Trying to Worry about Voter ID. Trying. Trying. Nope. Still Not Worrying.

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... but on her voter registration card, her name is Janice Simple. So is that too picayune?
My fellow libtards, I am trying to hang with you on the voter ID issue, and I want to hang with you, and I will hang with you if I can, but I have to admit that It's getting hard to hang with you.

Yesterday The Dallas Morning News had a big story about the county election administrator sending out letters to people whose names on their driver's licenses differed from those on their voter registration cards, offering them a way to decide on one name or the other.

Yeah, I got one of those myself. The News described the issue as a "partisan debate." I kind of thought of it like, "Jim, it's time for you to decide what your name is."

The question is whether people have the same name on their photo IDs as on their voter registration cards as required by new elections laws. This came up in the election last November. If your name was different, you had to sign some piece of paper. I did that, I think, and my memory is that it took about two seconds. The letter sent out by the county this week gives you a chance to change your name on your registration card so you won't have to sign the piece of paper.

And let me be perfectly frank. Last November when I went to vote, I was hoping some Republican vote-suppressing 1-percenter would be outside the polling place whopping Democrats with his polo mallet so I could grab his nose with my Carex 26-inch EZ-Grabber Reaching Aid and have us a good-old fashioned polling place donnybrook. But to my disappointment, everything went smooth as silk.

That's the thing. We libtards predicted that photo ID laws would disenfranchise all of the non-wealthy. Last election, I didn't see a single soul lose his franchise. Before the election when this was being debated, it really pissed me off to hear Republicans say things like, "People have to have their pictures on their driver's licenses, and that doesn't seem to keep them from driving." After the election I thought, "You know, I've had my picture on my driver's license all these years, and it never kept me from driving."

Same thing with having to choose your name. My discrepancy was small. On my voting card I had a "Sr" after my name. You know: for "Sir." But I did not have one on my driver's license. Maybe that seems picayune. But once you have a law saying your name has to be the same, how else do you want to handle it? Are we going to have a picayune name judge at every polling place and all kinds of debates going on about how many names people are allowed to have?

"No, sir, you don't understand. These two names are essentially the same, because Kraniztco actually means Smith in Latvian."

Now you're anti-Latvian.

After the state's first photo ID election, the consensus around the state was that there had been barely enough trouble among voters adjusting to the new law to justify a trouble-among-voters-adjusting story.

Of course that hasn't stopped anybody from hoping for trouble, including one website, thinkprogress.org, which has done its own math and derived the precise amount of delay that current laws will cause by the year 2016. Six hours.

"If it takes just two minutes to process each voter required to sign an affidavit," the website states, "that's a total of about 4,500 hours of delays spread across Dallas County's precincts -- or more than 6 months worth of wasted time! Admittedly, that time will be spread across each of Dallas County's 774 voting precincts, but 4,500 hours of delay divided by 774 precincts equals almost six hours of delay per precinct."

True. But what if it only takes two seconds? Or what if everybody already has the same name on both ID cards and we all get to the polls way ahead of time with lots of time to kill, but then we find out that's the day for the End Times? Shoot!

As I said at the start, I want to stand with my peeps on this one and worry about it and predict disaster and find some kind of larger theme in it. But I just took the Sr off the end of my name on the voting card, because ... I don't know. Life may actually be too short for this one.


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rusknative
rusknative

Janice Sample voted 1,467 times last election in Dallas County.

John1073
John1073

No more need to worry. We figured it out. You can vote by mail if you claim a disability, which under the election law of Texas doesn't specify what that disability is nor can they come to your home and check. So until Greg Abbott (poster child for the disabled) wants to disenfranchise the disabled, we're golden.

Guesty
Guesty

Politics has become more about inventing imaginary problems to justify imaginary solutions that cater to your base.  Because solving real problems is hard.  Inventing imaginary solutions to imaginary problems is easy.


So, Republicans invent a problem of massive voter fraud caused by illegals being driven around in busses from polling place to polling place and pretending to be people they are not, all somehow without with out ever having been caught.  Having invented the problem, the solution is easy, make voters show a picture ID.  No problem is solved, but the redneck racists who believe only a communist illegal alien would vote for a black or brown person, and thus the mere fact that such people are elected is evidence of massive fraud, suddenly feels like there are politicians who "understand" the real problems they are facing.


Enter the Democrats (full disclosure, I am one, give them money, etc.).  We can't just let a good wedge issue go without using it to our advantage.  So we divert money that could be used helping the people we say are going to be disenfranchised get IDs (IDs that incidentally would benefit them in other ways as well), we use that money to suggest massive voter disenfranchisement to whip up our base into a frenzy.  Because solving real problems is hard and its far better to maximize the public exposure of this wedge issue for fundraising than it is to mitigate the harm. 



