Spending the Holidays Surrounded by America-Hating Asshats

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This is the first holiday season I can remember in which people stood around the Yule log talking about the country going off a cliff. No, wait. That's not the big part. The big part is that some of the people standing around the Yule log want the country try to go off a cliff.

One night a couple days before Christmas, I was ready to run out on the lawn of this place where the party was, cup my hands around my mouth and shout up to the sky, "Better hold off on the sleigh thing."

What is it with this country? Why are there people who actually want to see the country crash? What is with them?

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On a happier note, first class passengers on the Titanic had a much higher survival rate.
The fiscal cliff is just a talking point. Talk about anything -- foreign policy, Obamacare -- and they start expressing this appetite for darkness. At one party a physician suggested to me that maybe the doctors should all just retire and go do something else.

I thought, "Which doctors? Are you going to recruit all the immigrant docs from India and Korea who see this country as the promised land? Will you be able to persuade them to give up medicine because of the Affordable Care Act? I think not. I hope not." But it wasn't the place to get into it.

This morning I had a long phone chat with a thoughtful friend who was wondering the same things. She asked if I thought it was because all of these older white people woke up one day and saw a much greater minority presence in the daily life of the country. I said yes. I do think that's a lot of it. They want to take their ball and go home.

"But that's crazy," she said. "It's like a 15-year-old."

Yup. But I don't really know. Is it the huge-bucks PAC-money gang making a last-minute push from behind the scenes? Or is that too conspiratorial, maybe even giving them too much credit? Things are at this bizarre moment when none of our cherished assumptions about the country can explain the events in front of our eyes.

She and I agreed on one thing. This is bad. We talked about places where we have worked in our lives, good, bad and ugly. The good places may be crazy and tense and whomperjawed in various ways, but they all have one quality in common -- a strong sense of the good of the ship. We can fight, we can compete, we can even dislike each other personally, but in the end we will all pull together to work for the success of the enterprise.

Those are the places that work, maybe because it just makes sense. That's the kind of attitude that can keep the ship afloat and on course. When you run into real treachery, stealing, lying, extreme laziness and it's all around you, somewhere in the back of your head you start thinking, "This boat is headed for the rocks."

I don't want to think that about this country, and I do not. My friend and I -- a couple of white 60-somethings - talked about how much better America has become during our lives. We can look back on a society that was rigidly compartmentalized by racism, religious and sexual bias, to say nothing of aristocratic privilege, and compare it with the America of today.

It seems to us that the country has made incredible progress and is a much better place today with a hugely expanded sense of human affinity and dignity with wonderful opportunity for people who used to be shut out of the game. We may even be the best place in the world for all of that, although this hardly seems the right moment for triumphalism.

The problem is we're stuck with a really bad element, and it's terribly confusing and off-centering because a lot of them are the same people who always used to be the good element, or at least they thought they were.

We have people with money, position and influence who are hungry to bring this country down. They have no sense of the good of the ship. They're down there in the hold drilling holes in the ship. They're absolutely nuts.

These ought to be good times. We have a whole lot invested in this country. It's going right for so many more people. We can't give up now. We're going to have to find a way to band together against the sink-the-ship gang. Or guess what? The bastards will sink the ship.


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ruddski
ruddski

All this discussion of race is irrelevant, there are plenty of wealthy people of color, all colors. Wealthy people of color have been stealing just as much money from the poor of all colors as wealthy white people have for quite some time.


From Sidney Portier to Oprah to LeBron James, they've all done their part to swell the ranks of the poor, this is a multi-racial problem, and there must be a multi-racial solution. Come to think of it, why should  gay Asians be given a pass for their destruction of the middle class? Now is the time for us all to come together to assign blame, that's what America is all about! 



jeneheffer
jeneheffer

America's  problems will most probably will be over when all white people die off because they are the reason we are in this mess. Is that the heart of the matter Jim?

DOCensors
DOCensors

For all their talk about progress and racism etc it sure seems that it's the progressives who haven't progressed a day since the 60s.

ruddski
ruddski

If the US is the Titanic, then it appears that the captain refuses to change course to avoid the iceberg unless the passengers agree to throw the wealthiest among them into the sea, presumably because they built the iceberg.

