The Mavs Whiffed on Dwight Howard, Which Mark Cuban Now Says is a Good Thing

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When center Dwight Howard spurned the Mavericks and decided to take his talents to the Bayou City, it marked the second straight year the team had epically flamed out in free agency. And, for the second straight year, Mark Cuban is trying to rewrite history.

"I think we've put ourselves in a spot where we're in a better spot than we were at if we got just the one max-out deal," Cuban told ESPNDallas.com Wednesday night. "I think it'd be better shorter and longer term. I don't want to make that sound the wrong way. I think we'll be better this year because we added five good players or more."

So, the Mavs whiff on signing the best center in the NBA, and it's a good thing because we get to fill the roster with second- (and third-) tier players like Monta Ellis and Samuel Dalembert? We got the same line after last year's Deron Williams fail. I put Howard with Carmelo Anthony on the roster of absurdly talented players who nevertheless lack the focus and/or maturity to lead a team to a championship. But Cuban still seems to be simply rationalizing/ducking responsibility for/diverting attention from the willful dismantling of the 2011 championship squad.

At Frontburner, Eric Celeste suggests we give a little too much credence to the Mavs' brain trust. And at Fox Sports, Bill Reiter suggests that Mark Cuban is the NBA's Jerry Jones, in the sense that he's smart, funny, has an enormous ego and absolutely refuses to acknowledge when he screws up. Hard to argue with either take.

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lzippitydoo
lzippitydoo

So how it is a good thing?? Mavs for 2 years in a row put all eggs in one basket and miss out on several current and potential players for the team! By waiting on the Howard BS this year - missed out on Iguadala and maybe 1 or 2 others that signed with other clubs while we waited. It didnt take a billionaire to stand back and really look at all of the teams bidding for Howard, realizing that Dallas had nothing to offer the big idiot on any level above what other teams were. No players here (an old Dirk), limited future players coming in this year and not enough similar coaching backgrounds (Houston has McHale). So now we get spares, keep powder dry for plan C or D. Right now - we hav a D-League team and, while everyone thinks of Cuban as a competitive owner - his team now tracks 4th in the area out of 4 pro teams!

Willie
Willie

Disagree.  Things are different this year, and while their record will be much batter, they aren't going to contend by any measure.  Last season Cuban went cheap to save money, so the free agents they signed were, well, pretty average, so it's no surprise none of them were brought back.  Calderon, Delembert, and Ellis are good signings.  The Mavs have brought in some good young talent in Larkin, Ledo, and Mekel, although who knows how Ledo will shape up.  Crowder is tearing up the summer league and has lost a lot of weight, and he should get more time.  They should have a very good backcourt game, which was their achilles heel last season.

All this being said, Cuban should smarten up and try to keep his mouth shut and let Nelson do the talking but we know that isn't going to happen.

P.S.  Dwight Howard is poison

primi_timpano
primi_timpano topcommenter

Dear Mark:

I appreciate your desire to considered to be a young, smart, and faithful Jerry, as opposed to the old, stupid and unfaithful Jerry, but I believe you are leaving a lot of the smarts on the table, a potential reserve which will forever elude the the other Jerry, though he could certainly use a smarts reserve much more than you.  For instance, this article quotes you as stating: "I think we've put ourselves in a spot where we're in a better spot than we were at if we got just the one max-out deal  .  .  ."

This double "spot" in this sentence does you an unnecessary disservice, making you seem unable to organize your thoughts and express them cogently.  A better sentence would read:  I believe we've placed ourselves in a better position than where we would have been had we just closed the one max-out deal.

Please feel free to contact me if you wish to discuss this matter in greater detail.

Best regards,

Primi Timpano

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

You are wrong to describe Monta Ellis as a "second or third tier player". Same for Jose Calderon, who is one of the most efficient point guards in the league.

The point Cuban is trying to make is Howard does not make the team a contender, and frankly I am happy to have missed out. While Howard is certainly one of the top centers in the league, he's immature, has not worked hard to take his game to the next level, hurts his team by being on the floor at the end of close games as he bricks FT, and most of all is a locker room cancer.

While I agree that Cuban should just give it up and not make these comments (he did the same thing last year when Williams didn't sign), I also can understand just what he is saying: this single player doesn't make the team the favorites (the same can be said for the Rockets even with Howard), it is a team game where there needs to be multiple positions filled for the team to be competitive.

The team that is being assembled is light years better than what was rolled out last year. What is clear is the Mavs decisionmakers have adjusted their philosophy from what it was a year ago, have given longer term deals to get better talent, and they should get some kudos for that. The philosophy needed to change and it was.

Americano
Americano

Howard is a pussy.  We got lucky.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

Hey Mark, How the fuck can you say that.  NO you are not a better team without him.  you wont contend for a championship and no you won't get Lebron or Melo next year.  You are putting together a decent team but dont tell us AGAIN that you are better off without the guy you missed out on again.  You have said it yourself before, the worst thing to be in the NBA is mediocre, you need to contend or suck so bad you get a top 3 pick and the Mavs are just mediocre

lzippitydoo
lzippitydoo

Primi

I am rich and really dont care what you think. My show - Shark Tank is doing well and the Mav's are way down on my priority list these days. Gotta save a few bucks for my kids and as long as the Mav Dancers and Dirk are tied to the team - I dont have to do anything.

By the way, I have a G-5 jet, do you?

