Here's Why North Texas Republicans in Congress All Voted No on Debt Ceiling Deal

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For a few months at least, you can rest a little easier thanks to Congress' eleventh-hour decision to reopen the federal government, lift the debt ceiling, and not send the country plunging over the cliff it's been careering toward so ominously. The last-minute display of sanity came with no help from Texas Republicans, not a single one of whom voted for the deal.

Why? To pander to an increasingly conservative primary electorate, of course, but no one actually comes out and says that. Instead, they issue statements cloaking their decision as a matter of principle. Here's a rundown of the explanations given by North Texas' Republican Congressional delegation.

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Pete Sessions, Dallas: "I did not support the bill tonight because I believe that this was a missed opportunity to address our nation's long-term fiscal challenges. As this fight moves forward, I will continue to work to protect North Texans from ObamaCare and reduce out-of-control government spending in order to jumpstart our economy and reenergize job growth."


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Ted Cruz: "Unfortunately, once again, it appears the Washington establishment is refusing to listen to the American people. The deal that has been cut provides no relief to the millions of Americans who are hurting because of Obamacare. The deal that has been cut provides no relief to all the young people coming out of school who can't find a job because of Obamacare. It provides no relief to all the single parents who have been forced into part-time work, struggling to feed their kids on 29 hours a week. It provides no relief to all the hard-working families who are facing skyrocketing health insurance premiums. And it provides no relief to all the seniors, to all the people with disabilities who are right now getting in the mail notifications from their health insurance companies that they're losing their health insurance because of Obamacare."

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John Cornyn: [posted to Facebook by his staff] "For over 5 years, Pres. Obama has sat on the sidelines while our economy has remained stagnant and our debt has nearly doubled. Year after year, the President has pledged to deal with our fiscal crisis and has done nothing but stick his head in the sand.

"Sen. Cornyn is hopeful that in the coming weeks and months we can do what the President has repeatedly failed to do: address our long-term spending problems."

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Michael Burgess, Lewisville: [from an interview with The Dallas Morning News last week] "Good lord no."








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Louie Gohmert, Tyler: "I'm not going to be able to support it. It basically lets the president and [Senate Majority Leader] Harry Reid have unmitigated control over all the money they want, when the Founders expected both the House and the Senate would play a role in the government...For this government to continue on as a republican form of democracy, we have to have both houses contribute, and not one just shutting the other off."

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Ralph Hall, Rockwall: Washington's $17 trillion spending habit has weakened America's economy to the point where only 63.2% of Americans are participating in the work force. American families are struggling. This Administration has demonstrated its lack of fiscal restraint and responsibility, and now more than ever, taxpayers shouldn't be asked to hand the federal government more money without dollar-for-dollar spending cuts. Anything less is irresponsible.

"Throughout this government shutdown, my constituents called and wrote to my office. An overwhelming majority asked I vote for a budget solution that reins in spending, doesn't increase the debt, and works to defund 'Obamacare.' The constituents of the 4th District elected me to represent their views in Washington, and I take this responsibility seriously. That is why I voted against the Senate's budget deal today - it does not respect the views and concerns of the majority of those I represent."

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Joe Barton, Ennis: "Speaker Boehner just announced to the Republican Conference he will put the Senate bill to reopen the government until January 15, and pass a debt extension until February 7 on the floor tonight. Since there are no cost savings to reduce the deficit, and no plan to even address excessive government spending, I will vote 'no.'"




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Jeb Hensarling, Dallas: "Unfortunately, the president has tried to conflate default on our sovereign debt with failure to unconditionally raise the debt ceiling. They are not one in the same...The president has the legal, financial, and logistical means to avoid a catastrophic default on our sovereign debt...

"Second, every day I hear from constituents across my district whose hours have been cut or whose health care premiums have gone up because of Obamacare. Regrettably, tens of millions are being forced into health care they do not want, at prices they cannot afford, on a website that does not work. I will not quit working to replace the government takeover of our health care system with patient centered health care...

"[O]ur nation is on an unsustainable spending path. And the refrain from too many in Washington and on Wall Street continues to be 'we will deal with that later.'

"Not only as a Congressman, but as the father of an 11-year-old daughter and 10-year-old son, I cannot, in good conscience, support an unconditional increase in the national debt ceiling without any plan or commitment to begin dealing with the debt today. Later no longer suffices."



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RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

"... has weakened America's economy to the point where only 63.2% of Americans are participating in the work force..." Ralph Hall.

According to census bureau 2013 predictions only 65% of Americans are between the ages of 15 and 65.  Is Ralph saying we have near 97% employment?  And if he is, is he saying this is a bad thing?

Catbird
Catbird

The Republicans and the Democrats are married and united in protecting the Federal Family from We the People.

