Tim Tebow to Address First Baptist Church, Because That's What Tim Tebow's Good For

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The charming Reverend Robert Jeffress
New York Jets quarterback Tim Tebow is scheduled to speak at First Baptist Dallas at 9:15 a.m. on April 28. Tebow is very open about the role religion plays in his life (good for him), and First Baptist Dallas Reverend Robert Jeffress is also very open about his beliefs, like this factually inaccurate snippet:

"There are a disproportionate amount of assaults against children by homosexuals than by heterosexuals, you can't deny that."

That's from a seminar released last July called "What to Say to Those Who are Gay, Part 2." In it, Jeffress explains that's being gay is "a degradation of a person's mind and if a person will sink that low and there are no restraints from God's law, then there is no telling to whatever sins he will commit as well."

But Jeffress is generous and magnanimous with his intolerance and doesn't limit it to the gays. In a 2011 interview he calls Islam and Mormonism "wrong" and more descriptively "from the pit of Hell." To drive his point home he added, "you can't be saved being a Jew."

Also in 2011, the good reverend explained that the Roman Catholic church is the result of corruption from the cult of Dagon, the Mesopotamian fish-god, and is evidence of the "genius of Satan."

The AP recently reported that Jeffress is now willing to entertain the notion that being gay is genetic, but no word yet whether or not that will influence his totally scientific and not wildly mathematically wrong opinion that 70 percent of gay men have AIDS.

Tebow's appearance is part of the month-long grand opening celebration for First Baptist's $130 million expansion. Tebow will be the guest speaker at Sunday morning worship on April 28, when the full First Baptist congregation will finally learn what the quarterback thinks about Jesus, and what Jeffress looks like when Tebowing.

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adestefano2
adestefano2

This creep hates everyone.  Who could follow such a Satanic person.  He defames the Muslims, Roman Catholics, Mormons and Jews.  There're nothing charming about this hate-monger.

TheCredibleHulk
TheCredibleHulk topcommenter

I would think the NFL would be a bit too homoerotic for Pastor Jeffress.


Of course, maybe that's the allure...

russell.allison1
russell.allison1

Is it just me or does anybody else look at pastor J and have their gaydar start beeping? 

Sotiredofitall
Sotiredofitall topcommenter

It's a fund raiser - this is more about money and celebrity than religion

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

He's just throwing attention away from himself - for his own Unchristian and immoral practice of eating shellfish.  Every time a Christian eats one - it's like he's spitting in God's face.

chrisnfwkeller
chrisnfwkeller

I question the obsession of this blog with Dr. Jeffress' preaching.  Having read this blog a while I'm sure there are probably other religious leaders in town with whom the writers disagree, but they seldom ever mention another local pastor, rabbi or imam.  Is it envy of Dr. Jeffress' media savvy or fundraising capabilities?  Our constitution protects the rights to speech and religion, but there is no right to not be offended (double negative intended).  I suppose with FBC Dallas being such a large institution, its an easy target, and requires a little less legwork on the part of the authors, if their intent to "expose" houses of worship taking stances with which they disagree.

chrisnfwkeller
chrisnfwkeller

I question the obsession of this blog with Dr. Jeffress' preaching.  Having read this blog a while I'm sure there are probably other religious leaders in town with whom the writers disagree, but they seldom ever mention another local pastor, rabbi or imam.  Is it envy of Dr. Jeffress' media savvy or fundraising capabilities?  Our constitution protects the rights to speech and religion, but there is no right to not be offended (double negative intended).  I suppose with FBC Dallas being such a large institution, its an easy target, and requires a little less legwork on the part of the authors, if their intent to "expose" houses of worship taking stances with which they disagree.

Tim Smathers
Tim Smathers

Hope he gets caught in a cheap motel with Jefress, a bag of meth and a couple of rent boys.

roo_ster
roo_ster

<quote>First Baptist Dallas Reverend Robert Jeffress is also very open about his beliefs, like this factually inaccurate snippet:

"There are a disproportionate amount of assaults against children by homosexuals than by heterosexuals, you can't deny that."</quote>

Except that it is factually accurate.  Roughly 9x relative to heterosexual sexual assaults on children.  Roughly 90+% of sexual assaults on children are by men,  Roughly 35% of those sexual assaults are on boys.  Homosexual males are roughly 3% of the population.  Depending on which studies you get your data from, that 9x figure goes up or down.  What is beyond dispute is "There are a disproportionate amount of assaults against children by homosexuals than by heterosexuals..."

There is a math component in the Test of Life.  

observist
observist topcommenter

It looks like someone dropped a black pancake on his head.

Scruffygeist
Scruffygeist

It's hard to trust or believe in a god that allows some of these asshats to speak on his behalf.

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

I can't wait til that little fuck drops dead, hopefully while he's spouting his vile hatred to a room full of like minded assholes.

halldecker
halldecker

@chrisnfwkeller Since Bob Tilton fled town,  we been searching for somebody to take his place.

Thank you, God,  for sending us Bro. Jeffress!

CountryCrock
CountryCrock

@chrisnfwkeller...@chrisnfwkeller... There is no other minister in town who is such a publicity whore. There is no other ministering town who jumps at every chance to get his face plastered on the national news and smugly proclaim his opinion or give his pious interpretation of his Bible, why he alone presents the truth and why everyone else is wrong. If there were a more offensive religious leader in town, I'm sure this blog would expose them as well.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@chrisnfwkeller 

Dr. Jeffress spends millions of dollars in self-promotion every year, so its stupid to question why a religious themed blog is discussing his latest publicity stunt.

