State Sen. Wendy Davis, Gubernatorial Candidate, Had To Sign An Affidavit Before She Could Vote This Morning

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Senator Wendy Davis, the first legitimate Democratic aspirant to statewide office in years, couldn't vote without first signing an affidavit verifying her identity Monday morning.

That's because a state law passed in 2011 requires for the first time that voters provide a valid photo ID. So why did Davis get snagged? It wasn't because she didn't bring an ID. According to KERA, voter registration records list her as Wendy Davis. But her driver's license includes her maiden name: Russell.

Under the law, the name on a voter's ID must be identical to the name in voter registration records. This has become a widely reported problem among women because they may have recently married or divorced and haven't updated their information. The law's supporters say it is intended to prevent voter impersonation, which would be the most inefficient method of voter fraud. State Attorney General Greg Abbott launched an investigation of voter fraud in Texas. Between 2002 and 2012, there were a grand total of 50 cases. Only two of the cases were for voter impersonation. Another 60 percent resulted in deferred adjudication, acquittal and pretrial diversion.

Those opposed to the law say it's a way to prevent those who might skew Democrat from voting.

Davis isn't the only official who has run into resistance at the polls. "What I have used for voter registration and for identification for the last 52 years was not sufficient yesterday when I went to vote," 117th District Court Judge Sandra Watts told KIII-TV in South Texas.

This is the first statewide election since the law has been in effect. If you're headed for the polls, here's a list of acceptable forms of photo ID. Interesting that a concealed handgun permit is acceptable, while a student ID from a state university is not.

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Sotiredofitall
Sotiredofitall topcommenter

Seems to indicate she is another lawyer who can't keep track of her personal paperwork but whats to be in charge of legislation for everyone.  And I'll likely end up voting for her by default?   Oh what a sad state we are in.

rusknative
rusknative

no big deal for an ADULT....just UPDATE YOUR INFO IF YOU HAVE LIFE CHANGES.  Today, folks think that GOVT is the fault for everything that THEY failed to take their own responsibility for.

The_triplefake_Brandon_Eley
The_triplefake_Brandon_Eley

I get that voter fraud is miniscule, making this law utterly ridiculous.  But, I'm having a hard time mustering sympathy for people who chose to change their name, chose to not update their government ID, and whine about having to sign a document attesting that they are who they say they are.

Steve
Steve

Fucked up headline, assboy.

Catbird
Catbird

So in the old days the Abortion Barbie could legally have voted as Wendy Davis and Wendy Russell...there would have been no fraud for Abbott to discover.

I am truly interested in seeing the vote totals on election night to see if there is a significant change in the total number of votes counted.

pak152
pak152

so what is the problem? her drivers' license name didn't match her voters registration she signed and affidavit and then voted. what is the problem? oh yeah she didnt make sure each item matched up. but even still she was still able to cast a ballot

Obummer
Obummer

Yo ah knowz ah would fly down dere an' fix dis here if ah didn't gots ta spend so darned much tyme improving muh putting.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

Strage,the people on this forum who are so eager to fill out more government paperwork, require more documents just so we can vote. And most of them the very people I would have thought would be opposed to this very thing. 

Politics is a strange business, isn't it?

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

By a 2 to 1 margin, Americans think Voter ID is needed and not a burden

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

I've asked before and never received an answer. Would someone please explain why voter fraud is such a problem? Are there any statistics, evidence of any kind that this is widespread? 

cbradley
cbradley

@rusknative I can only assume you are a man who has never had to change their name.  It's not as easy as you think.  When I married I spent months trying to get my name changed & to this day my voter id card includes my middle name but my passport, the IRS & my license do not.  I'll have to sign an affidavit & that really chaps me.

Linda
Linda

@The_triplefake_Brandon_Eley    I have two required pieces of identification, a driver's license with my first, middle and last name.  My other is a military ID that required my first, maiden name, and married name.  I've used both for over 30 years.   Neither should prevent me from voting.  The rethuglicans are trying to disenfranchise  a whole segment of the voting public , who would prob vote for Ms. Davis next year. It is estimated that  34 % of Texas women could be thwarted from voting. Most would not have heard about this  " new" requirement until they showed up at the polling place.  By then it is too late to make the needed changes. Sure , we can sign an affadavit, but who then will ensure the ballot is counted?  The rethugs?  I don't trust them to do so.

P1Gunter
P1Gunter

@Catbird As I understand it, no, she actually could not have. Now mind you Ft. Worthless may have some crazy policy I don't know about, but every time I've voted in Dallas I've simply used my driver's license and initialed next to it (voter cards don't fit in the male wallet very well). I give my name, the old lady working the polls finds it in a binder, I show her my D/L, initial, and get a ballot. A person is only listed once regardless of name changes due to marriage (though I'm sure clerical errors do happen occasionally).