Sidewalk
Sidewalk

Republicans hoped the voter ID law would keep women and minorities from voting in numbers, because why else pass into law for problem that wasn't there. There have been no major headlines about voter fraud anywhere. In the long run it will backfire on them because it will invigorate the opposition to register more people on their side and will make sure they have a photo ID. Demographics will win over tricks sooner or later. What I don't like is that Republicans are such pussys and cowards to man up to their real intent on passing the voting ID law. Too bad it isn't going to work for them.

Americano
Americano

If Voter ID is a problem, then let's just ban all ID's.  Open a Bank Account?  No ID.  Buy a car or house?  No ID.  Cash a check?  No ID.  What could possibly go wrong?

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

Interesting.  First Jim sides with an alleged corporate shill of a DISD superintendent, because, of all things, Jim thinks this guy's changes might work.


Now, Jim finds no fault with a Republican-led Voter ID initiative because, of all things, he finds out it isn't the hobgoblin program he was told it would be by the liberal establishment.


I don't know about all yall, but my Doomsday Prepping has just shifted into high gear.

MikeWestEast
MikeWestEast

Every adult in 21st Century should have a state ID.  This program facilitates the process.  We talk about all the barriers hurting ability of people to participate in society and how we need to proactively solve them.  I would think having no document from a state or Fed agency with your picture as a reference would be a huge barrier.  You cannot work, travel, get credit or get government benefits without it.  If it was not tied to Voter ID, a Republican program, progressives would likely be demanding it.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

Voting is important.  Voting is one of those things that people get shooty over.  (You know, the whole, "no taxation without representation" thing has representation right in it.)  Vote fraud is, at the end of the day, the same as taking away someone's vote.  When we belittle it, it puts us closer to shooty time.  This is a Bad Thing.


So -- if there really isn't a vote fraud problem, then it is in the interests of the libt-s (It's the subject of discussion, but like the n- word, I'll leave it to Jim to use it unabbreviated)  to go along with voter ID.  Get programs in place to make sure everyone, no matter how poor, who is eligible to vote can get a photo ID, and then go with it.


To oppose it when it is workable makes the people calling for it think that vote fraud is a big deal, and that it does happen all the time.  They are easy to disprove -- if this is in for a major election or two and nothing is different, then it is easy to say that we don't need it.  But to oppose it so vehemently when it is obviously not a serious impediment implies heavily that there is something to hide.

jmckee3
jmckee3

"We libtards predicted that photo ID laws would disenfranchise all of the non-wealthy."


No, we predicted the photo ID laws would disenfranchise the poor and or elderly. I don't know what the DO pays you or your overall compensation package but I assume that it allows you to take most weekends off or at very least the occasional personal day to go to the DMV and doesn't involve you working multiple jobs just to keep your head above water.

ruddski
ruddski

Wait 'till Jim finds out Obamacare sucks, and he was cruelly and cynically lied to, again.

James080
James080

Democrats and Republicans wouldn't be happy if they weren't outraged about something. Voter ID is the current non-issue for the left.


Most of the Obamacare state insurance exchanges require photo ID to sign up for your free or subsidized insurance. The federal government requires you to present a photo ID to board an airliner. Where is the outrage?


Democrats aren't whining about photo ID voting laws because the new laws disenfranchise poor/minority/democrat voters. They are whining and suing because they need a wedge issue to justify subjecting southern (red) states to per-clearance restrictions of federal voting rights laws (which the Supreme court recently tossed out).

RichGans
RichGans

I've seen it done... it actually takes about 10-15 minutes for the affidavit thing, not two. 

marcbloch44
marcbloch44

Looks like you've definitely secured a renewal of your gadfly registration card.

tdkisok
tdkisok

"Last election, I didn't see a single soul lose his franchise. "


I didn't see Kennedy get assassinated, doesn't mean it didn't happen.  

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

Why vote if it doesn't count?

HeywoodUBuzzoff
HeywoodUBuzzoff

Carex 26-inch EZ-Grabber?  I thought you would for sure go with the 32-inch grabber as it would allow you to stand taller thus making it easier to look down our nose on everyone. 

Rumpunch1
Rumpunch1

I really don't think either side dealt with the voter issues with this plan.  Domingo Garcia never asked dead people to show up at the polls without ID.  He just had them mail it in. 


The only real issue with the ID law was the Medrano's being forced to actually change all of the extended family's address to match the late Pancho Medrano's little house they all claim as their voter address.

lecterman
lecterman

"But to my disappointment, everything went smooth as silk."

It's because you are a white male Jim.  They assume you are voting "with them" because this is Texas.

