Aggie Jokes: A&M Student Senate Looks Ready to Pass a Bigoted Anti-Gay Bill

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Protest much, A&M?
Every week, managing editor Patrick Williams disappears into his office and reemerges a cranky, nicotine-addicted, third-person-referring superhero we like to call Buzz.

Awwww, man. Why Texas? Why must you always be the turd in the punch bowl of progress?

Buzz is talking -- this time -- about Texas A&M, the intellectual center of bubbadom. One week -- one! -- after the U.S. Supreme Court heard hopeful, moving arguments in cases that could advance gay and lesbian people one step closer to full personhood under law, the university's student senate is poised to take a symbolic leap backward in bigotry with a bill that would allow students with religious objections to opt out of paying the share of their student fees that fund the school's GLBT Resource Center.

The bill still has to be passed by a committee before it makes it student senate floor for a vote, but Kimberly Villa, president of the GLBT Aggies, a student group separate from the resource center, says she expects it to clear the senate with enough votes to override a possible veto by the student body president.

So, we asked her, what's it like being a member of the GLBT student organization at A&M right now.

"Our organization is, you know, we're pissed," she says.

But they're not going down without a fight. They've put a call out for support from former students and are meeting with student senators -- some who might not have ever talked with an actual gay person before -- to try to persuade them to reject a bill whose practical effect on students would be basically nil. Less than a dollar of an individual students fees go to support the resource center's budget, she estimates.

So this not about money. It's about bigotry.

OK, wait. Before you conservative sorts start spouting off about religious freedom and how no one should be forced to fund things they morally oppose, allow Buzz to make three points. First point: Since when? Second point: The bill doesn't allow students to opt out of paying fees for other programs they might morally oppose at A&M, like athletics, say. It's straight-up animus aimed squarely at gay people. (Much like the Defense of Marriage Act, sadly.) Third point: Until there's a check box on the IRS 1040 form that allows Buzz to get a refund for our share of the costs of coal and oil subsidies, Hellfire missiles fired at U.S. citizens and Senator Ted Cruz's paycheck, just shut up already with the whole "opt out for religious purposes" nonsense. Communal life is not a cafeteria. It's prix fixe.

The good news is that if it passes, the bill won't be binding on the school's administration, Villa says, but it will be the senate's statement of what they think is the student body's opinion and that's "really upsetting mainly because the voices that are being so loud against the queer community here are so few."

Unfortunately, those loud, fearful voices will be the sound that stings the hearts of the GLBT students attending the school, and they'll be the ones heard by smart GLBT kids who might be considering applying at A&M -- though not for long, we expect. Why would any intelligent, self-respecting GLBT high school kid what to associate with a bunch of ... well ... dicks.

Come to think of it, that's not a bad question for A&M alumni to ask themselves the next time they get hit for a donation.

If the bill makes it to the senate floor, it will be debated at next Wednesday's session at 7 p.m., which will be webcast at senate.tamu.edu, Villa says.


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boogie
boogie

Colleges are a waste of money in that they do require all these fees for things that most of the students are not going to ever use. Everyone uses the library and campus buidings, so everyone needs to pay for that.Having a meeting students for homosexuals is not something I would ever use. So why as a student should I have to pay for it. Let the homosexuals pay for it. Just like any other club.Homosexuals have as much rights as anyone else. What the militant homosexuals want is for everyone to bow down and kiss their ass. Their behavior must be acknowledged, accepted and honored, no matter how unnatural it is. Look at the homosexual rights parades. These are people wearing business suit. They are disgusting naked louts and freaks.

boogie
boogie

Colleges are a waste of money in that they do require all these fees for things that most of the students are not going to ever use. Everyone uses the library and campus buidings, so everyone needs to pay for that.

Having a meeting students for homosexuals is not something I would ever use. So why as a student should I have to pay for it. Let the homosexuals pay for it. Just like any other club.

