A Far East Dallas Homeowner Was Killed by Police After Shooting a Burglar, Cops Say [Updated]

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Suspected burglar Jerry Wayne Hale
Update at 1:11 p.m.: Police have identified the homeowner as 57-year-old William Hall. According to county property records, he lives at 10316 Sandra Lynn Drive, which shares an alley with Plummer Drive.

At a press conference this morning, police provided a more detailed narrative of the shooting, which you can read in full on DPD's Facebook page.

The first two officers to arrive saw Hall standing over a body. They order him to drop his gun, but he moves behind a privacy fence and out of sight. One thinks he sees him go into the adjacent house.

Three other officers, Joshua Wilson, Daniel Summers, and Julian McDaniel, arrive. They see the body lying in a pool of blood in the alley and move to provide aid. As they approach, one of the first pair of officers to arrive runs toward them, yelling that the gunman is behind him.

They turn to see Hall emerging from some overgrown bushes. They tell him to drop the gun. He racks the slide on the weapon and points it at the cops. Wilson, Summers, and McDaniel open fire.

Both Hall and Jerry Wayne Hale were pronounced dead at the scene.

Original post: On Thursday evening just before 8 p.m., three Dallas police officers opened fire and killed a man they say pointed a gun at them in a Far East Dallas alley. This came after police ordered the man to drop his weapon several times, according to witnesses. It was a clear case of self-defense, DPD said in a press release. Simple as that.

The details surrounding the shooting are much more confused. According to DPD, the man officers shot, who has not yet been identified, was a nearby homeowner. He was carrying the gun because he had just shot and killed a burglar, whose body was lying in the alleyway behind the 10300 block of Plummer Drive when police arrived.

It's a weird sequence of events that is still being pieced together, but here's the narrative police are releasing so far: Two neighbors hear gunfire coming from the alley in the 10300 block of Plummer Drive. They round the corner to find a man with a gun standing over another man. When the neighbors announce that they've called 911, the gunman points his gun and chases them down the alley. The cops arrive a few minutes later and order the man to drop his weapon. Instead, he points it at the officers, who respond with a volley of bullets.

The Dallas Morning News says police have identified the suspected burglar as 30-year-old Jerry Wayne Hale. According to Dallas County court records, he was convicted in 2011 for possession of methamphetamine.

More details as they become available.


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Beafraid
Beafraid

It's a shame about the homeowner, but the burglar Jerry Hale was a lowlife drug head. Jerry got what was a long time coming to him. Damn shame an innocent man met his maker due to lowlife Jerry. Even in death, Jerry, you took a life. 

scamsANDflams
scamsANDflams

be very afraid of the police, make no sudden movements, keep your hands visible at all times, say yes sir and no sir, this is a police state and you must act accordingly, you can not afford to get crossways with the law, your life can be ruined just by an arrest, even if there is no conviction. 

akvacancy
akvacancy

COPS ARE LIARS,

THEY MURDERED THE HOMEOWNER

comlng
comlng

So Jerry Wayne Hale caused William Hall to shoot him in self defense,

so the police shot William Hall in self defense.

In today's America, that would make sense.

Lurch
Lurch

"Pointed a gun", translation, "they saw a gun."

jeannecpl
jeannecpl

I knew this man Keith Hall (the homeowner). He was sweet and kind and good. He was also a vietnam veteran and he was hard of hearing. I saw him the day he died. He was at the church where I work moving a fridge to the youth group building. He walked 4 miles (he had no car) almost every day, to the church. That's 2 miles there and 2 miles back home. Why did he do this??? Because he had a servant's heart. He was so sweet. I am still in shock that he is gone and that I will not see his sweet face tomorrow at church. I also believe the police overreacted and shot first and asked questions later. SHAME ON THEM! And shame on all of you who hide behind a computer and make judgments about people you do not know. Hopefully someday you yourselves will not be the victims of the police state and have all manner of lies told about you after you that you will not be alive to defend yourselves against.

