Your George W. Bush Presidential Center Live Stream and Open Thread

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At 10 a.m. today, the tweets and media reports previewing the George W. Bush Presidential Center in increasingly granular detail will reach a crescendo as the center is dedicated. Every media outlet in the known universe is there, which explains your exploding Twitter feed. Unfair Park is the exception. The Secret Service cavity search wasn't worth being stuck behind a giant riser and snapping photos of famous people.

Instead, we'll be kicking back and watching the dedication on the center's live video feed, which you'll find above. We suggest you do the same. Feel free to share your Bush-era memories in the comments. We'll be jumping in occasionally with ours.

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ruddski
ruddski

Shit town gains a little class.

Travis_Rex
Travis_Rex

I hear they haven't opened the history wing...still busy rewriting it..

EricNicholson4
EricNicholson4 moderator

And does he always call his dad 41? Does 41 call him 43? Political dynasties are tricky.

EricNicholson4
EricNicholson4 moderator

What exactly does he mean when he says SMU's "student body is AWESOME"?

GuessWho-I-Sue
GuessWho-I-Sue

This seems like an appropriate time to arrest him.  Where are the he Co-War Mongers For Profit?  Cheney?  Rummy?  Feith?  Powell?  Missing like WMD's. 

Miztir_E
Miztir_E

Can't listen to anymore of this garbage. Bush you are a war criminal along with everybody else sitting with you.

alan.ayo2013
alan.ayo2013

Is H.W. dozing?

(Said in the voice of Daniel Plainview)

#bushcenter #idomyowndrilling

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

Laura is overclapping, very loudly

monstruss
monstruss

George W. Bush wasted absolutely no time douching up his speech. Brilliant. 

Anna_Merlan
Anna_Merlan

"There was a time in my life when I wasn't likely to be found at a library." 

Miztir_E
Miztir_E

Bush has principles? give me break


Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

There should be a grand hall to exhibit Bush's imaginary Weapons of Mass Destruction. 

Miztir_E
Miztir_E

Arrest these war criminals !

Anna_Merlan
Anna_Merlan

Batter up, George! No pressure, just following two of the finest orators we've ever had as presidents. 

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

Does the library include a photo of his fly-over after the Katrina devastation? 

NewsDog
NewsDog

@BrotherBrother

As I asked Myrna yesterday when she said W should be arrested... please cite the specific statutes of the crimes he committed.  

She never responded, doubt you will either.

primi_timpano
primi_timpano topcommenter

It is still that time. It always will be.

Daniel
Daniel

@Anna_Merlan They should name it "The George W. Bush Presidential Place For Book Readin'"

MaxNoDifference
MaxNoDifference

@Miztir_E  Perhaps we should rename the Department of Defense to the Ministry of Peace or MiniPax for short.

GuessWho-I-Sue
GuessWho-I-Sue

I can't wait till they open the Jeffrey Dahmer wing.

GuessWho-I-Sue
GuessWho-I-Sue

It would be great if he and Cheney would give up close and personal demonstrations on how WATERBOARDING is NOT torture. 

GuessWho-I-Sue
GuessWho-I-Sue

Simply GOOGLE.....G. W. Bush....OR WMD....

The names of the people murdered due to an illegal war is in the thousands.  Do your own work.  Don''t expect an entitlement from me. 

Yet, here is the most recent document (BIPARTISAN) that will show ONE of his illegal actions. 

Anna_Merlan
Anna_Merlan

@Daniel "Fancy Place for Book Readin," I think you'll find.

It would be really awesome if they put a huge TV in the lobby, and visitors could just wander in and see W. watching Sports Center in his house slippers. 

primi_timpano
primi_timpano topcommenter

I would pay Cheney to last two minutes. No revivals.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@ScottsMerkin I doubt it.  But I also wonder if the library dares to include the instruments of torture used after Bush stated that the Geneva Convention did not apply to "enemy combatants". He paved the way for waterboarding, attack dogs, and other draconian interrogation tactics that will forever be associated with his presidency.

primi_timpano
primi_timpano topcommenter

An amazing statute, at least with respect of the ignorance of the law is an excuse provisions, but offhand it still leaves three gaps. First is the language itself, namely:

. . . it shall be a defense that such officer, employee, member of the Armed Forces, or other agent did not know that the practices were unlawful and a person of ordinary sense and understanding would not know the practices were unlawful.