Homosexuals have as much rights as anyone else. What the militant homosexuals want is for everyone to bow down and kiss their ass. Their behavior must be acknowledged, accepted and honored, no matter how unnatural it is. Look at the homosexual rights parades. These are people wearing business suit. They are disgusting naked louts and freaks.

jamessavik
jamessavik

What do you expect? They're Aggies. They study dirt and ROTC. What kind of social graces are they supposed to have? It's not like they're from Austin.

ems0011
ems0011

Can we please just be honest here and quit dicking around? You religious types that wanted this to pass and object to paying two measly dollars - you are doing it because you believe homosexuality is a choice and a sin.

That's cool. Whatever. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, after all. For example, in my opinion your religion is quaint and amusing, your beliefs archaic and out of touch, and your deity a happy fantasy.

But guess what? I will still gladly pay out of my student fees for faith based organizations. Just as I will pay for GLBT ones. I may disagree with you, but I think diversity is a good thing. And really, two bucks? My tuition at A and M is a staggering $150,000. Why would I give two shits about two bucks? Why would anyone?

They wouldn't, of course, unless they object solely for the aforementioned reasons. If you claim you are objecting for a non-biased, non religious reason then I am sorry but you are full of shit. You may be so full of shit that you don't even realize it, but I promise you, you are in fact filled to the brim with it.

theyeti91
theyeti91

yeah...we're not all like that. As he stated there's only a fearful few who think that way. Most of us too busy with trying to survive exams and research papers to even begin to worry about any of that. Not that there's much to worry about anyway. I'm an aggie and three of my best friends are gay and they're all aggies. The student senate is so non-existent these days. No one knows who they are or what they try to do. I don't even know why they're still trying. As I said, we have way too much school-wise stuff to worry about, we don't care about what the student senate thinks. But since A&M is so grounded in tradition, the senate has to be there. Oh well, such is life.


...I only hope that they don't try to do anything against the athiests, then I'll be in trouble. 

diegolopezzz18
diegolopezzz18

I don't want to pay for anything else on campus that I don't use then. If there is an opt out for the GLBT center, then fine, that's fair enough, but there should be on opt out for every other fee that Aggies are forced to pay as well. If this bill is truly about equality and fairness, then let it be fair to all students. I've never gone to a baseball game, let's start with cutting funding for Olsen Field. 

westtexasaggie90
westtexasaggie90

This article is preposterous with its three "points" which give absolutely no credible reason as to why conservatives or people who do not agree with the GLBT organization should have tp give money to fund it. As an active senior attending Texas A&M University, I hardly ever see or hear about the GLBT organization on campus. This group only reaches out to a small percentage of the entire student population, deeming useless to the rest of the student body. Why should every single student at A&M pay $2 to support an organization that they are not apart of? That's like paying for a soda that you do not want. As minute as it seems, the university nickel and dimes us to death with numerous fees, making every dollar that we have to pay matter. I do not use this "resource" because it is too sepcific of an organization for me. I am not gay, transexual, lesbian, or bisexual. I do not want to pay or fund something that I do not use. That being said, all other student organizations seem to do just fine (financially) without this precious university funding. Numerous restaurants around campus sponsor "profit shares" in which they donate a percentage of their proceeds for a night to a particular organization. Other organizations host 5K runs and other events that will generate a good source of revenue. Forcing students to pay is not the way to approach this situation; GLBT should instead host fundraising events and allow students to CHOOSE whether they would like to contribute. 

aggiezzzz
aggiezzzz

apro has a legitimate point. Just because some dumbo group of people on campus thinks they are better than everyone certainly does not mean that they represent the majority of our student body. That's like saying because one particular group of Muslims believe in suicide bombing, that all Muslims must be terrorist.... maybe not necessarily as extreme but you get my point. I can guarantee you there are plenty of students elsewhere who would contemplate doing the exact same thing, it's just unfortunate that my university decided to take part. I think it's terrible this is happening, and I can guarantee you that there will be plenty of voices on campus that will be opposing this decision. Pitcher8811 also has a good point, and I'm sure that will be brought up. I say all this to say that not all Aggies are "dicks" and there are plenty of "dicks" on other campuses. JUS SAYIN'... okay I've said my 2 cents! LOVE TO ALL! :)

