In the Katy Trail Robberies, Police Reports Paint Portrait of Bumbling, Brazen Criminals

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We know a lot more about the string of recent armed robberies at the Katy Trail since the Dallas Police Department initially released some details on the incidents yesterday. We know, for example, that police think all were committed by a pair of black men in their 20s who were driving a silver, four-door sedan and armed with semi-automatic handguns. We also know that the Katy Trail muggings are connected with 11 others reported around Uptown since May 4.

The specifics on those incidents were revealed when police passed along a digital stack of incident reports late yesterday afternoon, detailing some pretty harrowing confrontations.

In one of the cases, a 34-year-old man was on the Katy Trail near Blackburn when the suspects sprinted to him, pointed a gun to his head and demanded everything he had. In another incident, the attackers demanded money from a 42-year-old man who was walking to his car in the 5200 block of Milam Street. When he tried to run to his car, he was pushed down, punched and kicked.

All told, the thieves made off with $7,291 in cell phones, purses, cash, etc. taken from the victims, according to the reports, which is a pretty lucrative take for a little more than a week's work.

But the reports also tell us that the thieves weren't exactly Danny Ocean. One 26-year-old woman fought them off when they tried to yank off her gold necklace as she walked in the 4500 block of McKinney Avenue. More tellingly, police recovered a gun, complete with fingerprints, at the scene of a May 5 attack at 3200 Carlisle Place. They were also apparently unaware that cell phones can be tracked; one victim, a 25-year-old man jumped in the 3700 block of Travis Street, pinpointed his iPhone's location at 3 a.m. Monday morning to somewhere between 4001 and 4127 Camp Wisdom Road.

Sr. Cprl. Kevin Janse, a DPD spokesman, said police aren't 100 percent certain that the gun recovered is connected to the Katy Trail robberies, since it occurred several blocks away. No additional information was included in the report on how helpful the iPhone's location has proved to be.

As fear-inducing as these attacks have been, they don't exactly shake my faith in the safety of the Katy Trail, given that all appear to have been carried out by two stupid and greedy young men in search of a quick buck. Besides, based on the apparent lapses of the robbers, not to mention the mountain of publicity lighting a fire under police, I doubt they will be at large for long.

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JJ
JJ

Big surprise that the media hasn't told anyone the robbers are black. I might just go out to the katy trail this weekend with my concealed handgun and wear my gold chain. Im up for some excitement and haven't jogged over there in a while!

Crazynutt
Crazynutt

Excitement?  It appears that your BRAIN rather than your body needs jogging.  Your comment "over there" implies that you live elsewhere.  Why in the hell would you intentionally place yourself in possible danger?  Did you ride the small bus to school?

farthard
farthard

i wonder if riding a bike would eliminate you as a target of the robbers? hmm

Rob Lew
Rob Lew

TIME TO OPEN UP A SKITTLE AND TEA STAND ALONG THE TRAIL TO WELCOME THE  ETHNIC ROBBERS TO THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN....BAREFOOT SANDERS SAID WE SHOULD ALL LIVE AND LOVE EACH OTHER AND BE FRIENDS.

Rob Lew
Rob Lew

BUMBLING...IS THAT RACIST HATE TERMINOLOGY SINCE THEY ARE BLACK?

Jflash
Jflash

Has anyone given a description of the theives.  I find it very odd that not one article I have read has described the theives. 

Certainly one of the victims could give a basic description.....something stinks here.

Badii Ryan
Badii Ryan

Dallas police said they have leads. They provided this description of the two suspects:The first suspect is described as a black male, approximately 20 to 30 years old.  He is 5’8 – 6’2 tall and weighs 150-160 pounds.  He has been armed with a blue steel semi-automatic handgun.The second suspect is described as a black male, approximately 20 to 22 years old.  His is 5’8 -5’10 tall and weighs approximately 160 pounds.  He may have a gold tooth and moles near his eyes.  He has been armed with a silver colored semi-automatic handgun.The suspect vehicle is gray/silver 4-door sedan.  The vehicle may be a Chrysler or Chevy Impala.http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2012/...

IBelieveMyOwnLyingEyes
IBelieveMyOwnLyingEyes

It's mighty grand of the media and police to finally deign to provide us with even the briefest description of the suspects, beyond "two men."  

Usually, the media goes to great lengths to omit any descriptive elements of violent-crime suspects that might make a certain group of people feel bad, or outraged.

Ibzane
Ibzane

Well seems to me that the police are the ones dropping the ball on this one if they have'nt increased patrols in the area, or followed through with evidence/clues they have yielded thus far.  I  mean if you're gonna buy stolen property you ass should get woke up at three in the morning to tell the cops where/who you bought that stolen I phone from, and weather or not the fingerprints are related to this string of robberies or not, it was related to the one robbery you were responding to at the time( the one with the fingerprints on it) But like others have said, eventually they will mess up enough (even with the keystone cops on the case) to get caught.  

Badii Ryan
Badii Ryan

Isnt anyone curious about the lack of police response to notify the public of these occurences and/or beef up some sort of patrols over the last week until after the 14th robbery?  Having a capable, responsive, smart police force as part of our societal framework is supposed to enable the rest of us to be able to enjoy society without carrying guns, especially under such vulnerable conditions.  I for one run 3-4 miles 4 times  a week and cant imagine having to run with a gun bouncing around on my waist or pocket... its a proposition that makes me sick to my stomach, especially during a running workout.

Steve
Steve

Were they wearing hoodies?   WOOPS, nope, sorry, that kind of talk isn't allowed!!

Ross Princeton
Ross Princeton

Who would let two unknown black men close enough to mug you anywhere in Dallas?!  Maybe the runners should be a little more aware of their surroundings and not so nieve. 