MikeWestEast
MikeWestEast

Why are you the one that keeps running into angry white people? Did the rest of us not get the memo or did the email get trapped in the spam filter? It sounds like nature will take care of your enemies the same way the rest of us view salvation from 60's burnouts: per Robert De Niro in Goodfellas - they go away. I have hard time believing any of the people you cite except for the "progressives" looking down their noses would give you the time of day. I am sure their first inclination during the holidays upon seeing someone who is almost caricature of aging 60's veteran still manning the ramparts is to unburden their soul on why the country sucks.

roo_ster
roo_ster

What would lame leftist writers do without the crutch of "racism(1)" to get them around?  Might actually have to think about the issues for a minute or two before finding another scapegoat on which to affix the blame for the failures of liberalism.

Math is coming for you, JS, and yours, and all the rest of us.  And Math is going to kick some ass without regard to race or if one has the progressively correct un-thinking about race.

 
http://pjmedia.com/blog/math-is-coming/?singlepage=true

"Right now the Republicans and Democrats are hotly debating which of
their two wholly inadequate plans we should use to avoid the fiscal
cliff, but looking at the size of the deficit, they’re proposing
different-sized Band-Aids where a tourniquet is needed. If you point
this out, you’re called a Tea Party extremist who wants to throw old
people off a cliff and deny underprivileged Ivy League law students free birth control. “You silly person. Budgets don’t have to balance. That’s just a superstition.”"



(1) "racism" gets scare quotes because its use by most lefties has become a meaningless reflex and bled it of any meaning. 

schutzenaivewhitegui
schutzenaivewhitegui

Jim feels a lot of guilt for white-flighting from Detroit. If you have read his columns over the years it is very obvious.

PerryMoore
PerryMoore

Why is it that productive people might suddenly decide to become non-productive? Maybe it's because some well intentioned society made it less reasonable to work for a living. Mr. Schutze, I can't imagine being non-productive, and I'm near your age. My parents still work. We bitch because our work ethic is what made this country a socialist Mecca, and free bleeders like you make us sound like the enemy. No, we won't quit working, because that would bring down all the people that depend on us to pay for their existence.

James080
James080

Jim, your visceral hatred and the resulting name-calling of anyone who dares to have an opinion different from yours is a reflection of the political climate in Washington D.C.  Believe it or not, not everyone who believes this country is careening off into an unrecoverable debt tail spin is not a racist, is not "absolutely nuts," and is not an "ass hat." Those descriptions are merely your way of coping with the fact that some folks don't agree with your progressive sloganeering. and your tired and continuous use of the race card and your underlying white guilt are frankly just sad. But I suppose in your progressive circles, its easier to condemn opposing opinions than it is to engage them.

ruddski
ruddski

It's backlash from Hope & Change. Corporate media is vested in the narrative of decline, and people are convinced that 7-percent plus unemployment and record food stamp usage are BAD things.

Until FAUX News, Blimp Limpbough, the New York Times and their corporatist ilk are relegated to the societal equivalent of the supermarket checkout rack, the collective peoples will labor under the mis-deluion of wingnuttery and faux doom.

DOCensors
DOCensors

"Spending the Holidays Surrounded by America-Hating Asshats"


So Voice Nation had a holiday party? 

lisa.dawn
lisa.dawn

The solution is quite simple--Let's give all citizens a fair chance by eliminating the co-mingling of public and private funds. This currently is standard procedure in our political and financial system through the secret Trans-Pacific Partnership which results in money being laundered through off-shore accounts. This private tribune destabilizes the constitution and legal authority.

The end to the Trans-Pacific Partnership would solve the problem of the fiscal cliff, resulting in a balanced economy. Everyone pays their fair share and most importantly, tax payers money going to where it was intended.

OUR CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS: The rich are stealing from the working class and poor (through non-profit corporations)--We must stop this tax-evasion through off shore accounts and the laundering of money. 

