Baptists Are Seriously Discussing Robert Jeffress' Claim that Obama's Paving the Way for the Antichrist

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When First Baptist's Robert Jeffress proclaimed a couple of weeks back that President Obama is "paving the way for the antichrist," we dismissed it as a publicity stunt designed to sell copies of his new book on the end times.

Not everyone was so quick to call Jeffress' claim empty bombast. Take this Christian Post piece from over the weekend in which a reporter, apparently keeping a straight face, asks two Baptist biblical scholars -- or rather as the headline suggests "experts" on the Obama-antichrist link -- to weigh in on the controversy.

Darrell Bock, a professor at Dallas Theological Seminary, offers a slight rebuke to Jeffress, saying that while "believers are to keep watch and be alert" for the second coming of Christ and all that will entail, the timing is unknowable.

See also: First Baptist's Robert Jeffress: Obama "Paving the Way for the Antichrist"

He points out that the U.S. is mentioned nowhere in the Bible and that previous attempts to prophesy the end times have, well, failed.

The second expert, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary president Paige Patterson, is less cautious. Though he tells the Christian Post that "Identifying specific politicians with the antichrist of the last days is clearly absurd," Jeffress is generally on point.

"The rapid expansion of the powers of government and the growing dependency on the welfare state set the stage for the antichrist, since that is precisely what he is forecast to do," he says. "Dr. Jeffress is not personally attacking President Obama. He is simply attempting to explain to his people what is to happen next."

Indeed, his reference to a specific political figure aside, Jeffress' is bread-and-butter Baptism. Here's what the Southern Baptist Convention has in its statement of faith under the heading "Last Things":

God, in His own time and in His own way, will bring the world to its appropriate end. According to His promise, Jesus Christ will return personally and visibly in glory to the earth; the dead will be raised; and Christ will judge all men in righteousness. The unrighteous will be consigned to Hell, the place of everlasting punishment. The righteous in their resurrected and glorified bodies will receive their reward and will dwell forever in Heaven with the Lord.

There are competing interpretations of how that will come to pass, but no one can say for certain that Obama isn't paving the way for the antichrist.

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vanfaux
vanfaux

If God is All-Knowing, then this whole conversation is moot. Because if he does, he already knows who are the "believers" and who isn't. If God is All-Loving and Compassionate then why in the world would he send his creations to a burning pit to suffer forever? If this is true, then he is neither all-loving nor compassionate. You, Mr. Jeffress, are like so many others selling a product, that has no value and is a placebo, at best.  I do not need a personal god to be an ethical, moral, or compassionate human being; I had a wonderful mother who taught me these things. She also taught me not to judge another person's personal spiritual path. 


Mr Jefress, it is your choice to live by your God's word, but it is not your job to condemn any of us who do not believe exactly as you do. 

hectorhenry22
hectorhenry22

Diversity is a code word for less White People.

Nobody says an Asian country that is 100% Asian needs more diversity.

Nobody says an African country that is 100% Black needs more diversity.

Anti-Whites claim “anti-racism” and demand diversity for White countries and ONLY White countries. They say it’s Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, but White countries for EVERYBODY?

DalTex52
DalTex52

I am constantly amazed that people believe this kind of thing.  God gave you a brain.  Use it.

dtx75216
dtx75216

This "preacher" which I don't consider him to be is a moron. He has stirred more hate and bitterness than anyone in a long time. It's not just this latest crazy comment that I say that. The God I know and serve does not judge and call out such false lies. I'm not sure who he thinks he is but when it comes judgement day I don't want to be standing beside him.

He is a disgrace to Christians all over the world. The sad thing is the "sheep" that follow him would "drink the kool aide"

scott8279423
scott8279423

People from all around the world consider Obama as "The One" and as the savior of the world.He is worshiped by many and if anyone even compares him to the "Anti-Christ" then they are attacked and called crazy.The bible states that the anti-christ will mock Gods Laws and make new laws "Gay Marriage" and that he will attack Christians (Calling Fundamental Christians mentally ill) and that he will have a partner "The False Prophet" help him.The Pope has also went against Gods Laws by being Pro-Gay and he also called Christians "Mentally ill".So it would seem that something is going on and they will fool many.

justabil
justabil

"the" antichrist doesn't exist. "Anyone who is not for Christ is anti-christ". There's not "the" about it; all the made up prophecies don't follow the bible any closer than The Bible Code or other astrologies.

libtard_apologist
libtard_apologist

Christians are stupid and so are libtard propagandist bloggers like Eric Nicholson.

rusknative
rusknative

I think that Obama is already Married to the Antichrist.

Americano
Americano

Some people worship God, some people worship Obama.

txtopnotch
txtopnotch

The only anti-Christ is Jeffress.  And those who are stupid enough to believe him.

lecterman
lecterman

Is there any way we can expedite this whole rapture thing so all these guys will go away and we can make way for the beast?



tlims3
tlims3

President Obama has claimed to be a Christian and is part of the body of Christ and this man is calling Obama's salvation void and claims he's paving the way for the anti-Christ witch is degrading the body of Christ. Now who is really paving the way for the anti-Christ? The anti-Christ is overjoyed at Jeffers saying this, so who is really working with the anti-Christ?





bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

There's nothing surprising about this to anyone familiar with the Evangelical Republican community.

