Mayor Mike Rawlings Wants to "Move in Haste" to Build Trinity Toll Road, Which State Says Will Move More Cars

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It looks so uncontroversial in the renderings.
Last month, Mayor Mike Rawlings asked the Texas Department of Transportation for figures showing the relative merits of building the Trinity toll road versus reviving the abandoned Project Pegasus, which would improve downtown's current highways of hell. This was after numbers provided by toll road opponents prompted the mayor to rethink his full-throated support for the long-delayed project.

He quickly dismissed any notion that he was walking back his stated support, and expressed confidence that TxDOT's numbers would only affirm the contention that the toll road is the way to go, which seemed a sensible enough conclusion once the agency called BS on its own numbers.

No surprise, then, to learn that Mayor Mike's predictions were right. He sent a 23-page memo to the City Council this morning that you can read in full below, but the takeaway can be found on page two:

In short, my answer to the question that has been raised "Is Pegasus 'better' in the short term than the (Trinity) Parkway?" is simply, no.

We already believe the levees are safe and will support a Parkway. We are moving quickly on trails, lakes and other amenities. We now are sure that the Parkway is the most cost efficient option as well. Now that TX DOT has been tremendously clear on the capacity issue I believe it is obvious what must be done. We must move in hast to build our Trinity Parkway.

According to the attached memo from TxDOT district engineer Bill Hale, the toll road will provide capacity for 132,000 additional vehicles per day, Pegasus only 93,300. The toll road would cost $1.47 billion, or $167 million per mile, while Pegasus would cost $1.2 billion, or $184 million per mile. Plus, the Trinity Parkway "has a significant funding source (toll revenue) to help support the project" (though we still don't know how it will be paid for on the front end).

Schutze is locked in his office crying, but we'll coax him out very shortly and ask him to hose you down with some truth. Until then, enjoy:

Txdot Memo


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RUSKNATIVE
RUSKNATIVE

better have a LOT of "breakdown lanes" for all the electric vehicles  that run out of power stalled in traffic.....how will the tollroad assistance carry a can of 6000 watts of electricity out to an electric car anyway?

Jared Heath
Jared Heath

I'm calling BS on the states numbers.  Capacity on the new toll-road != usage. The real usage is all that matters, and it won't even get to half that usage, while the alternative will probably reach 99.99%

Michael Lowe
Michael Lowe

Hey the Trinity Toll Road goes hand in hand with the great gas drilling plan for the city. Dallas is clueless. It will be an urban cesspool here within ten (10) years if the Toll Road & gas plans move forward. There will be no quality of life here. Personally, I'm getting the FRACK out of this area to back up North where we have clean rivers, lakes, & forests along with sustainable common sense development. History repeats itself. The entire Sun Belt is doomed economically. Texas has enjoyed some great economic success but the destruction of its environment will manifest itself very soon. Enjoy it now before it's gone. Google the story of the Salton Sea in California. Enjoy the concrete & smelly water for me. I'll sure with the fajitas though.

AG
AG

But maybe it will be  serene and pretty!!   What with all the cement, roaring trucks and cars, wind generators and such.  By the time the city gets any of those  mentioned "amenities" actually completed, I'll be dead of old age.  I'll never get to enjoy the smell of exhaust as I lounge down by the banks of the drainage ditch we loving call the Trinity River.  Damn you, City Hall.  

AG
AG

Oh sure.  Those trails and lakes are going to be beautiful when shadowed by an ugly ass super tollway monster above your head.   One more move to "Make Dallas Ugly"...which is the motto of our city government. 

Daily Reader
Daily Reader

 And how about when there's a big multi car, semi-crash, somebody's car is going to come flying off of that road.  Look out beloooowwwww

Chiggers!
Chiggers!

That's why nobody comes here, anymore. It's too crowded.

Urbandweller203
Urbandweller203

Sounds like a pay-back project that need to get started...right now!

Harvey
Harvey

I think it's time to get rid of that green tree sitting in the middle of the City of Dallas logo.  They ain't earnin' it.

Don Abbott
Don Abbott

Mayor Jobba The Pizza Hut just lost the Senate seat he'll run for after he finishes his JV stint with Detroit au Sud. Tom Leppert Colony is, of course, a natural to be his presumptive drinking buddy as they lament being persona non grata with the Citizens' Council.

