Dwaine Caraway Hopes to Solve Dallas' $3.3 Million Tire Problem by Building Invisible Fence Around the Trinity

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This morning, the Dallas City Council unanimously approved a $3.3 million contract, mostly for pulling tires from the Trinity River. Everyone agreed that the thousands of abandoned tires that litter the greenbelt (3,000 were recovered during a minor city-led cleanup last summer) need to be removed.

The discussion, then, turned to how to obviate the need for multi-million-dollar cleanups by keeping people from dumping them into the river in the first place.

The Trinity, it seems, was all but unguarded until June 2011, which is when Dallas city marshals began regularly patrolling the corridor and putting up a "limited number of physical barriers" -- gates and fencing to keep out unauthorized vehicles. "Those gates have been equipped with 'no dumping' signs and 'no motor vehicles' allowed, because that's a public education thing we felt like we needed," a representative of the marshal's office told the council.

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To a certain extent, it seems to be working. Two years ago, marshals cited 21 vehicles found in unauthorized areas along the Trinity. That dipped to 18 last year. In the first quarter of the current fiscal year, the number was two.

Yet the tires keep showing up in the river, leading several council members -- Dwaine Caraway in particular -- to propose more drastic measures. Carolyn Davis, apparently unaware that well-known state and local rules require the proper disposal of scrap tires, suggested the city to "make people know they can recycle these tires. They don't have to dump them in the Trinity, dump them in neighborhoods."

Caraway, in turn, pushed for a more rigorous system for tracking tires that leave tire shops so that the city can be sure the tires are going to a licensed disposal site.

"I'm not anti-tire shops, but I am pro-tire control, because they change the tires every day. Every day. We need to know where those tires are going because they're going into the Trinity and they're costing the taxpayers money," Caraway said.

But that idea wasn't quite bold enough for Caraway, so he started spit-balling.

"We can't afford to put a fence out around the Trinity, but maybe if we had some kind of wiring, just a stake and a wire where truck that's going" to dump tires wouldn't be able to get through. This would be "a wire you can't see, that wouldn't affect the beauty of the Trinity. Not a fence with a lot of wires, but just one wire.

"We just gotta come up with something creative."

Tire dumpers, you've been put on notice.

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46 comments
tandyben
tandyben

Scientists need to find a way to get rid of tires. Perhaps, not get rid of them. They need to find a way to recycle them back into tires and we will never run out of working tires. Some good technologies are being created. http://po.st/HCRyCo

AdamsonScott
AdamsonScott

Yes, by all means, keep people from the river.


Typical government response.

rusknative
rusknative

tire conservation is a racist idea targeting only "thugs" and non-whites.  Where is JWP and the "congregation" pointing out how tire management is a white plan to disenfranchise black trash dumper from having freedom to throw stuff wherever they choose, because in the past, the plantation owners would whip them if they tossed Ho Ho wrappers on the ground, or threw Bud Light Boxes out the pickup window.

rusknative
rusknative

dumping trash is a socio cultural thing.  there are plenty of ways to dispose of stuff...but hispanics, blacks, and low information whites just toss trash anywhere that is convenient.  None of these are detered by anything that Dwayne would propose.  Cheaper to just clean up their trash...you can go broke trying to REFORM AND PREVENT these people in the trash dumping category.

wontunow
wontunow

Take those plastic trash bags and tie them together.

ejpaddler
ejpaddler

My big issue with this 3.3 million of money being paid out is that other groups that have come forward to clean up the river have been asked to PAY up to $60,000 for the privileged to pick up trash out of the river.  So on one hand the city is strongly discouraging people from cleaning up the river and on the other they are going to give away 3.3 million dollars to those that ALREADY have city contract in other capacities. 

Cliffhanger
Cliffhanger

I seriously doubt it's tire dealers who are dumping tires in the Trinity. 


But I'm sure Dwaine can contract with the Romulans for an invisible fence.

paulpsycho78
paulpsycho78

blaming poor people many without cars for dumping all these tires..what arrogant bastards - -

paulpsycho78
paulpsycho78

I thought the standing wave was designed to wash all this shit into Garland? wtf

John1073
John1073

Yep let's put up wires you can't see, that would potentially destroy a vehicle, someone's bike, decapitate a few heads, etc. Council always wants to deal with problems the most assinine way possible. Is common sense lost once you get elected to that platform?

Dumpers need some common sense too. A river is not where you take your car, tires, pig blood, or anything else and dispose of.

wake.n.jake
wake.n.jake

All tire shops, body shops and dealerships charge a "trash tire" fee when selling a new tire. Just audit suspected dumpers their trash tire charges with their recycling/disposal invoices.

BenS.
BenS.

The vast majority of tires down there are decades old tires that have been there many years. Lots of old whitewalls and tires for which wheels are no longer even made. That's old legacy trash from old landfills and old dumping from decades ago. The tires move around some with every flood, steadily marching 100 yards per flood downstream.


If Caraway and Davis want to make an impact on their residents quality of life and safety, they can simply get the bar gates locked up. The I-45-Overton gate, the broken guard rail access point at Overton-310, the Lamar-310 gate into Rochester Park, the Great Trinity Forest Way gate at the Old Sleepy Hollow Country Club. Many of these gates are left open by contractors and due to their lazy habits all kinds of damage is done.