The things they say may sound crazy to normal, decent folks - but they take that crap very, very seriously.


ozonelarryb
ozonelarryb

I think we need to mike him up for a week to get the real geyser of guano that he might spout.

Just-Sharon
Just-Sharon

To follow this concept, the Christianista's should be loving Obama as he moving up the time to where they can move on up (even more that The Jefferson's ever did) to Heaven and walk on streets "paved with gold", where they will no longer be in pain and see ALL there previously deceased friends. 


PLUS, since it is END times all their local Xtian buds will be movin' on up at the same time. So they have EVERY thing to look forward to and NOTHING to be pissed about.  It would be like someone telling me that Dick Cheney was going to give me 25 billion tomorrow.... I would love him.


So celebrate Obama for getting everyone a job. 

marina_j
marina_j

Some people come from a place of "pretend-a-world" non-logic instead of reality. I am happy to know that those in that category are decreasing by the day as the ignorant die off and are replaced by more enlightened individuals.

kduble
kduble

Power clearly corrupts. But, to in any way compare our flawed republic with the brutal regimes known to people in the first century BC, military dictatorships in which autocrats married their sisters, murdered their own brothers, and nailed political opponents onto trees to bleed to death while crows picked out their eyes.... The fact Jeffress can write this nonsense, and people can legally buy it, even with their plastic cards, with no concern for their safety whatsoever.... it's all so crazy. It's pathetic, too. That Jeffress lacks the language skills to take opposition to the government in a way that would rally the populace and bring about change, but instead must resort to this rubbish. It's really too much right now.


I mean, I disagree with the government all the time, and I state my reasons for doing so. I don't feel a need to make up horse shit to do it.

ruddski
ruddski

What's the difference between Jeffers and the rubes who made videos of devotion and praise before Obama was even elected? Seems they just see him as different kinds of Angel/God, flip side of the coin.

ruddski
ruddski

What's the difference between Jeffers and the rubes who made videos of devotion and praise before Obama was even elected? Seems they just see him as different kinds of Angel/God.

smichaelclark591
smichaelclark591

As described in the BIBLE Jeffress would be the Anti Christ himself.

Sotiredofitall
Sotiredofitall topcommenter

Bob Dobbs is becoming displeased, Mr Jeffress - beware his wrath

auntiecairo
auntiecairo

Translation - there's a black man in the White House --

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

This whackjob pissant sure does bait the clickers to Unfair Park.

Ya'll should just give him his own page. A live blog of all the batshit shit he's constantly spewing.

Probably get a breastaurant to sponsor it.

dc005
dc005

Everybody around during the 70's recalls Henry Kissinger was the AC.  Pastor Criswell said so. 

smichaelclark591
smichaelclark591

If you are a true Christian why would you be afraid of the Ant-Christ.  You know that is the only way to salvation.  The Ant-Christ must come first.  Why would a Christian try to stop the Anti-Christ?

scott8279423
scott8279423

@dtx75216  All he said is that with Obama getting re-elected after he went against Gods Laws,will make it easy for a antichrist to get elected.Cause if u read Revelations then u would see that the antichrist is able to go againt gods laws and still be loved and inpowered by the people.But if anyone even disagrees with Obama,yall attack them.Which pretty much proves his point

scott8279423
scott8279423

And FYI,I'm not saying anyone is anyone and I am also not attacking Gay People.I am just showing u why people are comparing them to the Anti-Christ and to the False Prophet.And they are according to the bible,full-feeling prophey's one after the other.So you cant blame people who believe in the bible for comparing the two.If their right then so be it and if your right then we will be living in a peaceful world with one religion.So whats the harm?

tlims3
tlims3

@rusknative Do you even know what the antichrist is? I don't think you do.

paulpsycho78
paulpsycho78

@Americano "Men are stupid, women are stupider"  thanks dr. phil jack off wannabe, got anymore generic duck dynasty pearls of wisdom for us, fucking moron

xempyreum
xempyreum

@bvckvs  


If it wasn't for white Christians with guns, we would all be speaking German today, Chuck Schumer and Michael Bloomberg would be a pair of lampshades...

Die jüdischen Bankiers sind überschwemmen Europa mit Muslimen und Amerika mit Dritte-Welt-Papierkorb.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@marina_jJust because people are becoming more plugged in, doesn't necessarily mean they're becoming more enlightened.  The ignorant are just as present today as they ever were, the 'enlightened' are just as insufferable in their arrogance as they ever were, and modern digital technology has made it increasingly more difficult to distinguish between the two.

marina_j
marina_j

@kduble kduble, Excellent post! I couldn't agree with you more. Your points are well thought out and very intelligent. Again, well said!

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@xempyreum @bvckvs

If it wasn't for white Christians with guns, there wouldn't have been a WWII in the first place.

tlims3
tlims3

@Catbird@bvckvs You make no since in your posts. Write a complete sentence to get your point across.

paulpsycho78
paulpsycho78

@RTGolden1 @marina_j nobody reads anything...news is all "info-tainment" now....people think their politicians are bumbling buffoons and not corrupt criminals......idiocracy...welcome to Walmart, I love you

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@tlims3Since you make no sense when you err grammatically while pointing out the grammatical errors of others, we'll just ignore you.

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