If you were a woman/minority both, things might have been different.



TheCredibleHulk
TheCredibleHulk topcommenter

@Guesty  

“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.”


― Groucho Marx

ruddski
ruddski

I dunno what's funnier - that leftists hide behind and use women and children and "minorities" who are actually majorities so cynically, or that they think they're fooling anyone.

ruddski
ruddski

If you accept an incorrect license issued by the DMV, you're the problem.

ruddski
ruddski

Women, children and minorities have none of those things you cite, because, according to their leftist saviors, they're hopelessly incompetent.

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

@RTGolden1  


No matter what I say, it seems like I can't lose for winning.

ruddski
ruddski

I think the issue is the inability of some people to obtain an ID because of poverty, insurmountable distance to a ID-producing facility, or lack of BC.

Unlike other problems of poverty or distance, such as food and health care delivery, lack of ID is unsolvable by volunteer or GOTV efforts, because the victims are of color, women, or women of color.

rusknative
rusknative

@jmckee3 How do you know that the poor and elderly do not PREFER to be disenfranchised rather than subjected to your liberal management?

libtard_apologist
libtard_apologist

I know lots of elderly people and all of them have photo ID even if they don't drive. Some of them are even... gasp... POOR PEOPLE!

How they accomplished the amazing, almost impossible feat of being poor, elderly, and in possession of a photo ID is a total mystery to me, libtard.

wcvemail
wcvemail

@jmckee3 Name one real person who has not been able to obtain an acceptable ID because that person was not able to take off from his/her multiple jobs. Name one real person, not just a possible theorem. Then let's ask that real person how in the wide, wide world of sports that person was able to secure those jobs without an acceptable ID.

and the breeze blows quietly...

wcvemail
wcvemail

@RichGans Then we're all doomed, obviously. Western civilization's magnificent trail of democracy, stretching back to the Greeks, will come to a screeching, apocalyptic halt in those 10-15 minutes.

wcvemail
wcvemail

@lecterman "Might have" never lifted a single bale or toted a single box, or disenfranchised a single person.

jarw
jarw

@lecterman  or if you are a white guy voting in a minority neighborhood.  That's the only place we have seen voter intimidation in decades.

donoley
donoley

@ruddski They can't find the time to get an id but they have the time to call the newspaper and tell how disenfranchised they are.


MikeWestEast
MikeWestEast

@ruddski What is unsolvable about it?  The volunteer helps the person write a letter asking for a birth certificate.  How do they get government food benefits, other than a bag of food at a soup kitchen, and healthcare without an ID?  How do they make any progress out of poverty?  Get in a training program?  It would seem to be a top priority of any volunteer looking beyond the immediate need of next 2 hours regardless of connection to voting.

wcvemail
wcvemail

@libtard_apologist  But wait, there's more: there are real people who are poor, elderly, possess a photo ID, AND don't need to be told how to fill out a government form by government-sponsored navigators. 

becoolerifyoudid
becoolerifyoudid

@mcdallas @tdkisok I think people are just trying modifications of Godwin's law.  I give this a solid "B" effort for giving it some local flavor.

leftocenter
leftocenter

Thanks to the folks we send to Washington, EVERYONE is laughing at us...all the time...

ruddski
ruddski

All good points. Maybe it's solvable, I hope so. It's very embarrassing for texans to be laughed at by UN inspectors.

wcvemail
wcvemail

@ruddski Jim Wright is still driving himself?

That reminds me of the simple questions I'd like to ask every contender for high office if I were in a town hall mtg: "Do you carry your own wallet? If Yes, would you take it out of your pocket or purse and hold it up (since politicians can't be trusted)?"

Those high-faluters just don't live in our world any more.

ruddski
ruddski

After a vote is cast, how do you spot the fraud? How about counties which have voter registrations equalling well over 100% of the voting-age population? Want links?

Progressives are going to have to drag themselves into the 21st century sooner or later.

baker24
baker24

@tdkisok @ruddski According to several studies if voter fraud, almost all the voter fraud that does exist (as a tiny % of the total vote count) involves mail-in or absentee ballots, not the actual physical voting at a polling place. Having a photo ID is irrelevant in that situation, but that is where the problem, as small as it is, really lies. 

ruddski
ruddski

All my links are from right-wing sources, so why bother?

ruddski
ruddski

It doesn't exist, except where it does!

tdkisok
tdkisok

@ruddski  


Yeah and where is this massive amount of voter fraud?


ruddski
ruddski

The reason we don't see or hear from the tens of thousands of disenfranchisees is the same reason they can't get ID -they're cut off from civilization.

But they're there. How do we know? Republicans in Texas keep winning elections!

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