Mike Rawlings Pledged Support for the Trinity Toll Road Today. But You Already Knew That.

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Mike Rawlings is officially one of those people.
All right, I missed on one thing this morning in my predictive imaginary report on Mayor Rawlings' Toll Road press conference at City Hall. I predicted that former city councilman Dave Neumann would bound around the room like a kangaroo shouting "Pickles and applesauce." That did not happen. I think somebody tipped him.

Otherwise, I believe I will have to step up and claim 100 percent predictive accuracy for this thing, proving once and for all that there is no real need for me to get out of bed anymore ever, and the paper would be wise to just send somebody over to the house to fan me and drop grapes into my mouth at my leisure.

I said the mayor would talk about the future. He said, "If we are thoughtful, diligent and focused on our future, we will see a great plan unfold."

I said he would say there are a lot of smart people on all sides of the issue. He said, "There are many smart people with differing opinions of this multi-sided issue."

I said he would say he had talked to a lot of experts. He said, "I've listened to experts, citizens, regionalists, urbanites -- young and old."

I said he would say the city is racially divided and a new toll road would be just the ticket for that. He said, "We must be one city rather than two. We've had North Dallas, and we've had the southern sector. Until we think and act as one city, we will not maximize our potential. The Trinity River Corridor Project and the decisions we make about it must unify all parts of the city from Frankford Road in the north all the way to UNT-Dallas' University Hills Blvd. in the south."

I said he would say the city is under attack by gridlock. He said, "As much as I love Austin, I don't want to be that type of city with the major traffic gridlock they experience every day just because they didn't come to terms with the problems they faced."

I said he would invoke Laura Miller's "Balanced Vision Plan" as proof you can build a super highway through the middle of a park and nobody will notice. He said, "As I mentioned earlier, this is a multi-step process and while the Balanced Vision Plan will not be complete in the next three or four years, I am committed to have a lake and trails that access the lake from the Oak Cliff side of the Trinity corridor by 2015."

I said he would say the whole thing can be paid for with magical money that we don't have but that it just comes down out of the sky or something so forget about the money.
He said, "This project will be funded primarily from non-city funding sources: users of the road as well as state and federal transportation dollars. ... How this project is funded is still in the works but Dallas has never been held back from a vision if we really set our mind to it."

I rest my case. I claim 100 percent accuracy of prediction. I should tell fortunes for a living.


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Bbetzen
Bbetzen

More details and photos from Trinity Tollway election history are at http://dallasredistricting2011... along with details about this Tuesdays meeting by the NTTA for input on the Trinity River Toll Road plans at the Dallas Convention Center starting at 5 PM with testimony starting at 7 PM.

Bbetzen
Bbetzen

A simple one sentence, "I do not support the creation of a Trinity River Floodway Toll Road in Dallas" petition has been created. Please circulate it to anyone you know who may support the cause. It is online at http://www.ipetitions.com/peti....

mynameisURL
mynameisURL

Mayorin' seems to be agreeing with Mike. He's starting to look a little more jowly, lately. Donchathink?

Mister_Mean
Mister_Mean

The city has placed it’s bets on the troll road at the expense of the Pegasus Project.    They should have focused on Pegasus but they in their lack of wisdom (or intelligence) have a hard on for suspension bridges and toll roads in flood planes.  It seems to Mister Mean that this is some sort of scam to get tax payer monies for the benefit of???????? The city council and staff are responsible and should be held accountable.   Vote no on the bond election in 2012-The city-they can’t control themselves.

Larry
Larry

Thanks to all the dumbass voters who defeated the kill-the-road referendum in 2007! 

engmofo
engmofo

Between this & paving over 1/2 of Winfrey Point (including brand new Little League courts),we sure are World Klass..........

Lemuskin
Lemuskin

I hate to say it, but at this point I don't even want the lakes and trails. I find the whole issue with the toll road insulting. Clearly the road is way more important to the city and all the other stuff was just sprinkled on top to get the project going. The future vision of Dallas has always been to keep building and that is what we keep doing.

richard schumacher
richard schumacher

Will we retain our righteous indignation until the next bond election?  How will the City Fathers and Mothers package this thing next time?

Bbetzen
Bbetzen

Are there enough Dallas citizens wanting to stop this destruction of any potential for a world class Dallas Trinity River Park that we can start a petition process for another Dallas vote on the toll road? This time we must make it clear that a "No" vote is a vote against the toll road, and not a vote to pave the river, like the confusing 2007 election.  In that strange election those supporting the floodway toll road somehow were able to get away with claiming "Save the Trinity" as their motto.  Here are the signs they used, one also corrected to say "Pave the Trinity:" http://www.studentmotivation.o...

Are enough people willing to do the work needed to bring this back to a clear and decisive vote, or will apathy rule and millions of more dollars be wasted anually before Mother Nature makes the decision for us.

Don Abbott
Don Abbott

Hopefully, the Mayan calendar will trump the Citizens' Council.

cp
cp

"...Dallas has never been held back from a vision..."Hum. I understand that the shipping industry has helped our economy, since so many barges sail up and down the Trinity...

