Rep. Louie Gohmert Would Like to Clarify Some of the Weird Stuff He Said About the Aurora Shooting

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Louie Gohmert

Friday morning's horrific shooting in an Aurora, Colorado, movie theater moved a number of Texas politicians to tweet, Facebook and press-release their condolences. 1st District U.S. Representative Louie Gohmert got some extra attention -- and is now claiming his remarks were taken "grossly out of context" -- when he appeared on the program Istook Live! and ended up pontificating that the shootings were a result of " the ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs."

"You know, when people say, where was God in all of this?" Gohmert told the host. (A full transcript of his remarks can be found on his website.)

"Well, you know, we don't let ... in fact we've threatened high school graduation participants that if they use God's name that they're going to be jailed, we had a principal of a school, and a superintendent or a coach down in Florida that were threatened with jail because they said the blessing at a voluntary off-campus dinner. I mean, that kind of stuff. ... Where is God? Where, where? What have we done with God? We told him that we don't want him around. I kind of like his protective hand being present."

Gohmert also asked, "With all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying? That could have stopped this guy more quickly?"

Those remarks were widely reported and widely pissed everybody off. An editorial in The New York Times published the day of the shooting called Gohmert's remarks "heedless rhetoric" and "bizarre." (Or, in the words of one of his Facebook fans, "You're a total scumbag, Gohmert.")

The congressman posted a statement to his website over the weekend apologizing for the remarks. After saying they were taken out of context, he added, "When I learned of the tragedy I was heartbroken. Such devastation fills our hearts with sympathy making us want to hug our family and that should have been the extent of my comments.

"The killings were a senseless, outrageous act," he added. "Our thoughts and prayers continue for all those so tragically affected, and I am very sorry if my comments caused heartache to anyone in Colorado."

The same day the shooting occurred, Gohmert was also moved to angrily clarify that he often hugs friendly Muslims. Not a great week in talking for the congressman.



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oakclifftownie
oakclifftownie

At all the Dipshits  who think that a CHL person would have taken the evil doer out  OUT

 

I am the 2nd CHL Guy in the theater and I just put two in the back of your sorry ass  head .

 

No Wait I am not here because another CHL-er put two in the back of me .

 

But that's  OKAY Because the COPS blow that guy  away with a Shotgun .

 

I am a Gun owner.....

Don't you folks ever play these things out in your heads ?

 

 

 

 

 

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

they should edit out all scenes of VIOLENCE, explosions, guns, weapons, and anger of ANY kind for ALL MOVIES SHOWN PUBLICALLY IN AMERICA....anyone wanting to watch violent movies has to register as a Public Violence Offender and put their address on the internet and only get admitted to a violent movie by showing their ankle shackle and biometric ID card.

 

That'll fix all you violence voyeurs out there.....PAY TO PLAY....isolate from the rest of us Disney and Seasime Street lovers....

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

east texas has it's own cult of religiousity and elects representatives with little brain power but the ability to speak over the noise of a brushhog tractor motor noise.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

I would expect nothing less from these republican shit kickers.

jharris214
jharris214

Everytime I see this guy's name in the press I immediately think of Gomer Pyle, and his actions certainly justify that correlation. 

MattL11
MattL11

Here come the gun fetishists...

ElWhite
ElWhite

jmckee3: exactly, they should ban guns at that theater. That would make it safe. That guy would have seen the sign, been all "OH MAN DENIED" and gone home.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

One armed off-duty cop could have head-shotted this guy.  So could have a CCL citizen.  The citizen or the cop would have had the crowd, darkness, night-eyes and most of all - the element of surprise.  All you would need is an angle, and you wouldn't even need that if he was already killing.  Collateral damage goes out the window with this kind of killer.

Daniel
Daniel

What caliber would Jesus pack?

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

Louis, it's the un-friendly Muslims that could really use that hug.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

Guns don't kill people.

 

Gun free zones kill people.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

 @rufus levin or go the other way.  Humans have an innate fear of death by fire.  Chain this guy out on the public square and nationally televise his incineration.

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

 @Goober The washington times is not exactly a go to source for unbiased reporting, dude.

 

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

 @Myrna.Minkoff-Katz ....is shit kicker a common word used frequently about the Minkoff-Katz cave?   Or are you merely acting tough like a grown up image you got watching soccor moms?

MrPatriot
MrPatriot

 @holmantx What  a stupid idea. When you get multiple people firing their guns all at the same time, how are you going to know who is on whose side? Who is working with the gunman and who is working against him? And just how is the darkness going to be an advantage? In addition, didn't you hear about the tear gas? And what about bullet proof from head to toe. 

RTGolden
RTGolden

 @holmantx That 'collateral damage' you're talking about are people.  Someone's kid, mother, brother, wife, husband, father, etc.  Your advantages listed are questionable at best: the crowd (panicked and running around between you and your target); darkness (I doubt most CCL carrier's bring NVG's to the theater with them); night-eyes (what the hell are those? Do you also have smoke/flash/movie screen eyes?); and most of all - Surprise(I bet you'd have been surprised as hell had you been sitting there when all this unloosed).  

 

Collateral damage never 'goes out the window'.  I'm not saying a CCL or off-duty cop could not have ended this quicker and possibly saved lives.  It is entirely possible that someone carrying could have saved numerous lives; but, I'd like to get your attitude about collateral damage when some of that collateral is yours (wife, child, mother,etc.).

