There's a Helicopter Gun Range Outside Denton, Because Texas

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Because special forces training is hard. Because ground-based gunfire just isn't sufficiently soaked in testosterone. Because helicopters. Because this is Texas, goddammit.

There have always been plenty of reasons for your average (non-G.I.) Joe to shoot assault weapons from a moving aircraft. What North Texas males have lacked is a place to properly unleash their inner Rambo.

Until now. An outfit called Sniper Helicopter Adventures recently opened up a helicopter gun range outside of Denton, which bills itself as "the ultimate opportunity to test and challenge your marksmanship skills as you fly through various obstacles while shooting from a Helicopter!"

As you depart in the helicopter with your safety officer, you will be flown through and around various target opportunities. Targets will fall away, rotate and even explode when hit -- be prepared for any and everything! Your score will depend on your ability to adapt to air assault challenges.

For just $795 per person, Sniper Helicopter Adventures offers a full day of fun, with three separate missions (Alpha, Bravo and Charlie), one hour of helicopter training, and two hours of firearms training. Lunch and awards are provided.

So what's not to love, aside from the fact that you have to bring 500 rounds or so of your own .223 ammo? Just ask a freedom-hating local government bureaucrat.

"Just the fact that you're flying around in a helicopter shooting a rifle in a limited amount of space doesn't seem like it's very safe," Denton County Commissioner Hugh Coleman told WFAA.

He's on a campaign, according to the station, to get nearby property owners to complain to the county fire marshal or file a lawsuit.

Coleman has apparently not taken a close look at the website, which describes the various safety measures the outfit takes, like requiring safety officers aboard every flight and banning alcohol. To prove they are serious, they even add an exclamation point: "Safety is everything!"


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Sotiredofitall
Sotiredofitall topcommenter

WHEEEE - Look at me I'm I soldier.........

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

I always thought I was as big a gun nut as the next guy.  This however pushes motard to never before seen heights.  Every knee-jerk liberal in the country will be waiting for the inevitable errant round to go through a roof/wall or mobile home (remember the .50 cal round that went into the Winnebago at TMS), so they can push even harder to ban lawfully owned firearms.  Or, from another tack, for the idiot who wanted to save a few bucks on his 500 rds and buys some '80's 'inert' tracer rounds that aren't quite inert and sets the countryside on fire (a la DFW Gun Range, this year).  Yes it's legal, that doesn't mean it isn't stupid.

StupidHippies
StupidHippies

"Just the fact that you're flying around in a helicopter shooting a rifle in a limited amount of space doesn't seem like it's very safe," Denton County Commissioner Hugh Colemantold WFAA.

He's on a campaign, according to the station, to get nearby property owners to complain to the county fire marshal or file a lawsuit.



One of these seems far more odious than the other. 

Americano
Americano

Sounds fun.  I bet they appreciate the free publicity.  I have friends who are already making plans to go there.

observist
observist topcommenter

This is just another way for sensible gun-owning citizens to protect their homes and families.  The next time they hear a noise at night, they'll just fire up the helicopter and circle around the property... aw hell.  Never mind.

Russ Coffman
Russ Coffman

At least they will die doing what they loved.

Barry Kooda
Barry Kooda

I thought it was a range to teach you how to shoot down helicopters. That would be helpful! Oooh and a "Down The Drone" course...

Jon Pitt
Jon Pitt

I would not want this near my home...

zeroagent
zeroagent

"Team America, Fuck Yeah!"

That's what immediately started humming in my head when I read this article.  

Sharon_Moreanus
Sharon_Moreanus topcommenter

Is it a conflict of interest if the DCC is urging citizen to sue and use his law firm?

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

500 rounds of 223, that will last, oh, about 30 seconds.


Let me know when they upgrade to quad 50's ... then we will talk ...

DirtyP1
DirtyP1

Helicopter? Meh. Let me know when someplace gives you the opportunity to rain steel fire from an AC-130 gunship. 'Merica.

tlgraf
tlgraf

"To prove their serious, they even add..."
Are you kidding me??? Not even a journalist can get "they're" correct? 

