Here Are Some Medical Procedures Texas Regulates Less Than Abortions

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Placing tough new rules on abortion clinics is just common sense, according to common sense fanatic Rick Perry. He says that House Bill 2--the new law requiring all abortions to be performed in surgical centers, by a doctor with admitting privileges at a hospital within 30 miles -- will ensure "that anyone performing abortions in Texas is doing so in a facility that is safe, clean and prepared to deal with any emergencies that might occur."

That's nice. But if we're really serious about putting safety first in Texas, then we haven't gone far enough. Here is an alarming list of popular outpatient procedures that can still be performed in a normal, non-surgical clinic, by a doctor who doesn't necessarily have hospital-admitting-privileges.

Colonoscopies

The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists says that abortions pose about the same risk as colonoscopies.

After Katie Couric got a colonoscopy on national television, the American public got over its fear of letting a doctors stick tiny video cameras up their rectums and started getting lots and lots of colonoscopies. Now, some experts say that the push for colonoscopies often appears to be motivated by profits rather than health. "We've defaulted to by far the most expensive option, without much if any data to support it," Dr. H. Gilbert Welch, at Dartmouth, told the New York Times in June.

In Texas, a recent study of elderly patients suggests that a whopping 39 percent were given colonoscopies they didn't actually need. Perhaps doctors will stop trying to look at our colons so much when they can no longer do so from the comfort of their overpriced family-practice suites on Turtle Creek.

Vasectomies
Men's precious bodies are being stripped of their ability to fertilize women in a host of crude, non-surgical settings. "A vasectomy can be performed in a medical office, hospital, or clinic," says the Planned Parenthood website.

Wisdom Teeth
A doctor can rip out your wisdom teeth while you sit in the same dentists' chair that only three hours earlier was occupied by a child vomiting bubble gum-flavored fluoride. "Due to advances in surgical and anesthesia techniques, extraction of wisdom teeth can normally be performed safely on an outpatient basis under sedation," says one Wisdom Teeth surgery peddler.

Miscarriage treatment
If you're suffering a miscarriage, you can still run to an ordinary doctor's office. As one physician writes: "Truth be told, the surgical management of a miscarriage is exactly the same as a first trimester surgical abortion. Exactly the same. I am permitted to perform a dilation and curettage in my clinic as long as it is in the context of a miscarriage, however this is not so in the case of the termination of an otherwise normal pregnancy."

Laser eye surgery
The eye doctor who publishes tacky LASIK ads in your local coupon book is allowed to shoot lasers into your eyeballs even if he can't check you into a hospital within 30 miles away. No, if he screws up, he'll have to call an ambulance, and an EMT will check you in, instead.

This surgery is supposed to be pretty safe anyway, but try telling that to the woman who was awarded $1.7 million by a Kentucky jury after the surgery made her go blind in one eye.

Biopsies, Cystoscopies, Toenail removal, Skin cancer lesion removal, Hernia repair, Thyroid biopsy, Tonsillectomy, Bronchoscopy, Appendectomy
Tubal ligation, Esophageal-reflux surgery, Lumpectomy, Mastectomy, Benign cyst removal, Rotator Cuff repair, Shoulder Arthroscopy, etc.

When the abortion legislation was still under debate in Senate, an analysis of the bill claimed that "Texas allows no other procedure to opt out of the accepted standard of care."

That's a vague enough sentence that it might technically be true. But that analysis doesn't mention that Texas has failed to single out any other common outpatient procedure to force it to take place in an ambulatory surgical center and with a hospital nearby.

In September, a doctor named Jennifer Cowart sent a letter to the state health department outlining the inconsistencies: "I am not aware of any law or rule requiring common procedures such as vasectomy, cystoscopy, colposcopy, IUD placement, subcutaneous implant placement (such as the contraceptive rod), colonoscopy with or without polypectomy,....or ANY OTHER MEDICAL OR SURGICAL PROCEDURE, to be performed in an ambulatory surgical center, rather than a clinic."

And there are plenty of outpatient procedures that perhaps shouldn't be performed just anywhere. A study by the University of Michigan last year found that 1 in 84 of high-risk patients who were treated in outpatient centers rather than hospitals suffered blood clots after the surgery.

"Once a setting for those having simple procedures, outpatient surgery now includes a greater variety of procedures from plastic surgery to cancer operations and orthopedic surgery, and not all patients are young, healthy individuals," says the study's author, Dr. Christopher J. Pannucci.

Meanwhile, the Guttmacher Institute says that less than .05 percent of abortions result in major complications.

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joeyfoto.fr
joeyfoto.fr

The fact that you believe preposterous nonsense 

does not impart the right to violate other people's lives.

That sense of entitlement comes with ignorance  that excuses cruelty.

