they are serving a specific purpose.

ruddski
ruddski

Another among the many issues with thus software - replies don't seem properly nested. An @ruddski could refer to any of several of my replies in a particular response thread.

Also, clicking the Reply button would automatically include the @xxxxxx, now it has to be manually entered, and the @is not a live link

I don't know if this is particular to the iPad 4, or just me, or what, but just thought I'd get my 4 cents in.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

Ok DO, comments keep just randomly disappearing. Whats going on,  I know 1 of mine on this post is gone and at least 3 or 4 of other that I read are gone, poof, vanished.  Usually if they are deleted by a user, it says "comment deleted"  

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

Schutze and Hansen: Not always right (in the moral sense), but when they're right, they're really, really right.

ruddski
ruddski

It's odd that some people react to Hansen's evolution in regards to gays with hostility because he evidently didn't follow some set timeline or method.

I'm curious if they had the same hostility towards Obama's "evolving" on the issue.

It's ok to consider Hanson a blowhard or doofus, but geez, why the hostility to his expressions towards the gay ball player?

shawn4848
shawn4848

 HOMOSEXUALITY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN SPORTS...IN THE NFL...AND ALLOWED AND ACCEPTED IN THE WORLD. HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SICK, IMMORAL AND SINFUL CHOSEN LIFESTYLE. SIN SHOULD NOT BE PRAISED...SHOULD NOT BE ACCEPTED AND IN NO WAY IS SIN EVER COURAGEOUS....

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@shug

It's funny that you say his press release is NOT about getting publicity.

It's even funnier that you say that *everybody* is celebrating his courage.

It's like you're trying to cram as many wrong things into one paragraph as you possibly can.

justtheJAKEster
justtheJAKEster

@bvckvs  I think in a more just world, and certainly in our future, you'd be right; that the only "real" issue would be how the guy plays the game. We just don't exist in that world just yet.  


I've followed the news of Sam's decision to come out as gay relatively close and I'm unaware of any serious journalist or publisher or LGBT activist group or individual, etc label him a victim.  And any behavior rising to either levels of ridiculousness or shamefulness to warrant the bonkers label seems to be coming from either mis-informed, mis-communicated, or mis-guided remarks from actors from within either the NFL or ESPN environments (like Herm Edwards claiming Sam is "bringing baggage" to whichever team he's drafted onto during SportsNight on Sunday).  But crying foul over folks calling him a victim is a straw man argument; no one is calling Sam a victim.


Sam was out to his team at Mizzou since the summer, apparently, and with the draft approaching scouts are digging even deeper into the personal lives of these athletes.  An entire team of college-aged men somehow kept this secret for months- but reporting shows that the rumors had quietly started bubbling up regarding Sam's sexual orientation. Rather then being outed, he took control of his life and future and came out on his own terms, knowing that he would be breaking another barrier for gay folk as the likely first openly gay active player in the NFL. How is that seeking publicity?  Hell, quite opposite, when he came out to his college teammates months ago he didn't seek publicity, it was only after his hand was effectively forced.


It shouldn't matter that he is gay, and hopefully soon enough we'll learn in fact that t it doesn't matter in the NFL.  But hiding from the issue, sweeping it under the rug, ignoring homophobic taunts from locker-rooms and overall "locker-room culture", or looking the other way when one player calls another player a faggot doesn't help anyone involved, least of which the NFL which is already trying to put out fires of its own making on several other fronts.  

ruddski
ruddski

No, he just breaks just like a little girl.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@Americano  I'm on the Left, and I've never vilified old White guys... unless they're misogynistic, homophobic louts.

J_A_
J_A_

@ruddski  It does that when I'm on my phone vs a computer.

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

@ScottsMerkin Don't you know these interwebtubes are haunted? We talked about that the other day. I'm pretty sure. Wait, let me think...

ruddski
ruddski

Could be that brown acid. You were warned!

Seriously though, you're seeing others' posts disappear as well?

noahmusicman2
noahmusicman2

@shawn4848 why is it that you religious people can't turn caps lock off? it isnt hard.....ON....off....simple.....and considering your magical book of fairy tales considers it a sin to wear clothes made of two different fabrics a sin it doesn't make it sound all that sensible really hey?     

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@shawn4848  Ladies and Gentleman I present to you the perfect First Baptist Church Dallas member.  Robert Jeffress would be proud

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@justtheJAKEster @bvckvs

You said it all in that first sentence; the part about "in a more just world".  No matter what you do, someone's going to hate you for it and someone else will love you for it.  That was as true a thousand years ago as it is today, and as it will be a thousand years from now.
I get that, for some people, it takes courage to stand up and be counted, rather than to cower behind shame and anonymity. But this is a values issue for me.  By my values, there's nothing courageous about being open and honest about who you are.
Similarly, by my values, seeking publicity for his sexual choices as a way to get an NFL team to hire him is just sleazy.  It's no different than when Teabow tried to get football teams to hire him for his religious beliefs, instead of his mediocre performance on the job.

It sends up a great, big, red flag that his football career will be more about his sexuality, than about his football skills.




ruddski
ruddski

Here's my reply.

Do you see the @myrna that is not there?

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@Montemalone I thought so, but I went looking and couldn't find it. (cues the ghost music)

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@ruddski  well well at one point there were 97 comments, then I come back and there were only 85, and I know 1 of mine was gone

ruddski
ruddski

Accusations that Shawn is Ruddski in 3... 2...

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@bvckvs @justtheJAKEster  Coming out as gay is not going to help him get drafted.  Why you think that can only be found in your fucked up mind.  He was the best defensive player in the best conference in college football and GM's are already anonymously saying he wont get drafted.

ruddski
ruddski

You just haven't tried the right recipe

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@ScottsMerkin  It was not, you rotten pig.  Oregano, cumin, serranos, and black beans in my chili make it far better than any of the chazzerei slop they call Texas chili.

ruddski
ruddski

I suspect some of these over-the-top CAPRANTS are false-flag.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@ruddski  no I think Shawn is ALL caps racist granny fucker that used to come here

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