The tiny, remote amount of voter fraud that occurs is generally the result of someone being deceased at which point the voter would need either a voter ID card or a fake ID of the person. Do you honestly believe that anyone is going to go through that much effort in a city this size for one vote?

TheCredibleHulk
TheCredibleHulk topcommenter

@Catbird 

Really, you didn't need all of the embellishment. You could have just tossed the Abortion Barbie thing right out there.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@pak152 Like filling out superfluous governent paperwork, Pak152?

rusknative
rusknative

@holmantx wait until the tangle with HEALTHCARE ID required when Obamacare is fully implemented as regulated by HHS in the Obama administration.   Many people in the USA do not know WHEN or Where they were born, or how to consistently spell their names...many actually use the same SS card as other family members, live at the same address, and have the same name as other family members.   This is especially an issue with Hispanic immigrants, or folks who came from a country with a non USA alphabet spelling of their native name.


This NEEDS to become an issue and get solved via the voter ID....nationwide!!

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@holmantx I have voter ID. Carried it for years. This is a new wrinkle. Now we need viter ID ID. Pretty soon we'll need v0ter ID ID ID.  Where does it end?

And by the way, holman, this is a new one for you: Citing opinion polls a the reason for deep changes in the law.

But still no sign of evidence this law is needed, holman. Could it be that there is none? Surely someone somewhere has investigated voter fraud, has come up with some statistics, some facts. Where are they?

rusknative
rusknative

@bmarvel DALLAS COUNTY IS FILLED WITH VOTER FRAUD, INCLUDING PURCHASED ABSENTEE BALLOTS FILLED OUT BY VOTERS IN BLANK AND COLLECTED BY THE BLACK SOUTH DALLAS REVERENDS.

pak152
pak152

@bmarvel bill you can examine voting records from across the country where more people have voted in a precinct than actually live in the precinct. or where 100% of the votes go to one candidate. but real issue of voter fraud comes into play when the election is tight, then a certain party tends to suddently find ballots that need to be counted. 

As someon who is apparently vehemently opposed to the use of a photo id (something used in hundreds of situations on a daily basis to prove identity) please examine to me why you don't want to use a photo id? and don't fall back on the old saw "there is no evidence of voter fraud" because that is just a red herring


holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@bmarvel 

Well, it has been presented however you seem to have a problem with it anyway.  SCOTUS even ruled on it, Justice Stevens writing for the majority sustaining voter ID and he was certainly no conservative.  Have you read it?  He had personal experience growing up in Chicago where there was and remains a real problem with voter fraud.  And do we not have a situation with millions in the country illegally?  It seems only prudent that, in order to sustain voter integrity (confidence in the vote), we ask that those who desire to exercise their right to vote show proof they are citizens of this country?  She was allowed to vote provisionally after she swore she was who she was even without the requisite identification.  So what's your problem with this?  

The_triplefake_Brandon_Eley
The_triplefake_Brandon_Eley

@Linda @The_triplefake_Brandon_Eley Thank you for your service.  Are you telling me that 34% of Texas women chose to change their names and further chose to not update their identification.  They have to shoulder some of the culpability for this and I think signing an identity affidavit is appropriate.   

rusknative
rusknative

@Linda @The_triplefake_Brandon_Eley WHEN YOU CALL FOLKS "RETHUGS" YOU reveal YOUR immaturity and ignorance. NO ONE CANNOT VOTE, they MAY have to file a "provisional" ballot...which beats them VOTING SIX OR MORE TIMES......or the scams with "absentee ballots" collected in Dallas by the black reverends and sold to the highest bidding candidate at the last minute in ballot counting.

TheCredibleHulk
TheCredibleHulk topcommenter

@P1Gunter @Catbird 

Do you honestly believe that the reason that Catbird posted a comment was for anything other than dropping the term Abortion Barbie into this thread?

pak152
pak152

@bmarvel @pak152 what superfluous government paperwork? ever seen how married need to go through to change their name on their social security card. or that your name on your photo id presented to TSA must match the name on your airline boarding card?


bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@pak152 Just keep filling out those goverenment papers, pak. You'll have to show them to the authorities pretty soon.

pak152
pak152

@bmarvelso bill what voter id have you been carrying for years? you don't like proffering a photo id that matches the name on your "voter id"
i find it interesting that liberal/progressives do not want to have a secure ethical honest voting system. even Saint Jimmy Carter said that we should have a photo id for voting.

"still no sign of evidence this law is needed" and there are a lot of laws and regulations passed or issued by our government for which no evidence of need has been exhibited.
lets look at it this way. you hear about burglaries in your neighborhood, but your house has never been hit. do you lock your doors and windows to reduce the possibility or not?

hundreds if not thousands of stories about voter fraud exist in the history of this country.. Explain in a logical manner why someone should not offer photo proof of who they say they are?