Cliffhanger
Cliffhanger

You know what this town really needs to be world-class? That's right. A dirigible mooring at the top of the Bank of America tower. It's the future, baby.

Anon
Anon

people living in Manhattan would argue that there are people sitting in ludicrous amounts of traffic to drive their crap home from Wal Mart. I'm not sure why their consumption choices are any more ridiculous than yours.

RUSKNATIVE
RUSKNATIVE

 and pay $3500 per month for a fifth story WALKUP apartment in Manhattan where you take your dog on a leash with a pooper scooper and baggies to do his business after he was locked up all day.  When NYC citizens have a CLUE about REAL LIFE, then someone MIGHT care about their opinions.

Dbaete
Dbaete

typical Dallas Mayors bending -over and cashing in for there future wrong policies. 

2texans
2texans

What happened to his 'smackdown' with Griggs, Hunt and Greyson? I thought that he was going to sit down and compare matrix numbers?

Ryan Paige
Ryan Paige

The Dallas Morning News story is yet another example of how biased the DMN is toward the road. They play up the capacity of the road without noting once within the story that the Toll Road isn't expected to run at capacity while the Project Pegasus improvements are. The Trinity Toll Road would still move more cars, but that lack of nearly 10,000 cars per day by 2030 changes the financial equation before we even get into anything else. The Dallas Morning News story also doesn't note that its own newspaper has been reporting that the Trinity Toll Road would only move between 90,000 and 100,000 cars per day (unlike the 114,100 in the current estimate). The size of the road didn't change, but for some reason, the number of cars traveling on the road somehow changed. The DMN didn't bother to ask why the estimate had been shifted upward. It's an incredibly simplistic analysis anyway (capacity or even expected usage doesn't give us the whole picture on how well those cars are moved) and even then they're having to goose the numbers to make the Trinity Toll Road the more attractive option.

breathingsuspect
breathingsuspect

The 'burbs is why the DFW area has any attraction at all. Prices start going up due to densification.....people start going, bye bye. Nobody wants to live in a sweltering hellhole on top of others. You've gotta have some ball breathing room down here in the Dirty D. It's a fact, Jack! Get used to it or move to Manhattan(lots of suckers there paying ludicrous rent for the urban experience!).

Branden Helms
Branden Helms

Your reasoning doesn't make sense. Prices start going up due to densification so people move out. Which is? If people are moving out, it by definition can't get denser, which, according to you, means prices aren't going up, which means they aren't moving out which means prices are going up which means...

breathingsuspect
breathingsuspect

Hey, dumdum....people aren't moving out. They aren't moving in, in the first place. Good  highway systems are the cause for this....Good highway systems lessen the effects of densification. Ergo, rents stay low. Good highway systems lessen the effects of densification. Ergo, rents stay low. Good highway systems go, bye bye.....Dallas, starts to build up.....rents due to lesser availability of developable land, due to poor highway grid(land starts densifying, too much), start to rise too high.....people go, bye bye Dallas.....Hello, OKC!

ThatGuy
ThatGuy

Then let the burbs pay for the toll road and let the road go through the burbs.

Thanks 4 All Things
Thanks 4 All Things

Dear Dallas Mayor, Thank You, Thank you for being a DICK. Thank You for being WHITE. Thank You for finding a Use Less Use of MY MONEY, to fix a problem so a MONEY MAKING MACHINE can make MORE FUCKING MONEY. I pay taxes, I own a business that pays taxes, Property and Sales, so just THANKS THANKS MY ASSHOLE MAYOR. From PISSED OFF TAXPAYER\VOTER.

RUSKNATIVE
RUSKNATIVE

 RACIST A BIT AREN'T YOU.  YOU LITTLE BEER BAR BUSINESS DOESN'T COUNT TURKEY.

ThatGuy
ThatGuy

"TxDot collaborated with NTTA and NTCOG"..... Well, gee. That sounds unbiased to me.  Dallas loses a great park and gains a few tons of pollution in the name of "regionalism".  F the burbs.  

Marvin
Marvin

Last week the mayor tweeted: One qt of motor oil washed down storm drains can pollute up to 250K gallons of water. We need this water for drinking. #GreenDallas How many quarts of oil would be washed off the tollway, directly into the trinity, every time it rains.

Downtown Resident
Downtown Resident

I hope the current asshole mayor has as much luck getting this failure of a project off the ground as the last asshole mayor Dallas had.

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