Eccie vs. EccieLeaks: A Texas-Based Escort Message Board and its Odd Legal Odyssey

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Yesterday we wrote about Eccie.net, the apparently-local escort-review site that's suing an anonymous blogger for libel. The blogger goes by the name of Ty Steel and has a whole host of accusations against Eccie: that its reviews are biased, that it's run by "pimps," that it participates in "human trafficking" -- pretty much exactly the sort of language that lands you head-spinningly quickly in court.

Before the post went up, we perused a few of the hundreds of posts by Steel on another website, EccieLeaks, that's dedicated to criticizing Eccie. The blogger and a crew of friends have a simmering, long-standing series of gripes against the site, which they've spilled much digital ink laying out in detail.

"He's been writing a lot of things online for a long time," says Kenton Hutcherson, the lawyer for KCN Infosys, the company that runs Eccie. His firm, Hutcherson Law, does a lot of Internet defamation cases.

KCN is currently trying to find out who Steel is, in order to better sue him (everyone involved seems certain that the blogger is in fact a man). They've already subpoenaed Google, which own Blogger, the site Steel uses for his anti-Eccie blog. They want information about Steel's IP address, Hutcherson says. "We have to go through the discovery process, but I'm 99 percent sure we'll get it."

But the original post also brought a flood of angry emails from another anonymous writer -- this one going by the name of a popular porn actor -- who chided us for "swallowing Steel's story hook, line and sinker." The writer, who declined to give any information about his connection to the story, wanted us to know that Steel runs a competing prostitute website, which is the basis for his vendetta against Eccie.

And indeed, Steel does seem to have at least a couple of failed prostitute review board-type sites under his belt (pun and/or innuendo not intended), including one that he tried to sell to other EccieLeaks participants a little over a year ago.

"I have a hooker review site I'd like to sell," he wrote. "No, I'm not referring to the fair play site. Unfortunately or fortunately, I don't know which, I was scammed out of that site late last year by a scumbag. However, I did create a clone of the original site, except that I added additional features and an improved look. I no longer have in any interest in owning or managing a hooker review site due to increased job responsibilities."

"We do know a few things about him," Hutcherson, Eccie's lawyer, says. "My understanding is he may have tried to launch a competing website a long time ago, but it wasn't successful." That included a site called Fair Play Reviews, he says. "We don't think he's running a competing website now. But we don't know who he is yet."

In another thread on EccieLeaks, Steel talks about wanting to "shame" the owners of Eccie. "I think that if they can be shamed through the media, especially by the DFW media, that will do the trick," he writes. "Usually the best way to try a case is not in a courtroom, but in the court of public opinion." He promised a "major story" on Eccie soon.

Another poster encouraged him to also write letters to the editor and post multiple comments on every story about the lawsuit, including personal information about the people that Steel claims run Eccie. "If you happen to have any spouse information or their children's full names, be sure to include that also because kids tend to Google each other all the time," that poster wrote. "Phone numbers? Include them!"

"A story like this could grab the front page of the Observer," another poster added. "Be sure to mention that the site promotes underage prostitution, tie in with the BackPage/Craigslist hooker witchhunt ... and add in human trafficking, and you are guaranteed a story." (Editor's note: Throw in a JWP connection and we might rename the paper in your honor.)

Hutcherson says his clients aren't involved in running an escort service.

"The answer to that is no," he says. "Emphatically no. Ty Steel has said that my clients are affiliated with certain spas and those are false statements. That is not true. They do own and operate this review site. They provide a forum where people can express their free speech and talk about these things, but that's all they do. They don't run any escort business, spa, massage parlor, anything like that. Their involvement is strictly limited to operating this website."

Hutcherson says his clients are also concerned about EccieLeaks. "We don't know who's behind it. But on Eccie, which is my client's site, they have content available to the public and what they would call premium content. You have to pay money for that. EccieLeaks have copied 80,000 pages from Eccie.net and posted that. Ty Steel says he has nothing to do with that. There's no way to verify that. Our suspicion is that it's somebody else and Ty Steel is limited to what he's posting on Blogger. He has also made a lot of posts on EccieLeaks."

He added that there are "some things in the works" with respect to EccieLeaks. Like trying to take the site down?

"To a certain extent," Hutcherson says. "It's copied a substantial portion of the website. There are issues related to terms of use."

In the same thread on EccieLeaks where Steel discusses the case and media coverage of it, he calls one of the alleged owners of Eccie his "puppet," adding: "I'm the one pulling your strings, and I continue to make you dance around for me like the puppet that you are." Later, he promises that, "If for some reason this court case does go into full swing, I promise that all will be revealed."

