Ousted Lesbian Scout Leader Jennifer Tyrell Will Confront Boy Scouts Brass in Irving on Wednesday

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You might know Jennifer Tyrell as the mother from Ohio ousted as den leader of her 7-year-old's Cub Scout pack not because all the other kids were jealous that her son is named Cruz Burns, which is undoubtedly the awesomest name a second grader could have, but because she is a lesbian. She was devastated. Cried for two days, she told CNN back in April.

But then, she got to work. Change.org, the for-profit online petition incubator, sent word this morning that Tyrell has collected more than 300,000 signatures in support of her reinstatement as Bridgeport, Ohio Pack 109 and the end of the Boy Scouts of America's policy of banning gay leaders. And in case you assumed Tyrell's supporters were just ordinary homophiles, Change.org's press release points out the extremely relevant piece of information that "Tyrell's campaign has earned the support of numerous celebrities as well, including Julianne Moore, Benicio Del Toro, Josh Hutcherson, Ricky Martin and others."

Which is great, but the BSA has taken pains to stress that it has no intention of changing its policy of blocking "open or avowed homosexuals" from membership in the organization. Because even though a board member presented a resolution to that effect earlier this year and a BSA spokesperson met with a petitioner opposed to the policy at about the same time, it still believes gay people "engage in behavior that would become a distraction to the mission of the BSA."

Still, Tyrell is forging ahead. She'll be in Irving on Wednesday with Cruz to hand-deliver the petition to BSA brass. They will be flanked by cameras and other reporters, because the media loves a good David vs. Goliath story. Especially when David is gay, Goliath is the Boy Scouts, and instead of killing the giant and becoming king of Israel, David is mercilessly ignored.

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Tragic Heroine
Tragic Heroine

Not all lesbians wear Doc MARTENS. Some of the most feminine heterosexual women you might know, wear them. Careful of that cultural stereotyping, dear.

RTGolden
RTGolden

I will not put myself into Doc Martins.

KR3993
KR3993

"If we dumb everything down to accommodate everyone than it doesn't do society any real favors in the long run...... The funniest was seeing a car with a 'Fight Racism' and 'Fight Sexism' sticker right next to a 'Keep Men Out of TWU' sticker." First off that beginning quote is just a clear, perfect way to put it and ending it with nearly the exact hypocrisy of the anti-BSA commenters is just priceless! Thanks for pointing out the stupidity of this argument.

KR9393
KR9393

Your premise is invalid. Private vs. public is all this is about. Yeah if it were a government run organization, you could not ban gays because it is what is best for society as a whole and some in this government believe discriminating on a growing voting block is not what is best for society, though it might or might not be (yet to be seen). The individual rights of a private club/organization/fraternity/sorority/school gives them the great American ability to determine what is best for their organization as a whole, not society. Again, your premise is invalid.

Ryankarl39
Ryankarl39

Anyone who is saying the BSA is making decisions based on "bigotry and political pressure from religious organizations" is just blind to their own personal beliefs and bigotry towards others who don’t believe what they believe in. You, the one saying the BSA is just a bunch of ignorant, out of touch, societal outcasts, you eat your words when someone has a different moral standard than you, which don’t forget half the country does. When polled, half the country does not believe gay marriage should be legal and WELL over half of the states have banned gay marriage when actually voting on it. Now, when an organization that has thrived for the past 110+ years in molding boys and turning them into young men with character and great leadership abilities, you turn to them and pressure, ostracize, publically criticize, and call them terrible people??? Open your eyes and understand you are not better than the one you hate. 

Not Joe
Not Joe

-So you're a racist homophobe, that's what. Appreciate you clearing that up for us.

Ket
Ket

This was their original justification, and it makes a lot fo sense if you don't think about it.  But, then they were quickly ediucated on how that was inconsistent with just about every study of sexual predators and the fact that women are allowed to be Boy Scout Leaders. Then, when you think about it, it makes no sense. So, they had to fall back on interpretation of the Scout Law; cleanliness and morally straaight being the points they stuck to. (I still don't see how a homosexual in a committed relationship is less clean than philandering heterosexual, but that's their interpretation.) The Scout Law is pretty simple and clearly list achievable goals any youth or leader should strive for. What it doesn't do is clearly preclude homosexuals. So you can violate just about every point in the Scout Law and still be a leader, except if you are gay. Then you have to either violate the part on being thruthful or leave.

Ket
Ket

I also have a choice to stay and work for change. You sound like the type of person who says "This is America, don't like it you can leave." whenever someone you don't agree with points out a problem. That gets us nowhere. Nothing gets better for anyone, everything gets worse for everyone. That's not America, that's just sad.

Gat2keeponmovin
Gat2keeponmovin

I don't hate gays at all.  Crusaders of identity politics are sad and self hateful though.

Ket
Ket

I don't think the person was talking about sex in the meetings. The BSA has clear rules against that. But it also will kick out someone who never mentions sex in the meetings but is publicly known to be homosexual. So, as long as you are ashamed of your homosexuality and willing to hide it from everyone you can participate with the BSA. That makes you morally adequate in their eyes.

Gat2keeponmovin
Gat2keeponmovin

So in effect you don't believe in anyone having the freedom to choose who they associate with? A private club that accepts anyone wouldn't exactly be private anymore-- would it. The so called discrimination(lol) you are ranting about takes place every single day.  Typical liberal attitude telling everyone else what to do and how to live.

Ket
Ket

Why is that the only solution? Why can't the millions of people who are a part of the scouting movement but disagree with this one relatively new exclusionary rule voice their opinion in the hopes that the BSA will some day change their mind? Why is that so bad? If you joined a club and worked hard for the success of that club and then they changed the rules and said no Italians can join the club would you settle for that? Would you want your association with that club to be tarnished by their new "no-Italians" rule? Would you just walk away after all the work you had put into it? Maybe you would, that is certainly an option. But it isn't the only one.

Ket
Ket

Is that why you hate the gays?

Ket
Ket

They don't want in, they are in. Always have been and always will be. Just like little league, flag football, band, band and the chess club.  Now, the BSA just wants them to lie about it.

Gat2keeponmovin
Gat2keeponmovin

" What if the scouts said no den leader who is x% larger than normal size could be a den leader? What if they said a red haired person couldn't be a scout leader?" What if?

Gat2keeponmovin
Gat2keeponmovin

Everyone covets what they can not have if only to destroy it.

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