Dena Schlosser, the Plano Baby Chopper, is Outed then Fired from Walmart. Now What?

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The moment Channel 8 reporter Teresa Woodard opened her mouth to tell viewers Dena Schlosser, the Plano baby chopper, had been seen working as a checker at Walmart, you knew Dena Schlosser was already no longer working at Walmart.

Of course they fired her before the story ever hit the air. What choice did they have?

Eight years ago Schlosser hacked both arms off her 10-month-old daughter with a butcher knife because she heard God telling her to do it. Once you know that about her, it's probably hard not to get the shivers when she asks you if you found everything you need.

But it's terribly sad that she had to get sacked. Here she was, working, trying to put together a productive life. She's not a criminal. She's a crazy person. Through the miracle of brain research and pharmacology, she can be rendered not crazy. Modern medicine can reach out, take her by the hand and lead her back from the gates of hell, all the way to Walmart.

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Dena Schlosser
I don't get why people hate her. I do get why people might hate Michael Lee Page, the Wisconsin Sikh shooter. From what we know early on, he wasn't crazy. He was evil. Evil and crazy are different.

Hating people for being crazy is part and parcel of the problem. Then we feel justified in doing less to help them. Then they wander around downtown crazy until they flip out and do something terrible again. Then we hate them again and rationalize not helping them.

How is that a winning formula?

The person who put all of this best may be Kimberly Bigler-Burnett of Frisco, a commenter on the WFAA website who said:

"I think it unchristian to deprive her of her livelihood and to continue her life. Just having the knowledge of what she did to her child will be with her the rest of her life no matter what judge or jury of what people say."

Bigler-Burnett spoke to the same issue I'm talking about, the extinction of compassion.

"If everyone including the ones who voiced their views on getting Walmart to fire her would VOICE it for Mental Health facilities here in the US, perhaps she could have been helped when she was having her mental issues. Her child could have been saved!"

Yeah, maybe. Certainly taunting schizophrenics and tossing them out on the street is not making anybody's babies safer. At the very least, it would seem like keeping Dena Schlosser stable is the safer course.

I groaned when I saw the WFAA piece, not because I didn't get the story from a news business point of view. Obviously I get the story. You find a famous baby-hacker working at Walmart, it's a story. People will watch or read the heck out of that sucker.

And I know that in this day and age, a lot of stuff goes on the air and gets published with something less than scholarly attention to balance. As an assistant city editor once said to me in my youth which was a long time ago, "Hey, kid, we're not gonna bind it in pigskin."

But the piece was so breathless, so shocking-news, so This just in! There she was, the poor lady, in somebody's cell phone photo, slaving away at Walmart, and here was Teresa Woodward in her excellent makeup and wardrobe telling us how this crazy bitch cut off the bay's arms because ... get this! ... "She said God told her to."

God! She tried to get God in on it! It would be one thing if she said it was Rick Perry. But trying to get God in trouble! This just goes too far.

There has been balancing coverage elsewhere since then, quoting shrinks about how damaging it's going to be to toss this lady out of her job brusquely and send her back to some shit apartment to stare at her medicine bottles. You get a sense of how much effort it takes for Dena Schlosser just to get up in the morning, push back her demons and trudge off to work. This lady's got demons that make most of our demons look like girl scouts.

We need to leave this poor person the hell alone. The proper response, when that nosy customer spied her at Walmart, would have been to reach out, touch her on the sleeve and say, "You look wonderful. I'm so glad you have a good job."

By the way, speaking of the Wisconsin shooter, one "expert" on WFAA the other night pronounced the religious denomination of the victims as "Sheik," and I think Gloria Campos last night may have pronounced it as "Sick." Talk about not being part of the solution.

I'm not blaming Walmart for firing Schlosser. I have my own feet of clay here. If I had run into her, I might have said, "OK, I am going to touch you on the arm now, but you are not going to touch me on my arm." I hope I wouldn't say that, but ... you know. She's scary.

Scary people. They are always with us. What are we going to do about it? How do we think hating them makes anything better?


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barney6243
barney6243

She might be free, but I wouldn't want her living next to me. Sorry, but that's just the way it is

DrPain
DrPain

I feel no sympathy for this butcher.

DrPain
DrPain

I feel no sympathy for this butcher, even if it was stated she was crazy.

ozonelarryb
ozonelarryb

Must be sumpin bad in TX water....you also got Andrea Yates, who said God told her to drown her kids; the nut in Tyler who used the same excuse; and the nut in Crawford who said God told him to invade Iraq.

ozonelarryb
ozonelarryb

Just burn her at the stake, or dunk her till she drowns.  That's what the Jesus establishment did for years.

 

To add to Kimberley's wisdom - why doe the US Bible Belt spawn such intolerant swine?

 

TSEA
TSEA

Jim, Teresa Woodard's report is a model in objectivity compared to Brett Shipp's leading and biased segment on Schlosser.  I think his report may have appeared before Woodard's, but I'm not sure.  I searched for Shipp's report on WFAA's website, and it didn't appear.  Not sure why it would be scrubbed, unless for legal reasons (?).  If you didn't see it you should try to find it ... the guy's heavy use of inflection is ridiculous.  Byron Harris isn't much better by recently chasing after the guy who's driving away in a pickup truck.  Byron looked like a wobbly-legged lamb.  I mean ... how about some personal if not professional dignity? 