M. Cuban

DirtyP1
DirtyP1

@mavdog If they would have gotten Howard, you'd be singing a different tune and the Mavs wouldn't be projected as 8 seed or worse, they'd be top 4.  In his conference, he's probably only better then the Pelicans Vasquez. Parker, Conley, and Lin are better, he's going to get torched.

You are drinking the proverbial kool aid buddy.

DirtyP1
DirtyP1

@ScottsMerkin Jerry and Mark need "in touch" PR people with them at all times. These guys are business geniuses but they can't fool the fans. 

Cuban thinks he's smarter than everyone else, and that's his biggest weakness. They would have been better off if they had kept Chandler, but I doubt, unless he has a come to Jesus at some point in his life, that he fucked everything up. Jerry's fuckup was letting Jimmy get away, Cuban's fuckup was blowing up this team and getting nothing for it(Nash and Chandler got away for nothing in return)


mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@DirtyP1

No, my tune has been very consistent.

Regarding Howard, this Bill Simmons article is great read, love the Simmons and exec text msgs on Howard:

Him: "U writing about Dwight soon?"

Me: "Think so. Would u go near him?"

Him: "FUCK NO."

Me: "What if he wanted to sign with u?"

Him: "Maybe."

Me: "Maybe?"

Him: "I guess we'd have to."

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9308573/searching-dwight-howard

I am guessing you are referencing Calderon with the "In his conference..." remark. Sure, Parker is better. He's better than just about every pg this side of Paul. Calderon is a better passer and a better shooter than Conley, and to even put Lin in the list shows how much "kool aid" you like to drink.....

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@DirtyP1 @ScottsMerkin 

Chandler was offered a $20 M contract to stay. Chandler chose to leave.

If you haven't noticed, Chandler and his team haven't been all that stellar the last 2 years...he is not the reason the Mavs won the title.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@DirtyP1 Yep, he can tell me how great of a business move this was and explain away the numbers far better than me, but when the fans become disenchanted, all the business acumen in the world will not keep the herd happy

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@DirtyP1 

You must not know this, but the Mavericks had Lin and let him go. His game is way, way overrated. absolutely no way they would trade "calderon and another player for Lin", esp. with the back loaded contract Lin got from Houston. the rumour is Houston has offered Lin to anybody who'd take him, but nobody will take on the player and his contract.

per 36 is not the best stat to look at btw, doubt that is what any exec looks at. especially for a pg. look at the difference in Calderon's per 36 between his time at Tor v Det.

Hollingers PER is a good guide, and Calderon was rated higher than Conley, and Lin doesn't get anywhere close to either of these guys.

DirtyP1
DirtyP1

If the Mavs, right now, could trade Calderon and another player for Lin, they'd do it in a second. Lin is 24, Calderon is 31. Their per 36 is identical and Lin has only played one full season in the NBA. And again, if they could trade for Conley straight up, they would. Conley's a better defender and his per 36 is a +7 against Calderon; Lin's is a +1.8, Calderon's +/- is negative against both players. Those type of stats are what Cuban typically uses to grade players. Parker is a +8 against Calderon. 

Johnny Bananas
Johnny Bananas

@mavdog save it dude. mark broke up the 2011 championship team and they've sucked ever since. Marks plan to clear cap space to bring in superstars was a completely and utter failure. thats the bottom line. and yes ellis calderon dalembert are all second and third tier players. there is no denying that. For the foreseeable future, The mavs are going to suck.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@DirtyP1

that post is sorta rambling..

have no idea what you mean by "if you don't give your team that got you there...why would a free agent join the Mavs". Let me know when you get a quote from a FA that says "oh, I wouldn't go to a team that doesn't resign players when their contracts are done".

no, 1 year deals haven't worked, that's why the deals are longer now. and my point is they changed that plan, which is good as it sucked.

could you get that Cuban quote? have no idea what you're referencing.

yes, there was "high demand" for Ellis, he got multiple offers. Calderon also. If you actually believe they are "second and third tier players" you do not know the game. see the Hollinger PER for proof.

DirtyP1
DirtyP1

@mavdog @DirtyP1 Take away any of those parts, and they don't win just like they haven't had a good record since that season because they let those players go. Offering someone a one year deal hasn't worked for Cuban in free agency, has it?  If you don't give your team that got you there the chance to do it again, why would a free agent join the Mavs? Cuban's the one that said to the effect that if you're going to win the title or go deep in the playoffs you're going to lose money because of the players you have to pay. He hasn't had to do that the past two years and his powder is dry. Now he's just trying to cobble together whoever is still available. Do you really think there was a high demand for Calderon or Ellis? Or Dalembert? Come on man. Those are second and third tier guys.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@DirtyP1

The Knicks record wasn't "bad" but they do have the benefit of playing in the east.

The last year Mavs team sucked, they gave the keys to guards who weren't up to the task. To the Mavs credit they retooled, got rid of those guards and have obtained a much better, by light years, guard corp.

The mavs won the title because of the team, the collective talent that fit together. They wouldn't have won without Dirk obviuosly, and also not without Chandler, stevenson on d, Berea, Terry, Kidd and also the genius of Carlisle. Recall they were the 4th best team in the reg season, they caught lightning in the bottle when the PO began. Lightning doesn't typically strike 2x....

DirtyP1
DirtyP1

@mavdog @DirtyP1 @ScottsMerkin I'll give you the Knicks record in 2011 as not being stellar, they had the same record as the Mavs in a 66 game season. But this year, 54-28 isn't bad at all, I mean, versus the Mavs exceptional 41-41 record(yay they go to shave their beards!!!)

The Mavs don't win without him, if you think they do then we weren't watching the same games.

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