Dallas Businessman Killed in Dispute Over "Hotel California" at Thai Karaoke Bar

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The Design District headquarters of Carter's LED Cool Lights.
The Facebook photo shows 51-year-old Dallasite Bobby Ray Carter Jr. grinning as he stands beside his son and a handful of friends chest deep in the crystal clear water. Behind him, the sandy beach, lush foliage and sheer cliff face suggest a tropical paradise.

The picture was taken outside the Thai resort town of Ao Nang and posted online on Sunday, two nights before Carter's fatal visit to the Longhorn Saloon, which promises ""good music, funfunfun and friendly staff".

The evening started out ordinarily enough. There was drinking, quite a bit of it judging from reports, and then karaoke with a live band. Carter hopped on stage and began to sing and then, according to The Associated Press, refused to leave.

Witnesses told police that Carter was angry that the band began playing The Eagles' "Hotel California" instead of the piece he'd requested. Agence France-Presse reports that he demanded the band return the tip he'd just given them. They refused, and an argument ensued. At some point Carter's son Adam entered the fray.

Things cooled down, but only briefly. "After a while they came outside and started another argument with us," one of the band members, 27-year-old Ratikorn Romin, said in a statement to police obtained by the Phuket Gazette. "The father knocked me to the ground first, and I could not breathe because he was sitting on my chest. Then I spotted a sharp piece of metal nearby, so I grabbed it and stabbed him."

The iron rod penetrated Carter's chest. His son was struck in the head. Both, according to the International Business Times, were taken to a local hospital where the elder Carter was pronounced dead.

Employees at LED Cool Lights, Carter's Design District business, told the AP they'd been briefed on the death but had no additional comment.

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juanmayeaux
juanmayeaux

When in Karoke Crazed, Asian Bars, don't piss off the Ninjas.

garlandgestapo
garlandgestapo

Ive often referred to the Dallas Observer as the Fuck it Gazette.

Sara Ashley Mesler
Sara Ashley Mesler

He is my family. He didn't deserve to die this way. They attacked him- they didn't have to. When they couldn't beat him with their hands they killed him. Critics can fuck off.

bifftannen
bifftannen

I'm calling a trifecta, he was probably in Thailand for the ladyboys.

Andrew Redd
Andrew Redd

Don't be a drunk prick in a foreign country.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

I was drunk in a bar in Phuket.  I didn't sing karaoke. The Thais take their karaoke very seriously.  I'm not kidding.  It's a national obsession.  

Crystal White
Crystal White

Where's a more accurate version of this story?

DirtyP1
DirtyP1

Sucks for this guy, he got Zimmerman'd by a Thai guy with a pipe. Where's the outrage America???

Brian Harris
Brian Harris

Unbelievable - I'm blown away. I've known Bobby for years and this story is insane.

ChangingF8
ChangingF8

You can check out any song you like, but you can never leave...


Sometimes I think the Dallas Observer is really the Phuket Gazette. 

Benji Kauth
Benji Kauth

Both parties are at fault and the lesson learned is not to quibble over stupid meaningless issues. If someone is being an idiot, move on.

ruddski
ruddski topcommenter

Don't mess with the locals in Thailand or the Phillipines, you'll lose.

Sara Ashley Mesler
Sara Ashley Mesler

This and all of the stories are just repeating what the AP is saying- no one deserves this- over karaoke. He was a father, a grandfather, husband, cousin, son- and he is loved and missed by so many people.

jjoker01
jjoker01

OK let's see:

1.  Visiting a bar with loud music -  Check

2.  Heavy drinking - Check

3.  Fights - Check

4.  Waiting to continue the fight outside - Check

5.  Ambulance - Check

Heck, He should have saved his money and went to a Dallas strip club!

Alan Huddleston
Alan Huddleston

yeh i'm thinking a stab to the leg woulda worked just as well

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@Sara Ashley Mesler 

By all accounts, he was belligerent, tried to steal money, and attacked the musicians.  Even here in the US, the musician would have been justified in killing him the way he did.

J_A_
J_A_

@holmantx Ooooh yeah, don't mess with Asians and their karaoke!

John1073
John1073

What outrage is needed? The deceased was drunk and assaulting someone who defended himself. He wasn't hunted down by a rogue gang of kareoke musicians.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@Brian Harris 

It shouldn't be that hard to believe.  We've all known someone who got too drunk, behaved badly, and got their come-uppance for it.

For most, it's something as simple as hitting a light pole and walking away without a scratch.  For others, it ends up in intoxication manslaughter.

The lesson here is to take alcohol abuse seriously - even when it's just sometimes.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@Sara Ashley Mesler 

He wasn't killed over Karaoke.  He was killed in self-defense after robbing and attacking a musician.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@Alan Huddleston 

Fog of war.

krldfig
krldfig

@bvckvs It's pretty scummy to tell his family that he deserved to die when *all* accounts given in the above story are from the attackers or the police who didn't bother to interview the victims. It's pretty scummy to tell that to his family regardless.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@citizenreader @bvckvs @krldfig 

There is at least one good reason for why they pursued him - he robbed them of their money.

Even here in the US, that's enough to get you killed.  And in Texas, it's legal to use deadly force against someone who does that.

citizenreader
citizenreader

@bvckvs @krldfig He died as a result of the bad choices of those who could not let a dog lie. They followed the man and his son outside to continue their trouble- which should have been left to lie. You're supposed to be able to leave a bar and go home. Anytime an opponent stands down or is able to be removed, there is just no reason to pursue any physical or further verbal altercation. 

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@krldfig 

I didn't say he "deserved" to die.  That's just something you made up to defend the belligerent assailant.

Furthermore, had they tried to interview the dead man, they would have got very many answers - so, it's kind of silly for you to be outraged that they did not do so.

He died as a result of his own, bad choices.  Pretending otherwise only serves to encourage others to behave just as badly - and to get what he got.

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