I Hate Lance Armstrong

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Is it just me, or is there a great big hole in the Lance Armstrong story? When do we start talking about him as the one of the world's biggest dope pushers? When does Lance Armstrong's name get tied to child drug addiction?

See also: Lance Armstrong Will Step Down as Chairman of Livestrong

Not right away. Today's New York Times quotes Christian Prudhomme, director of the Tour de France, fretting about the millions of dollars Armstrong cheated to win. But then he calls him, "a true talent who strayed" and "played with fire."

No. Played with dope. It's dope. It's not fire. It's shit. That's what Armstrong and the rest of that stupid sport have taught the kids of the world. You can't go fast on your bike without shit in your veins. The longer this story runs, the more obvious it is that the entire sport is polluted. They should shut it down.

The fact that Lance Armstrong is a local boy only make the bite more bitter. An especially insipid story in The Dallas Morning News last Saturday said: "Despite the aftershocks of this month's report alleging long-term doping, Armstrong maintains an immensely loyal Texas base, including many people who have been with him since the beginning."

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Meet Public Enemy No. 1.
I can take you down to Dixon Circle right now and find people there who will defend their own dope dealers. What does that prove? I can find more people in the Dixon Circle neighborhood who hate dope dealers' guts. Why focus on the enablers?

Speaking of whom, we could talk about the prescription-mill shrinks who hand out psychoactive drugs like candy or the other physicians, too, who give first-time patients prescriptions for Oxycontin. They have a role here. They're dope dealers. Their stain spreads across the entire field of medicine.

At what cost? Ask a parent whose high school student can't muster the social confidence to face a party without snorting Adderall. Ask the E.R. doc who has to shoot up a newborn baby with Methadone because Mommy had a painkiller habit and a sleazy doctor to feed it. Ask them what Armstrong stands for.

He stands for cheating. He is the glamorous embodiment of cheating. The idea of Lance Armstrong is the idea of cheating. Nice guys finish third. Gold goes only to crooks.

Dope is a terribly fundamental kind of cheating -- the annihilation of the soul by cheating. The real plague is the idea symbolized by Armstrong that a child's soul isn't good enough. The child all alone, on his own and in and of himself, is born an also-ran. He can only become worthwhile with shit in his veins.

So that's easy. Most of the shit he needs is in his parent's medicine cabinet. In a study published in December, 2011, the National Institute on Drug Abuse, a division of the National Institutes of Health, reported that the most common drug of choice among 12th graders, after weed and synthetic marijuana, was Vicodin. Right after that, Adderall.

Vicodin's easy. Dad has a ton of it left over from his tooth extraction. A kid can take some, sell some in the lunchroom. Adderall is sold illegally to kids in every school in the country, especially at the toney private ones where money is more plentiful.

Why? Why is it so easy morally -- almost a reflex -- for kids to juice themselves with some kind of shit in order to go through a day of high school? Where do they get the idea that dope is OK?

From Lance Armstrong. That's what he is. That's what he means. That's what he stands for.

Please don't mention the cancer charity again. What a travesty. You know what? Next time a celebrity comes out against cancer, I want somebody to do a story about celebrities who are in favor of cancer. It's like taking a stand against death. So fucking what?

I hate Lance Armstrong. Hate him. Hate what he stands for. Hate what he is. He is a vampire. How many of us have his mark on our necks?


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katiekat
katiekat

people who defend whatshisname (hoping to forget it) are in a cult or susceptible to cult predators. he is the biggest coward ever. there is no sense in defending him or saying he's strong. he's a joke. the real heroes are the people who fight the good fight. i knew he was a cheater all along. too bad i was right.

MissMacy
MissMacy

I never understood why a person would be proud of an athletic victory when he had to cheat to achieve it. It's like stealing money from your own wallet. What's the point?

The3rdEye
The3rdEye

Wow ! I messed the trail. When did the court find him guilty of doping ?

poppa_who
poppa_who

You ask:

"Why? Why is it so easy morally -- almost a reflex -- for kids to juice themselves with some kind of shit in order to go through a day of high school? Where do they get the idea that dope is OK?"

 

Have you seen the money these athletes make?  Do you have any idea what a kid would do to make that kind of money?  Surely you are not that stupid!

Double-O-Joe
Double-O-Joe

Stop holding up athletes as paragons of humanity and this problem goes away.  Seriously. 

 

When we spend years or decades putting someone on a pedestal, acting as if he or she is somehow more worthy of attention than nearly everyone else on Earth, and that their actions are infallible and worthy of endless, constant praise and reward, why do we act surprised when he or she starts to believe that any action is justified? 

