Plano's Upcoming Liquor-Law Vote Is Getting Ridiculous

Categories: Booze, The 'Burbs

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This guy is eagerly awaiting Saturday's election results.
Plano must have taken a hit when Dallas voters approved citywide beer and wine sales two-and-a-half years ago. No longer were the good people of Far North Dallas forced to drive north of the Bush Turnpike to stock up on beverages. They could simply go down the street to the grocery store.

There's now a push to recover the lost tax revenue -- and then some -- by welcoming liquor stores to Plano. Supporters of the referendum that will be put to voters this Saturday, including Mayor Phil Dyer, make an economic argument: People drink liquor; liquor is a taxable commodity; Plano would bring in an extra $500,000 per year buy letting people buy liquor there.

Equally predictable is the argument coming from the other side. In a political ad, Collin County Commissioner Matt Shaheen warns that liquor stores could lead fair Plano to wind up like Downtown Dallas, a known source of evil and corruption.

"I used to have to walk by a liquor store on the way to work," Shaheen warns. "And there are a lot of people who have turned to alcohol and they're hanging out in the front of a liquor store. And you can tell the devastation it's having on that surrounding area."

More recently, a group called Save Plano has launched a billboard and robocalling campaign -- if, that is, you can call a single billboard on the tollway and $400 worth of robocalls a campaign.

The group's oddly capitalized mission "is to Stand For and Protect the Values this community was founded upon and to protect Our Families, Children and Community from the detrimental change our community will experience if illicit businesses are allowed to open their doors in Plano." It argues, rather hysterically it seems, that 150 package stores will set up shop if voters approve liquor sales.

These, the group's website suggests, will be irredeemably seedy places, some of which will probably sell guns and be clerked by non-white individuals:

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Unfortunately for the teetotalers, they are badly outgunned. Save Plano's pro-liquor counterpart, Citizens for Economic Equality, has raised and spent a quarter of a million dollars. Most of that has come from big liquor store chains and the Texas Hospitality Association, which is a polite way of saying the liquor lobby.

Save Plano, on the other hand, has raised and spent about $5,000, all of which came in the form of donations less than $50. Plus, their doom-and-gloom argument rings a bit hollow. Downtown Dallas' decades of suckage had very little to do with liquor stores, which, by the way, haven't killed the neighborhood's ongoing revival.


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Sotiredofitall
Sotiredofitall topcommenter

Isn't Plano also where a Condom Sense store was attacked with gunfire because it threatened the locals'  religious beliefs?   Didn't realize Westboro Baptist had a remote campus in Plano.

Becky Bales
Becky Bales

I think somebody could use a stiff drink.

jd7873
jd7873

It was a better world when Plano was just known for Heroin.

MattL11
MattL11

This will pass. Most people, even Planoans (Planans? Planoites? Planoese?) know that liquor stores don't turn good neighborhoods into shitty neighborhoods. I do commend the anti-fun...er...liquor folks for playing up racial fears with the sneaky "We Accept Food Stamps" sign in the upper left. Okay, maybe not that sneaky, and "commend" is a bit strong...

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

Maybe Plano should develop some B and C grade apartment properties on the west side of the city so their kids can stop driving all the way down to the Marsh/Rosemeade area to buy their pills and meth.

kathleenplano
kathleenplano

Only in Texas would they go through all of this while still not allowing you to purchase beer & wine after midnight in a 24 hour store like Walmart.  I would think they would make more money by allowing the sales at grocery stores of beer/wine 24-7 and try that before trying liquor stores.  

 What hours will you be able to purchase liquor at a liquor store?  Between 2:00 & 2:05 pm? 

Christine Carey
Christine Carey

the money launderers that keep getting caught up there are also a known source of evil and corruption.

bateman.joseph
bateman.joseph

Im sure this will get passed. Everyone I know who lives in Plano hate driving all the way to Buckingham or The Colony to get a bottle. I just wish there were no crazy liquor laws in Texas. I want to buy my liquor at the grocery store like some people do (not Texans)

Chris Desjardins
Chris Desjardins

We had the same arguments made in Richardson and Garland. And both cities voted it in and their both doing fine.

fasterthanilook
fasterthanilook

I'm totally in favor of getting some respectable liquor stores in here to drive out the payday loan and "we buy gold" riff-raff...

ngvecchio
ngvecchio

"Collin County Commissioner Matt Shaheen warns that liquor stores could lead fair Plano to wind up like Downtown Dallas, a known source of evil and corruption." ?!?!? WHAHHAHA! Nevermind the heroin epidemic of the 90s in Plano or all the ice usage in Collin county! Downtown Dallas in all it's creepiness crime is actually pretty nice and what a way to bash the local area of downtown Dallas. Maybe let the people of Plano get liquor than driving to RICHARDSON as to calm down Collin county so they stop going mental and turning to DRUGS

