First Baptist's Robert Jeffress Loves Chick-Fil-A, Still Hates Gay People

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No worries, Rev. Gay people don't like you either.
First Baptist Pastor Robert Jeffress has made his predictable entree into the newly opened front of the culture war centered on Chick-fil-a.

"The liberals have gone into a frenzy," said Jeffress, according to the Christian Post (via DMN). "Their first response was to try to stop the expansion of businesses with which they disagree. That should be of great concern for every American," he added.

It's kind of true. Boycott Chick-fil-a, sure, but things kinda jumped the shark when elected officials started pledging to block new restaurants. But never mind. We now know where Jeffress stands on chicken sandwiches. If it wasn't clear before how he feels about gay people, Right Wing Watch reminds us.

Jeffress was a guest on Thursday's edition of The Janet Medford Show when the topic turned to homosexuality. They lead a "miserable lifestyle" more prone to "depression, or suicide, or alcoholism." Jeffress doesn't suggest it, but maybe that's because a sizable chunk of the population equates homosexuality with bestiality and incest, as Jeffress proceeds to do, per RWW's transcript:

Jeffress: God's plan for sexuality is one man with one woman in a lifetime commitment called marriage. Any deviation from that is sin. And of course, I'm always, the retort to that is 'oh! Are you pulling a Rick Santorum and saying that homosexuality is like bestiality, uh, incest, or pedophilia'? And I say 'Yes.'. It is just as immoral as those practices. But then I'm quick to add, it's also just as immoral as adultery, pre-marital sex, or unbiblical divorce. Any deviation from god's plan is sin.

Mefferd: Well, but so much of what they're trying to do now is not just say "accept us and don't be discriminatory in your beliefs". But also, embrace it, see that the bible really was wrong in these passages, in Leviticus and Romans I and it's really not commending homosexuality. It's almost as if they're trying to co-opt the bible and make it say what it obviously does not say.

Jeffress: Absolutely, you have to do so many hermeneutical gymnastics. But what you really have to do is just throw out the bible to get to the point that you say, that uh, it's uh normal. There are two agendas that homosexuals have in order to gain acceptance. First of all they try to normalize their behavior but also to marginalize as bigots those of us who oppose homosexuality. Normalize and marginalize are the two tactics. And they are being extremely successful about it.

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Jeffress: We're the ones that have a message of hope. And the message of hope we have is you don't have to stay the way you are. You can experience freedom. You can experience life as god intended you to have it, by trusting in Christ and following his plan. You know, it's the liberals that have no message of hope. It is the liberal message; 'you're born that way, and you have to stay that way until the day you die.' I mean, why is it that gays, and I talk about this in my book, you know, have such a more preponderance for depression, or suicide, or alcoholism. It is a miserable lifestyle. And that is why we, as preachers of the gospel and Christians, we've got the message of hope, and we need to quit being ashamed to share it.


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joshwalker1970
joshwalker1970

This is not way to hate on mormons (or jehovahs) but I will agree with Jeffress about one thing and that is his comments about Mormonism: it is a cult and a bad one at that. Mormonism is pretty much up there or I should say out there with that of that science church and that Jehovah witness cult. Granted, Mormons appear to live clean and holy lives but other than that, their theology is way off and because of this and their ridiculous beliefs and doctrines, Mormon’s like most evangelical groups that call themselves Christian are indeed not Christians. The fundamental theology of a Christian is the belief about who Jesus is – read the Gospel of John. Jesus is not an angel and He is not the brother of Michael the Archangel. If you really want to get a very good idea on who Jesus is read the ancient Nicene Creed. It spells it out for you. It is not rocket science. Now, on to Jeffress - what a tool. To me, a baptist is right up there with the mormon and the Jehovah. To me, the only possible thing going for the baptist is that their theology is a little sounder (I said A LITTLE) than that of the mormon or Jehovah but that is about it. I do not think that I have ever known of a denomination as the Baptist that “hates” as much as the they do! Man, all I can say is “thank God” Jesus wasn’t a Baptist. There is nothing worse than a fundmental Christian.

Chuck711
Chuck711

They are the ones with the message of hope?  Does he mean the hope that we can all be intolerant, hateful, brainwashed douchebags like them?  Gee, I feel so much better!  And here I thought I might have to follow a life of reason and rationality for the rest of my life!  Whew!

Chiggers
Chiggers

Soooooooooo in the closet...

 

Poor lil' fella'

joseph
joseph

Homosexuals do not have to "marginalize (Jeffers) as a bigot". He's already  a bigot. However the First Baptist Church has made enormous strides from the days when they were overtly and aggressively racist and anti-semitic.  Thank goodness their influence has waned since those days.  Now Jeffress is just another Dallas right-wing crackpot bigot.

