Paul Quinn College Bans Bacon, Other Delicious Pork Products

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So many delicious parts, none of which will be had at Paul Quinn College.

Update at 3:31 p.m.: Just heard back from Paul Quinn President Michael Sorrell who told me this is part of an ongoing effort to make the school's dining options healthier. They've added a grill and cut back on fried food in recent years, and there's the garden, of course.

"The reality is that our student population comes from demographic that struggles with the type of health concerns that you see in underresourced community," he told me. "We just think it's irresponsible" not to do anything.

He's heard from one student, "who should be most grateful that we made this change," who is mad, but the rest seem to have taken it in stride. Not that he's taking any chances.

"Minority people and ham in the South, you know. I may not be able to go back to the cafeteria for the next couple of days."

Original post: Paul Quinn College, you'll remember, turned its football field into a community garden. There were a lot of reasons for doing so. The school had cut its football program, the garden promised to supply fresh produce in a humongous food desert in southern Dallas, and it was a symbol of the school's rebirth, as well as its commitment to helping feed southern Dallas. Also, it was healthy. You can't very well grow soda or Twinkies on a farm.

Yesterday, the school took another step in that direction when President Michael Sorrell declared in an email to students that Paul Quinn is now officially pork-free.

We know there are many negative health consequences of consuming pork (eating pork can lead to high blood pressure, high cholesterol, cancer, sodium retention and heart problems, not to mention weight gain and obesity). Therefore, as a part of our continued effort to improve the lives and health of our students, Paul Quinn College and its food service partner Perkins Management have collaborated to create a pork-free cafeteria. From this semester forward PQC will no longer serve dishes containing pork. That applause you hear in the background is the blood pressure of our students, faculty and staff.

This raises a lot of questions. I have a call into Sorrell's office, but I'll go ahead and ask some here. What happens if you sneak in a bacon cheeseburger onto campus? Are we talking a raised eyebrow? A stern talking to? Expulsion? And how much, Mr. Sorrell, has the fruit and vegetable lobby contributed to Paul Quinn's endowment? Also, how do the students feel about this?

Also: Red meat? They can't eat the Other White Meat, but they can still eat the red kind?


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Carrie Cook
Carrie Cook

So not one word about the "pork" itself.  There is no ethical, moral, or dietary need to slaughter millions of pigs in this country - intelligent, sensitive creatures.  Not to mention the torture they endure beforehand.  Yes, torture.  The pigs consumed in this country aren't coming from happy pigs frolicking in fields.  They are coming from factory farms.  Our food supply has turned into a true distopian nightmare.  Particularly for our non-human animal friends.  No one wants to see it or hear about it, but it's time to take the red pill.  

RTGolden
RTGolden

This could all be a simple tip o' the hat to one of Paul Quinn's esteemed alumni, Hiawatha Williams, entrepreneur and restauranteur, the founder of William's Chicken.

 

Eat more chickin', Ya'll!!!

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

gonna be a klan cross burning on the campus in protest of banning ham.....cannot cook blackeyes without a chunk of pork....those kluxers are going to rise up and make some noise on that campus, I guarantee....lordie.

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

this is going to seriously cut into the pork rind and hot sauce business at the 7-11 run by the Asian guy down the street.....

RoaminCadillac
RoaminCadillac

What correspondence school did Mr. Sorrell receive his degrees?  Aside from an excellent source of protein, pork cuts are lean.  Yes, there is a danger is eating too many  processed or cured  meats that are full of salt, other preservatives, high fructose corn syrups, etc., but damn, do some research. 

 

Abstaining from certain foods due to religious beliefs is one thing, and not one that I would criticize, but to make a decision like this based upon a hunch?

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

will they be raising cotton as well as greens and melons?

jerikjonsson
jerikjonsson

He just called the student that complained fat.  That's not what I want in a college administrator.  That's mean.

roadsidecouch
roadsidecouch

Hmmm!  Pork free, I wonder why?  Hope they are not offering free flying lessons too.

todd
todd

Based on very non-scientific research using my weber grill, ribeye steaks (beef) contain a great deal more fat than pork chops.   

Daniel
Daniel

I'm guessing  Michael Sorrell is a Muslim, but rather than come right out and be a theocratic freak, he took the tack of extolling the secular virtues of a pork-free diet.

 

Of course, I could very well be wrong.