RTGolden
RTGolden

Regardless of that little logo in your avatar, you're no match for a bullet.  Runners are usually self-absorbed with their run, listening to music, or thinking of anything to push past the wall.  By the time they realized the two men were up to no good, I'm sure it was too late to turn and sprint the other way without getting shot in the back.

As a side note, would you let two unknown white or hispanic men close enough to mug you?

IBelieveMyOwnLyingEyes
IBelieveMyOwnLyingEyes

Approximately 99 of the past 100 violent-crime stories I've read about in Dallas -- muggings, rapes, home invasions, carjackings -- feature perpetrators who were   1. young 2. male    and 3. black or Hispanic.

So any of the following people are free to approach me on the trail:

a) two black or Hispanic women of any ageb) two old black menc) two young white men

I'm sure you will call this RAAAAAAAAAAACIST (and sexist; somehow that never enters the discussion), but I call it "taking obvious and reasonable self-protective measures in view of the empirical reality of who commits violent crime in our society.")

zobzerto
zobzerto

I was going to ask if you were serious, but then I saw that you couldn't spell "naive" and I felt bad. :(

Observist
Observist

Nieve...maybe he's bilingual and telling us not to be so cold and white.

Daniel
Daniel

I've been known to be a little knave myself.

chasd00
chasd00

If you don't want to defend yourself then leave all your valuables at home save for $20. Muggers find the $20 they'll take off, but they may rough you up a bit first.

Rumpunch
Rumpunch

From this article:

"a 25-year-old man jumped in the 3700 block of Travis Street, pinpointed his iPhone's location at 3 a.m. Monday morning to somewhere between 4001 and 4127 Camp Wisdom Road."

So they live in the Red Bird/Duncanville area.  Mayor Rawlings said we should think regionally.

RTGolden
RTGolden

Or that's where the phone ended up.  I'm pretty sure they're selling the goods for whatever they can get for them.

Jim Bob Guthrie
Jim Bob Guthrie

Most murderers are brazen and bumbling as well. An idiot with a gun should scare anybody.  It wouldn't make me stop running the trail.  But I hope they catch them soon.  

Mountain Creek
Mountain Creek

I'm getting a metal chain with 3/4" links.  Gonna chain my iphone to a tree before I run around there anymore.  Also, my screensaver now says "no cool apps".

Rumpunch
Rumpunch

Just be careful the City does not cut down the tree while your running.

Bubbabgood2u
Bubbabgood2u

The police need to look further into this as these guys sound very similar to two black guys that mugged a friend of mine in the Kroger parking lot in Wynnewood Shopping Center last year.  They had also mugged an elderly lady just a few days before.

cp
cp

What, two black guys driving a silver car? In all of Dallas? Holy shit, you may be onto something!

Livable Perspective
Livable Perspective

Saw two runners out on the trail last night with bibs that read "Don't Mug Us" and "We're Poor".

John_McKee
John_McKee

I liked this from one of the WFAA stories:

“He only had one gun,” Curran said. “I live in Highland Park. I walk half a block past the Katy Trail. I don’t really want to carry a pistol, but I guess I’ll start.”

Yes, lets start a shoot out on the Katy Trail over a cellphone, that will help the situation.

brett
brett

I'll put a bullet in a mother fucker that tries to rob me.  He'll only try it once.

Observist
Observist

Internet courage is courageous.

okcorral
okcorral

He'll only try it once on you because you'll probably be dead of a gunshot wound by the time you pull out your gun and shoot it. 

Rumpunch
Rumpunch

Its not really about the phone, its about the threat of violence and the loss of security.  They were the one who decided a life was worth the same as a phone.

Observist
Observist

"They were the one who decided a life was worth the same as a phone"

Not at all - they're counting on you to value your life more than your phone.  Big difference.

richard schumacher
richard schumacher

The threat of violence versus the certainty of violence, you mean. 

The first act of newly incorporated towns in the Old West was to ban handguns.  Perhaps we need to go through another period of open carry and Stand-Your-Ground to remind us why that was.  Tree of liberty and blood of patriots notwithstanding.

pak152
pak152

 so the individual shouldn't try to protect himself?. considering the cost of some smartphones and the information they hold one might want to do everything to prevent it being stolen

Observist
Observist

The medical costs of treating a gunshot wound are more than the cost of the cell phone and the potential cost & hassle of identity theft.  Your health is worth more than your stealable stuff.

Guest
Guest

I'm all for people protecting themselves; however, if a guy's holding a gun on you and trying to rob you, the fact that you have a gun in your pocket or holstered or whatever might well not make a difference (or, worse, could escalate the situation. He decides you're going for a gun, he starts shooting before you can pull your weapon). Sure, you might be able to get your gun out and scare the guy off without any shooting. You might get your gun out while he's shooting at you and missing. Or he might get lucky and put one or two in you before you could even hope to respond. When you're in the situation, you can't predict the outcome, and it's fraught with potential danger.

I can't imagine many families would note to each other at your funeral that they were very glad the robber didn't get your cellphone. Sure, mine would, but others might value the person more than the thing.

JimS
JimS

I don't know, John. The problem is this: what's a soul to do, otherwise?  

JimS
JimS

It's never about the cell phone. It;s about, this son of a bitch is stoned and he might forget and pull the trigger. 

bob
bob

ok, but they were far more likely drunk than stoned. 

Daniel
Daniel

If he were stoned, he would forget to pull the trigger, Jim.

A baked society is a polite -- well, more like inoffensive -- like innocuous like -- like if you're baked you're more likely to just do your own thing? Which I'm not saying what that thing is. But I'm leaning toward ice cream.

JimS
JimS

Probably utterly unfair. Sober as judges, I'm sure. Teatotallers. Church of Christ.

Eric
Eric

 Stoned?  Really?

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