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

The only good feral hog

is dead feral hog.

gabbahey
gabbahey

I guess I need to start saving my cash...

Jason Clark
Jason Clark

That actually looks like a lot of fun.

StupidHippies
StupidHippies

@RTGolden1 So using the word retarded in it's proper meaning is bad. But using the term motard, incorrectly is ok? 

John1073
John1073

Yep. The part about flying around in a helipcopter gunship. That sounds more odious to me.

DMZ3
DMZ3

@observist It is interesting that the gun culture has transformed from home defense and personal self-defense into this kind of paramilitary stuff.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@StupidHippies @RTGolden1 It's a military slang term, I'm sure you wouldn't understand.

sling your arrows of indignation elsewhere.  I'm the last person you'll see standing on political correctness.

StupidHippies
StupidHippies

@John1073 I bet you cheered when Menino and other mayoys threatened lawful business owners too. 

StupidHippies
StupidHippies

@John1073 That must be because you are a liberal fascist who has no problem with the jackboot of statism hanging over your head. You welcome your government masters. 

al213
al213

@DMZ3 It is not paramilitary, it is just for fun and the challenge of shooting on an unstable platform.

John1073
John1073

Go look up fascism and get back to us with a better descriptor for me.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

@nakedlens @ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul  

Wow, lighten up dude, and work on that CDO disorder ...

I'd love to discuss how I know these things, but I can't.  I will say that we did look at getting an M777 into the air but the transverse loading on the airframe was a bit dicey.  And no, we were not looking at the C-130 airframe.


Not all of us were trigger pullers, some of us designed and built the triggers ...

nakedlens
nakedlens

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul

Who said it had to be a naval gun? You did, the minute you said "I want to fire the 5" gun ...", since there are no other 5" guns in service.

Not to mention that any time a gun size´is given in inches, it's understood to be a naval gun:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_are_naval_guns_measured_in_inches_and_Army_guns_measured_in_millimeters

And another thing, for your comment "Some pilots will fly even closer if there is little or no return fire."

I'm curious as to how long you were an Air Force SO aircrewman, because I've never heard of gunship strikes being called on anything but a major combat engagement, and no pilot is going to jeopardize his life, his crew's lives, or his aircraft to go play JOhn Wayne. No matter what you did in "Call of Duty".

Now, I'll leave you with this parting gift, a Power point presentation of from the Pentagon team that runs the gunship program:

Future AC-130 GunshipIntegrated Weapons Systems Concept March 06

I particularly like this part:

"The Warfighter’s Problem•

AC-130 survivability/employability in medium to high-threat areas and ability to respond to time sensitive targeting is limited

Currently operate in low to selected medium threat environments at night unless mission dictates otherwise
Increased threat forces gunship into higher altitudes and greater standoff ranges"

http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2006garm/tuesday/elliot.pdf

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

@nakedlens @ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul  

Who said that it had to be a 5" naval gun?  The AC 130 with the M102 Howitzer is basically shooting at point blank range in most missions where the mission altitude in only about 2k to 5k ft agl.


Some pilots will fly even closer if there is little or no return fire.

At less than 1,500 yards, the target isn't going to notice the difference.

nakedlens
nakedlens

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul

And still has half the range of a 5" gun.

You can keep throwing out all the wiki links you want, you still can't fit a 5" naval gun into a C-130 and make it usable.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

@nakedlens @ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul @DirtyP1  

The AC-130E Pave Aegis, AC-130H Spectre, AC-130U Spooky II; and, the AC-130W Stinger II / AC-130J Ghostrider were all equipped with the 105mm M102 howitzer.


Granted 105mm = 4.13 inches, but what is 7/8's of an inch between friends when you are playing the latest version of "reach out and touch someone"?  I don't think that the target will recognize the difference at that close of a range.

Storm_71
Storm_71

I'm shinning my boots right now

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