 

Professional athletes and other celebrities don't live in the real world, and it's our fault.  We've created a society where any transgression can be forgiven as long as the transgressor is beautiful, strong, or rich enough.  This isn't a meritocracy; it an imageocracy. 

PerryMoore
PerryMoore

Yeah buddy, that Lance Armstrong is at the root of all our drug problems. Tell you what, Mr. Schutze. If you elect me God, I will allow you to take any and every substance that you can find, for any reason that you can imagine. All I ask is 1) Don't pretend to be a hero, 2) Don't pretend to be a victim, and 3) Don't enter the Tour de France.

Sotiredofitall
Sotiredofitall topcommenter

Sports celebrity trumps all personal failings

MPDallas
MPDallas

Jim,

 

You're a dope and I hate you.  You act like he never worked hard...you act like he didn't overcome terminal cancer.  You and all these media hungry circus clowns can go jump in a lake with your one-sided witch hunt with absolutely NO DUE PROCESS.  Take the medals and money.  It was never about the bike.  Lance will keep fighting and Livestrong.

 

And if I didn't make myself clear...Jim, I hate you a** clown.

 

Very truly yours,

 

MP, Dallas

Joanne Welch
Joanne Welch

Good for you, Jim! I'm so glad to finally read it. Lance Armstrong is a cheating bastard. And I'm sick of it. I don't want my son to admire him or any of the other cheating-bastard athletes. Or Wall Street scam artists either, for that matter, though I don't think there's much chance of that.

a1isondre
a1isondre

Good for you, Jim! I'm so glad to finally read it. Lance Armstrong is a cheating bastard. And I'm sick of it. I don't want my son to admire him or any of the other cheating-bastard athletes. Or Wall Street scam artists either, for that matter, though I don't think there's much chance of that.

rossfpineda
rossfpineda

the writer is an idiot and has very little understanding of the sport of cycling to call it a stupid sport.  they not for speed but to take away the pain and speed up recovery.  the sport is so physically taxing that the temptation to take drugs to take away the pain and give relief to the suffering which one feels after a day's race, not during the race itself.  call it cheating but they dope much more to be able to compete the next day and not necessarily to win.

suziesiegel
suziesiegel

To finish this sentence: Although it was funny, remarks like the recent one by Lewis Black don't help. EPO is like some street drugs. It doesn't give you a high, but it does make you feel better and stronger, with more energy. I welcomed it when I was on chemo. 

 

It would probably have made its way to the street like other prescription drugs if it hadn't been so terribly expensive. 

 

Whether you hate Lance or Jim, I just hope you understand a little more about doping and its dangers.

 

xxxx
xxxx

Okay Jim but everyone knows that Dallas Observer writers are a bunch of burnout drunks and stoners.  Jim, you probably wrote this article on meth.  Don't be jealous because more and more people are able to find their drug use loopholes legally instead of standing up to the man.

suziesiegel
suziesiegel

It's very irresponsible to say that EPO is perfectly safe if administered by a physician. The FDA black-boxed it in 2007. I wrote about it here: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/8/prweb9856630.htm Please read this if you have any doubts. Now it can be administered only by health-care providers who are trained to use it, and then only for people considered incurable. As a cancer patient, I got a ton of it in 2003 when I was undergoing chemo in Dallas. It was wildly expensive. If I remember correctly, it was $7,000-$8,000 per injection. Now I'd rather do any street drug than EPO, which has the risk of causing cancer cells to multiply. In fact, it's quite possible that Lance Armstrong got advanced testicular cancer because he was doing EPO.

 

It's so important for this information to get out so that young people don't think it's safe. Although it was funny, remarks like the recent one by Lewis Black. As an advocate for cancer patients, Armstrong should talk about the health risks from EPO.  

 

A lot of people aren't aware that EPO goes by the legal names of Procrit, Aranesp and Epogen. Check out this story: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/11/08/medicare-medicaid-still-paying-for-blood-drugs-despite-fda-warnings.html Jim, if you were angry before, you'll go nuts over this.

 

I'm glad that people have benefited from Livestrong. But there are many cancer nonprofits that provide support services. Perhaps the best is the one run by our government: Go to cancer.gov and you can talk or live chat with a specialist who will guide you to helpful resources.  

 

By the way, there's the nonprofit Livestrong.org and the for-profit Livestrong.com. 

vincem1993
vincem1993

I think that you have totally misinterpreted this situation. Like a typical American you act all righteous but firstly don't realise he still has never tested positive, secondly epo is in no way comparable to street drugs, totally naive comment and finally he has raised over $500 million for his cancer charity as well as raising awareness for cancer and cycling around the world. Not only is the trial against him a witch hunt but everyone has admitted doping in all the testimonies. Why shouldn't their results be annulled? He has been treated unfairly by a biased organisation and is still a legend.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

There seems to be a lot of equating performance enhancing drugs with street drugs on here.  It's one thing to compare apples and oranges and say they're both fruit.  It's quite another thing altogether when one is trying to make applesauce.