Dumpers, hookers and crooks know about all these spots being open and rampage around down in the woods without any consequences. Any given Sunday there are half a dozen vehicles or more back in these areas doing anything and everything illegal. Uzis, floozies, Jacuzzis. It all gets dumped there. $20 worth of master locks would solve it.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

From the topic sentence, I thought you were going to talk about the contract - like who got it, what the terms were, and what their qualifications were; maybe even something about who their connections are.  That kind of stuff.


TexMarine
TexMarine

Recycle the tires and use them to make some more diarrhea colored suits for D.C.

NewsDog
NewsDog

Stakes with a single wire, an invisible wire,...

I doubt the cost would really require The City to solicit formal bids, maybe they can just assign the project to someone(s) who has a friend on the council, 

cough, Archie, cough cough, Arthur, cough cough  

laurenkrohr
laurenkrohr

What if you developed a coordinated effort with the local tire companies and recyclers surrounding the trinity to setup dumping stations where they are already dumping to prevent them from entering the water? http://www.libertytire.com/Home.aspx

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

How about they send someone down to Bass Pro Shop, pick up a half dozen game cameras, and just check those for people driving pickups full of tires to the the dumping sites?

jmckee3
jmckee3

Dwaine, Dwaine,Dwaine, I am so disappointed, you are known for your big ideas, just a single wire is not nearly ambitious enough for you, you are our ideas man.


One word, landmines.


Did you know some of the most international countries in the world are still host to thousands of active landmines? By setting up a protective landmine barrier along with Trinity river will will both solve the pesky tire problem and show the world that we are an world class city that thinks outside of the box. And a side benefit is we can use the left over explosives to complete the Main Street canal. I suggest we go ahead and start bidding out the solar powered gondolas contract before someone else beats us to it.

paulpsycho78
paulpsycho78

@rusknative not true I talk to people in their 50s and 60s and they said they used to throw shit on the ground all the time...watch old movies people will be picnicing and just leave their shit on the ground its wild...that crying Native American (who was really just some Italian bloke) ads really worked.

paulpsycho78
paulpsycho78

@rusknative Ive seen people in Cadillacs and jaguars toss out shit, assholes are the cultural group that do this

fracquestions
fracquestions

@paulpsycho78 Do you even begin to know the pathway of the Trinity River? The river flows down through South Dallas toward Lake Livingston. The standing wave is in the mainstream of the Trinity River, which does not flow anywhere near Garland. The mainstream starts near SH 356 and Irving Boulevard at the confluence of the West Fork and Elm Fork, then flows down through Dallas via a man-made channel that is not the original river channel (the original channel flows along the Dallas-Irving boundary). 


No part of the Trinity River, or any of its four forks, flows through Garland.

rusknative
rusknative

@John1073yeah, those belong in the desert between the Mexican border and the first Arizona highway you get to.

P1Gunter
P1Gunter

You would think locks would help, but they really dont. Back in the '90s when I was in high school we used to party in between the levees up near Regal Row/35 when there wasn't a person's house to party at. 40+ kids smoking pot and drinking beer. On a weekly basis we would just cut the damn locks or drive around the barriers. Was pretty rare for the cops to bother us.

P1Gunter
P1Gunter

You would hope the Parks Department could handle it.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@everlastingphelps

Our conservative brothers and sisters have already made it quite clear that they're against surveillance for anti-terrorism efforts, so it's unlikely they'd suddenly be for it to fight waste disposal violations.


WhiteWhale
WhiteWhale

@jmckee3Wouldn't punji sticks be more green and back to nature?  And the results will provide compost.  

TheCredibleHulk
TheCredibleHulk topcommenter

@jmckee3 

Hear hear!

A few "Bouncing Bettys" strategically placed along the river access would go a long way towards curbing all manner of illegal dumping. This plan may, however, cause a few cleanup issues of its own.

paulpsycho78
paulpsycho78

@fracquestions @paulpsycho78 Garland fucking sucks - there is a reason that a major motion picture like zombieland makes it a point to stop down in the first ten minutes of the film and say what a worthless, shit filled, asshole fest your scumfuck town is

B1ng
B1ng

$5 a cup.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@bvckvs your line of commenting is overplayed and getting to be boring and predictive.  surely you have more creativity in you

TheCredibleHulk
TheCredibleHulk topcommenter

@WhiteWhale @jmckee3 

Well, landmines are kinda' dual purpose - you also get a show and a large "BOOM" each time you nab a tire-dumper, for whatever that's worth.

Taxpayers like it when they get a little bonus for their hard earned dollars.

fracquestions
fracquestions

@paulpsycho78 @fracquestions I have absolutely no idea why you think that I ever have, do now or ever will live in Garland. It is not "MY" town - never has been and never will be. But, I will say that Garland is no better or worse than any place that would have YOU as a resident!


As to "zombieland" being a "major motion picture", I have to question that. Maybe in YOUR mind, but certainly not in the perspective of truly great movies like "Gone With the Wind", "Giant", and other true classics.


I just looked up the IMDB list of most successful movies and 573 are listed that grossed at least $100 Million. Zombieland was NOT listed among them. If THAT is your measurement standard, then it does not say much about your standards.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@bvckvs never said I liked or disliked did I? I just said its boring and predictive.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@ScottsMerkin

If you don't like the stuff you read online, quit reading it.

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