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

God "tells" millions of people in the Bible Belt to hate.

roo_ster
roo_ster

Evil is as evil does, crazy or no.

 

That gal ought never take another breath as a free woman.

 

Mr Schutze, you exhibit the same goofy perspective that kept her from her meeting the Big Needle in Huntsville.  Some dude, with a similar load of Krazee Puffs in his skull, shoots the hell outta people and he is evil, while a woman who murders her baby is just a sick woman in need of sympathy.  Only in the fevered imaginings of the sadly duped.  Both need to be put down like calves with severe birth defects.

movinondown
movinondown

Maybe she can start a talk show with that woman from San Antonio who ate he baby's brain using a sword for a spoon because "the devil told her to."

 

Yeah. They can call it "My Voice Nation"

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

she was a checker at WalMart because there were no jobs open in the butcher meat dept.

J_A_
J_A_

What type of rehabilitation is effective enough for schizophrenics to be reintegrated into society? Short of lobotomies or putting them all on an island together? Someone would probably turn it into a reality show.

movinondown
movinondown

IS THAT A NO ON YOU GIVING HER A JOB, JIMBO?

Guest
Guest

The idea behind assuming another identity is to relocate, which she should have done. This poor woman does need to be able to get on with her life. Those of you who can't see her within society or fathom the result of her sickness, obviously are perfectly healthy and never had a family member or parent suffer from depression. You are all truly blessed and should thank your God instead of fighting over how to pronounce the word, Sikh. Idiots.

 

Does anyone seriously think she is going to go postal (or wal-y) on her co-workers?  It is just plain mean and evil to treat ex-offenders and ex-felons, like lepers and demand a resignation, just because you can.  Wow, way to be big man/fat girl on campus. It just shows how small our society is becoming intellectually. 

 

Snapping pics and posting them, of someone who was damaged but is trying to repair their life, is the evil side of social media.  it won't be long until we are forced to build city's specifically  for ex-offenders and ex-felons so they can live, work, or go to school in peace. There are so many, they could easily fill up several cities and many small towns and own the car dealerships, bakeries, banks, housing or work at the Wal-mart.

kergo1spaceship
kergo1spaceship

The state should have just put her to death, and spared us, and her the grief. Who would hire this thing?  How is she out and working at a Walmart after she cut her babies arms off?  Maybe the Walmart in hell needs help. 

Americano
Americano

I don't care what the reason, she cut off her baby's arms.  Whether she's crazy, depressed, evil or just having a bad day.  That crime is so egregious, she should NEVER see a free day again.  Oh, we can make her un-crazy with drugs and therapy?  That yo-yo goes both ways.  Imagine cutting the arms off a screaming baby using a butcher knife.  Not a quick, clean cut, but holding the innocent child down and sawing the arms off.  That's not evil?  If that's not evil, there is no evil.  She shouldn't be free, much less working at WalMart.  Although that is probably some form of punishment, it's not enough.  We should all be protected from Monsters like her, and those that support them.

movinondown
movinondown

"But it's terribly sad that she had to get sacked. Here she was, working, trying to put together a productive life."

 

You are either trolling or you need to be checked out by a competent professional.

BurmaJones
BurmaJones

 @ozonelarryb The fucking Bible Belt spawned this woman and inspired her to kill her baby, dipshit.

numapompilius
numapompilius

 @TSEA The guy in the pickup truck?  Seriously?? Why don't you read what that story was about... you might chase him too.. unless of course you were driving the pick up or support what he was up to. compassion is one thing, stupidity is something else entirely!

BurmaJones
BurmaJones

 @Myrna.Minkoff-Katz "God" apparently tells lots more Muslims to hate than he tells Christians to hate, judging by the daily violence and terrorism committed by Muslims worldwide.  I'm an atheist so I'm impartial.  Stupid bitch.

 

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @roo_ster actually, I don't think the murder of one person would constitute capital murder.  Was she committing other felonies at the time?  Crazy is capriciously applying the law beyond the letter or spirit of the law. 

planecrazy
planecrazy

The bitch is fucking nuts people.  Guest, you'll be the same sorry son-of-a-bitch that would cry "Why is she still in society?!?!?!?!" when she does, in fact, and will, go insane at the counter and shoot, hack, stab, strangle, etc. innocent people.  She lost her right to be next to me at the bar stool when she chopped of her newborn's arms.  CHOPPED OFF HER ARMS!!!!  So feel very free to call me uncaring, unforgiving, incompassionate, etc.  I'll will glady wear it and display it on my jacket proudly.  This nutcase got a slap on the wrist for a heinous crime.  Her future should be in a facility who can monitor her every thought and movement to keep the sane public safe.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

 @Guest you say do we seriously think she is going to go postal on her co-workers?  I say, well did we seriously think she would hack her baby's arms off?  If she falls of her pill wagon for 1 day, she could be the next mass murderer at Walmart

kergo1spaceship
kergo1spaceship

 @Guest 

"This poor woman does need to be able to get on with her life"...........really?  Purgatory is too good!  Too good.  Are you by chance a patient of the State Mental Institution?   Anything she gets at this point, she deserves;  this is the problem in this day and age, you can kill your baby, and be free within a couple of years.  I deal no quarter here.  When this vile crap becomes acceptable because of whatever ailment a bandage can't fix, you set them free....really? 