 

If you're wondering: spoken as a gun-owning, 2nd amendment advocating, Army vet.

Scruffygeist
Scruffygeist

 @holmantx You're full of shit. It's a nice video game or movie script, that's it. Even people carrying and trained aren't trained for every situation or have the skills to pull it off.

jharris214
jharris214

 @holmantx The towns in the Old West that imposed gun control laws stricter than the ones on the books today would probably beg to differ.

 

Goober
Goober

 @Montemalone so... you are alleging that the Washington Times altered the transcript in some way? They fabricated Napolitano pulling out the islamophobe card at 3:25 in order to deflect the line of questioning? Please...., enlighten us more with your expertise  in the matter.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

 @MrPatriot no choice once the shooter opened up on the crowd.  Whoever is armed must immediately go right at him.  In fact, statistically that that will result in the fewest casualties. Frontal assault/individual action, even if you are unarmed.  I realize that is a difficult concept but had this guy's primary weapon not jammed (he reportedly ditched it and went to pistols), the count would have probably been more like the Norwegian's (69 dead).

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

 @RTGolden It's hypothetical and situational however, I suspect an armed citizen would only have a few seconds before he lost the element of surprise.  No sense shooting into body armor, and a gas mask greatly limits the attacker's field of vision.  So yeah, empty the pistol into the face of the masked man.  

 

The only way to minimize collateral damage is well-aimed rounds.

ChrisYu
ChrisYu

 @Scruffygeist  @holmantx

 i'm guessing 98% of people that have to be first in line to see Batman don't know how to handle a firearm

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

 @RTGolden One of the outcomes of Columbine was a change in tactics.  First on the scene engage immediately with whatever is at your disposal.  If the shooter is active, engage.

 

do not cordon, isolate and wait. 

RTGolden
RTGolden

 @holmantx  @MrPatriot In this you are 100% correct.  Someone engaging him directly, armed or unarmed, and moving at him, has a better chance for a positive outcome.  SOP for ambushes is to charge into the heaviest fire.  That is how the shootings at Ft. Bragg in the 90's were ended quickly.  Two soldiers out running charged the shooter and were able to gain control of the situation.

 

Of course, they were SF, worked well together, and were able to come at SGT Kreutzer from an unexpected direction.

RTGolden
RTGolden

 @scottindallas  @holmantx I would imagine a shot to the ballistic helmet would have effectively ended the engagement.  If they're talking about military grade Kevlar helmets, a shot at close range from anything larger than a .38 would still ring your bell and likely cause pretty sever neck injuries.  If it was an older, metal-based helmet, a head shot would probably render him unconcious.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @holmantx he was said to have a ballistic helmet.   I don't know what that means, as to effectiveness/protection.   I would imagine a bullet to a helmet that protected you from the bullet penetrating the mask/helmet would hurt and likely throw one off.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

 @holmantx there were 2 or 3 service members killed in that incident, sadly, they were unarmed.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

 @ChrisYu it's the 2% that I'm looking for.  And the 2% that were not there that night, unfortunately.

RTGolden
RTGolden

 @holmantx  @ChrisYu 1) Infantry are trained to react to combat situations.  This is a key distinction here.  We have seen the results of using Army and Marine Infantry as a 'peacekeeping' or 'nation-building' force.  It is less than ideal, because peacekeeping is not warfare, it is a police action.  This is not the fault of the Marines or Soldiers, who only react according to their training; they eliminate any and all threats.  They attempt to avoid collateral damage, but that is secondary to eliminating the threat.

 

In a civilian scenario, avoiding collateral damage is equal in importance to eliminating the threat.  The people who constitute 'collateral damage' in this case are not combatants, they are innocents.  They are the people Soldiers and Marines are sworn to protect, they are the people the Police are sworn to protect.  Again, I would bet, dollar for dollar, that if one of your loved one's was killed in the crossfire, by the CCL holder's rounds, you'd redefine your views on acceptable collateral damage.  I'm not saying a concealed carrier does nothing, but he does not, in a crowded theater, with people running everywhere, smoke, darkness, disorientation, etc, stand up and just start firing away.

 

2) Your story still has nothing to do with this situation.  Again, the difference is :  Combat Environment vs. Civilian Environment.  Ask any combat Marine or Soldier and they'll tell you there is a very clear and very important distinction between the two.

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

 @lala more like someone unfamiliar with English word construction....a la "head-shotted".....sounds like a drinking round game at a 20 somethings punk rocker bar.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

 @RTGolden  @ChrisYu when the situation has reduced itself to a single attacker, at close range, employing a drum-fed semi-automatic weapon that has jammed (or not, really) . . . it is called immediate action which most infantry constantly train for.  And in this instance the response would have to be immediate - empty your weapon into the head of the armored attacker without regard to collateral damage.  You have to do it.

 

For he will as soon as he acquires you through is gas mask.

 

And that story is most relevant since those marines stood their ground.  They did not back down even though they knew the odds of hitting the driver enough times he would not set off the truck bomb were nil.

 

They reacted immediately and with the maximum force available to them.

RTGolden
RTGolden

 @holmantx  @ChrisYu Nice story in the link.  Has absolutely nothing to do with this story, this thread, or your comment.  General Kelly spoke a lot of things in that piece, none of them said "collateral damage goes out the window".

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

 @lala spoken like someone who lives in lala-land.

lala
lala

 @holmantx Spoken like a someone who only knows guns and can't see two feet in front of him when it comes to the bigger picture. 

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