Dealey Plaza's Trayvon Martin Protest a Sign of Loud, Good Things to Come?

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Sunday the Dallas Peace Center chose Dealey Plaza, where JFK was killed almost a half century ago, as the site for a protest demanding justice in the killing of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin.

It's hard to feel good about anything associated with the Martin story, but Dealey Plaza was a good place to start.

Dealey Plaza, where JFK was killed almost a half century ago, has become the city's de facto Trafalgar Square, a natural stage for protest, an inviting platform for speaking truth to power.

The kind of people who have always run this city despise the use of Dealey Plaza as a Roman forum for anti-establishment rants. For decades the power structure in Dallas has tried to write off the JFK conspiracy theorists who inhabit the plaza on weekends as unsightly nut cases who need to be erased from view by an army of jack-boot scrubbing bubbles.

That's why it's such a great place for protest. The stubborn enmity of the city's moneyed right-wing oldsters, the too-many-toddies set, probably has done more than any other factor to turn Dealey Plaza into Dallas' most vibrant public venue. Despise us, and we will come.

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The Facebook cover image from Occupy Dealey Plaza. Dream big, protesters, dream big.
Dealey Plaza has history. It has presence. And it's in their faces. We owe a great debt to the JFK theorists. Like monks in the Dark Ages, they have kept protest alive in a city that can't stand it.

Three days ago The Dallas Morning News published an editorial that started out, "There is no ground in Dallas more hallowed than Dealey Plaza."

Yeah? And so what was their idea? Well, what's the best thing to do with anything sacred, according to the toddies? Remodel it, of course! The more expensive the remodeling, the better.

Their dream, they said, was, "A more ambitious roster of projects" that would "nearly double the cost by further upgrading signage, landscaping and lighting, and by creating an operating endowment to make sure the site is cared for properly in the future."

Oh, joy! Double the costs! What could be more fun?

They want signage? Landscaping? Money money money? You got it. Scrubbing bubbles. They want to scour and sanitize the place -- make it look like a shopping mall courtyard reeking of Clorox -- the way they're trying to do with the rest of downtown. It's the "broken windows" theory of crime-fighting -- but on meth. In Dallas it should be called the Gilded Windows theory of how to exterminate all signs of life.

The Gilded Windows theory says you should make everything really fancy, so you'll have a right to kick out all the unfancy people. Get rid of the homeless, of course. But also get rid of those damned JFK people who are out there raising doubts all the time. Get rid of everybody. Put up a velvet rope, electrified perhaps, and turn the whole place into a militarized azalea zone.

Where the city really has shown its hand is in its efforts to pre-emptively lock down Dealey Plaza during next year's 50th anniversary of the murder of JFK there in 1963. I have written about it a lot.

A year and a half before the anniversary, the city has granted a one-week moment-of-silence permit to the official Sixth Floor Assassination Museum with an admonishment that no other groups can be licensed to have moments of silence at any time during the official week of silence.

Can you even believe that crap?

I'm thrilled to say there are strong signs that a movement is building to occupy the plaza for some portion of that week. There is even a Facebook page already called "Occupy Dealey Plaza."

Some of the organizers have been including me in an email stream. Here are some of the things they are saying:

"If anything is to be accomplished it needs to start soon."

"We are: (1) calling for new members and (2) will discuss strategy soon."

"We already know we'll get arrested in Dealey Plaza."

"We can be carted off quickly from one main spot. Cameras never showing what happened. Therefore, we need to be distributed through the crowd so that if one person is arrested, 50 others are still dotted through the crowd."

"We will hold our banners and call for a Moment of Silence and then speak truth to power about the assassinations of the 1960s and since."

It was a really good thing to see the Martin protest at Dealey Plaza on Sunday. Couldn't have been a better home for it. Dealey Plaza is the true beating heart of the real Dallas, a city that is stubbornly alive and courageously determined to speak freely, no matter how badly the too-many-toddies may want to shut us all down.

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JimShits
JimShits

It is like my "dream narrative" has descended from Heaven and fallen into my lap, what with that "whole elderly white couple attacked by blacks" thing and all.  Great job on your absolutely retarded media incitement, you bumbling incompetent pathetic naive white-guilt libtards.

