Dallas Didn't Freak Out Nearly Enough Over Ice Storm, Says CBS 11's iTeam

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Now that Dallas has officially made it through Icemageddon 2013, there are plenty of totally legitimate questions to ask about the storm and its response. Here are a few:

-Did TxDOT do an adequate job of staving off carmageddon?

-Can DART not shut down the entire light rail system next time?

-How pissed is the guy whose Chevrolet Impala whose car was crushed by falling ice in Plano?

-"Freezing fog"? "Cobblestone ice"? Aren't we just making stuff up now?

-Why didn't Pete Delkus shoot sunshine and rainbows from the sky instead of freezing water?

See also: Pete Delkus Is Pretty Sure He's the Weather God Now

One question that doesn't need to be asked, because the answer is a clear and resounding YES!!! (see: the empty shelves at Whole Foods), is whether Dallas-Fort Worth was sufficiently freaked out.

CBS 11's intrepid iTeam asked the question anyways, however, and found the level of panic -- particularly from Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings and Fort Worth Mayor Betsy Price -- to be seriously wanting.

Reporter Ginger Allen alludes to the high-profile roles big-city mayors played during Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Sandy, among other diasasters, then wondered why Rawlings and Price didn't jump in front of the cameras in the face of such a "crippling storm."

Though the city has kept residents informed on the web and through social media, and though crews working round-the-clock have kept roads open, "Mayor Mike Rawlings has not personally posted anything about the weather since a single comment on Friday," Allen reports. "When the iTeam requested an interview, in an email CBS 11 was told, "The mayor is not available to discuss the weather today..." and "...the mayor does not have time to respond to email questions."

See also: Live Blog: Winter Storm Cleon Is Coming For All Of Us

Price, meanwhile, "did speak to CBS 11 but she did not send a message to city residents until Monday afternoon, after the worst of it was over."

Nevertheless, she gave her city an A for its response to the ice storm, something that didn't sit well with randomly selected driver Clyde Picht.

"Well, I'm assuming the mayor got her road sanded, or had someone with four-wheel drive and chains come and pick her up and take her to City Hall... but that wouldn't happen out here," he told Allen. "So it may be an 'A' for her, but it would probably be a D for those of us who live out here."

That Picht, a former Fort Worth city councilman, happens to be a vocal Price critic surely had no bearing on his assessment.

Not once was Rawlings or Price spotted elbowing shoppers out of the way to scoop up that last bunch of bananas or going down on bended knee to give burnt offerings that might appease Pete Delkus.

Clearly, our municipal leaders owe us more.

Send your story tips to the author, Eric Nicholson.

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seat21d
seat21d

What good what it have done?  Thanks to Oncor, no one would have heard it.

NotReallyThanks
NotReallyThanks

Where is Patrick Kennedy and his fluffer troll Mike to tell us how none of this would have happened in their walkable utopias? 

rain391
rain391

As usual, the Dallas bigoted news didn't think McKinney was worthy of coverage.  We had 2-4 inches of ice and sleet up here in West McKinney, lost lots of Oak tree branches on either side of our house.  The Oak tree next door is still frozen downward.  I never heard one work about how hiway 75 was doing from South McKinney North and that road is all torn up to widen it and add another lane.  If my spouse didn't actually study the sports section every day, I would cancel the rag!

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

Freezing fog: aka 'pogonip' or 'pogeynip' in the northern California wasteland my unremarkable ancestors hail from.  It's real, and we didn't see anything like it with this particular storm.


https://www.google.com/search?q=pogey+nip+frost+california+honey+lake+valley&client=firefox-a&hs=06s&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=TaWnUs26IIKc2QXsnoFQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1217&bih=884#channel=fflb&q=pogonip+frost&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch


Does Allen seriously hint that she's wishing Rawlings or Price were more like Ray Nagin???

WhiteWhale
WhiteWhale

Who the hell puts booties on a big long haired dog?  That is just plain sick and I demand an investigation

Greg820
Greg820

I was doing perfectly fine unitl. . . .the Black Cobblestone Ice Fog descended upon me.

P1Gunter
P1Gunter

Dallas wasn't hit that hard by the storm outside of power going out in parts of East Dallas. It was annoying, but the roads were passable. It was the northern burbs that got hit hard by it.

kaspreen
kaspreen

It's unfortunate that so many of you seriously veered off topic and started lambasting one another over who is right or wrong and then degraded this conversation into something about what the other one wrote.  This op ed is a simple weather parody.  Chill out, people, and just be happy the sun is shining today.

ruddski
ruddski topcommenter

When the elite whine about Dallas rubes unable to handle a teeny bit of ice, remind them that France lost thousands of French from one little warm spell that would be a balmy day in Dallas.

ColoradoMan
ColoradoMan

This metro is a pathetic joke, schools closed again today, people calling in at work??  You've had since Saturday to shovel your driveway.... if they cant handle some light ice from nature...... well then you all know what else you won't be able to handle when shit really hits the fan ;)

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

Cities all over the country figured out long ago that a snowplow can be mounted on a dump truck.  You don't have to invest millions on dedicated snowplow vehicles to clear the roads.

monstruss
monstruss

McKinney is too close to Oklahoma to really matter.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@WhiteWhale  Big Kitty simply adores donning Rebecca Minkoff's gorgeous feline footwear and sashaying about the house.  But, honey, they are a price!

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

Made it difficult to get those bodies to the authorized drop off points, did it?