Indeed. A hearing is set for July 11 to consider KCN's motion to compel Google to turn over Steel's IP address information. "I'm very confident the court's going to rule in our favor," Hutcherson says. "Once that's done, Google will probably turn the info over right away."

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sydneymaleescortau
sydneymaleescortau

If the plane had an escort then a scenario of it landing at Diego Garcia would seem. Freescale attracted attention because it is a Texas-based ...thanks

RPaggio
RPaggio

Guess a site like Rub Maps is the best way to go then. If you noticed, they try to say their reviews are fiction more so than reality and this definitely shows. 

pet4
pet4

Eccie and theeroticreview.com should be out of the business... hobbyst taking advantage on writting bad reviews on providers....Escorts under pressure as  if they no do what they want, even be short on what they agreeded, they treat you on writting bad reviews and damaging those escorts business....

pet4
pet4

Eccie and theeroticreview.com should be out of the business... hobbyst taking advantage on writting bad reviews on providers....Escorts under pressure as  if they no do what they want, even be short on what they agreeded, they treat you on writting bad reviews and damaging those escorts business....

pet4
pet4

Eccie and theeroticreview.com should be out of the business... hobbyst taking advantage on writting bad reviews on providers....Escorts under pressure as  if they no do what they want, even be short on what they agreeded, they treat you on writting bad reviews and damaging those escorts business....

escortseweb
escortseweb


I like this concept. I visited your blog for the first time and just been your fan. Keep posting as I am gonna come to read it everyday.

enkil1of4
enkil1of4

So Anna, 

 

No follow up story to this article?I mean, the attorney for KCN seemed damn certain he was going to prevail and his chest pounding now seems pretty hilarious since he filed the motion begging the court to dismiss this total FUBAR.

 

I wonder if his clients finally came clean as to who they were (in the hobby) and  the ramifications of going after some blogger stating his own opinions was worth all this publicity and the additional data collecting by the multi-county VICE units.

 

When are the next sweeps?

 

Maybe we'll have a nice news story by then on broadcast TV.

 

 

Guest
Guest

Quote: " To a certain extent," Hutcherson says. "It's copied a substantial portion of the website. There are issues related to terms of use."" Mr. Hutcherson.  I'd like to direct your attention to a well known site http://archive.org/web/web.php .  Go type in almost any site, including ECCIE, and you'll find that like any other web crawler, archive.org copies off a HUGE number of pages for a huge number of sites. Ever see what Google cache returns?  Good luck telling archive.org or Google to stop crawling the site.  ECCIE has codes built into their website that are very specific for Google spiders to use. Now onto today's topic. Anna, do you even bother to read aloud what you've written or fact check things? Quote: "Indeed. A hearing is set for July 11 to consider KCN's motion to compel Google to turn over Steel's IP address information. "I'm very confident the court's going to rule in our favor," Hutcherson says. "Once that's done, Google will probably turn the info over right away." BUZZZZ!!  Wrong answer. Today's "hearing" is to rule on Ty Steel's motion to dismiss.  Nothing more, nothing less. Even if the Judge denies his motion, ECCIE's dumbass lawyer will still need to out lawyer the Google lawyers.   And given how dumb the ECCIE lawyer is by filing false statements with the court combined with it being in the wrong venue, I don't see it going well for Hutcherson. 

qwe76101
qwe76101

This is a fight over nothing.  ECCIE is a worthless site distributing flattering lies about old, fat, ugly whores who aren't worth the effort it takes to pick up the phone.  The reviews are about as useful as long term stock recommendations on a penny stock board.

Deuce Bigalow
Deuce Bigalow

 I can't see any logic for the conclusions that you are drawing. Are you sure that you are not just one of Ty Steel's deranged leakers? In the posts about "Logan", I noticed two things: 1) He gets banned a lot and many posters think his posts are pure fiction. 2) The universal reaction to any hint of "pimping" or drug usage is to condemn it and ostracize any participant who is supposedly involved. This supports a conclusion completely different than the one you state.

Don TVI
Don TVI

 LOL! "On the radar of the Texas Attorney General" along with Backpage and Facebook and business cards, right? Ty, you are going to have to do a better job than this. That report never, ever says that Eccie is involved in trafficking of any kind. It talks about places that traffickers might communicate and advertise - on the same page, "social network sites" is listed next to Eccie. That's Facebook, numbskull! Do think we need to "expose the underbelly" of Facebook? How about Flyers? Should I have the local police arrest the guys who put those flyers on my door for "human trafficking"? Oooohhh, I always knew there was something suspicious about people handing out business cards! I will start snapping pics of any man and women who do that and post them on eccileaks where you and your buddies like to harass people. ROTFLMAO! Everything you post is 100% wrong in every way. It's time to call in the black helicopters to take you away.

