City Council Likely to Pass Gay Marriage Resolution, and Mayor Rawlings Isn't Happy

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The Dallas Voice broke the news Tuesday that Councilman Scott Griggs had won the support from a majority of his colleagues for a resolution supporting marriage equality and would be putting the item on the City Council agenda for a vote.

"It's timely, and it's relevant," Griggs later told the Morning News. "The LGBT community is not only a big part of Oak Cliff but a big part of Dallas."

And so, with Dwaine Caraway, Jerry Allen, Monica Alonzo, Pauling Medrano, Angela Hunt, Delia Jasso, and Sandy Greyson reportedly on board, expect the measure to pass over the inevitable sermon from Vonciel Hill.

But Hill won't be the only one at the horseshoe who harbors doubts. Mayor Mike Rawlings, who's said repeatedly that he is in favor of gay marriage but has been cautious about putting his support to paper doesn't think the City Council should be debating the issue.

Why? For the same reason it shouldn't be "talking about late-term abortions, or gun control, or Gitmo," he told the News' Rudy Bush yesterday. These are national issues that a municipality has no control. It's a waste of time.

Leave aside for a moment the fact that Griggs' resolution, or at least its timing, seems to be an effort to out-gay Jasso in their District 1 race. (Jasso was so eager to express her support for the measure that she managed to conflate gay marriage with gas drilling in an interview with the Morning News editorial board.) The City Council wastes tons of time talking about stuff that's unimportant or over which they have no control. It's how they roll. Spending 10 minutes talking about marriage equality won't cause municipal government to grind to a halt. To put it another way, why not?

Griggs' resolution is below, via the Voice.

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scottie1620
scottie1620

My personal belief is that gays have every bit the same right to be miserable in marriage as straight people.

Jannie
Jannie

God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

Tom434
Tom434

Leave aside for a moment the fact that Griggs' resolution, or at least its timing, seems to be an effort to out-gay Jasso in their District 1 race. (Jasso was so eager to express her support for the measure that she managed to conflate gay marriage with gas drilling in an interview with the Morning News editorial board.)

It's all about the District 1 race, since the Stonewall Democrats endorsed Jasso, Griggs need to do something to show how gay friendly he is.

heart_and_soul
heart_and_soul

How is this a waste of time? Griggs promised he would not waste people's time and I believe he will deliver. He said he would not bring this unless he had the votes because he didn't want to waste anyone's time. He has the votes. He rounded them up. 2 minutes Mayor and it is done unless Hill goes into some long Jesus rant.  And BTW you need to start cutting that stuff off anyway Mr. Mayor. She is scary.


roo_ster
roo_ster

What, no irreverent caption for the policritter in the photo?

DMZ3
DMZ3

Methinks Rawlings has his sights set on running for a state-wide office in the future, which means running as a Republican no less. It'd leave him open to being attacked from the party's right-wing flank.

At least that's the only "rational" reason I can see here.

John1073
John1073

Education also is not in the job description of Dallas Mayor, but the Mayor sees fit to take positions on it as well. Same goes for whether or not men beat on women. Wasn't there a huge(sorta) rally for that? So, the Mayor and Council can take up any issue they like.

cantkeepthetruthdown
cantkeepthetruthdown

mavdog

Feb 18, 2013

gee, isn't it the function of the judiciary to determine the constitutionality of legislation?

seems a tad ironic that this councilperson would be pushing a resolution regarding the constituion that doesn't seem to adhere to what the document establishes.

cantkeepthetruthdown
cantkeepthetruthdown

To quote Eric Nicholson:

Even if this passes -- which, presuming the Rockwall City Council has at least four reality-based members, it won't -- the practical effect will be the same as that of Box's pronouncements: nil.

.357
.357

That is totally gay!

Kyle R. Trentham
Kyle R. Trentham

It won't change anything and no one will listen because its Dallas. Don't they need to vote on another building to distract drivers or something. Maybe Summer's Eve can get on board. Who knows?

MattL11
MattL11

I'd rather them do "time wasting" (it's not) stuff like this than most of the things that Rawlings would consider "time well spent." They can do less damage that way. 

Americano
Americano

OOoohh.  A resolution!  How resolute!

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

It's outrageous for Rawlings to call this civil rights issue a "waste of time".

dallasdrilling.wordpress.com
dallasdrilling.wordpress.com

Last week I watched the city council meeting where they spent 1 hour in a horseshoe circle jerk for Kay Bailey Hutchinson's name going on the convention center. 1 hour of accolades featuring the gay bigot herself; Vonciel Hill utilizing her best oral skills, and picture taking of KBH and the council. The mayor has also chosen not to take 5 minutes for a council vote on the Trinity East Energy gas drilling issue that Griggs wanted. The mayor has also not wanted to spend any time on approving a new gas ordinance. So the pattern I see is, that spending 1 hour on the city council self pleasuring itself is fine, but when it comes to a 5 minute resolution that would enhance the City of Dallas' profile as being a modern LGBT friendly city, it's too much trouble.

Alejandro Monjaras
Alejandro Monjaras

One day this wont be an issue, and we will look back at it, like why the fuck was that such a big deal.

Whatever
Whatever

This reminds me of the scene in Monty Pythons "Life of Brian" where they wanted to pass a resolution that gave men the right give birth to babies.

