DART's Fares are Going Up

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After a veritable avalanche of public comments on Twitter and in 18 town hall meetings, DART's board of directors voted yesterday to hike -- er, "streamline" -- its fares.

The changes go into effect on December 3. The cost of a local ride jumps up from $1.75 to $2.50, with a corresponding hike in the cost of monthly and annual passes. Corporate passes also go up, but regional tickets, which cover rides on DART, the Trinity Railway Express, The T in Fort Worth, and DCTA in Denton, will cost the same and the intermediate "system" category, which I never could quite get my head around anyway, is gone.

Seniors, kids, and high school students will still get a cheaper ride at $1.25. Prices are also cheaper between 9:30 a.m. and 2:30 p.m. You can look at all the changes here.

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dmtrousdale
dmtrousdale

@test: Our highways and public roads don't 'pay for themselves,' either. Our government (federal, state, what-have-you) is not designed to be profitable. Contrary to popular belief, the USPS does turn a profit, and receives no taxpayer funds. All of its revenue must come from sales of postage, it's retail products, etc.

coachbranden
coachbranden

From a cost standpoint, it is the regional rides that cost the most to provide. Someone who is traveling from Parker Road or North Carrollton ride more miles and pay the same as someone riding the inner bus a few or the train only from Mockingbird to downtown Dallas. Local riders are also more numerous than their regional counterparts. You will find more riders boarding trains and buses inside LBJ freeway than outside. So more people ride the local and the local costs less to provide, yet their cost went up and the regional didn't?

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

Oh, I forgot.  The new schedule has local fares between the hours of 9.30 and 14.30 at $1.75 with unlimited rides (a bargain).  But, I'm confused by the footnote which says: Monday through Friday. That leaves me wondering what the fares are on Saturday and Sunday.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

I like DART trains.  They're always on time, they're clean and safe.  Much better than the subways I grew up riding in.  Now, the buses are another story.  They are sadly in need of replacement.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

Subways and locals on NYC's MTA are only $2.25. 

 

Dallas transit is now more expensive for riders than NYC.

test
test

Still doesnt cover the cost-per-rider. DART pays for it self about as well as the post office.

resams72
resams72

The System fares have been eliminated and consolidated into the Regional fares.  So instead of a 3 tier system there is now a 2 tier system.  The Regional fares are now lower that the original system fares and now encompass a larger area.

The "Single" ride system which was $1.75 for 90 minutes has been eliminated.  Now you have a Local fare good for 2 hours for 2.50, which gives people more time to get to and from whatever location they're going to.

It looks like Dart is address the fact that MANY people were exploiting the system by getting on a bus with a local fare and trying to use it as a system pass and that the single ride 90 minute period may have been too short and caused problems for their riders.  Anyone that consistently takes the bus, especially through the Downtown East and West transfer centers will see people constantly arguing with the drivers on trying to use a local fare as a system fare.  These changes are better for the system as a whole.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

 @test so what do you suggest?  raise the rates even more to the point that it not affordable to ride?  C'mon bring the ideas

MikeRtrtrty
MikeRtrtrty

@resams72 When does the system fare come into play except on TRE west of W Irving and maybe the fancy buses to the northern burbs? As noted, the bus arguments are from the low life's taking expired tickets out of trash and trying to reuse them. DART got rid of system fares since few used them and it offered opportunity to raise regional fares that more people use

MrRabbitt
MrRabbitt

 @ScottsMerkin Who rides the train on the weekend?!..  Folks who have to work. DUH!!! .  . What? You think the entire City is taking off for the weekend? . .  No, in the REAL WORD not everybody has that luxury. SOMEBODY has to man their battle stations & serve selfish idiots like you, Just sayin!

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

 @big_oj How is that?  Did they order a new fleet of buses?  The current ones are horrible.  Seats missing.  Filthy, smelling of urine.  Shocks broken.

resams72
resams72

 @MikeRtrtrty  @resams72 I think you have regional and system confused.  Regional was west of Irving on the TRE and the switch to Denton.  People commuting for work from inner city out to the burbs and vice versa use a system fare.  http://www.dart.org/fares/fares.asp

Those fancy system buses actually get used.  Las Colinas gets that type of traffic.. I used the 202 and it was busy.  Now fortunately we have the Orange line and it's less of a hassle.  Either way people exploit the system and they're closing the loophole.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

 @MrRabbitt whoa mr rabbitt, slow the fuck down.  someone doesnt have a sense of humor and must hate life that they bitch about working on the weekend.  how do you know im selfish?  youve never met me, and nothing about my post was selfish

MrRabbitt
MrRabbitt

 @Myrna.Minkoff-Katz  Oh, well that's an easy answer.  The new midday pass, good between 9:30 a.m. and 2:30 p.m. Monday through Friday, is $1.75 for the Local and $3.50 for the Regional pass. . .When regularly, it'll be 2.50

MrRabbitt
MrRabbitt

 @Myrna.Minkoff-Katz Well then buy a car & maintain your seating in that vehicle. . . DART can't control it's passengers & the harm they cause to their vehicles. I'm a "It is what it is" kinda guy. Somethings you can't control, so don't worry about it. *shrugs*

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

 @MrRabbitt Well, I'm happy you're happy with sub-standard conditions.  I'm not happy about them, however.

MrRabbitt
MrRabbitt

 @Myrna.Minkoff-Katz I've been in those buses, & that rarely happens. When it does happen, it happens THAT day when some foolish child decides to adopt that seat as his target of vandalism. The bus drivers can't just stop their whole route for one missing seat at the time.  . . Not much one can do, DART doesn't plan to randomly lose their seat cushions, so they don't carry spares on hand. But, I get your issue & what you're saying. It's just not that bad. I've been riding the bus now since 96? DART has come  a LOOOOONGG way. 

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

 @MrRabbitt Try riding an inner city bus, not the spanking new ones that express to the 'burbs.  There are missing seats with only springs left.

MrRabbitt
MrRabbitt

 @Myrna.Minkoff-Katz  You are being over dramatic. SOME of the buses have those issues & I have never seen a bus with seats missing . .  Unless you're talking about the handicapped seats, because those go up for folks in wheel chairs, DUH! =/

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