----------Elderly Couple In Fear Over Spike Lee Tweet

Star erroneously linked Floridians to man who killed Trayvon Martin

MARCH 27--With Twitter and Facebook continuing to explode with posts purporting to contain the address of George Zimmerman, property records and interviews reveal that the home is actually the longtime residence of a married Florida couple, both in their 70s, who have no connection to the man who killed Trayvon Martin and are now living in fear due to erroneous reports about their connection to the shooter.

The mass dissemination of the address on Edgewater Circle in Sanford--the Florida city where Martin was shot to death last month--took flight last Friday when director Spike Lee retweeted a tweet containing Zimmerman’s purported address to his 240,000 followers.

http://www.thesmokinggun*com/documents/spike-lee-zimmerman-tweet-567891

Ian_Smith
Ian_Smith

It is like my "dream narrative" has descended from Heaven (except I'm an atheist) and fallen into my lap, what with that "whole elderly white couple attacked by blacks" thing and all.

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Elderly Couple In Fear Over Spike Lee Tweet

Star erroneously linked Floridians to man who killed Trayvon Martin

MARCH 27--With Twitter and Facebook continuing to explode with posts purporting to contain the address of George Zimmerman, property records and interviews reveal that the home is actually the longtime residence of a married Florida couple, both in their 70s, who have no connection to the man who killed Trayvon Martin and are now living in fear due to erroneous reports about their connection to the shooter.

The mass dissemination of the address on Edgewater Circle in Sanford--the Florida city where Martin was shot to death last month--took flight last Friday when director Spike Lee retweeted a tweet containing Zimmerman’s purported address to his 240,000 followers.

http://www.thesmokinggun*com/documents/spike-lee-zimmerman-tweet-567891

Ian_Smith
Ian_Smith

Wow.  Way to go with your NAIVE, ABSOLUTELY RETARDED, extremely inaccurate, totally overblown, incredibly stupid dipshit "progressive" media incitement, you NAIVE WHITE-GUILT LIBTARDS.  Way to go you totally fucking stupid sickening naive white-guilt libtards. 

It is like my "dream narrative" has descended from Heaven (but I'm an atheist) and fallen into my lap, what with that "whole elderly white couple attacked by blacks" thing and all.  Jim Shitze is an elderly white guy, right?

----------Elderly Couple In Fear Over Spike Lee Tweet

Star erroneously linked Floridians to man who killed Trayvon Martin

MARCH 27--With Twitter and Facebook continuing to explode with posts purporting to contain the address of George Zimmerman, property records and interviews reveal that the home is actually the longtime residence of a married Florida couple, both in their 70s, who have no connection to the man who killed Trayvon Martin and are now living in fear due to erroneous reports about their connection to the shooter.

The mass dissemination of the address on Edgewater Circle in Sanford--the Florida city where Martin was shot to death last month--took flight last Friday when director Spike Lee retweeted a tweet containing Zimmerman’s purported address to his 240,000 followers.

http://www.thesmokinggun*com/documents/spike-lee-zimmerman-tweet-567891

Ian_Smith
Ian_Smith

Wow.  Way to go with your NAIVE, ABSOLUTELY RETARDED, extremely inaccurate, totally overblown, incredibly stupid dipshit "progressive" media incitement, you NAIVE WHITE-GUILT LIBTARDS.  Way to go you totally fucking stupid sickening naive white-guilt libtards. 

It is like my "dream narrative" has descended from Heaven (except that I'm an atheist) and fallen into my lap, what with that "whole elderly white couple attacked by blacks" thing and all.  Jim Shitze is an elderly white guy, right?

----------Elderly Couple In Fear Over Spike Lee Tweet

Star erroneously linked Floridians to man who killed Trayvon Martin

MARCH 27--With Twitter and Facebook continuing to explode with posts purporting to contain the address of George Zimmerman, property records and interviews reveal that the home is actually the longtime residence of a married Florida couple, both in their 70s, who have no connection to the man who killed Trayvon Martin and are now living in fear due to erroneous reports about their connection to the shooter.

The mass dissemination of the address on Edgewater Circle in Sanford--the Florida city where Martin was shot to death last month--took flight last Friday when director Spike Lee retweeted a tweet containing Zimmerman’s purported address to his 240,000 followers.

http://www.thesmokinggun*com/documents/spike-lee-zimmerman-tweet-567891

Ian_Smith
Ian_Smith

Wow.  Way to go with your NAIVE, ABSOLUTELY RETARDED, extremely inaccurate, totally overblown, incredibly stupid dipshit "progressive" media incitement, you NAIVE WHITE-GUILT LIBTARDS.  Way to go you totally fucking stupid sickening naive white-guilt libtards. 