What they don't get is that there is a Liberty movement going on across the country that''s happening outside of the two party system. Liberty will not be silenced but the Dems & Repubs are doing their best to crush the movement before it can get on its feet.

Cruz is rallying the movement right now so he is their target but it's really not about one man, its about the Republic being re-started.  

TexMarine
TexMarine

> THIS SPACE RESERVED FOR COMMENT TO BE MADE IN JAN 2014 WHEN THIS HAPPENS AGAIN <

John1073
John1073

Ted Cruz translated: I want to help people who are losing health insurance by denying them health insurance.

John1073
John1073

I wonder where Ralph Hall thinks a large chunk of the money is coming from to build the lake that will bear his name.

ynotryme
ynotryme

what they voted against was to pay the bills. congress had already ran up and a  list of demands by the republicans called the sequester 

rogernorthup1
rogernorthup1

"Repugnants", "Tea-baggers", "Democraps", "bozos", "assholes", "clowns", etc...  Some of you people have childish anger issues that should probably be settled with your therapist before you set foot into a voting booth.

I would prefer the people voting for my representatives reviewed the issues and made rational decisions on what's best for their city, district, state and country.

I think too many people vote on what makes them least angry at the moment.  Emotional voting is what gets tyrants and fools elected in the first place.

ebailey75057
ebailey75057

Thank you for providing a list of current Repugnants who will be looking for other employment when their term ends.  Find it hystrical that the Houston newspaper has apoligized for endorsing Ted Cruz.  Burgess rants at Tea Parties that he has watched male babies masturbate while in the womb, EEEEEWWW! 

Wonderful quality group of Repugnants representitives listed here.

rogernorthup1
rogernorthup1

Other than the unfortunate people that either took government employment or otherwise required government largess to do their jobs, I'm pretty sure the partial shutdown didn't stop anything productive or important from happening.  The free people of the United States went about their business as usual.  In fact, with some of the punitive, biased and unnecessary government intrusions into our daily lives temporarily suspended, business was probably better than usual and people were a little bit cheerier.  But, alas, the overlords have forced their way back into the castle and the oppression will settle in once again.

vernah
vernah

I am totally not suprised, they pretend like they are about being fiscally responsible but this cost us 24billion dollars.  It is more about answering to one group of people instead of all Americans.   The only way to stop this make your voice heard. Vote these clowns out.

Shamelessbrewer
Shamelessbrewer

If you are upset about what your local or state congressman in Washington D.C. has done regarding their decision to vote a certain way about this fiasco, write them a damn letter.  Otherwise, I'm sure they've convinced themselves that what they believe is what we all want. 

dingo
dingo

All of the squabbling, accusations of pandering, character attacks by persons of questionable character will not undo the numbers. Unless someone Democratic or Republican reduces the amount of entitlements now projected as future liabilities, our economy will not function in a proper manner. 

One can argue that the ACA saves us the needed revenue, but the consensus is AT BEST that the unproven ACA is revenue neutral.

One can argue that the sequester or the cuts already administered have solved the debt problem. But this assertion cannot be considered seriously after appreciating the magnitude of the overall numbers.

One can ignore this, one can mistakenly think that an increase in taxes will fix this, one can hurl insults at the messenger, but it won't change the unmistakable math.


Hulon_Pate
Hulon_Pate

Can we cut all foreign aid all together and all corporate welfare please.  Lets just start with this and see how much is saved all together.                                                                                                If you have to pay people to like you, just like in real life to be your friend , then chances are they are not your friend. However they might still play cards ,talk shop or sell you something.  People need to vote these idiots out of office.

leftocenter
leftocenter

Every Democrat in Texas needs to "turn" GOP and primary these radicals with more moderate Republicans -- they do exist -- and are the (much) lessor of two evils.  This is probably more important than turning this state Blue, simply because it is achievable in the short term and the evolution to blue will take more time.

Get on board folks!

John McCain when asked about Gomert's claim McCain is an al Qu'eda sympathizer:  (paraphrased) sometimes these things are malicious, but there really isn't malice when there is no intelligence.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

Anyway, I have my own troubles to deal with. Miss U has developed a magnificent obsession for the krummhorn, and although I adore the delicious saltarellos and estampies that she toots out, the other cats do not share my delight.  Somehow I think the instrument will mysteriously disappear in the coming days.

observist
observist topcommenter

Ted Cruz: "Unfortunately, once again, it appears the Washington establishment is refusing to listen to the American people."

Let's see, in the 2012 election the Democrats won the Presidency, the Senate, and a majority of the popular vote in the House.  How on earth does this fuckwit have the gall to insinuate his little band of nihilists are representing  "The American People"?