Yes. Drugs are drugs.  Armstrong doping for however many years and denying it, then expecting a pass when it catches up to him is no different than a pot smoker claiming he's not hurting anyone and should not be punished for firing one up.  There is a valid argument that both have a point.  There is also the valid argument that both have violated laws, or rules, in their behavior.

I don't know a damn thing about epo.  I do know it isn't being mixed with black tar heroine to put Dallas back on the innovation map for the teen drug scene.  Framing Armstrong's use of epo as a cornerstone of blame in teenage use of recreational drugs is disingenuous.

However, Texas has a big problem with the use of performance enhancing drugs in HS sports.  We have the largest athletic drug testing program in the country.  Larger than the NCAA, larger than the Olympics, larger than the UIC.  They will test between 40 and 50 thousand high school athletes for PE drugs this year.  It's not talked about a lot, especially during football season.  That would be sacrilegious.  Kind of like exposing that First Baptist was passing out disco biscuits during communion.

Why do we have this program?  Why do we have this problem?  Is it because our kids see football, baseball, cycling, swimming and other sports heroes doping to get ahead in the game?  Is the message we're telling them that no matter how hard they work, how precise they hone their skills, it wont be good enough?  That, after a couple of weeks of steroid injections some mediocre talent will be able to beat them?  Are we telling our kids that drugs ARE the answer?

How about the kid who sees Mom, beat down after a day of work, soccer shuttling, cooking and cleaning, shutting down with a couple Xanax and suddenly becoming peaceful and relaxed?  What is that kid going to think?  We have a pill for everything.  Weight loss, weight gain, too horny, not horny enough, too stressed, too distracted, restless legs, yellow toenails, bad skin, irritable bowels, frequent urination.  You name it, we have a pill, shot, mix, or elixir to fix it (although I can't find a pill that will cut up, split and stack the oak that fell in my yard for me).  Our lesson to our kids is don't sweat the small stuff, don't sweat at all, just take a pill. Watch your TV shows tonight and count how many commercials for prescription or OTC drugs there are in prime time.

 

How about, before we go blaming Lance Armstrong for teenage drug addiction, we go home, clean out our medicine cabinets, and take our kids to park, for a walk, on a jog or hike, or on a bike ride.

Lee Rognlie
Lee Rognlie

Jim propagates lies and profits. He should be banned from his profession.

Raishad Maharaj
Raishad Maharaj

This is the stupidest thing I've ever read. I hate Jim Schutze

emrobs
emrobs

I liked it up until you HAD to bring up Livestrong, despite you saying "please don't mention the cancer charity again,"  and I could NOT disagree more about the last paragraph.  I've been involved with fundraising for that organization for many years. I personally know survivors who relied on the foundation during the darkest fucking days of their lives.   I wish you would talk to a cancer patient, survivor, family member etc. who only had LIVESTRONG in those shitty days to help....I have, and it's bigger than Lance Armstrong the man who let everyone down. Armstrong? Yeah, I met him a few times during my fundraising, and he's a dbag...but leave the cancer foundation out of it. Your statement "Next time a celebrity comes out against cancer, I want somebody to do a story about celebrities who are in favor of cancer. It's like taking a stand against death. So fucking what?"  is such an asinine argument and you've lost complete credibility with one reader....

wrw22
wrw22

Never liked him.  Riding a bicycle in a zillion mile race is stupid and pointless.  If the Tour de France never existed and somebody walked up to you saying they wanted to do that you would have them locked up in a mental institution. 