Americano
Americano

Although the Pastor had some bad things to say about a lifestyle he disagrees with, he didn't say he hated Gays.  Maybe the headline writer should actually read the story first.  I have Gay friends and they feel the same way about Conservative Christians, that they lead a miserable lifestyle.  So what?  If Christians were trying to block a Gay owned business, the Queens would be apoplectic.  Which is a level of apoplectic few get to see.  They should remember that if they can block a Christian owned business, Christians can and will go after their businesses.  I'm surprised at the lack of tolerance on the left, since they claim to only want tolerance.  Ok, I was kidding about that part, we all know the left only wants tolerance when they are in the minority.  As soon as they feel they have the power, that goes right out the window.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

This "man of God" is a disgrace; a hater.  This is the shit kicker that called Roman Catholics and Mormons cults.

Momto3nlakewood
Momto3nlakewood

Wow!  I will be sure not to visit Jeffress church.  He vomits hatred with each word he says.  As a parent of 3 children, I can assure you that if one of my children came home to tell me they were attracted to the same sex, I would love them unconditionally.  What kind of preacher would promote such sick hatred.  I know many heterosexual couples who are miserable, drink too much and are depressed.  I guess they must attend Jeffress' church.

halldecker
halldecker

What the hell is an "unbiblical divorce?"

 

What is a "biblical" one?

 

Given the sexual proclivities of some of those who preceded Jeff in the 1st Bab Pulpit,  he might considers taking their pictures down 'cause they were preverts.

TexOHara
TexOHara

I bet the U.S sweeps hermeneutical gymnastics in the London Olympics this year.

towski
towski

So amusing to me that, when something is happening they don't like, Jeffress and his people LOVE to protest it - but when they are protested against, it's a war on their beliefs.

RTGolden
RTGolden

Seven deadly sins: Lust.  Seems to be applicable to either homosexual or heterosexual behaviors.  Gluttony.  Not really applicable to this situation.  Greed.  Again, can be equally applied to homosexual or heterosexual people; could most certainly be applied to almost every member of Pastor Jeffress' church that I've met.  Sloth.  Probably not applicable to Jeffress, most probably not applicable to the majority of gays.  Wrath.  Drive in dallas?  Call this one a yes.  Envy.  Again, probably more applicable to mindset than to lifestyle.  Pride.  Jeffress: $80gazillion addition to the downtown Salvation Shopping Center and Food for the Soul Food Court. LGBT: they have a parade every year.

 

Add it all up and what ya got? Who cares?  Do I believe homosexuality is wrong?  It is for me, for everyone else, whatever trips your trigger.  Does Chik-fil-a have some sort of obligation to support same sex marriage?  Nope, not one bit.  They are free to disapprove of alternative lifestyles and those with those lifestyles are free to find alternative places to eat.

Montemalone
Montemalone topcommenter

Pee-yew!

 

That little turdfart is back blathering to other little turdfarts about his hate and bigotry.

 

Maybe he'll figure out he could have more fun if he stayed home and choked his chicken.

coachbranden
coachbranden

First, why do you guys keep giving him what he wants. He is an attention whore who loves espousing his ways to keep oppressing folks based on the bible. If this were 50 years ago, he would be saying how it was God's plan to keep blacks as slaves and second class citizens. "But what you really have to do is just throw out the bible to get to the point that you say, that uh, it's uh normal. There are two agendas that Blacks have in order to gain acceptance. First of all they try to normalize their behavior but also to marginalize as bigots those of us who oppose Blacks." It is crazy how that can be interchanges so easily.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

Any comment on the use of the term "hates gay people"?  Even the Left wing watch dog you refer to does not use this inflammatory rhetoric.

 

Is the mayor of Chicago acting on his hate?

 

Do you hate the Bible thumpers?

 

Are they out to kill your kids?

jmckee3
jmckee3

You know maybe gays would be a little happier if bigoted fucks like Jefferess weren't openly persecuting us.

 

And yes, we call you a bigot because you are one, if you have a problem with being called a bigot maybe you should stop being one.

Scruffygeist
Scruffygeist

Who gives a fuck? Do some real fucking journalism instead of getting the transcript of a credibility-lacking guy who only wants attention.

Chiggers
Chiggers

 @Myrna.Minkoff-Katz Well, he's correct on those two counts.

 

Even a blind chicken finds a kernel of corn now and again.

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

 @Momto3nlakewood What if they say they are attracted to your neighbor's pet goat? would "love" of your kids prevent you from getting them some serious therapy?