Theartistformerlyknownas Heifersaywhat Johnson
Theartistformerlyknownas Heifersaywhat Johnson

Um Griggs and Caraway are gay but the issue is still WHY? They should be worried about more pressing issues. I'm really tired of the gay agenda seeping into everything. Just because you move to Oakcliff and think you can control things doesn't make it so. #fallback

MarkusS
MarkusS

I am perplexed by Rawlings here. What was all that public trumpeting about ending domestic violence? It ultimately doesn't do much, except raise public awareness. That guy who comes home drunk in South Dallas or in North Dallas is still going to hit his wife/gf regardless of Rawlings' campaign.

Is this not a similar issue? Public awareness, social causes, changing the way we think and the way people perceive Dallas? That we're progressive, proactive and open-minded to those who feel made to be inferior?

downtownworker
downtownworker

If it affects thousands of Dallas residents, stating the council's position on the issue is not a waste of time. Shame on mayor Rawlings. I will not be voting for him again.

Shannon Adolph
Shannon Adolph

Worthy statement but know when to move on to matters under your control.

Rudy Cruz
Rudy Cruz

Sure, it's not city business but it's an honorable gesture, telling the LGBT community, "You too have the equal right to misery."

Fritz Toch
Fritz Toch

I was born in Dallas, raised in Dallas, lived 30 years of my life there. I've been gone 10 years, and I still think of it as "home". But goddamn, what kind of a circle-jerk is this? The city council is always next to useless, unless there's taxpayer money to be spent on a superfluous sports arena, and they can't even do a symbolic action, one that shows basic respect for a whole chunk of the city's residents, right.

scottie1620
scottie1620

@Jannie "God" did not make anything, by if she did, then she made ALL things, good and evil. That includes Adam, Eve and Steve, the world's first menage a trois.

Equality issues have nothing to do with your personal dogma. I am strictly heterosexual, and have never even contemplated a gay relationship, but what others do is their own business. Neither me, you or anybody's religious dogma has the right to dictate morals to others. The problems we have in the world today can be directly traced to the fact that too many religions and their followers feel compelled to dictate the morals, ethics and rights of others who do not espouse their same agenda.

If being gay is going to send anybody to the fires of Hell, then that is not really your problem (unless you are a closeted gay who is covering for your own "weakness of the flesh.") Scott is merely representing the constituents he serves as a City Councilman. Scott's support for marriage equality is the ONLY reason why Delia Jasso is even addressing this issue. It has not mattered to her until now, but the voters of D1 know who will stand by them and work for them, and that candidate is Scott Griggs.

heart_and_soul
heart_and_soul

@Tom434 Problem with your logic is Griggs brought this way before the endorsements. I know it is hard to believe that a Pol could care about something other than themselves but FYI Griggs is the real deal. He isn't running to be someone. He is running to do something. That matters to me. It is rare but it is good.

scottie1620
scottie1620

@heart_and_soul For the sake of sanity in City Council discussions Vonciel Hill should be banned from opening her pie hole except to eat. Anybody who compares the City Manager to Jesus H. Christ is definitely many bricks short of a full load.

scottie1620
scottie1620

@DMZ3 And I hope he enjoys the same stellar success as our previous mayor!

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

@dallasdrilling.wordpress.com  

Yes, being an modern LGBT friendly city is nice , but I think that we need to concentrate on the following prior to spending our time on items over which we really have no control:

- Roads

- Police

- Fire

- Parks

- Storm and sewer drainage

- Water

- Libraries

- Trash


After these items are taken care of, then let's spend our time and resources over items with which we really have no control.

scottie1620
scottie1620

@Whatever You do realize that "Life of Brian" was a Monty Python spoof on the life of Jesus, don't you?

John1073
John1073

The Judean People's Front resolves that your comment is silly.

scottie1620
scottie1620

@Theartistformerlyknownas Heifersaywhat Johnson Caraway maybe, but not Scott!

downtownworker
downtownworker

@Theartistformerlyknownas Heifersaywhat Johnson I think you need to use a better word than "seeping". All I can think about after reading your post is vaginal discharge and your avatar.

bealotcoolerifyoudid
bealotcoolerifyoudid

@Theartistformerlyknownas Heifersaywhat Johnson It's not a gay agenda it's a Sexual Anarchy Agenda

asu87
asu87

@MarkusS it would be easy for him to say, Ok, let's have a discussion and a vote." But the right thing to do is to say---"this isn't what we do. We do not have juristiction over this matter." That's what he did. 


This is nothing more than political posturing by those that are running or running soon, in my opinion.


I hate political posturing.

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

@Fritz Toch The Council is for it, the Mayor is against it.

roo_ster
roo_ster

@ScottsMerkin @roo_ster I was thinking, "He really wants you to know he cares...about worthless gestures."

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

@John1073 The People's Popular Front of Judea opposes the Judean People's Front on this matter simply because it was proposed by the Judean People's Front.

scottie1620
scottie1620

@ericmaas @MarkusS By your own statement that means you hate ALL politics because ALL politics is political posturing. When was it ever different?

scottie1620
scottie1620

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul Well, used to be Paul, perhaps it is because MARRIAGE IS A STATE MATTER!

In ancient Rome, where marriage was founded, it was for the purpose of a census and tax collection. In the United States marriage certificates are issued by governmental agencies, specifically STATE agencies administered at the local county level.

My guess would be THAT is why the state is involved in marriage anyway.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz @ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul  

Myrna, the resolution does not accomplish anything.  It is a nice thing to do but it does not affect the situation one iota.  Have you ever heard the phrase "pick your battles"?

I don't see why the state is involved in marriage anyway.


But if the LGBT crowd wants state sanctioned marriage like the heterosexuals do, then I say let them be just as miserable as the rest of us.

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