I grew up on a cattle ranch; I thought I was a conservative;

it turns out that minding my own business when my neighbors want to be left alone and helping when they call for help is a liberal position.

MisterMean
MisterMean

Lets face it.  This is not about woman's health but the Texas Taliban forcing their beliefs upon others. 

rbtxcat75
rbtxcat75

What a confusing article.  So leading up to HB2, all I heard was "this is a war on women and an over-reach by the Texas state government..."  Now are you saying that we should hold these other medical procedures to the same standard?  Or should we lessen the restrictions on abortion and keep these other medical procedures at the current level?

roo_ster
roo_ster

To the pro-abortion crowd, an unborn fetus and a polyp in your large intestine have the same moral worth.

pak152
pak152

so i've asked in the past and the DO hasn't reported, but what are the parts of the ambulatory surgical center regulations that pro-abortion folks are so opposed to? 

http://www.sos.state.tx.us/texreg/archive/September272013/Proposed%20Rules/25.HEALTH%20SERVICES.htmloccur

Is it the fact that corridors must be able to accommodate a gurney. (Gosnell's clinic couldn't and EMTs had to carry patients out bodily), is it the annual reporting on emergencies that take place at the clinics? because Lord knows no problems ever occur at abortion clinics
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2013/08/02/another-gosnell-in-delaware/

and in case you've never read the grand jury report on Gosnell here you go
ttp://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/horrifying-passages-from-the-kermit-gosnell-grand-jury-repor

"Santiago was almost 13 weeks pregnant when her abortion was performed by Iris Dominy, who reportedly told police her patient slept through the abortion before suffering cardiac arrest, which led to her death two days later. None of the clinic's staff was CPR certified, a crash cart wasn't used to attempt to save Santiago, and the defibrillator was found to be broken."
http://www.christianpost.com/news/4-md-abortion-clinics-shut-down-3-abortionists-licenses-suspended-amid-patients-death-97573/

and of course Planned Parenthood is a pure as Caesar's wife
Planned Parenthood agreed to pay $4.3 million to settle a federal civil suit claiming that it fraudulently billed Medicaid for women's health services provided by some of its Texas clinics from 2003 to 2009.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323455104579016951262314732

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

Colonoscopies require sedation and you cannot drive yourself home.  I think that is far more invasive and risky than taking an abortion-inducing drug in the first trimester. 

Mifepristone, taken orally, blocks the action of progesterone, which causes the uterine lining to thin and the pregnancy to detach.  avoids the use of surgical instruments, thus avoiding the risk of injury to the cervix or uterus from instrumentation. Anesthesia not required.  High success rate (95-98%).  

Oxtail
Oxtail

If another viable human being was to eventually going to blerch out of my ass, my penis, my teeth, my eyes, my toes, my neck, my skin, my boob, or my shoulder, I think it should be medically regulated. It just seems safer that way.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@rbtxcat75 

That kind of confusion is common in people who are politically opposed to legitimate medical procedures. 

That confusion on their part is why they came up with medical protocols that have no basis in medicine.

If you want a better understanding of the medical issues, you'll have to set aside your emotional, political and religious issues and focus strictly on the medicine.


joeyfoto.fr
joeyfoto.fr

@roo_ster You will never understand the fact that — polyp, fetus or actual or potential person — is in someone else's body and it is none of your business.

None. That is, it is not your business at all.  

Get it or not, at the end of the day, that is the way it will be.

sandyha
sandyha

@roo_ster you insist on being a twit, don't you?  NO ONE is pro-abortion.  everyone would love to see abortion never to be needed or necessary.   BUT, NO ONE should ever have the right to tell another what can be done to their own person.  your crowd are also the only ones who refuse to acknowledge that our kids need accurate sex education and access to birth control....and yes, when necessary to abortion.  PRO CHOICE will always be the standard to strive for, no matter what your ilk try to throw at us.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@roo_ster How invasive do you want to allow your government to be?  In the name of 'women's safety' and 'protecting the fetus', you will encourage the government to dictate what a woman will do with her body, what she is to believe about life and when it begins and how she is to deal with the circumstances of her life?

Would you approve of the government taking the same measures in regards to firearms?  How about we allow firearms and ammunition to be co-located only in state-approved facilities (firing ranges) in the presence of state-licensed firearms instructors?  Mind you, we'll preface this by saying we're going to do this for 'public safety'.  Let's also make certain that all of these facilities have a state-licensed EMT-P on staff to handle any accidents, and we'll make sure each firing range is within 15 miles of a trauma capable hospital.

I would not, as you might guess, support any of these gun control measures, however, I'm capable of discerning the hypocrisy of supporting one of these scenarios and not the other.