But you weren't really being stupid - you were just being dishonest out of loyalty to the Evangelical Republicans.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@roo_ster 

what a complete and total load of crap.

we've been down this road before with you, and you choose to ignore the real statistics/research and toss out your own cooked up numbers as validation of your position.

the falacy with your assertion is that when a man abuses a boy that act does not classify the man as homosexual; that act classifies that man as a pedophile. the two are not the same and are not to be confused.

yes, the claim "there are a disproportionate amount of assaults against children by homosexuals than be heterosexuals" IS beyond dispute, in fact that claim is wrong. completely, absolutely wrong.

here, try and find errors in this study: %s

you can't, but then I expect that you will merely ignore the study and its conclusions, and continue to spew dishonest claims just like before.

CogitoErgoSum
CogitoErgoSum topcommenter

@roo_ster Please cite your sources for this ostensibly homophobic assertion. I have my doubts as to their veracity and/or authority.

observist
observist topcommenter

@roo_ster  If you're married to a woman but rape boys, does that make you a homosexual?  Or just a child rapist?

halldecker
halldecker

@Scruffygeist It's even more difficult to believe that the Babtist God lets all these sexual assaults happen.  


Why would a Loving God whose eye is on the sparrow do that???

chrisnfwkeller
chrisnfwkeller

@bvckvs @chrisnfwkeller Since this blog entry falls under "sports," not "religion," your assertion that this is a religious themed blog is questionable.  But, lets assume you're right and this is a religious-themed blog, you didn't address my question about why the focus on one individual or institution.  Shouldn't you say its a Jeffress-themed blog since the intent doesn't seem to be to have a meaningful discourse on various religions, or activities by different houses of worship in this city?  Can you defend the basis for your assertion that I am loyal to Evangelical Republicans? And if I was, why should Evangelical Republicans be less worthy of loyalty on the part of their adherents than Catholic Democrats or Jewish Libertarians? 

roo_ster
roo_ster

Now, _math_ is homophobic.  Disgusting sawed-off little stalinists trying to enforce orthodoxy in the face of offense rates.

roo_ster
roo_ster

@CogitoErgoSum Provided them on one of the recent Boy Scout postings.   Feel free to look it up.  

The data is there, the math is easy, but many folks are too timid to solve the equation.

casiepierce
casiepierce

@CogitoErgoSum It doesn't matter. Rooster either passed or failed statistics, depending on fill-in-the-blank.

roo_ster
roo_ster

@observist @roo_ster Homosexual is as homosexual does.  I claim no telepathy.  Besides, actions speak louder than words.

casiepierce
casiepierce

@roo_ster @casiepierce @CogitoErgoSum No, your stats are stupid and intentionally misleading. What you are saying is this: I have one apple and I have brown hair. You and your five friends also have one apple each, but all have red hair. Because I am only 30% of this population, then- statistically- the brown haired people get more apples, and at a rate of three times as much! (1/3 of the apples is going to us brown haired people while y'all six red hairs have to split 60%!!!) See? I can play this game too!

roo_ster
roo_ster

@CogitoErgoSum@casiepierceHere you go.  Univ of New Hampshire and UCLA and the DOJ for the most part.

[Original post at http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2013/02/boy_scouts_kick_the_can_delay.php#lf_comment=55774312 ]

The thesis is:
Homosexual males sexually abuse minors at much greater rates than heterosexual men.  (And thus are a greater danger to scouts than are heterosexual men.)

To get to that conclusion takes some simple math.

* Males commit from 96-99% of the sexual abuse of minors.

* Roughly 1/3 or 33% of the victims of such abuse are males, 64% are females.

* Homosexual men make up from 1-3% of the population, heterosexual men 49%-47%.

The rate of homosexual male sexual abuse of minors is roughly 9X that of heterosexual male sexual abuse of minors, when the proportion of homosexual and heterosexual men is taken into account.


Sources:
http://www.unh.edu/ccrc/pdf/CV171.pdf
[Shows female offenders being 5.4%, rather then the 1-4% of a lot of other studies, and smooshes some data together ("Any female victim in incident" vs "Female victim") but it has a LOT of other interesting information, especially about sexual abusers who are juveniles themselves.  Good qunatitative data & charts.]

http://www.unh.edu/ccrc/factsheet/pdf/CSA-FS20.pdf
[Kind of a bullet-point factoid survey.]

http://www.jimhopper.com/pdfs/Holmes_Offen_Waller_1997.pdf

http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Gates-How-Many-People-LGBT-Apr-2011.pdf

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00926238408405945
[Interesting in that it looks at part of this issue over time.]
 

You can plug in any particular number from most any source and the conclusion still is "Homosexual men sexually abuse minors at a far greater rate then heterosexual men." 

Last, most/many sources declare that boys are much less likely than girls to report sexual abuse.

roo_ster
roo_ster

@casiepierce @CogitoErgoSum Sorry dude, you are wrong.  I do stats for a living and am paid well.  My customers require a no-bull approach and bet big $$$ on the results.

CogitoErgoSum
CogitoErgoSum topcommenter

@casiepierce @CogitoErgoSum He's clearly just making up numbers to suit his bigotry, but I thought it might be nice to see him try to produce a study that backs him up.

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