Keith is with Jesus, his pain is over....but we will hurt because he is gone....and we will miss him. I am so sad that he is gone, but more sad still that people can be so cruel and so coldhearted. What a horrible world this has become in such a short time.

mendelevium258md
mendelevium258md

Why would he rack the slide, if he had just fired the weapon at the burglar?  Wouldn't there already be a round in the gun after that?  This alone tells me the story is not true... lol

wminaz
wminaz

No one is going to believe the police unless they pass an indeptendent lie detector exam.  It is a shame that their reputation is so low but they have brought it on themselves.  And I mean that as a group.  There are some reputable individuals but the bad apples have ruined the overall reputation.

Neal_K
Neal_K

Yes, this must be true because cops - especially Dallas cops - never kill anyone they shouldn't and then lie about it afterwards.

michael.suede
michael.suede

"They turn to see Hall emerging from some overgrown bushes. They tell him to drop the gun. He racks the slide on the weapon and points it at the cops. Wilson, Summers, and McDaniel open fire."


Yeah, that sounds totally plausible.


There's no way the cops, acting like a bunch of scared babies, opened fire immediately when they spotted Hall with a gun.  That simply wouldn't happen.  I totally believe the cops story about this.

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susanwilliams407

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anthony349
anthony349

So, the police SAID that he pointed the weapon towards them. Who are we to dispute police? They never lie, right? NOT.

harrypath
harrypath

If he was a meth addict he might just have pointed his gun at the cops. Witnesses are important here because you cant always trust what the police say about such matters.

Medang
Medang

Total BS. The guy never pointed his gun at the police. They saw the gun and they opened fire. End of story.

DeathBreath
DeathBreath

How funny & ironic at the same time.  When people argued that it would be a good idea to arm college students, I asked myself, "if there is a shooting incident & the police come on the scene & see someone holding a gun, how are they going to differentiate between the shooters?"  I don't really care.  I just love watching the endless hours of verbal diarrhea on the instant news channels.  Let's get the story out before we know what the fuck is going on.  Then, when we hear things on the police scanner, let's tell it to the reporters so the police can blame the people with scanners.  One thing that cannot be denied are the increased ratings for the news channels.  They are guaranteed a spike in ratings with each incident.  I own guns, but don't act like a cop.  If I had to defend myself, I would shoot them and then drop the weapon so I would not get shot.  What a dumb fuck. 

casiepierce
casiepierce

Hum, where are all the usual commenters that like to regale us with tales of the horribly high rate of black and Mescun crime?

Tomas
Tomas

The cops are making this up.

Anon
Anon

White Dallas criminals always have nancy-boy middle names. Harvey.... Wayne.

wontunow
wontunow

This story sounds fishy.  Maybe the cops shot first, and made up the story.

Greg820
Greg820

When the cops say "Put Down your Weapon!" I highly recommend putting down your weapon.

ivlichelle
ivlichelle

@Beafraid The homeowner pointed guns at witnesses AND police. Clearly not an upstanding citizen himself. 

fracquestions
fracquestions

@jeannecpl Look, I feel badly for your friend and neighbor, but not dropping a gun at the sight of a police officers, regardless of whether or not you are instructed to do so, is just asking to get shot. And, when police tell you to drop a weapon they usually do in a VERY OLOUD voice, not some whisper than a hard of hearing person may not hear.

Based upon witness accounts of themselves being chased away by Hall I have to say Hall apparently acted against his own best interest resulting in his death. It does not take a rocket surgeon or brain scientist to know that you should put down a weapon when confronted by police.

Lurch
Lurch

@jeannecpl You are so right. This is a much meaner country than it was 30 or 40 years ago. Much meaner, much more judgmental, much harder to get a start in life or make a new start. I almost wish we had never educated the rednecks, now they think they know everything.

jackgiantkiller73
jackgiantkiller73

@mendelevium258md That is the narrative of the officers and cops lie more than they tell the truth. 