It is like my "dream narrative" has descended from Heaven and fallen into my lap, what with that "whole elderly white couple attacked by blacks" thing and all.  Jim Shitze is an elderly white guy, right?

----------Elderly Couple In Fear Over Spike Lee Tweet

Star erroneously linked Floridians to man who killed Trayvon Martin

MARCH 27--With Twitter and Facebook continuing to explode with posts purporting to contain the address of George Zimmerman, property records and interviews reveal that the home is actually the longtime residence of a married Florida couple, both in their 70s, who have no connection to the man who killed Trayvon Martin and are now living in fear due to erroneous reports about their connection to the shooter.

The mass dissemination of the address on Edgewater Circle in Sanford--the Florida city where Martin was shot to death last month--took flight last Friday when director Spike Lee retweeted a tweet containing Zimmerman’s purported address to his 240,000 followers.

http://www.thesmokinggun*com/documents/spike-lee-zimmerman-tweet-567891

Ian_Smith
Ian_Smith

THIS IS ALL WHITEY'S FAULT! SWEET HARMLESS AKEEM WAS JUST UPSET ABOUT TRAYVON!

Police: MU student severely beat, kidnapped girlfriend

March 26, 2012

A Millersville University student is charged with severely beating his ex-girlfriend and kidnapping her from a campus dormitory this weekend.

Akeem M. Johnson, 24, punched the victim at least 10 times Saturday morning before forcing her from her room at Burrowes Hall and into his car, according to a police affidavit.

The victim, also a student, told police that Johnson was mad that "she stayed out all night and (he) could not find her," a Millersville University police officer wrote in the affidavit.

The victim, who isn't being identified by the Intelligencer Journal/Lancaster New Era, sustained a split lip and broken teeth, according to the affidavit....

On Friday night, he stood prominently at an on-campus rally regarding the death of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, holding a sign saying, "I am Trayvon Martin."

Trayvon, a black 17-year-old boy, was killed last month by a neighborhood crime-watch volunteer. He was unarmed.

Johnson and about 50 other MU students rallied Friday night in ceremony for the slain teen.

A few hours later, police allege, Johnson went to Burrowes Hall to find his ex-girlfriend. She wasn't there, so he waited in the lobby.

The affidavit outlines the alleged crimes that followed this way:

The victim, who lives on the third floor, arrived and walked to an elevator.

Johnson was "agitated," and he confronted the woman there. They both got into the elevator, and Johnson started beating the woman's head.

The elevator stopped on the third floor, but Johnson kept the woman in the elevator car, and they went back to the first floor.

"Once in the lobby, Johnson was manhandling (the victim), grabbing her around the waist and pulling and pushing her around," the officer wrote in the affidavit.

Johnson then forced the woman out a side door and into his car and drove back to his residence on Pickwick Place, near campus.

Neighbors saw Johnson "dragging" the woman across a yard. One neighbor intervened, and the woman fled.

She reached the police station and reported the crimes.

Johnson was arrested later in the day and was arraigned Sunday morning by District Judge Nancy Hamill.

Johnson was a a running back on MU's football team in 2006 and 2009 and was one of the team's leading rushers during those seasons.

He attended Germantown High School, where he set school rushing records for yards in a game and yards in a season.

http://lancasteronline*com/article/local/612551_Police--MU-student-severely-beat--kidnapped-girlfriend.html

Ian_Smith
Ian_Smith

It was a fitting tribute to the "NO_LIMIT_NIGGA" !

Get out there and riot for Trayvon, all you "progressive" white-guilt libtard "activists"!

Ian_Smith
Ian_Smith

Wow, those Trayvon protesters in Maimi Beach sure 'trayvonned' the fuck out of that Walgreen's!