Recently,  many of the United States corporations have begun moving their money to Russia--could it be due to the public exposure and possible demise of this secret Trans-Pacific Partnership??

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

It is a feckless cop-out to blame Whitey when you are but merely experiencing an epiphany.  You are running the numbers and now realize financial ruin cannot be averted.  So what do you do?  Engage in some kind of alas poor Yorick I knew him well shtick to hedge your bets.

Skip stage 1 (denial) of the Kübler-Ross model, commonly referred to as the "five stages of grief" and just cut straight to "acceptance".  That you had your head up your ass with a dash of affliction called soapbox Tourrettes.  

That everyone who disagreed with you was an unconscious racist, misogynistic homophobe.  So instead of going back to that well for the fortieth time, just admit you were wrong and move on.

EliotLandrum
EliotLandrum

Sadly, I feel that same "given up" attitude from many folks. It's similar to the "I can't wait to get out of Dallas" attitude. Sure, there are nicer places in the world to live... but Dallas is good, and could be even better if we had people interested in making it better instead of wishing they could leave.

schutzenaivewhitegui
schutzenaivewhitegui

Hey Schutze, you naive reality-ignoring sheltered privileged well-off Swiss Avenue-dwelling white-guilt propagandist!

Since you have so much disdain for whites in general and for white conservative Texans in particular, you would probably be a lot happier if you moved back to your 82% black hometown of Detroit.

They need your "enlightened progressive advocacy journalism" up in Detroit a lot more than we need it here in Dallas.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

The titanic is a good analogy. There's a big group of us that have been pointing out the iceberg in our path for HOURS. At first, the rest of the passengers denied the very existence of icebergs. Then, as it got closer, we were accused of planting the iceberg. Now, the other passengers are accusing us of having some sort of complex plot going to hijack the ship because we don't like the black porters.

All the while, we're pointing right at the iceberg. Now, it's going to hit any minute, and there's nothing we can do about it now. It's too close. If we throw the ship into reverse, we won't miss, we'll only delay the impact. So, we've said, "fuck it. Let it sink. We're going to the lifeboats."

And now I guess that means we hate the titanic.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

"..."these older white people woke up one day and saw a much greater minority presence in the daily life of the country."

i can't speak for other older white people, but for me I'm kind of thinking that if older white person pundits and their older white person phone interlocutors would do some original thinking, get away from the same tired old explanations for what ails us and got around a little bit more, read a little wider, maybe thought a few new thoughts, we might all see a little more clearly What is it with this country. Promise us, Jim, in the new year: you'll at least try. One thing it might be with this country is too many pundits and too few reporters.

MisterMean
MisterMean

@PerryMoore Don't want to work-I am sure that there will be some one to take your place.   This crap about making it less reasonable to work is been going on for several decades.  Look at the outsourcing of many menial jobs as well as the off shoring of some high tech jobs (including those in the medical profession and legal profession too).  I would suggest to those who are moaning about higher taxes on the 1 - 2 percent should shut up and suck it up-as where are you going to go anyway?   Just think of those who have gone before you and were downsized economically.   It is your turn now.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@lisa.dawn Why go to all the trouble of actually thinking when there's always a simple conspiracy theory -- the shooter's mother was a CIA agent, it's all that secret Trans-Pacific thing -- at hand?

leftocenter
leftocenter

I'm trying to figure out why y'all read JimS...is it just stimulation for your conservative rage and righteous indignation?

Go read Glenn Beck's blackboard...

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

@EliotLandrum Yeah, Dallas is wonderful, if you're a mindless drone easily distracted by shiny things and shopping malls.

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

@everlastingphelps 

I guess we could debate the iceberg, by which I assume you mean the federal debt. I also assume your knowledge of macro economics comes basically from Home Economics so you think government debt drives up interest rates and inflation, ignoring a long line of historical evidence to the contrary. But let's not jump into that pond of details just yet. First, let us pause and observe that you have confirmed the thesis of my piece -- you view this nation, our nation, the greatest nation on earth, as the Titanic and, what is more, you want to abandon it, and, what is more, while you go to the lifeboats yourself you want to prevent the president from providing any more lifeboats for other people. Thing is, Phelps, it's a free country, and you have the right to despise it, but the rest of us have the right to think you and your ilk  are not the kind of people we want to see anywhere near the wheelhouse or, come to think of it, the lifeboats. In your quest for freedom, how would you feel about a group swim?