Scruffygeist
Scruffygeist

Paul Quinn should lose accredited status after that statement, considering how many parts of it are inaccurate, speculative, and unproven. Fuck, any professor worth tenure would have red marks all over that and give it an F because there's no citations or sources to back up the drivel.

 

Drink too much water and you can die, Paul Quinn College. Gonna ban that too?

bvwestmom
bvwestmom

I guess the college president knows something the American Heart Association does not.  The AHA gave pork tenderloin it's seal of approval this year.  Pork tenderloin is as lean as skinless chicken breast and more tasty....

movinondown
movinondown

The Final Call now on sale at the campus bookstore?

pak152
pak152

Did Nanny Bloomberg make a secret visit to PQ?. as someone mentioned below it is all about moderation in what you eat. one or two strips of bacon every other day is not going to jack up your BP. but eat 1/2 a pound in the morning,  a ham sammich for lunch and a couple pork chops in the evening every day then you may have a problem

jerikjonsson
jerikjonsson

I really like the faculty and students I've met from Paul Quinn, and I want that school to be a strong factor in the improvement of South Dallas.  So I hope the Quinnites won't be too offended if I say that this is the most enragingly stupid idea I've run across in a year, and I deal with city staff every week.

Guest
Guest

No other respectable colleges make these absurd choices (dress code, no pork, closed campus) for their students. Does the Paul Quinn administration really think a paternalist approach is what their students need?

TexOHara
TexOHara

But bacon tastes good.  Pork chops taste good.

ARivas
ARivas

I'm sure it's all about "health". How long until Paul Quinn adopts suits, bow ties, and browline glasses as it's official uniform?

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

 @Carrie Cook If I've learned one thing from Chick-fil-a, it's that cruelty and oppression are DELICIOUS.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @RTGolden they do damned good Chicken livers at Williams, you gotta wait a bit, but they're good for what they are.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @todd Ribeye's are good, decadent, but usually my first choice, I like em black and blue, carmelize that fat on the outside, leave it quivering cold in the center.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @bvwestmom and we know our health lobbying institutions are all above reproach.  Nitrates alone are a serious health hazard.  Again, for many any pork in a dish, I'm talking beans, greens and the like makes it unacceptable to several groups.  Rastas, Muslims of various stripes, 7th Day Adventists, Jews and those who uphold Biblical dietary laws all fit that bill.  Seems a small compromise for some to make.  It's not like they're prohibiting anyone from eating pork, but presence of pork renders the whole cafeteria suspect for these groups.  

 

The inflexibility expressed by many here is compulsory as anything they're condemning.  Insular attitudes on your part don't make you (plural) any more righteous. 

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @pak152 the pork that's hidden in foods like lard, or salt pork/bacon in beans, greens and the like takes the option away from those who try to abstain from pork for religious reasons.  Again, Rastas, 7th day Adventists and those who follow Biblical dietary laws are utterly disenfranchised by your policy.   Seems the more liberal, freedom espousing choice is to abstain from it's use.  They're not prohibiting pork from others, they're just not gonna serve it.  Jewish Kosher dietary laws are more strict than Muslim Halal rules, but both--and the many others who follow Biblical diets are told to totally avoid that food.  The immoderate attitude is ignoring all those people.  And, yes, the Black community is more divided about pork than the WASP community. 

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @jerikjonsson no, turning off a fair segment of their students from being able to eat in the cafe is more immoderate.   Not eating pork for lunch is less an imposition than denying the cafeteria to many students.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @Guest Yeshiva U. isn't a respectable college?  Isn't it equally paternalist to sneak pork furtively into the food of those who would like the option and freedom to live pork free?

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

 @Guest well...HAVARD DID actually admit Obama to its Law School...THAT IS RIGHT UP THERE WITH ABSURD CHOICES IMHO.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @TexOHara and they're forbidden for many, and many prefer to abstain from swine.  However, I understand that he whom you quote prefers sausage.

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

 @ARivas and paints faculty pictures on the side of all minivans on campus?

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @ARivas Or dreadlocks or forelocks?  You're rushing to judgment.  There are many faiths that abstain from pork, the small sect of Nation of Islam is but one.   You do realize that Jesus never ate pork right?

movinondown
movinondown

 @ARivas Apparently this is going right over the heads of sheltered whiteopian Observer liberals

pak152
pak152

 @scottindallas and what institutional cafeteria in this day and age uses lard?. the examples you cite are red herrings. What the school is doing is discriminating against those who would like to have pork in order to satisfy a minority. If you wish to help those folks follow their dietary beliefs you uses labels instead of eliminating. If only 5% of the population follows these rules does that mean the other 95% must be forced  to follow them?