Toldyaso
Toldyaso

I get the impression the City always needs that goal to attain...like navigating the river to Cuba, or hosting the Olympics.... or being world class.  It'll never attain any of them, but it sure is fun dreaming about it while you're wiping the dirty air grime off your whale bone on the Trinity.

Bbetzen
Bbetzen

"We must be one city rather than two. We've had north Dallas, and we've had the southern sector. Until we think and act as one city, we will not maximize our potential. The Trinity River Corridor Project and the decisions we make about it must unify all parts of the city from Frankford Road in the north all the way to UNT-Dallas's University Hills Blvd in the south."

These statements by the Mayor about this floodway toll road unifying Dallas are not based in reality. The opposite is true.  Huge high way projects divide neighborhoods.  The North Dallas Tollway divided Little Mexico,  I-45 divided South Dallas.  The South Dallas residents even had to fight to get an exit and entry ramp installed for their own use of I-45.  The same things are happening with this toll road.   It is NOT for those of us living in Dallas. 60% of the users are people outside of Dallas, not stopping in Dallas, and only leaving their noise and fumes.

This road will destroy any potential for a world class Trinity River Park.  Today was a dark day in Dallas History.

Dalguy
Dalguy

"A lake and trails that access the lake from the Oak Cliff side of the Trinity," typical Dallas mentality:  We don't need no stinkin' river, give us a toll road and let them have the bottoms.

Its So Sad
Its So Sad

The money/power brokers got a "signature bridge" to nowhere built. Who's to say they can't build an even bigger tollroad in/under/around/through the Trinity River?IT'S NOT THEIR MONEY ANYWAY!

Is there enough room UNDER the new bridge for this tollroad?

And then saying that the parks will still be built WITH the tollroad... REALLY?

This project just gets dumber & dumber with every supportive press conference!

And Schutze, you really should have stayed in bed. Your predictive story is MUCH better than the actual one, and you didn't get mugged!

trannyntraining
trannyntraining

I wouldn't be surprised if they(Mayor, Citizens Council, the Dallas growers?, and their ilk) start a 'Facebook' page entitled 'Save the Trinity Parkway Fund'. 

Tom L
Tom L

Yeah, not in the least bit surprising. Disappointing, but not surprising. Someone's big fat political butt is pushing this and will continue to push this and everyone in City Hall will continue to line up to support it.

Mind you, nothing will ever get done because the project is, after all, just about the stupidest thing imaginable and quite possible physically impossible. But for a politician that makes it the BEST KIND of project to support. You can get out and talk big about the thing, big political backer is happy and loosens their money bowels, project never happens. Everybody wins!

Cujo
Cujo

PH33R TEH PH33RS0M3 PSYCHIC POWERZ OF TEH SCHUTZE!

Mr. Schutze, can you predict when I get my first ride on the solar powered water taxi?

trannyntraining
trannyntraining

I thought it was pretty pathetic when he said, "if you don't want the city to grow, i'm probably not the man you want as mayor", or something to that effect. Playing the whole....you're either with us or you're against us, card. Poorly played, sir. Poorly played.

MattL1
MattL1

"There are many smart people with differing opinions of this multi-sided issue."Yes, there are some smart people who think this is a bad idea, and there are other smart people who think it's a fantastically stupid idea. 

Darrd2010
Darrd2010

Soooooooo, I'm really glad that you did not imply that the only reason Mike endorsed this boondoggle is because as some say....he's just a mouthpiece for the Dallas Citizens Council and they all know it will never get built but they all do this endorsement show anyway since most of them have bought land/property in the vicinity of the toll road/trinity corridor as speculators and are hoping to make a killing down the road just like in West Dallas.

Phew! I'm really glad that you did not go there.

Guest
Guest

It strikes me as very sad that the "grand vision" of our city is just another road.

Mountain Creek
Mountain Creek

I'm not going to make a comment about Neumann and pickles.I'm not going to make a comment about Neumann and pickles. I'm not going to make a comment about Neumann and pickles. I'm not going to make a comment about Neumann and pickles. I'm not going to make a comment about Neumann and pickles. 

Darment
Darment

"Vision" is a word that should be taken out of OLD Mike's vocabulary... A visionary he is not.

Branden Helms
Branden Helms

I bet he kept this under the rug during the election because he knew it would give Kunkle a better chance.

Downtown Resident
Downtown Resident

Don't forget that the Dallas Morning News suppressed vital facts about funding prior to the 2007 election. They deserve blame too.

Paul
Paul

 That's "wurld" you maroon ...

Nunya Bidness
Nunya Bidness

*typed with extreme sarcasm...

But we already have so much. Trinity River Overlook Park, which will eventually be Trinity River Construction Crane Overlook. And there's that AWESOME Standing Wave kayaking debacle they put in... Oh wait...  http://www.dallasobserver.com/...