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

@bmarvel 

Always ad hominem, aren't we, Bill, when the topic is white people and minorities? How about for once you hike up your leisure suit and just tell us something -- anything -- about what effect you feel diversity and inclusiveness have had on America during your lifetime, which, after all, covers quite a stretch of history.

schutzenaivewhitegui
schutzenaivewhitegui

@JimSX - thanks for proving how naive you are again. The people moving to Detroit are mostly white hipster college kids and young white yuppies moving to places that had cheaper rents because they are in dangerous areas and neighborhoods that have been partly destroyed and abandoned by blacks. That article you linked to is about downtown & midtown Detroit, which combined isn't even that big an area, about 3 miles long and a little more than a mile wide. The article also mentions that some of the "revitalization" is paid for in part by rental rebates made possible by the Michigan State Housing Development Authority. Let's compare wonderful revitalized hipster Detroit with yucky old white conservative man Dallas (source - city-data dot com).

Detroit population in 2010: 713,777

Dallas Population in 2010: 1,197,816

# of murders in Detroit in 2010: 310

# of murders in Dallas in 2010: 148

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

@EliotLandrum @everlastingphelps more like tax shelters, real property, food, precious metals (both gold/silver and brass/lead)

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

@JimSX @everlastingphelps here's the problem. Your thought process is just as muddled as "the people who abandoned the titanic hated it". It's a complete non sequitur based on your own prejudice. It's like saying you must hate Detroit because you don't live there.

My basis of my belief doesn't come from home ec. It comes from the collapse of the Weimar economy, the Great Depression, Bastiat and Friedman. History always repeats itself. Last time was a tragedy. This time it's a farce.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@JimSX @bmarvel Probably the biggest change I've witnessed, Jim -- and as you graciously point out I've witnessed a lot. Young white kids,  growing up in the 1950s, not quite urban, not quite suburban, reading Kerouac, we mostly thought segregation was just weird, made no sense, was not fair. We knew it couldn't last. We argued with out fathers about that, even before we argued about the War. The big changes came -- or at least I was aware of them -- about the time I started college. When I went to work at The Rocky Mountain New, I got to cover some of those changes. So in that very important respect, in answer to your question, What is it with this country? it is much better. But still with a long, long way to go.

One small piece of that would be to rethink ALL stereotypes, wouldn't it? Old white guys, for example (or old anybodies): I don't wear a leisure suit, as you no doubt recall from my studio visit to your radio show. I haven't fallen in the kitchen yet, though  do walk with a cane. I don't stand on my porch waving a shotgun. I don't Tea Party. My conservative friends think I'm dangerously liberal, my liberal friends think I'm conservative, but put up with me anyway. Come to think of it, though, the ones who claim to be conservative are not always, not completely. Same for the liberals. (And we've long since worn those two tags threadbare, anyway, so they've practically useless for anything but invective.)

So in my tottering old age, Jim, I'm slowly learning not to be quite so quick on the draw, a constant temptation in our profession, not to let my thinking slip into sloppy stereotypes. I like to think of it as striving for maturity.

 

morrainepeak
morrainepeak

Tacitus..(56-117AD) .a keen observer and documentarist of the psychology of power politics.  Example: "Nero  (liberals/ Democrats in power/ Major Media) fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their "abominations" called (old white guy/Tea partier/ Conservtive) Christians by the populace...."

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@everlastingphelps "History always repeats itself" Oh, come on, Phelps! You know better than that. If you don't, you ought to. What historians have you been reading,anyway?

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@JimSX @bmarvel No, Jim. Tottering. ""Moving in a feeble or unsteady way." Knees gone, hips going.

lisa.dawn
lisa.dawn

Beautiful Bill!! You are an inspiration for all of us to be a work in progress..

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