preachtothechoir
preachtothechoir

Happened just about a mile from Jim's beloved Dixon Circle.  These people are JUST LIKE Lance Armstrong (in Jim's idiotic white-guilt libtard fantasy). crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2012/10/inside-south-dallas-house-police-officers-find-drugs-guns-and-two-small-children.html/ October 19, 2012 Inside South Dallas house, police officers find drugs, guns and two small children Police officers who busted into a South Dallas drug house on Thursday morning found a variety of drugs, guns and something else they didn’t expect — two small children, ages 1 and 2 months. Several officers were at the house in the 2600 block of Hooper Street near Bexar Street to investigate what they suspected was a drug house. They were apparently correct. According to police documents, the officers smelled burnt marijuana and an overwhelming scent of PCP coming from inside the house. They also spotted indications that the residents of the home were stealing electricity with an illegal power hookup. The officers shouted for the people inside to open the door and a man did so. The officers said they could see another person moving away from the door and determined they had additional “exigent circumstances” to go inside without a warrant, the documents said. As the officers entered, the man who had answered the door ran from the scene. The cops got to a locked door in the back of the house and forced it open, police said. To their surprise, a 1-year-old child was on the other side of the door and was bloodied in the nose. Officers found the 2-month-old child in bed with Latoria Lacole Fridia, 18. During a search of the house, officers found: Several baggies containing what was believed to be ecstasy. An assault rifle, shotgun and handgun in reach of the children. Twenty-seven vials of what police believed to be PCP. Baggies near a bed and on an end table that are commonly used to package drugs. A plate with a small amount of white powdery substance believed to be cocaine and a razor blade. Officers said the smell of PCP was so strong that it was difficult to breathe. There was no sign of any food in cabinets or the refrigerator, police said. “The house was very dirty, with clothing and other trash on all of the floors,” the documents said. Police arrested Fridia on two counts of child endangerment and a man at the house on a probation violation. Fridia is in the Dallas County Jail, where her bail was set at $3,000. The children were taken to a Child Protective Services office.

Scruffygeist
Scruffygeist

I hate Livefyre. I've mentally linked it to DISD being so terrible.

chemist_of_discord
chemist_of_discord

When administered by an expert physician (and Dr. Ferrari, criminal or otherwise, is an expert on human performance), EPO is safe. Anabolic steroids are safe. Your slippery slope hysteria is just that: emotions getting away from you. Its not as if Lance self-administered dianabol like the former governor of California (he'd have been caught for one), and even when transfusing (arguably the only dangerous thing he did), his doctor kept him within hematocrit limits. This wasn't street drugs, nor shooting-up babies with Methadone. So chill.

lawsonchris
lawsonchris

You are correct in thinking that their is a lot missing to this story. If you go and check all of the times that he won it was only by 1 sec to 6 sec.so if he was doping then everyone in that race was doping also if he was only winning by a couple of seconds. His own team said that they were also doping but they are not getting punished at all. Can anyone see a problem with this???

TheBruh
TheBruh

 @The3rdEye Check the details.  A court isn't necessary, unless you sue and lose.

Angrywhiteguy
Angrywhiteguy

Lance is a cheat. Period. End of story.

 

Quit sucking off you LA doll and face reality MP.....Lance may have beaten cancer, he may have worked hard and may have been a nice guy.

 

All that means shit.....he's a liar and cheat.

Fuck Lance, fuck you and above all fuck Obama.

MissMacy
MissMacy

 @MPDallas Explain to me how cheating, taking illegal drugs and lying to authorities for years makes Lance Armstrong a hero. He's a liar and a phony. If competitive cyclists can't win a race without dope then the sport should be shut down.

PerryMoore
PerryMoore

Nobody overcomes terminal cancer.

 

Thanking you we remain,

 

P.M, Sticks

neo9960
neo9960

 @MPDallas MPDallas, you're a moron and obviously don't know what sports and competition are about.  Armstrong duped everyone for years.  He pretty much "stole" his success and you're calling it a "one-sided witch hunt w/o due process?" I can't even speak to you.  You're painfully blind and ignorant.  You're a small part of the reason this country is looking bad.  Livestrong is a joke.  Don't you think he GOT cancer FROM doping? duh and now he's a hero?

Sotiredofitall
Sotiredofitall topcommenter

 @MPDallas How does this counter the basic issue that Lance is/was a habitual cheater and a liar?

suziesiegel
suziesiegel

 @rossfpineda Have you taken these drugs? If not, I can tell you from personal experience as a cancer patient and advocate for other patients that EPO doesn't take away pain, but it does give you more energy. Ditto for steroids and testosterone. Read the reports: the cyclists took these drugs, along with blood transfusions, before and during races. 