Chiggers
Chiggers

 @halldecker "Biblical Divorce" is something that is granted only to those that meet certain criteria as determined by the "Church" and its earthly administrators, and bestowed accordingly depending upon the level of "Dedication" ($$$$$) you demonstrate.

Chip
Chip

I laughed when I saw this comment, as "What the hell is an unbiblical divorce?" literally came out of my mouth when I first read that line.

 

Maybe he actually said "umbilical divorce," which could be, like, you know, abortion or something?

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

 @TexOHara only the female team members have a chance there....males have too much rudder sticking out.

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

 @RTGolden when I find out that Chik-fil-a is serving chicken that came from two rooster's eggs that actually resulting in a live chicken for my sandwich, then and only then will I believe that marriage between two same genders anything is a good idea....I think the CEO of CFA has the right business model....speaking of chicken on chicken sex....

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

 @coachbranden if it were 250 years ago, we ALL would be saying it was God's plan to keep blacks as slaves and NOT citizens at all....blacks have it pretty good today...

towski
towski

 @holmantx Um, this:

 

Are you pulling a Rick Santorum and saying that homosexuality is like bestiality, uh, incest, or pedophilia'? And I say 'Yes.'

 

Sounds like he hates them to me. Shrug.

CraigT42
CraigT42

 @holmantx Yes the bible thumpers are out to kill our kids.  At least they are out to kill the gay kids. One of the organizations that both Jeffries and Chik-fil-A have donated to sponsors hate bill internationally. Including a Ugandan bill that gives homosexual behavior a death sentence.

Seems pretty damn hateful to me.

 

And yes, the Chicago mayor was acting on hate, i believe that the article mentions his response was out of line

And yes again I do hate Bible thumpers. All of them,. Each and every one. I hate anyone and everyone who makes it their life goal to infringe on the rights of others, especially when they justify it with their Baptist Sharia.

coachbranden
coachbranden

@holmantx I don't know what you are trying to communicate

roo_ster
roo_ster

 @jmckee3

jmckee3: Persecution!

Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

=====

Overwrought hysterics brought to you compliments of jmckee3.

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

 @jmckee3 I have no problem with being called a bigotted fuck by a assfucking gaywad if they don't mind my passing judgement back on them as well.

halldecker
halldecker

 @Scruffygeist  You nailed it.  Hidden in the story,  he's flogging a book he appears to have written.

 

DO,   can you get a copy and do a followup??

ket354
ket354

I feel sorry for those of you who only see sex as a means for reproduction.

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

 @craig.thomas42 who are the abortionists out to kill....both gay and heterosexual unborn fetuses....all abortions infringe on the rights of the fetus who gets no say so in his or her own death

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

 @craig.thomas42 So the mayor of Chicago, the author of this piece, you, the good preacher and certain unidentified Ugandans are guilty of hate crimes?

 

Fortunately, I'm not in any of those categories.

RTGolden
RTGolden

 @craig.thomas42 The First Amendment still exists, .... but only for left leaning ideas?  Apparently it's not applicable to christians who own a business and publicly state they are opposed to gay marriage (they're not discriminating against homosexuals by not supporting them.  they'd have to actively implement company policy that is discriminatory, then they would be wrong, by your definition).  Apparently, the First Amendment also doesn't apply to preachers who agree with those business owner's views?  No matter how distasteful and ignorant some of these anti-LGBT views may be coming from the right, they still have the right to hold those views.  And they're really no worse than the vitriol pointed at the far right conservative christians by most of the commentators on this blog.

I support the rights of everyone to marry whomever or whatever they want to marry, but to claim that ALL the hate and vitriol is coming from the right on these issues is terribly myopic.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

 @craig.thomas42 Is not the crime the mayor is (re)acting to one of thought?  You seem to give him a pass.

 

"perfectly understandable knee-jerk reaction"

 

Not so with the preacher man, whom you must conjure Ugandans in order to complete the physical act.

 

In other words, you sound petty and self righteous, dispensing reasons as excuses.

CraigT42
CraigT42

 @holmantx No. The mayor of Chicago is guilty of having a perfectly understandable knee-jerk reaction.  The author of this piece has shown zero hate.  My hating bible thumpers is not a crime unless I act on it (despite the best efforts of bible thumpers the first amendment still exists and thought crime is not yet on the books).  there is no "Good" preacher even referenced anywhere here. And the unnamed Ugandans are their lawmakers with Lobbying and Cash from The FNC

halldecker
halldecker

 @rufuslevin Jeff wrote the Holy Bible?

 

I thought that old gay prevert King James did.

 

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