pitcher8811
pitcher8811

The argument here can go both ways. If students are forced to pay for organizations that they morally (not necessarily religiously) oppose, then you must also allow funding for religious organizations as well (you could throw in communists, fascists, and white power groups who don't advocate violence as well). If everyone is required to pay for the GLBT resource center through student fees, then funding for Catholic/Muslim/Baptist/Jewish/Fascist/Communist/EveryOtherOrganizationYouMayNotAgreeWith resource centers must be able to come from student fees as well. When religious resource centers are not only allowed on public school campuses, but funded from student fees, then you will have an argument. Until then, you are asking for special treatment for a subset of individuals.

apro
apro

how about we not overgeneralize a student population of 50,000 based upon this small group of idiots? do you think there aren't people like this at other schools across the nation?  There are more students here who think the whole thing is stupid than not. this article is ridiculous.

LolwhutAggies
LolwhutAggies

lololololololololol wow Texas A&M.... Thanks for making the SEC look bad once again!

britt.newell92
britt.newell92

UPDATE: It made it to the senate floor and will be live-streamed on senate.tamu.edu at 7pm central.
This is one of the many, many reasons why I go to A&M but refuse to call myself an Aggie. Came for the in-state tuition and fast-track degree plan, but will be getting the hell out of here as soon as I can! That being said, look for me at the open forum tomorrow night. Still trying to figure out how to point out all the flaws in both this bill and the student senate itself within my 2.5 minute time allowance.

totaltaxsolutions
totaltaxsolutions

Try that shit in Iran..... and the fact is if this passes it means the majority is tired of all this gay rights crap. If your gay fine, but it is just part of who you are . Not the defining thing in your life.

Les McGee
Les McGee

You don't think they rely on that funding?

Johnny Horton
Johnny Horton

Nobody in this instance is trying to deny anybody anything. The center will still be there and be just fine without their funds being allocated to it. It's just too bad we don't have this same option when it applies to our own federal tax dollars.

Les McGee
Les McGee

Opposing the lifestyle and trying to deny other people the lifestyle are two different things.

Johnny Horton
Johnny Horton

I couldn't disagree more. Opposing the lifestyle because of religious beliefs has nothing to do with "hate" (for the overwhelming majority at least). And in fact those who call others bigots and haters and all that couldn't do a worse job of trying to persuade others to their cause. In fact it's a massive turn off of the highest order.

Les McGee
Les McGee

Dude that's what it is. Hate. It's the driving force behind expulsion of these people.

Johnny Horton
Johnny Horton

Where was the "hatred" and "vitriol"? I must have missed something. The only vitriol I saw came from the author of the piece (of shit).

Les McGee
Les McGee

Johnny I guess it all depends on what they thought they were getting into. If this is aimed directly at the gay community the it is in fact a bigoted move. If they give the student body option to opt out of other things then by all means, but just to spew hatred and vitriol to a group that was there when students enrolled seems a bit much. It would be akin to doing this to the black groups and the womens groups, etc....

Johnny Horton
Johnny Horton

Good for A&M. Not everybody out there wants this shoved down their throat. Pretty laughable that you equate students who don't fall in line "bigots" and "dicks" because of their religious beliefs. It appears the author here is the real intolerant bigot. And asshole.

John1073
John1073

Sounds like the students who object can move to a Tarrant County community college and join the white students union a crazy tea bagger wants to start.

BullJive
BullJive

So bullying is only ok when it's done by pro-gays?

SnarkySnarkerson
SnarkySnarkerson

Obviously, Russell Allison believes that repeating nonsense ad infinitum makes said nonsense true.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

A&M, is it a cult or a religion?