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @rossfpineda That's cheating, and you're dissembling.  So what of the competitor that doesn't want to mortgage his future and his health and wishes to compete.  You're an idiot and are making a fundamentally dishonest argument.

neo9960
neo9960

 @xxxx What are you even talking about?  What sucks about YOU XXXX is that there are ACTUALLY people like you.  You make no real arguments, nothing verifiable, no resources to cite; you just come on here and type shyte.  Anyone can just make accusations.  "Jim you probably wrote this on meth." You sound like a ja@@a$$ XXXX. You probably sell meth. The people at the Observer at least have a professional job and they work around the clock to inform you about things that go on in your city.  Sometimes they are not the best writers but judging from your BROAD strokes, we would fair no better or probably  much worse with YOU at the helm. GOOD RIDDANCE

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @xxxx Hey, all about, "whatever gets you through the night" but steroids and the like are something I was never stupid enough to do, though I was encouraged by coaches.  But, if you want the clean dream, it will remain illusory.  In a way, these guys, Lance and the other roiders are pushers.  Too often, coaches can't see past physique to see talent and ability. 

howard.hh.shih
howard.hh.shih

vincem1993. Please stop saying he never tested positive. Read the USADA's reasoned decision. Of the small amount of samples the USADA managed to get their hands on, they managed to show that it is virtually impossible that Lance did not dope. And the results of all the other dopers who have provided evidence against him HAVE had their results annulled. Besides, doesn't the fact that almost all his former teammates admitted to doping say something about their star, Lance, who says he never had any idea it was all happening right under his nose? And you still want to believe that 26 people (yes, 26) were willing to put everything on the line to testify against him just because they were jealous? He is a legend all right -- he will go down in history as the biggest cheater in sport.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @vincem1993 What about the people who wish to compete but don't believe or want to cheat and take dangerous drugs that may cause future health complications? 

BetterLivngThruChem
BetterLivngThruChem

Not disputing that there are too many pills to combat made-up "syndromes" - Abilify?  Really?  That sounds like a drug from a comic book.  But I digress....

 

The whole kids-on-dope issue should also include a discussion on The War On Drugs and how it likely increases both drug use and disrespect for authority.   From Kindergarten on, kids today are told that "drugs are bad, mmmmkaay,"  usually by a self-serving DARE cop hoping he can bust a 20-something with a sportscar and an indiscreet baggie so that the cop can keep the sportscar.   The school kids are told again and again and again that if you even think about smoking pot your brain will turn to mush and you'll become a habitual criminal and your wiener will probably fall off.

 

Those kids grow up and find out - wait a minute - they have friends who smoke pot, and they haven't been committed to an asylum.  And what - the Beatles and the Stones smoked pot along with a whole bunch of other stuff, and they're icons, not criminals!  And hey - the last three Presidents of the US&A smoked pot, and W. was fond of the cocaine as well.  

 

The kids - and hopefully some adults as well - start to put it together that, wait a minute - these teachers and DARE cops are bullshitting me.  They said I'll suffer and die on drugs but that's not what I observe out in the world.   Well, if those bastards lied to me about pot, they're no doubt also full of shit about steroids.  I'll take those and get me a scholarship. 

 

Not saying that steroids=street drugs, or that either or neither of them are wrong.   I'm saying kids take dope & do dangerous shit they're warned against because they're lied to constantly about the consequences.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @RTGolden1 Surely you consider me a pill, I'll cut up that wood for you.  And, like real drugs, it'll cost you for the fix.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @emrobs He's simply saying that LIvestrong doesn't absolve his cheating, and the carcinogenic consequences of that example.  An other poster points out that EPO aggravates cancer, so Lance might be the victim of his cheating. 

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

 @chemist_of_discord You and Lawsonchris are on a roll. So how about this? If everybody else on my street is dealing crack, and I'm the only one who gets caught by the cops, how is that fair? 

TexOHara
TexOHara

 @lawsonchris Your assertion that Armstrong won each race by seconds is wrong:

 

Armstrong won the 1999 TDF by 7 minutes, 37 seconds

Won the 2000 TDF by 6:02

Won the 2001 TDF by 6:44

Won the 2002 TDF by 7:17

Won the 2003 TDF by 1:01

Won the 2004 TDF by 6:19

Won the 2005 TDF by 4:40

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @lawsonchris that's not correct.  Most if not all his races were essentially decided before the last couple of days.  If it was a matter of such a few seconds, the ride down the Champs Elysees wouldn't have been so leisurely. 

BetterLivngThruChem
BetterLivngThruChem

How did he "steal" the titles when pretty much every second place finisher the years he won either has a doping scandal of their own or was tossed from the sport completely for doping? 

 

And I don't think there's any indication that he tested positive for anything prior to his cancer diagnosis.  Don't you think his doctors would have documented that at the time?

lawsonchris
lawsonchris

 @JimSX  @chemist_of_discord They have been focused on him and only him. They need to go after everyone and clamp down on dpoing. 

So as to your point why is it fair to only go after one person and not go after others in the sport have admit to doping??

GuitarPlayer
GuitarPlayer

 @lawsonchris   "So as to your point why is it fair to only go after one person and not go after others in the sport have admit to doping?"-------They did. Out of 21 of Lance's former teammates 20 have been caught doping. So your theory is fucked. 

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