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@bmarvel

in the article above:

State Attorney General Greg Abbott launched an investigation of voter fraud in Texas. Between 2002 and 2012, there were a grand total of 50 cases. Only two of the cases were for voter impersonation.

so let's put some rough numbers to this. 10 years of elections, 3 presidential contests where the greatest number of votes are cast. approx. 8 million votes/election x 3= 24 million in the pres years, plus let's call for 30% on average on the off election years, 2.6 million x 7= about 18 million votes.

grand total? Abbott found 2 cases of voter impersonation out of about 42 million voters. .000000047%

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@bmarvel 

the facts seem to have eluded you despite the national debate on the subject.  The vast majority of Dems and Repubs, Libertarians and independents favor it for a reason.  

Just take a leap of faith.


bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

Because I produced a photo id when I received my voter registration card many years ago, and I still carry a voter registration card and I'm the same person, just a little older. And if I am no longer eligible for a drivers license in a year or two, the burden will be on me all over again to prove that I really am who I say I am. That's an imposition of state power -- show us your papers -- that I resent. It's an intrusion of government, which always intrudes more and more, never less and less. 

 

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@holmantx 

apparently you are unaware that "those who desire to exercise their right to vote show proof they are citizens of this country" is already done without a voter id requirement at the polling station. it's referred to as "Voter Registration".

everyone must do that already.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@holmantx holman-- I asked for actual evidence. The childhood memories of a Supreme Court Justice  -- Did he cite these in his opinion, by the way?-- are evidence of anything? Does the presence of undocumented immigrants in itself constitute evidence of voter fraud? I asked for evidence, not rhetoric or surmise.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@pak152 @bmarvel Yes.I'm against that,too. But some people -- you perhaps --  like to imagine the whole airport rigamarole keeps us safe.

pak152
pak152

@bmarvel @pak152 yes we do thanks to obamacare, besides I'm trying to find a definition of "strage" ;-)

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@pak152 Pak - you've made the mistake before of identifying me as a liberal/progressive. Perhaps this is some atavistic compulsion you have to sort people into easily manageable categories. If so, it does not serve your political understanding.

Since "hundreds of thousands of stories about voter fraud exist in the history of his country," surely it would not be beyond the competence of our would-be governor to come up with more than 50 over ten years. But apparently not.

Here's what's being said, pak; That this law is an effort to discourage certain classes of voters from exercising their rights. Nothing unique to the Republicans, there. I'm sure the same tactic has been employed by the other party time and again. It's in the nature of politics. Do you deny this is, in fact, the case, pak? If it's not, whatever reason can there be for a law the need for which has not been shown? 


 

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@bmarvel 

you left out

c) both of the above

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@mavdog That suggests that either:

a) there is no problem, or none worth worrying about, or

b) Abbott is not going to be a very effective governor.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@holmantx Is tat how you establish your political views, holman? A "leap of faith"?

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@pak152 And those "folks of a certain political bent" would be....?

 So you admit,the purpose of the law is frankly political. It's to keep likely Democrats away from the polls and to elect Republicans. Precisely as was done by the Democrats all over the South for decades. And you do not see this as a perversion of political power?

pak152
pak152

@mavdog @holmantx except that a folks of a certain political bent have been found guilty of mulitple voter registration fraud. ever heard of one person one vote?

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@holmantx And hpw do you "marry up" the indivdual with the identifcation he or she carries? Inasmuch as getting a fake photo ID is sooo very difficult.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@mavdog @holmantx 

so how do you marry up registration to the individual who shows up at the polls?  I believe it was answered by Ms. Davis

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@pak152 

that's an impressive list of links to stories about accusations of voter fraud, however NONE of these alleged acts would have been prevented by a requirement of a voter ID.

great job.....keep up the good work!

pak152
pak152

@bmarvel @holmantx  

"Woman Arrested for Voting Multiple Times in 2012 Primary Runoff Election"

http://www.fbi.gov/sanantonio/press-releases/2013/woman-arrested-for-voting-multiple-times-in-2012-primary-runoff-election
'Milwaukee man pleads guilty to five counts of voter fraud

Read more from Journal Sentinel: http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/milwaukee-man-pleads-guilty-to-five-counts-of-voter-fraud-b99119682z1-227686051.html#ixzz2jA2xIynX
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"Democrats say America doesn't need voter identification laws because there's no evidence of election cheating. But when a candidate doesn't get a single vote in 59 precincts, you've got to wonder.

One candidate did just that last week in Philadelphia, where Mitt Romney was shut out 19,605-0 in 59 voting divisions.