A&M is something an insider cannot explain and an outsider will never understand.

roadsidecouch
roadsidecouch

Why the hell should students pay for a GLBT Resource Center?  Is there a Straight Resource Center?  Does it discriminate against GLBT people?  How about a Resource Center that serves everyone instead of segregating the population?  Is that too hard to figure out?  No, the GLBT people are full of themselves.  They are too "special" to mingle with the rest of the population.  While they are at it how about creating a Colored People Resource Center and a White People Resource Center.  Imagine the uproar that would cause.

russell.allison1
russell.allison1

To the presumuptively educated author of this particularly ugly peice of what passes as journalism.  Please, for all of us who read this site, spend some time reviewing the true meaning of the word, Intolerance, and then attempt to be something other than its embodiment. 

russell.allison1
russell.allison1

To the presumuptively educated author of this particularly ugly peice of what passes as journalism.  Please, for all of us who read this site, spend some time reviewing the true meaning of the word, Intolerance, and then attempt to be something other than its embodiment. 

boogie
boogie

Sir, you do not have to pay for Faith Based organizations if you are not a member of those groups. If you want to pay for a bunch of homosexuals to have their own club, fine. I don't, anymore than I would want to pay for a religion I do not believe in.

$150,000 dollars is an insane cost to attend a state university. If you looked at all the bullshit that you pay for and never use, you would be astonished. Next time you see Johnny fucking Football, you are paying for him. Not the university or the state of Texas, you.

txag2014
txag2014

@westtexasaggie90ggiejunior Well if we are going to choose what we fund and send this university back into history... Why the hell should I have to support the Women's resource center? This university was founded as an all males school, am I right? I feel like they should have to get their butts outside of the MSC and start fundraising. Now your thinking to yourself "That caters to almost 45% of the school". Alright then I'll go and start attacking Multicultural services. Many have said that A&M is a predominately white school. Why should I have to care about all those minorities? The point is you can't do this without discriminating, and when you begin allowing students to select which programs they support it puts all the programs in jeopardy. In addition I'd just like to say that personally I feel like this university does a pretty good job at separating itself from religion. Thats how it should be. We have made many contributions to the world by putting our beliefs aside and working together. If you want religion to be part of your education then go to some crappy low-ranking school such as Baylor, TCU, or SMU


diegolopezzz18
diegolopezzz18

@westtexasaggie90 Why should we pay, because we pay for a lot of other things that people may not use, that's why. Fine, if you don't want to pay for GLBT, then I don't want to pay for the rec center, the computing center, Texas Aggie Conservatives, Reed Arena, Olsen Field, Evans Library, and anything else that I can think of that I don't use on campus that I have to pay for under the same bill. How come there is no opt out for that? The fact that this bill is even being considered is proof enough that Texas A&M needs student funding for the GLBT resource center, it's because the higher ups in the student body (not necessarily in the university) are obviously ignorant bigots who are pushing to make this university a place of intolerance toward an entire community of our fellow Aggies. 

andresv94
andresv94

@LolwhutAggies Again, why should a students with religious believes be forced to pay for the GLBT center??

j.mei
j.mei

@Johnny Horton are you kidding me? "don't want this shoved down their throats"? like the Christian-based university of Texas A&M isn't trying to "shove" their religious beliefs down everything who attends and is NOT a Christian's throats? like how the members of the A&M Senate aren't trying to shove their religious intolerance down the GLBT community at Texas A&M? the people that are being 'bigots' and 'dicks' are the people that want to "opt" out of spending $2 out of their tuition when they're blowing hundreds of their parent's money at NG every weekend any way. 

cynthiapea
cynthiapea

@Johnny Horton "Not everybody out there wants this shoved down their throat."

You mean like equal rights? 


John1073
John1073

What rights are being denied to you by gay people? You clearly still have the right to be stupid.

John1073
John1073

Yes there is a straight resouce center. It's called campus.

John1073
John1073

No I went to school outside of Texas.  Thanks for playing , fake hispanic dude.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@John1073 It used to be ok to call my buddy a "fag" but NOOOOOOO, now that's all offensive and stuff.  As Bob and Dan like to point out, "gay" has nothing to do with homosexuality.

John1073
John1073

Because you just called yourself "latin person" and not Latino just now as well. Good bye, latin person, lol.

andresv94
andresv94

@John1073 again, talking out of your ass...............exactly how am i a "fake" latin person?? The term "hispanic" is for PC idiots like yourself by the way!

So again, please tell me how I am a fake "hispanic"......dummy


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