The ordinary sense and understanding provision appears to give the prosecution the opportunity to challenge the safe harbor aspects of the statute.

Second, I wonder if it applies to crimes committed before 2005.

Last, prosecutions in other jurisdictions may very well not apply this statute at all.

We need to quit trying to defend that which we know to be wrong--torture--and recognize the fact and nature of the torture, hopefully in a manner that prevents abuses in the future.

NewsDog
NewsDog

@primi_timpano People in Gitmo haven 't been 'tortured' since he became President in 2009? The CIA hasn't farmed out questioning suspects in that time frame either?   What's good for the goose...

And on that note I'm going to go home.  

primi_timpano
primi_timpano topcommenter

It's not the war, it was the torture.

NewsDog
NewsDog

@primi_timpano Doesn't  that mean Obama could be charged as a coconspirator in the deaths since he has been President because he didn't put an immediate halt to the wars? 

primi_timpano
primi_timpano topcommenter

Newsdog read the report. The Convention against torture was ratified by the Senate and therefore is as much a law as anything in the USC. Congress has also adopted implementing legislation. Here are some USC cites.

Please read before you object.

18 U.S.C. § 2340A,

18 U.S.C. § 2441(a) (1996) (War Crimes Act).

42 U.S.C. § 2000dd (2005)

NewsDog
NewsDog

@primi_timpano All I'm asking you to do is cite the specific law, or laws, not the general treaty. 

And there are a lot of legal scholars who argue that Pinochet's trial wasn't legal. 

primi_timpano
primi_timpano topcommenter

As for getting laughed out of a court room, check out Pinochet's last trip to the UK.

primi_timpano
primi_timpano topcommenter

The cited treaties are the law of the United States and supersede all other laws other than the Constitution. Read the cited report, Newsdog. It explains how the treaties apply to the US and are enforceable here and in other jurisdictions. As a practical matter, no US authority will indict Bush, Cheney, et al, but they run a real risk traveling outside of the United States.

Again, read it. This has nothing to do with state law as none of the crimes were committed in Texas.

NewsDog
NewsDog

@Mervis_Earl I'm still waiting for primi, or Myrna, to cite the specific offense(s)  ie Texas Penal Code, Section 20.03, Murder or Section 20.03, Kidnapping. Or perhaps Federally, 18 USC 1111, Murder. 

And can they do it in a way that wouldn't get them laughed out of a courtroom.   

primi_timpano
primi_timpano topcommenter

Aside from their crimes, I am sure many criminals are nice guys with whom having a beer would be a lot of fun.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@Daniel @ScottsMerkin @Myrna.Minkoff-Katz see Myrna, this comment is how your opinion can be more accepted by those who dont agree with you, its level headed, but makes it point and isnt drenched in deep hatred for someone you've never met

Daniel
Daniel

@ScottsMerkin @Daniel @Myrna.Minkoff-Katz He was up against a lot, and it's true that his abuses of executive power have been expanded upon by his successor. It all comes down to Iraq, though. That's a pretty huge pile of shit to step in, even huger than Anna feverishly imagines Jimmy Carter's balls to be.

Daniel
Daniel

@ScottsMerkin @Daniel @Myrna.Minkoff-Katz You've unfortunately come to the one out of a hundred threads where Myrna can rant about Bush as much as she likes and still be on topic. Somebody might want to tell her that it's hard to project hauteur while foaming at the mouth. But for the record, I mostly agree with her.

Daniel
Daniel

@ScottsMerkin @Myrna.Minkoff-Katz Jeez, Merk, did you read that memo where it said George W. Bush was a very controversial president who was ultimately unpopular even among his own party? There was a second memo that I unfortunately spilled some coffee on -- all I could make out were the words "Observer" and "left-leaning." Did you really come here expecting warmth and fuzziness (Myrna's cats notwithstanding)?


ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz i like the word draconian, its just, I dont know, above you.  How is the commander Obama the droneconian doing

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