Even in Mesquite, You Can't Bring Guns to an Elementary School

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When I picked up the phone a bit ago, I was expecting a call back from a congressional candidate for whom I'd left a message. Instead, it was a robocall from a pleasant-voiced woman speaking Spanish.

I would have hung up -- I've forgotten what little I learned in high school Spanish -- but I was curious. Best I could make out, the woman was telling me that there was some sort of incident this morning at my child's school, that the police had been called out but that everything is fine.

Having only a vague idea of what the woman had said, my mind raced through the possibilities -- shooting rampage, bomb threat, serial rapist -- before I realized that my son is 3 and is spending the day with Grandpa. The chances that something so catastrophic would happen that it would require a robocall seemed slim. Even slimmer was the chance either would have had the wherewithal to find a Spanish-speaking woman to record a message, then program a computer to send said message to my office.

Googling the number that popped up on my caller ID, I learned the robocall came not from North Dallas, where my parents live, but from Mesquite. More Googling told me that there are, in fact, schools in Mesquite. An entire district, no less, which I called.

I spoke with Elizabeth Fernandez, communications director for the district, who failed to congratulate me on my Spanish-comprehension skills but passed along a written transcript of the phone call, in English:

This morning, while students were outside for play day, an adult happened to see a handgun tucked in the waistband of a man's pants. The man with the gun is a family friend of a student and does not live in Mesquite. The person who saw the gun reported it to a staff member who then notified the principal. Police were called immediately to the scene.While waiting for police to arrive, staff moved students into their classrooms. Police arrested the man, and the whole incident was handled very discreetly so as not to alarm students, staff and parents. After the man was removed from the campus, play day went on as normal. It is a federal crime to carry a firearm on school property. MISD is grateful for family members who are alert to potential dangers and help us keep our students safe.

Hey, let's cut the guy some slack. I mean, who hasn't strolled into an elementary school or airport or federal courthouse and -- oops! -- forgotten about the pistol sticking out of our pants? Anyone?

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anonymous2112
anonymous2112

If he has a CHL it is legal to be ANYWHERE on school property that IS NOT inside the school. Sounds like Mesquite Police commited some rights infractions. But more important, what needs to be passed into law is any candy @$$ liberal who calls in a false report should be shot in the face by said CHL person they falsely call the cops on because they wet themselves at the sight of a gun. Freak liberals are a real pos...

RTGolden
RTGolden

Right, because it's always better to err on the side of dead kids than it is to err on the side of paint-chip eaters with guns.

If the CHL carrier let his firearm get exposed, he was flat out wrong and violated the terms of his license.

Thanks for playing. Here's your sign.

Oak Cliff Townie
Oak Cliff Townie

Hey Hipster 2112 how about we let another CHL person shoot the dip shit that was carrying a NON Concealed firearm.

As cool as you seem to think a CHL is, to me it shows the man has made them bow down kiss the State of Texas Ass for a RIGHT granted in the Bill of Rights. And make some other Hipster gun person rich in the process .

Free open carry It should be the American way.

Ralph
Ralph

Hell, that's nothing!  Here in Kaufman County we have a Republican election judge who tapes the "No Firearms" notice at the polling place while wearing a derringer strapped to his leg!  I suppose he's on guard in case a dripping wet Mexican shows up to engage in voter fraud!

DISD Teacher
DISD Teacher

The seemed-like-a-good-idea-at-the-time robocalls are causing parents to give fake/disconnected phone numbers on student forms.

The robocalls are used to announce PTA meetings, school performances, Messages from the Superintendent, that your child was absent in 3rd period even though the school should know that the child is on a field trip, Get Ready for Testing reminders, etc.

Parents can get multiple calls from dawn till dark and they hate it.

The kids usually have the parents' real number programmed into their own phones, but they will not give that up if they get in trouble or if they are unconscious.  

A lesson in unintended consequences...

Hannibal Lecter
Hannibal Lecter

"It is a federal crime to carry a firearm on school property".

That law was overturned in 1995. United States v. Lopez.

RTGolden
RTGolden

The language of the law was revised after US v. Lopez to circumvent the SC decision.  It passed in Congress and Bill Clinton signed it.

The revised law has stood up to several Circuit court challenges and in 2005's US v. Dorsey, the specific changes to the law were challenged and upheld.  The revised law has not been challenged in the Supreme Court.

In Texas, the law prohibits the possession of a firearm or other specified weapon IN A School Building, with certain exceptions (peace officers, officers of the court, etc.)  A school district may authorize ANYONE carrying with a CHL to also carry in the school buildings.

A Texas school district may NOT prohibit the lawful possession of a firearm on school grounds (other than in the buildings) by a CHL holder.  It is however, a Class A misdemeanor for a CHL holder to allow his concealed weapon to be displayed in a situation that does not warrant the elevation of threat.

In other words, if this man has a CHL, and if he didn't enter a school building, the worst he can be charged with is a class A misdemeanor.

http://www.tasb.org/services/l... 

Gangstead
Gangstead

Who cares if the man with a gun at a Mesquite school doesn't live in Mesquite?

Phelps
Phelps

Sounds like another hopolophobic over-reaction to me.

J. Erik Jonsson
J. Erik Jonsson

Federal crime?

Steve
Steve

Someone with a Texas CHL can actually carry onto certain parts of the school grounds, but if someone saw the handgun I'd say he didn't do a good job of concealing it, did he?  I say that as I have a child and wife at that school, and I had little concern.  If someone wants to do harm, they will do it no matter what the laws are AND they will do it swiftly and brutally so no one would have time "to tell an adult".  

I am sad that teachers (who are trusted with our children) are not allowed to protect themselves and their students, but that would never happen in Texas.  

gunsdomoregooodthanbad
gunsdomoregooodthanbad

People who have guns on them are not the problem. The problem is the person who has it out and waving it around. When is the last time a gun man attacked a school anywhere? Because of CHL and some schools allowing teachers to carry, have you not noticed the number of gun attacks on schools had plummeted? 

Just like carjackings. Remember how you heard about this on the news every single night? Then the CHL law passed and a few car jackers got killed in a week and the business of car jacking disappeared. 

scottindallas
scottindallas

 No, there hasn't been a decrease.  Nor is a CHL much good in a car jacking.  My dad was packing and carjacked.  Someone walks up behind you as you're getting out of your car, you'd be an idiot to show your weapon.  Gun's aren't worth much.  I'd rather be unarmed if someone pulled a gun on me.  The likelihood of bullets flying would only be INCREASED if both parties are armed.  I don't have a problem with CHL or guns in the hands of citizens.  But, I find the confidence that gun toters carry is misplaced and naive.

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