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@rogernorthup1 none have articulated a real formula for limited gov't.  I have, gov't should regulate utilities, if not own them entirely.  Healthcare and retail banking are also utilities.  Legalize abortion, guns, gambling, prostitution, drugs and gay unions, and deal with the consequences of these markets, which prohibition only exacerbates, and drives into the shadows.  Build more lakes, conserve and promote efficiency, for it's own right, not according to some, as yet not understood global warming agenda.  Reinstate the rights of plaintiffs, as that's an essential regulator based on 800 years of wisdom. 

CogitoErgoSum
CogitoErgoSum

@rogernorthup1 It's called venting. Many of the people here actually pay close attention to the issues that a majority of low-info voters do not. Quite a few on these blogs actually care enough to pay attention. To be emotional is to be human, Mr. Spock.

dallasalice
dallasalice

@rogernorthup1 This post displays a remarkable level of economic ignorance.  Billions of dollars of goods sat idle in ports.  International trade slowed to a trickle.  People cancelled vacations to national parks and abroad -- what about the people whose livlihoods depend on visitors to those places?  Short-term borrowing costs increased, and will likely stay up because no one has faith that we won't go through all of this again in just a few months.  Tax refunds -- and the consumer spending that comes with them -- have been delayed.  Standard & Poors estimates that the shutdown cost the economy $24 billion; the Peterson Institute estimates that the uncertainty created by the fiscal/shutdown fight cost 900,000 jobs.  I'm sure all of this was worth it so rogernorthrup1 could feel a little less oppressed than usual.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@rogernorthup1 

yeah, who needs safety inspections for aircraft? or the work of the CDC? or the food inspections?

those "intrusions" by the "overlords". so overrated....jeesh. are you serious? you're doing a bit, right?

CogitoErgoSum
CogitoErgoSum

@rogernorthup1 Um, genius ...  if nothing else, those thousands of furloughed workers didn't get paid for more than a week. Think there might be a bit of an economic impact in just that one minor detail?

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@dingo national healthcare will fix the problem.  The USG spends more on healthcare than any of the socialized Euro nations--not the US, the US GOVERNMENT.   Then, we blow an equal sum in the private healthcare market.  A market where Pharma spends more on marketing than on R&D and new drug development.  That will do more to fix the entitlement market than anything else.  Private Insurance is another case of corporate socialism, where we socialize the costs, and privatize the gains.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@dingo Bull.  Let's cut the bloated Defense budget and corporate welfare, not dump on 48 million American citizens.

Daniel
Daniel

@Hulon_Pate I'd be with you if foreign aid were a significant part of our budget. But it's not.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz Im off to Babe's for lunch, this gave me tired head already. and then its vacation to KC for some BBQ and Chiefs football for my birthday.  Im sure I will be missed here tomorrow and Monday

TexMarine
TexMarine

@observist Do you mean to ask how do 435 people represent 316 million people more accurately than 50 or 1?

Daniel
Daniel

@observist "Nihilists" is right on the money. These people are fucking anarchists. Even if you happen to agree with their (retrograde, oligarchical) policy prescriptions, their preferred strategy, quite clearly, is destruction or the threat thereof. The vast majority of these suicide-bombing asshats are callow greenhorns, which make it all the more galling.

They should be summarily expelled from the body politic -- but gerrymandering being what it is, I fear we're stuck with them for awhile.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

@observist In 2008, the American People gave Dems complete control of government.

Dems passed Obamacare as their only significant legislation.

In 2010, the Dems lost the House soundly and lost ground in the Senate, losing their fillibuster proof majority.

How in sweet fuck do you think that is an endorsement of Obamacare?  "They liked it so much they took away our control?"

rogernorthup1
rogernorthup1

@CogitoErgoSum @rogernorthup1 Usually the ones that DO pay attention will refrain from name-calling, because they know it almost always colors their otherwise erudite arguments as just angry babble.   And if one does it all the time, it's not venting...it's an anger management issue.

rogernorthup1
rogernorthup1

@CogitoErgoSum @rogernorthup1 Economic impacts happen all the time, but a free and flexible marketplace can adjust and correct much faster without government 'help'.   I really do sympathize with the government workers, but aren't they getting their back pay?  If so, the economy will be flush with government scrip next week, so I bet it's gonna be a spending catch-up party!  I think I'm going to open a hot-dog and lemonade stand on Main Street.

rogernorthup1
rogernorthup1

@Daniel @rogernorthup1 Delusional, no.   Lazy and limited, yes. Otherwise, I could find and provide millions and millions of non-stories of nothing-out-of-the-ordinary occurring because of the shutdown, and thousand and thousands of positive things happening because the government couldn't come to work those days.  Now you could try to argue this point with me, but I'm going to need more from you than two words and a period.

dingo
dingo

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz @dingoAm I to believe you or the Congressional Budget Office 2013 report on this? :