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

@wminaz Remember that the saying is, "a bad apple spoils the barrel."  That they themselves haven't rooted out and prosecuted the "bad apples' makes them all culpable.

fracquestions
fracquestions

@Medang And you know this how? Were you an eye witness? If not, then your opinion is worthless and your statement was prejudicial without any basis in fact.

davissbc
davissbc

@DeathBreath So by default the police are correct? How can we know? The guy is dead, can't tell his side. I don't understand when fellow citizens call another citizen a "dumb fuck", etc. when he or she loses in a conflict with the cops. Why do the cops deserve more respect than the citizens? Why are you so quick to declare the cops as the group that is smarter, has more discretion, has more rights than a citizen? Get a fucking clue, the cops are a gang, they will shoot you whenever they feel like it, and they will lie to cover it up.

patrickbowers
patrickbowers

@Greg820 .....Cops always bark there command even if the gun was not pointed at them, like when they SCREAM "STOP RESISTING" as they are caving in your ribs and skull and the camera is on, you will mostly see they are compliant !

KeystoneKop
KeystoneKop

What if the coppers issue multiple commands like the Las Vegas Costco shooting? One says 'show me your hands' and another says 'drop the gun'. Good luck!

JohnSmallBerries
JohnSmallBerries

@Greg820 Well when ED209 said "Put down your weapon", the guy got shot anyway and that was in Dallas!

KingGhidora
KingGhidora

@ivlichelle @Beafraid If you believe the police account of what happened.  Why would he aim his gun at the police?  Something is very fishy in this story.  A trigger happy cop who saw the homeowner with a gun sounds like a more likely scenario.  From there the blue wall takes over.  There's just absolutely no reason for the homeowner to take aim at a cop.  Who does that?  Unless he was insane then this story told by the cops makes zero sense.

scamsANDflams
scamsANDflams

@jackgiantkiller73 the police have a legal right to lie to you or lie about you to anyone at anytime..however you have no legal right to lie to them, that is a crime....and pleading the fifth just makes you look more guilty and does damage to you as well.  The only hope you have is getting a good, ie. expensive over 10k lawyer with you at all times.  If you only have 5k for a laywer you may as well bend over

scamsANDflams
scamsANDflams

@fracquestions @Medang the us has 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's prison population...I hope you never cross anyone with more wealth/power/influence then you or get in a bad situation

DeathBreath
DeathBreath

It would be rude & unkind to refer to you as a pinhead, so I won’t.My goodness, you seem to have taken flight with my statements.Therefore, I will follow suit.

I don’t care who you are, but if any officer holding a gun tells you to drop it & you do anything else but that, you are a fucking buffoon.During a felonious stop or intervention, guns are generally drawn by officers.Any simpleton can extrapolate this from watching the news.Furthermore, you have excluded something else, cops are citizens as well.

So, I ask you this.Have you committed felonious behavior yourself?Also, have you ever been incarcerated within the Texas Department Of Criminal Justice-Institutional Division?It sure sounds like you have.Have you ever experienced negative encounters with law enforcement officers?If so, how have these developed?Do you consider yourself to be a victim of society when you are really a victimizer?I don’t know.

Since you are unfortunate enough to live in “Bubba Central”, Dallas Fucking Texas, you should know about police corruption.There is no doubt that police corruption exists, particularly in larger cities such as Dallas, Houston, New York & LA.Do you remember when DPD was investigated for fake drugs?It was an International -embarrassment.

This fool should have dropped his weapon & then taken it to court if he felt violated by the police.That is the more intelligent way of doing things.

Let’s look at the Zimmerman shooting as a fine example of “failing to comply” with police orders.This fucking “wanna be” cop, who served his affluent community by acting as a citizen’s patrol, did not heed when told to stop his pursuit.What a fucking loser!Dispatch told him to stop.He didn’t.This loser’s life has since spiraled out of control since his trial.I’m quite certain he has some type of personality disorder, like you, perhaps.