Read More At Investor's Business Daily: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/111312-633313-voter-fraud-is-a-problem.htm#ixzz2jA36DbhT
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Mr. Obama received "astronomical" numbers in those very same regions, including locations where he received "over 99%" of the vote.  

http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/fraud-in-pa-obama-got-over-99-of-vote.html

A review of voter registration data for ten counties in Colorado details a pattern of voter bloat inflating registration rolls to numbers larger than the total voting age population. Using publicly available voter data and comparing it to U.S. Census records reveals the ten counties having a total registration ranging between 104 to 140 percent of the respective populations.

http://mediatrackers.org/colorado/2012/09/04/colorado-counties-have-more-voters-than-people

3 Out-of-State SEIU Operatives Registered and Voted from Wisconsin Hotel - See more at: http://workplacechoice.org/2011/10/27/3-out-of-state-seiu-operatives-registered-and-voted-from-wisconsin-hotel/#sthash.pnp8nfT7.dpuf

A total of 39 cases of double-voting are currently under investigation in which it appears that an individual voted in both Minnesota and Wisconsin during in 2008.  Two Wisconsin men have thus far been charged with voting twice – once in their hometown of Menomonie and once again in Minnesota. Voting more than once in an election is a felony.

 http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/36554

The New Mexico secretary of state’s office is cross checking the state’s voter rolls with a list of thousands of foreign nationals who have been issued driver’s licenses.

The work is far from done, but Secretary of State Dianna Duran testified during a House committee Tuesday that the review has turned up evidence of foreign nationals obtaining a license, registering to vote and casting ballots.

http://patterico.com/2011/03/15/clear-evidence-of-voter-fraud-in-new-mexico/

 How rare is voter fraud?
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/10/how-rare-is-voter-fraud.php?


 


bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@holmantx Holman -- if you've been an attentive reader, you'll note that I do not identify myself as either a Republican or a Democrat, much less as "liberal" or" conservative." Norr do I identify myself as a libertarian. I am one of those millions of Americans that all studies show are in the majority and in the middle. That is, not that our views are middling, but that we are not ideologues. We vote as the issue strikes us, sometimes on the right, sometimes on the left. We have no firm party allegiances, because we recognize that no party has a lock on wisdom, justice or the American way, that political parties are largely about personaiity, whim, taste, and that warm sense of belonging that comes from hanging around others who think exactly as you do. 

From time to time I've found myself in agreement with libertarians (I read "Reason"magazine fairly regularly) but by no means most of the time. I find libertarians as dogmatic as any other band of political true believers. Like most Americans I go my own way, which is what it should be, what our founding fathers recommended befpre they got tangled up in partisan politics.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@bmarvel 

I see your inner Libertarian has manifested over the issue of Voter ID.

Welcome to the fight.

Try Googling 'voter fraud' and read through your newly minted prism of Limited Government.

I will be reading all future posts to see how you are doing with your fight to reduce the size and scope of this Goliath.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@holmantx So what you're saying, holman, is that you have no earthly idea why such a law is necessary. Is this your legislative wish list-- pass any old law whether there's a demonstrated need for it or not?

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@bmarvel @holmantx

and I thought you were the one who chastised Americans since their paramount concern was if the trains ran on time.  

In this instance Americans' doubt over voter integrity is motivating them to usurp privacy, which is the opposite of the Naxi argument.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@bmarvel @holmantx 


holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@bmarvel @holmantx

What do I look like?  Your researcher?  You flip out a couple of sentences and we're supposed to provide an avalanche of links?  

You and I both know no evidence will sway you.  

Why bother?

10/14/2013 - A nationwide USA TODAY/Bipartisan Policy Center poll finds a majority of Americans support a range of proposals aimed at easing hyper-partisanship and building confidence in elections. Some command the sort of broad bipartisan backing rare in national politics.

Allow independents to vote in primaries? Yes. Require photo IDs to curb voter fraud? Definitely. Find an alternative to having legislatures draw congressional districts? Maybe. Vote over the Internet? Well, no.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@holmantx  Still no evidence. holman. Argument s not evidence.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@holmantx Here's my problem, holman: It seems to me we have a proliferation of unnecessary laws. It seems to me government more and more is digging its hooks into our lives. It listens in on our phone calls. It monitors where ad when we fly, who we talk to. 

I carry a voter id card and have for years. Renewed automatically every election cycle. But next year I will have to renew imy driver's license. What if I can't for some reason -- say, bad eyesight? Why do I have to prove all over again that I am who and what I've always been in order to exercise my right to vote?. 

"Do you have your papers?" Where have we heard that question before, holman? 

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@bmarvel @holmantx 

He did not reference childhood memories.  And look it up yourself. 

You are the one who implies disenfranchisement without any proof or undue burden.

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