The White House Is Unmoved By Your Ridiculous Secession Petition, Texas

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Or not.
The dream-crushers over at the White House will not be building you a Death Star, and they will not be considering your requests to secede.

Two months or so ago, just after President Obama won reelection, 23-year-old UT Arlington student Micah Hurd hastily wrote up the Texas version of the secession petitions that popped up all over the White House's "We the People" site. Hurd went on to get in a spot of trouble with his superiors at the Texas State Guard , but the petition garnered 125,746 signatures.

Never mind that a state can't legally secede from the Union. (Secession would likely require guns and stuff , rather than a whole bunch of angry typing.)

Despite the petition's questionable legality and obvious stupidity, Jon Carson, the White House's Director of the Office of Public Engagement, wrote up a catch-all response to the Texas version and 8 others. The TL;DR version: sorry, no.

"Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted," Carson writes. "But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don't let that debate tear us apart."

Carson also notes that there's no constitutional right to secede, something we further settled 'round about the 1860s or so. There was a war involved. Perhaps you recall it.

He adds that the Obama administration is still overjoyed to hear from you, People Who Want To Secede:

Participation in, and engagement with, government is the cornerstone of our democracy. And because every American who wants to participate deserves a government that is accessible and responsive, the Obama Administration has created a host of new tools and channels to connect concerned citizens with White House. In fact, one of the most exciting aspects of the We the People platform is a chance to engage directly with our most outspoken critics.

So that's that. And just to further dampen your mood, the Space and Science Branch at the White House's Office of Management and Budget also recently rejected a petition politely requesting that we build a Death Star by 2016.

"The Administration does not support blowing up planets," part of the response reads.

No blowing up other planets and no secession? What the hell kind of country is this, anyway? Somebody better petition the White House to make America badass again. Or better yet, cut it out with the petitions. They're incredibly irritating.

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Now before you over react and accuse me of living in the kingdom of nuts, “No”, I'm not advocating insurrection here. I'm just trying to clarify what the articles author did not. I'm not trying to instigate a Secession, although I would and have signed such petitions in the past, I just look at them as a form of protest. I doubt any but a few of the signers actually expected to secede from the union. But to say it is illegal for a state to secede is going a bit far and simply not true.

It is correct that the U.S. Constitution does not enumerate a right of secession; it also has no language that would deny a state secession. Armed Insurrection is illegal but a peaceful petition or vote for secession is certainly not illegal in any way. It would in fact be the Democratic way to so such a thing is a state so chose.

One need only read the Declaration of Independence for clarification. The declaration enumerates the reasons the Founding Colonies were succeeding from the British Crown. Now I don't at all think things are that bad at this time in American history, or at least I hope not. But the Declaration of Independence does state that when a government becomes oppressive or no longer serves the people, those people have a right and even a "duty" to rise up and throw off the bonds of said government by force if necessary. The language obviates the concept that a free people do have such a right and duty if they believe circumstances warrant it.

Just because the Federal Government denied those states secession through armed conflict ( which is illegal), does not mean that they had no right to secede at all. The United States also denied certain territorial autonomy and nationhood to Native Americans in those days that most of us today would agree was wanton disregard for the natural rights of the indigenous peoples of America.

With the exception of federally acquired territories, conquered or purchased. Every state joining the union after the 13 colonies had to take a vote by its people to approve its petition for statehood. There is no language in our law that prohibits the people of a state from voting or petitioning to un-join the union.

I know, I know, I’m gonna get a load of hate comments by those who can not comprehend what I’ve written here so let the insults and incivility begin.


Now the Obama Administration will be perceived as weak by every power in the Galaxy. Soon the aliens will come and impose Sharalien law on us. Guess my schizo arse better go by an AK-47 to join Will Smith in the counter-revolution.


Those who wish to succeed should be deported. 


@garlandsucks  Got me!   And I tired so hard to get the secede spelled correctly.  Anyway my view is that anyone who signed this nonsense should be shown the door out of the USA.

It should be noted that I am spelling challanged.

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