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @kergo1spaceship Maybe if we weren't putting people to death, we could afford to keep people incarcerated for longer.  Seeing as how it costs 5-7 times more to enact the death penalty as it does to incarcerate for life; for every person we put down, that means 4-6 get early release.  You failed to volunteer to pay more taxes to implement your policy.  Now go and reflect on your juvenile, irresponsible advocacy.  You want the world, but refuse to offer to pay for it.

keila_oleary
keila_oleary

@LibtardSpotter As a liberal myself, I gotta say this article reallly was written by a "libtard." I may be against the death penalty, but this woman should be kept in a mental ward for the rest of her natural life. I don't "hate her," but if she was sick enough to hack her baby's limbs off, she is too sick to be out in society... bagging my food. So yes, she is very sick but the author thinks the "knowledge of her daughters death is enough punishment" pisses me off. My favorite part is when she writes, "We need to leave this poor person the hell alone. The proper response, when that nosy customer spied her at Walmart, would have been to reach out, touch her on the sleeve and say, "You look wonderful. I'm so glad you have a good job." Take comfort knowing a liberal in San Francisco is rolling her eyes and shaking her head at this crap along with you. 

TSEA
TSEA

 @numapompilius

 No, I'm positive that I would not chase -- on foot -- after someone driving away in a pickup.  I'd probably get in my car and chase him.  Point is ... the investigative journalists use stunts like running after people for sensational rather than actual effect, and, among other things, it's silly.  If you disagree on this point, that's fine, but don't bother lobbing additional ad hominem attacks at me.  You will be wasting your time -- seriously. 

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @BurmaJones actually, Muslims are fighting for rights, human, and civil.  You should consider our role in subverting their democracies.  Or, in the case of Syria or the Mujuhadeen our arming, funding and training them to commit acts of terror.  You're completely out of your element.  Islamic "just war theory" is far more restrained than Christian just war theory, or the wars advocated by the Colonial West on the Middle East, from the Crusades to the present day.

MissMacy
MissMacy

 @BurmaJones God doesn't have to tell Christians to hate. They do it all by themselves, constantly. 

mewkins
mewkins

@scottindallas @roo_ster Sorry Dude, you're wrong. Babies and cops are a protected class. If you kill 1 person under 10 years of age you've committed capital. Go and take a gander at the Texas Penal Code if you don't believe me.

Guest
Guest

 @kergo1spaceship   We're all surprised she has been released so soon, however, she will be in prison of guilt and judgement the rest of her natural life, which is a worse sentence, especially since she probably doesn't remember it.  Btw, who died and made you God?

devildog943
devildog943

 @scottindallas A rare occasion, we agree on something, if only because I see life imprisonment vs execution as something of an economic issue.

If, in cases where there is little doubt of guilt (James Holmes being a stellar example), the protracted appeals and delays process were to be shortened to a minimum, the 'cost' of executing a murderer would be far less than the cost of life imprisonment. Philosophically, I support the death penalty, pragmatically, I can see where life (meaning you leave prison in a coffin) imprisonment would cost the taxpayers less money.

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

 @numapompilius My own technique as an aggressive investigative journalist is to wait until the guy is gone and then scream bad shit about his mom.  Wait. Is that a technique or a syndrome? Well, is journalism a profession or a syndrome? It's Saturday. Gotta go organize my tool shed.

numapompilius
numapompilius

 @TSEA  @numapompilius let me see.. Harris has how many world class awards for investigative reporting? And you have????   (just sayin')   You think this was just a "stunt"  Again, why not try just watching the report to see if maybe there WAS an attempt to meet with the guy...  (if not, you'd be correct) as opposed to your idea of "get in my car and chase him" which would be not just  as "silly"  (your word) but put the rest of us at risk)

Americano
Americano

 @scottindallas The left uses the "hate" charge to silence those who disagree with them.  It's not enough to disagree with them, once you hate them, they must be destroyed.

Americano
Americano

 @MissMacy  @BurmaJones Disagreeing with you, Miss Macy, is not hate, it's freedom.  If you try to silence those with whom you disagree, using the hate cloak, eventually, it will be your ox being gored. 

kergo1spaceship
kergo1spaceship

 @scottindallas 

You stand by DUE PROCESS, and eat up tons of dollars and man hours dragging (I detect lawyer!) this through the system; fact remains she killed her baby HORRIFICALLY, and we know she, in fact, did this.........take her out back and put her out of her misery!  

 

What is that stupid shit about being on another planet?   Are you on Meth?

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @kergo1spaceship dipshit spaceship, In this country we have something called DUE PROCESS, look it up.  It's, like, in the Constitution and everything.  Maybe you were too spaced out, maybe you're imagining life on some other planet.  

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