MisterMean
MisterMean

@roo_ster come off it they are not pro life only pro birth.  Once out of the womb the children are on their own.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@roo_ster No, they understand that abortions will happen, just like drug use, be it legal or not.  But, the complications and problems are not abated by prohibition, in fact prohibition only compounds the problem.  You know this, but check logic at the door.   You put flatulence and reasoning on the same level

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@pak152 Citing an illegal practice under present law isn't a way to indict the law.  What will be worse are the back alley abortions that will arise under this prohibition.  Logic and logical consistency is not your strong suit.

pak152
pak152

@holmantx ever had a colonscopy? i have, and there was no cutting, something that occurs during abortions especially late term abortions which the law bans. now you mention the detachment of the uterine lining are you aware that the uterine lining is full of blood? what happens when it doesn't fully detach? just leaving it hanging

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@Oxtail It should be regulated by fiduciary law, a principle that is many centuries old.  This is not a utility market where gov't involvement is appropriate.  It's not a question of major healthcare.   It's funny that the GOP doesn't have a paradigm for where gov't intrusion is appropriate.   The Dems don't either, but they're not hypocritical on this issue. 

observist
observist

@Oxtail  You seem to be confusing abortion with prenatal care.

pak152
pak152

@scottindallas @pak152 and raising up scary "back alley abortions" without any evidence that they will occur isn't logical but it is consistent with the speaking points of the pro-abortion movement
what "illegal practice" am I citing. both Gosnell and the Delaware case were operating under the laws of PA and DE.
so far you haven't answered the questions I asked.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@pak152 

I like the way you use complications from illegal abortions as a rationale to argue against legal ones.  It's like saying that we shouldn't take asprin because some people take heroin.

It's not a rational argument that would work on any decent person, but it should catch on quite well on the idiots who are already in the anti-abortion movement.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@pak152 @holmantx thank the GOP that late term abortions are still legal.  The Democrats were willing to, and did vote to support a partial birth abortion ban.  However, the GOP insisted on no exemption for the life/health of the mother.  This was so they could wail about "activist judges" since the law is reticent to compel martyrdom.  

roninbear
roninbear

@pak152 @holmantx Pak152, you're obviously male.  The uterine lining detaches monthly.  It's normal.  We usually call it a 'menstrual cycle'.  If it doesn't completely detach, it detaches the next month and you have a heavier 'menstrual cycle' than usual.  Oh yes, and more cramping.  Geez.  This is pretty basic biology.  Did you possibly go to Christian School, or were you homeschooled?  Public schools are actually required to teach this stuff.


RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@pak152 @holmantx Isn't the detachment of the uterine lining a fairly common, natural occurence?  I believe it happens every 28 days or so, accompanied by bad jokes about violent mood swings.....

rain391
rain391

@pak152 @holmantxColonscopies are not at all complication-free.   As more people are selecting this procedure for prevention, the complication rates are rising.  On the less dangerous end is slight bleeding and or retained gas rising to a puncture of the bowel from the scope.  This often causes peritonitis and requires serious antibiotics and abdominal exploration. If not managed appropriate, serious complications and/or death can.  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6945/

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@pak152 @holmantx 

Late term abortions aren't at issue.  The first 20 weeks, in particular the first few weeks, a pill is what it takes.  But even the safety of THAT is not at issue.

What I object to is the same tactic used by the current administration nationally when they disagree with a Law of the Land.  They cherry-pick the enforcement of laws only they agree with.  And it is killing the soul of this country.

It degrades the Rule of Law.  Each blow to this underpinning eventually sends us into the streets.

In this particular case, those who oppose abortion hold sway over the state government and so they modified the law in order to deny service for a legal procedure they don't agree with.

Women aren't getting equal protection under the law because the State used a gimmick. 

It is not an issue of safety and we all know it.

And yeah, I've had more than one colonoscopy and it is FAR more invasive and you know it.

This law is going to be overturned.


saneone
saneone

@scottindallas @Oxtail  

bottom line....most people are not opposed to abortions...get all you want....just pay for them with your money not mine. its only government intrusion because you are asking taxpayers (yes those evil workers) to pay for your lifestyle choices..... 

Oxtail
Oxtail

@Sharon_Moreanus Definitely my pussy. But there are already rules for that. The article is comparing killin' babies to such things as toenail removal. .....But then I guess that was the point. Ahhh...,now I get it. Those hangnails are inconvenient too.

jennykraige
jennykraige

@pak152 @scottindallas I don't know how young you are but if you meet people fighting for these rights prior to Roe v Wade they'll tell you all about them.

pak152
pak152

@roninbear @pak152 @holmantxyes I am male and the difference betweent the separation the uterine wall during the menstrual cycle and an abortion are two different things. the uterine wall during the menstrual starts to prepare for the implantation of a fertilized egg. once implanted the wall increases the amount of blood connections.
" Did you possibly go to Christian School, or were you homeschooled?" these two questions show you ignorance about both types of schooling. if public schooling is so effective then why so many unwed mothers in public schools?

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