No, I don’t agree that all cops are corrupt.I have been listening to Police Scanners since 1976.At present, I am a participant in collecting radio data for submission to Radio Reference, the DB used for Smart Phone Police Scanner applications (Broadcastify on the other end).Some of those with Scanner applications have no common sense.Basically, they tend to be naive as evidenced by their interference with law enforcement.Some follow cops to the scene of a crime.How fucking stupid.

For responsible scanner listeners, this messes things up.You can look to Fort Worth & Houston as an example.Both cities have employed widespread digital encryption.Hence, the public has been locked out.I am against this unless it involves sensitive channels such as SWAT, Narcotics, etc.

Here in Waco, the police department has a different philosophy.When I heard they were migrating to a new P25 (digital) radio trunking system, I purposefully put them on the spot by asking the following question on their Facebook page.“ I hear you are going to migrate to a new digital radio system.Are you going to lock the public out like Fort Worth, Williamson County (heavily encrypted area) and Houston?

He response blew me away.He said, “You are putting the cart before the horse.Give us a chance.We want people to listen to us on the radio.We want them to hear what we deal with everyday, the funny, the frightening, & the dangerous.So, you write to me and I will walk you through the “freedom of information” process to obtain the digital fleet map for our radio system.”

He kept his word.Hence, I was able to submit the information to the aforementioned data base.http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=7624

As I previously state, I follow police behavior, things the general public cannot hear.I know the hidden channels & frequencies.Some officers don’t cheat.Please, understand, I don’t like this method of law enforcement; however, Waco PD and other law enforcement agencies tend to follow the letter of the law regarding “establishing P.C.” (probable cause).Why?They have learned that the evidence does not hold up in court when it is obtained illegally (stray away from CSI since it is fiction).So, cops will set up in a high crime area & pull people over for the most minor of traffic violations.Hell, they will even pull over bicycles riding at night without a light.Then, they have permission to search.Officers also sit on interstates & high crime neighborhoods to run plates with a sophisticated plate-searching equipment.

The militarization of various police forces across this nation concerns me a great deal.Since you seem to be naïve about this subject matter, I will share something else you may not know.Arlington PD is using drones.In Iowa, the National Guard “assists” the police by helping them find drug operations.Since the military, reportedly, cannot function against the citizens, they do this.But, in this post 9-11 world, started by George W. Christ, we have been forfeiting our freedoms every day.

Greg820
Greg820

@KeystoneKop I say "Wait for the Toxicology screen and the search of his house."  Multiple witnesses stated they heard the police say multiple times to drop the weapon.  Not every shoot is a bad shoot.

fracquestions
fracquestions

@scamsANDflams @fracquestions @Medang I cross people with a LOT more power, money and influence than myself every single day, but so far none of us has grabbed a firearm and started shooting each other. If that ever did happen, and was fortunate enough to still be standing when the bullets quit flying, then I would not be dumb enough to be holding that weapon when the police arrived.

To quote Goofy, "Duh, I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid!"

DeathBreath
DeathBreath

@scamsANDflams @DeathBreath Yes, there are many good Cops.  Homeland Security has surely exacerbated the situation with their protocol, Incident Command.  In Prison, for instance, we used to have activate Incident Command for the following:  a) seizure activity or other medical emergency; b) fights; & c) not clearing count.  It was overkill. 

scamsANDflams
scamsANDflams

@DeathBreath There are plenty of good cops in fact I think all the officers of Kaufman Texas are good people who just want to do their jobs right and be fair to everyone.

However, other places like mainly Dallas County do not behave in this manner.  The united states has 5% of the worlds population and 25% of the worlds prison population, how anyone can defend this police state and damn near guaranteed recitivism is beyond me.

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