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @everlastingphelps But which one?  Rasta, Judaic, Islamic, or 7th day Adventist?  Or, is it a small compromise to moderate the pork intake at lunch for some, so everyone can enjoy the cafe? 

 

I'm not vegetarian, but introduced vegetarian options into a few restaurants I cooked at.  I like to use Chicken stock, rendered fats, and smoked meat to season veggies, but for the sake of freedom; DIDN'T use those to consider an even larger audience than we'd been serving before. 

 

When there's pork about, be it lard, salt pork, bits of bacon, it can ruin many options for many.  And, most disturbingly for those who earnestly try to follow religious or dietary rules, often the servers aren't aware of where and in what its been used.

devildog943
devildog943

Scott, Jesus was Jewish, as if you didn't know. That MAY be why he didn't eat pork.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

 @pak152 Of course it is.  The fact that they are lying about the reason and hiding that points to being a particularly radical and odious group they are catering to -- like the Nation of Islam.

pak152
pak152

 @everlastingphelps I agree, but one has to wonder if cultural restrictions are playing a sub-role in this.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

 @pak152 This is all a distraction by Scott anyways.  Ignore it.  Quinn didn't cite any sort of dietary restrictions in its reasons for doing this -- it cited health reasons.

 

Stick to that, because that is what they hung their hat on, and it's a pile of shit.  It's not about cultural restrictions, it's about "our continued effort to improve the lives and health of our students".  Make them explain that.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

 @scottindallas As someone who PREFERS lard tortillas, I assure you, they are NOT common.  They are downright hard to find, in fact.  I would be astonished if you could run across any without specifically looking for them.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @pak152 lard is common in tortillas, in fact unless one if vigilant, this it one of the most common example.   What DISCRIMINATION is this?  And, speaking of fallacies, it's the height of hypocrisy for YOU to scream discrimination. 

 

There no red herring about lard being in re-fried beans, bacon or salt pork in green beans, greens and the like.  I guess you have no clue what soul food is, or how it's made.  You know nothing about what you're talking about.  If you advocate "moderation" then doing without pork for lunch is simply that. 

 

Further, I would suggest that the Black community has higher percentage of followers of Rasta, Islam, and Nation of Islam, to say nothing of Jews, and 7th Day Adventists.  You're out of your element, and you're the one groping for fallacies to justify, once again, your insular, WASP world-view. 

 

Again, I've cooked in both restaurant kitchens and institutional kitchens.  Particularly in institutional cafeterias, the servers tend to not know what's in the food, and often the cooks aren't present to ask/answer about prep.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

 @scottindallas That's the thing about cults.  The particular flavor is just window dressing.  What is important is to draw distinctions between the inner-good world and the outside-corrupt-evil world.  Diet is one of the easier ways to do it.

 

Cults aren't about theology, they are about control.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @devildog943 that's my point, what's yours?  It's JEric that's suggesting Jesus either ate pork or gave sanction to do so.  He said, I came to fulfill the Law, not to alter or abolish it.  Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees and regarding legalism over washing of hands, or more likely taking full ablution before eating.  The line, with that Jesus declared all foods kosher is not in the Bible, it's a parenthetical insert.  JErick

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @LibtardSpotter But, it's pretty cavalier for you to impose your beliefs on others.  Not eating pork for lunch doesn't prevent you from eating pork.  But, putting pork in various foods, not just offering ham, and bacon; does exclude many from eating in that cafeteria.  I know you're an inconsiderate asshole; but that's no way to run a public facility.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @jerikjonsson The 7th Day Adventists, and all Jewish dietary laws would disagree.  Jesus never offered such sanction.  The heretical Paul, (who was NOT a balanced sort, and who seemed to undo the greater understanding of the Law that Jesus offered; decided to get back into the legalism of prescribing this and that) is not an authority with which to toss aside the law which Jesus came to fulfill, not to replace.  Of course the Trinity is a heresy, and Jesus never claimed to be God, but you likely subscribe to that too.  You suppose there are hints that this is ok, but Peter, who actually knew the living Jesus never ate unclean meat.  

jerikjonsson
jerikjonsson

 @scottindallas Sounds like I know an awful lot more about him than you.  FYI:  Mark 7 is a chapter of a book in the Bible.  You might want to read it.  Jesus and his followers were transgressive.  Assuming he never ate pork is unsupported by the historical record.

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