The unsustainable nature of the federal government’s current tax and spending policies presents lawmakers and the public with difficult choices. Unless substantial changes are made to the major health care programs and Social Security, those programs will absorb a much larger share of the economy’s total output in the future than they have in the past. Even with spending for all other federal activities on track, by the end of this decade, to represent the smallest share of GDP in more than 70 years, total federal noninterest spending would be larger relative to the size of the economy than it has been, on average, over the past 40 years. The structure of the federal tax code means that revenues would also represent a larger percentage of GDP in the future than they have, on average, in the past few decades—but not large enough to keep federal debt held by the public from growing faster than the economy starting in the next several years. Moreover, because federal debt is already unusually high relative to GDP, further increases in debt could be especially harmful. To put the federal budget on a sustainable path for the long term, lawmakers would have to make significant changes to tax and spending policies—letting revenues rise more than they would under current law, reducing spending for large benefit programs below the projected levels, or adopting some combination of those approaches.

http://www.cbo.gov/publication/44521

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

Yes... uh... you'll be missed..... Actually, I rather like KC.  Surprazz, surprazz, surprazz!

observist
observist topcommenter

@TexMarine @observist   1) In aggregate, more people voted for Democratic than Republican representatives in 2012.  It's strictly a function of the 2010 gerrymandering and a systematic rural bias that the Republicans have a majority in the House.

2) The Hastert rule/tactic that has been central to this whole epsiode has the sole purpose of ignoring the majority of "The American People" if that majority happens to consist of the minority party and a faction of the majority party.  In effect, 26% of of the House can prevent anything from passing IF the Speaker follows the Hastert rule... which Boehner did until yesterday.

This whole shutdown/debt ceiling crisis was less about the Will of the American People than it was about the Ego of Ted Cruz

observist
observist topcommenter

@Daniel    They're coming really close to completely alienating the few remaining moderates as well as independents.  The 2010 redistricting + rural bias makes it hard for Democrats to win the House, but the national numbers/demographics look bad for the Republicans. 

This is a really interesting assessment of the Republican coalition of Evangelicals, Tea Partiers and Moderates.

http://www.democracycorps.com/Republican-Party-Project/inside-the-gop-report-on-focus-groups-with-evangelical-tea-party-and-moderate-republicans/

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@everlastingphelps 37% support Obamacare, 70% support ACA--your argument is based on misconception/misperception, nothing objective.   I DON'T support ACA, but what the American people want and think are not firmly rooted in reality, facts or understanding

ebailey75057
ebailey75057

The Repubican gerrymandering of districts had nothing to do with the Democrats losing the house that year. 

observist
observist topcommenter

@everlastingphelps If you don't like the present, just pretend it's really the past!   If that Cruz quote was from 2011, you/he might have a point.  But alas, it was from now, in 2013, which is after the Democrats won the majority popular vote for President, House and Senate.  As of now, Obamacare has higher approval ratings than the Republican party.


whocareswhatithink
whocareswhatithink

@everlastingphelps "Dems passed Obamacare as their only significant legislation" They passed it as a tax, which actually makes it a "tax policy".

They could not pass it as a legislation so they made it a tax. If it was not a tax SCOTUS would have shot it down, but because its a tax it a constitutional exercise of congress' power

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

 (edited, got my years wrong.  Thinking ahead too much.)

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@rogernorthup1 @CogitoErgoSum not all markets are "free" namely, professional and utilities markets.  Even the terminology differs.  In the free market, you're the customer, professional market, you're the client/principal, in the utility market, you're a consumer.  Different markets, different dynamics, different laws.  This is as old as the Magna Carta. 

Daniel
Daniel

@rogernorthup1 @Daniel If the government were to REALLY shut down, you'd notice. No food inspectors, air traffic controllers, etc. Both parties in Congress did the right thing by continuing to operate these and other critical areas, but I'm afraid it had the effect of insulating the die-hard Tea Partiers from the actual consequences of a government shutdown.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@dingo

"or adopting some combination of these approaches".

yes, this is the best solution. it is also the basis of the President's position and policy on how to address the debt and budget issues.

why won't the republican party recognize this is the best course? the position of not even discussing "revenue rise" is just not going to get us anywhere.

the cruz et al plan of focusing on ACA ignores the real issues. but then if they continue to harp on the ACA they don't need to roll up their sleeves and work at a real solution, do they?

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

NJ not NY, Frank Lautenberg's widow, who's worth $40m

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

Extreme delusion.  You people still refer to the law as a "bill".  Sad.

whocareswhatithink
whocareswhatithink

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz Its not a law, its a TAX POLICY!

But don't worry, this little bill that is just a temporary solution passed with its Pork, you will be happy to know a Democrats NY senator wife received $174k as a death benefit...that senator was worth $59million when he died. And the Kentucky Kickback is a pretty sweet deal in there as well

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

All moot.  Obamacare is the law of the land.  The republicans tried to deny 48 million uninsured American citizens healthcare, they failed miserably, led by fat-face Cruz, and now face extinction as a party.

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