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

Just a safety tip, if you are on a highway and the traffic slows down considerably or comes to a stop, turn on your 4-way flashers.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@kaspreen  You're new to this comment board...  aren't you?

observist
observist topcommenter

If it hits 0 in Dallas, 600 people die.  If it hits 100 in Chicago, 600 people die.  It's almost as if the different regions are unprepared for different types of weather!

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@ruddski  How many people in Dallas would survive a summer here without having invested in air conditioning for their homes?

msbcez
msbcez

@ColoradoMan Im from Colorado,  spent the weekend hauling around all my friends and neighbors, as well as getting people unstuck.  And I drive a rear wheel drive vehicle!
If they would've just drove their damn fwd Hondas, or whatever it would handle like a dream but theyre all scared lol.
Oddly enough I actually unstuck several drivers whom apparently weren't stuck but forgot how to drive.  As they kept trying to drive up the hillish side of the road, and have guys trying to push her out, when I arrived I just said BACKUP, and crank your wheel the other way.  Then crank it the other way again, and very slowly pull forward, and bam she was out.

DId this one other time with a guy stuck against a fence in the same friggin apt complex.
Then a guy came along and had to stop while helping them, and he was on a hill and got stuck, so I had to explain to him, to just back up to the dry spot, give it a lot of gas, and hell shoot up the hill lol.

I dunno maybe I just spent too much time in Colorado doing cookies in parkinglots, but I really didn't think the ice was all that bad as long as you used some common sense, and maybe did a little practice driving in a clear spot to get used to handling on ice.
I even took my 16 year old daughter out to practice in a nearby parkinglot so she wasn't a future moron!
Did I mention the people I just talked into getting unstuck, that there were at least 5 guys helping her when I showed, pushing on the car, as well as hitting the ice with hammers to chip spots for their shoes to grip lmao! And then bam after they spent 30 min pushing, she got out without a bit of pushing and just a little bit of intelligence!

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

You need to pull the stick out of your ass.  I also hail from CO.  Colorado only has 3 seasons; June, July and Winter.  Colorado invests in equipment dedicated to snow and ice removal, because it's a necessity.  When Dallas gets maybe two or three serious ice/winter storms per year, it's not cost effective to invest in equipment it takes to deal with winter storms.  Same goes for the citizens.  Go try to buy a snow shovel, tire chains or any other kind of vehicular winter accessory.  Hell, when I moved to TX, people thought my truck was electric, because the cord for the block heater was sticking out of the grill.

Remember, people on the West Slope make fun of Denver all the time because a little snow will shut that city down for days on end. (little being relative here)  On the flip side, I'd love to see the effect 90 straight days of 100+ degree days with no rain would have on the rugged mountaineers of my younger days.

ColonelAngus
ColonelAngus

@ColoradoMan  My entire city was covered in solid ice four inches thick.  Kids were ice skating anywhere they wanted to.  "Light ice from nature?"  How thick will the ice be when shit really hits the fan, eighteen inches?

JohnSmallBerries
JohnSmallBerries

@ColoradoMan Lots of the schools are closed because significant amounts of homes were without power. There is no guarantee those students and families will even be nearby let alone be prepared to take the kids to school. In some locales some schools didn't have power. Should those open?

Greg820
Greg820

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul  What is up with people and their flashers?  What a distraction to not only the people on the road, but the driver who has to hear that constant click-click, click-click.  They should be shot on site, but it would only foul up the road more.

ruddski
ruddski topcommenter

If there were no AC in Dallas, only visiting Frenchmen would die.

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

My family are multi-generation Texans. I have no idea how the hell they lived here before AC. I can't sleep above 73F

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@ScottsMerkin  They do after the ice has been salted.

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

If they weren't yappin or textin when they pulled up they would've known sooner.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

Come to think of it they are pretty useless.  I can't count the number of times that I have seen a stalled car, hood up, flashers on and someone pulls up right behind and waits for them to move, then after 5 minutes or so realize that the car in front of them is not moving anytime soon.

ruddski
ruddski topcommenter

The jury is not still out on road salt, it eats your car and destroys the environment.

Vermont discovered this about 30 years ago.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

On the contrary, salt does quite a bit of damage to concrete roadways and structures.  The sodium chloride will leach into the concrete and cause the cement to spall.  Also, it was not until recently that the reinforcing steel in roadways had a protective coating applied to reduce rusting.  When the salt leaches into the concrete and reaches the reinforcing steel.  The reinforcing steel corrodes.  As it corrodes, it expands in volume and causes more of the cement to spall off of the structure.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

A compound called Magnesium chloride is used.  It has a slightly greater freezing point depressant on a per pound basis and does not affect the roadways the way common salt does.

observist
observist topcommenter

Salt doesn't do anything to the roads, the expansion and contraction from freezing and thawing does.  Up North they pour mountains of salt on the roads (260 lbs per person per year in Minneapolis)  and the effects on plants and groundwater are noticeable, but not dire. Salting the bridges ~2 times a year in Dallas wouldn't have any measurable negative effect. 

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

The jury is still out on the effects of pure salt.  What we know is that additives to the salt do the damage to the environment.  Do some research before jumping to conclusions based on assumptions.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@ruddski dont ask myrna, she wouldnt know, it doesnt help her arguement

ruddski
ruddski topcommenter

Do they still use actual car-eating, fauna-destroying salt, or do they use some Eco-friendly alternative?

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