Gio Vecchio
Gio Vecchio

"Collin County Commissioner Matt Shaheen warns that liquor stores could lead fair Plano to wind up like Downtown Dallas, a known source of evil and corruption." ?!?!? WHAHHAHA! Nevermind the heroin epidemic of the 90s in Plano or all the ice usage in Collin county! Downtown Dallas in all it's creepiness crime is actually pretty nice and what a way to bash the local area of downtown Dallas. Maybe let the people of Plano get liquor than driving to RICHARDSON as to calm down Collin county so they stop going mental and turning to DRUGS

Chuck_Schick
Chuck_Schick

But I thought Texas was "open for business?" We want more gun manufacturers but are scared about more options to provide alcohol for off-premises consumption? Let the market decide.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

You know I'm not an "everything is about racism!" guy, but this one... it looks like racism.  

Addison has liquor stores.  There aren't any drunks hanging out around them.  This is plano people worrying about Those People showing up.

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

I hear they're gonna open combination liquor/birth control/abortion clinics.

You can get drunk, break the condom, get knocked up, and aborted all in one convenient location.

First outpost will be next to the big church. They want it easy for their best customers to find.

tape_is_glue_and_bac
tape_is_glue_and_bac

When others drink:

1) They pay more taxes, by choice

2)  They give the store more profits (allowing my goods to be cheaper)

3)  They lower their intellect, making it easier for me to compete

4)  They sometimes maim people on the road  (not good)

5)  They sometimes get caught by the police and pay huge fines to the government (less tax for me)

6)  They sometimes ruin their families (sad)

7)  They are less productive (unless beer motivates them to work harder)

8)  The beer on the shelves takes up room that no longer holds my special products 


Some good things, some bad things, personally, unless I get an injury, or unless my children marry a drunk, I think I come out ahead financially since alkyholics pay steep prices and taxes for their booze.


I kind of feel like a free rider, so, drink up, go buy another bottle and pay some more taxes.


Side note:  My 12 step program has only one step:  Stay away from the alcoholic.  Period.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

Ive been to many liquor stores in the burbs and I can tell you I dont see people just loitering outside the liquor store panhandling.  Your children are safe, most of their moms, you know,  the giant SUV driving moms are already addicted to that Vodka bottle.  THis just makes it safer for them to venture less distances to obtain it

James080
James080

Hey Eric, next week Plano will elect its first black Mayor. Both of the candidates are black. Plano has a 42% minority population. You wrote "clerked by non-white individuals" as if there are no non-whites working in Plano now. A bit of unnecessary snark on your part, but it will likely play well with the locals here.

JustSaying
JustSaying

@kathleenplano A buddy of mine called me from Arizona during a layover for some trip he was taking just to tell me that he was buying Jack Daniels at the local Walmart. I think I actually heard his voice break and his lip quivering as he said it.

Chuck_Schick
Chuck_Schick

@ngvecchio Also important to note there are no liquor stores in downtown Dallas. You have to cross the freeways to reach them.

guest
guest

@everlastingphelps If their goal is to keep minority shop owners out of Plano, tough luck cause that ship has already sailed. I think you might be projecting a little bit.

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

@everlastingphelps It's really Plano people worrying about other Plano people seeing them buy cases of vodka and gin in plastic bottles. They'll have a hard time reconciling the drive to godawful Dallas to buy their booze out of sight of pryin' eyes.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@Montemalone would that big church be First Baptist.  

"I hear they're gonna open combination liquor/birth control/abortion clinics"

This has the making of a great Anna Merlen blog post

notmadeomoney
notmadeomoney

@James080 As someone who lives in Garland it makes me so happy to see this happen to Plano.

CornyDoggy
CornyDoggy

@James080 

I believe he's referencing the two pictures from their campaign which show two clerks among the other negative pics.  I'm not sure what those two pics have in common with the others

TheCredibleHulk
TheCredibleHulk topcommenter

@Montemalone @fasterthanilook 

Or purple draink

ngvecchio
ngvecchio

@Chuck_Schick @ngvecchio  You clearly never walked around close to Dallas county jail and seen a row of liquor stores and bail bonds businesses. On commerce and riverfront. It's there. 

WhiteWhale
WhiteWhale

@Montemalone @everlastingphelps The wonderful memories of youth, taking Plano road south to where Greenville splits off near Owens, through downtown Richardson, south past LBJ to near Walnut Hill.  Grabbing a slice of Pizza then to Buckeye and the return run north with the sweet nectar.   Thank god IDs are harder to fake so the little shits today can't pull what I used to get away with.

TheCredibleHulk
TheCredibleHulk topcommenter

@Peacock214 @JustSaying @kathleenplano 

Talk about culture shock.

I moved here about a decade ago from Milwaukee and had never heard of a place that didn't have a bar on each street corner with a liquor store in the middle for the folks too lazy or drunk to walk to either end of the block.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@ngvecchio @Chuck_Schick and as chuck said, they are on the other side of the freeway from downtown, you the area with all the tall office buildings

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