Bbetzen
Bbetzen

Lemiskin, I used to have a negative feeling about the Trinity before I first canoed it about 20 years ago. It is getting cleaner, but is still a very dirty river due to the dominance of commercial interests over environmental interests in Dallas. But things are slowly changing as is shown on this blog.  More people every day come forward to want a clean city as the priority. The old view of a town as the crossroads of many paved highways is slowly dying, and already dead in many urban areas. They no longer want their downtowns defiled by traffic just driving through town. Dallas is slowly moving that direction. We have reached the tipping point!    and a world class Trinity River Park is a certainty if we can kill the floodway toll road idea.  Another toll road election, where the choices are clear and obvious, would end the toll road idea without more millions invested, or the intervention of Mother Nature.

Mister_Mean
Mister_Mean

No to the next bond election-the city can't (or won't) spend it's tax monies responsibly-probably any money will go towards this nonsense.

Marc
Marc

I strongly opposed the toll road in the referendum a few years ago and I still oppose it today. In a public meeting I called Mayor LIEppert and my Councilman Ron Natinsky liars for deceiving the people about the toll road. They claimed that the "500 year flood" terminology meant that we would only have a flood of that magnatude once every 500 years (it actually means a 1-in-500 chance of a flood of that magnatude EVERY year), and that Dallas had just had such a flood, so we would not have another for 500 more years. In fact, we had three such floods in a 5 year period.

The ballot wording was written to confuse voters, and it did. The referendum passed by a VERY narrow margin. Held today, that same referendum would be soundly defeated. I think it is time for a new vote, and this time we need to stick it to the Dallas Citizens Council and the elite "leaders" who lead us into spending OUR money for THEIR personal benefit.

Let's get this party started!

Mister_Mean
Mister_Mean

If I recall the city attorneys were responsible for phrasing the last vote so yes meant no and vice versa.    The city and their betters will not take no for an answer.   It is a shame that there is not some way to make those who are pushing this to be legally responsible for any problems and issues that any common sense person can see coming.

Nunya Bidness
Nunya Bidness

LOL cp... I was reading a book last night that went into detail about the fiasco in the late 1800's when they kept trying to build barges in Dallas to put on the Trinity. Then they sank... the first time out... and they tried again... and it sank. 

cp
cp

I think it was 175 that was the final nail for South Dallas. They're STILL trying to recover from that one. 

Vlasic
Vlasic

If we can strap Museum Tower on those solar power water taxis, we can anchor a casino in that thar sewer trap and open us a casino!  All that reflective glass can blind all the tollsters coming in from the north.

Guest
Guest

 If we can't afford to pay the upkeep on the city we have, maybe we shouldn't be growing.

rc
rc

 giggle giggle you said pickle

Matthew Gunter
Matthew Gunter

Kunkle never had a chance. With North Dallas votes and money for South Dallas preachers, that left East Dallas, the only logical part of the city, as the only place he could win, and we don't have the votes to compete with the North AND South.

Darrd2010
Darrd2010

 Bill, you may or may not know that the Dallas Gas Drilling Task Force has made recommendations to allow shale gas drilling in the Trinity River Floodplain. Now, if after the City Attorney allows this to move forward to the council in two weeks, it will be interesting to see how they vote. Both Margaret Keliher and Joan Walne voted to allow drilling since 'nothing else goes there'(paraphrase) which was pretty shocking given Joanie's current position as Park Board President. Kelher too since everyone thinks that she has this great mind for making sound decisions based on facts.

A group of us plan on revealing a map soon that was created by City Hall showing exactly where potential drilling could occur in the Trinity River Floodplain. So it will be interesting to see, you puts it out first....residents who care about the environment, or Dallas City Hall.

lorlee
lorlee

1800's - --- They were still trying in 1970 -- why do you think all those bridges south of town are so high.  There was a vote in about 70 for 9 counties that finally voted it down.  KERA has a great documentary about this.

trannyntraining
trannyntraining

We saw this already on the national stage, with the banks/Wall St., and the "Too Big to Fail" crap the Washington politicians were spewing. Here in Dallas the politicians are saying the same crap...."Dallas is Too Big to Fail"...."so open up your wallets and don't forget the change, in between, the couch cushions!"

cp
cp

Please see Downtownworker's comment above. 

Branden Helms
Branden Helms

I wouldn't be so sure. There are a lot of people all over the city who actually liked both choices. By keeping mum, he kept potentially 2-5% of the vote that may have shifted.

Marc
Marc

Nuclear reactor, hell! Let's build a waste dump for all that toxic nuclear waste that is destined for West Texas. Why should counties with almost no population get all the money that will come from it? We could harness and use the heat from the dump site to heat downtown buildings in winter saving us hundreds of millions in electricity costs.

Mister_Mean
Mister_Mean

Perhaps the storage of nuclear waste too!

Cliffhanger
Cliffhanger

So we're going to frack...the floodplain...where we're building the highway...next to the levies.

Why don't we just go ahead and build a nuclear reactor there, too?

Nunya Bidness
Nunya Bidness

Wow lorlee, I had no idea. I would love to see the documentary. 

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