Ty Steel fan
Ty Steel fan

Ty's blog is more of a 20/20 news expose that is attempting to expose the underbelly of a site that is already on the radar of the Texas Attorney General due to the allegations of their facilitation of human trafficking.  You can't expect everything he has posted to be 100% accurate but if only 60% is, then that should scare the people of Dallas into calling up their city council representatives and demanding the police ("po-po" in pimp slang) get that multi-county anti-trafficking task force involved in shutting that place down. Keep in mind that ECCIE is not just assisting in the trafficking of minors, but also of those women who work for the pimps that get them addicted to drugs to control them or the ones who beat them if they aren't bringing in the cash.  "Logan" writes entertaining stories of running into the mid range highly reviewed and praised prostitutes who are forced by their addiction or by their pimps or both to work all night sometimes in horrible areas of town.   Just search his reviews to see some of the horror stories.  

damien
damien

My bad, that's Josh (last name withheld).  And Mark (last name withheld).  And (shall I continue?).

damien
damien

Wait, aren't you one of Lisa's clients Jay? :>

Lazarus Long
Lazarus Long

 Seriously, Bolt, your parties are the best.

Lazarus Long
Lazarus Long

 They wouldn't be so hard if he wasn't a blatant liar. He had at least three website like the one he so strongly criticizes now: eroticactionguide.com secretsojourn.com fairplayreviews.com and a blog called aspdwatch.blog.com that illegally copied reviews from aspd.net before it went under. In his current blog, he had eroticactionguide.com as the first recommended website at the bottom of the blog while conveniently forgetting to tell the reader that it belonged to him. He changed it to johnactionguide.com just before contacting Anna Merlan. It may be true that people laugh at him and mock him for being "slow", but he is lot sharper than others give him credit for. It was former members of horndogs.info that started eccieleaks.com, and that is the second site that he listed. Birds of a feather...

Bryan Crumpton
Bryan Crumpton

 This second article is somewhat more responsible, but it leaves out important details. Ty Steel started at least 3 websites very similar to the one he is complaining about: secretsojourn.com eroticactionguide.com fairplayreviews.com and he had another blog (aspdwatch.blog.com - not sure of the exact address). His current blog was written in May 2010 and there is a list of suggested "escort review boards" at the end of the blog. The first one listed was his own website - eroticactionguide.com. He changed the name to "johnactionguide.com" just before he conned Anna Merlan into doing the story. The second website listed at the bottom of his blog is horndogs.info, one of the few websites that he has not been banned from. His favorite website now - eccieleaks.com - was started by former "horndogs" members who also become jealous of Eccie's success like Ty did.

Guest
Guest

 I'm sure the folks in DO Advertising enjoy screaming at the writers about this.

Jay
Jay

Who cares? Being a member for over 3 years, I didn't go there to make appointments with escorts, I could just read about the pitiful world the providers and hobbyists both live. It is their entire world, families are shattered, drugs are rampant, self esteem goes to s_ _ t, these hobbyists are the sickest people in this world as it is their entire life, std's, pimps and etc. We should all thank our lucky stars that we aren't part of this world. He says-she says....blah blah blah blah. This does not even qualify as news, it's just another addiction that they live through.....or don't.

Jack
Jack

Oh, that's nothing. Ty Steel has big problems. This is from a usenet group following the Moody Blues: " Hi John: Ty does not work for Patrick. Sadly, Ty has some mentalhealth issues. Patrick is aware of the problem, it's been going on foryears. However, Patrick feels that taking action against him, legal orwhatever, would just make Ty's issues worse. So we just put up withit.Sorry he's intruding on your board. -B Kelleher "http://www.musik-news.org/post/53262/go_away_tysteel...patrick_doesnt_like_you.html 

InterestedObserver
InterestedObserver

@enkil1of4  "No follow up story to this article..."

I'll give a follow up. It's nothing like the smear you are trying to spread. Ty Steel was laughed at of court for his outrageous slander. Hutcherson dismissed the suit because Robert (Ty Steel) took down his blog of lies, which is what the plaintiffs wanted all along.

Which leaker are you - Joe Cox of Vista, CA? or Larry Riel of Dallas? or Chris Adamec of Bedford? or Tim Anderson of Houston? or Bryan Crumpton of Dallas? Here are some links that show what's happening in the aftermath -

truthaboutleaks.blogspot.com  or eccieleaksleaks.com

@enkil1of4 or http://www.eccieleaksleaks.com

JohnInATX
JohnInATX

Not entirely true. Not all of the reviews on ECCIE are dishonest flattery of low class providers. Some of the reviews are insulting lies about attractive, slim, young providers and high class courtesans.  

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