Kill Whitey! Jim Schitze thinks it is grooovie!

sandra crenshaw
sandra crenshaw

since you like city of dallas cover up conspiracies, please investigate why an elderly disabled senior citizen got the hell beat out of him by the Korean gas station owner in South Dallas and left unconscious and he is still walking out his car each day giving the bird to protesters. Where did you find the self righteous African American journalist that says that EYE am a racist. because I am trying to invoke hatred against Koreans by always referring to merchants who mistreat us by their nationality. That's racism, he says. Well what in the hell do you call the beating that a black man got at a gas station owned and operated by a Korean American.. If a white man did it, we would say a white man beat me and most blacks would call the white man a racist. I don't get it. I get pushed out the door of by Korean merchant and because I said blacks perceive Korean merchants as rude. EYE am a racist against Koreans. WHERE DID YA"LL find this niggah! NOW, let him call me a racist for callling HIM a niggah.    Reporters in this city always say a black male shot and killed, a black male robbed a gas station, when I dial 911 they say is he black, white or hispanic. are they racists is the victim a racist because they say he was attacked by a Korean. Rob Wilonsky had a fit when I said that Bill Betzen wanted to count every Mexican on the map. If you are not a Mexican American and you are from Mexico. You are a Mexican.  Is this how we taught to not want to be who we are. Lord we need help. .   

Ian_Smith
Ian_Smith

Here's some of the latest developments of absurd bullshit in this white-guilt "progressive" libtard media-created farce, WAY TO GO WHITE-GUILT LIBTARD MEDIA!  Way to Go, Jim Shits!

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Police: Trayvon protesters ransack store

North Miami Beach Walgreens incident caught on video

Published On: Mar 27 2012

NORTH MIAMI BEACH, Fla. -

North Miami Beach police said surveillance video shows dozens of high school students demonstrating in the Trayvon Martin case Friday ransacking a Walgreens store.

The incident occurred during a walkout from North Miami Beach Senior High School in support of Martin, 17, who was fatally shot in Sanford. Protesters have been calling for the arrest of George Zimmerman, 28, who has not been charged because he claimed self-defense in the shooting, according to police.

Minutes after walking out of their school Friday, a large group of students walked through the streets of North Miami Beach. Along the way, they stopped at a Walgreens at 163rd Street and 15th Avenue at about 10:40 a.m.

Surveillance video shows dozens of teenagers running through the store. Police said about 80 to 100 students stormed in, ransacking the shelves, before the school's vice principal ordered everyone outside.

North Miami Beach police said students damaged items worth about $150. Local 10's John Turchin reported some merchandise also was stolen.

Some of the students dropped their IDs on the way out of the store, police said, so investigators have an idea of who was inside.

The investigation continues.

http://www.local10*com/news/Police-Trayvon-protesters-ransack-store/-/1717324/9719674/-/xctonpz/-/index.html

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In other news, retarded gnome Spike Lee is about to get his ass sued off, because he tweeted the wrong address, putting an innocent woman's life in danger.

Spike Lee re-tweets incorrect address of Trayvon Martin shooter

Filmmaker Spike Lee made waves on Twitter last week when he re-tweeted to his 200,000 followers (h/t Twitchy) what was thought to be George Zimmerman's home address in Sanford, Florida. Mr. Zimmerman told Sanford police last month that he fatally shot 17 year old Trayvon Martin in self-defense. 

However, the Edgewater Circle address Mr. Lee re-tweeted out is not part of the gated Retreat at Twin Lakes where the shooting took place and where Mr. Zimmerman lives. The area is not even a gated community.

In fact, I took a drive to that Edgewater Circle address that so many on Twitter re-tweeted and cursed, and I discovered through a neighbor, named Tim, who lives across the street from the address, that not only does George Zimmerman not live at the lakeside house but a woman by the name of Elaine does.

According to Tim, a number of news agencies drove through looking for Mr. Zimmerman. While it was not wise to incite the masses to go to an address he thought was Mr. Zimmerman's to begin with, Mr. Lee should should still "do the right thing" and give the actual resident at the address above some peace and apologize for disrupting her life.

http://www.washingtontimes*com/blog/watercooler/2012/mar/27/picket-spike-lee-re-tweets-incorrect-address-trayv/

elsando
elsando

I thought we were gonna get a Ferris wheel!

Ian_Smith
Ian_Smith

Hey Jim Shits

Are you really such a huge naive white-guilt reality-ignoring goofy libtard that you would actually tell Bob and Nancy Strait of Tulsa that their "fear" was "white racist crack"?

Oh wait! You can't tell 85-year-old Nancy Strait that her "fear" is "white racist crack", because she is dead because a black teenager raped her to death on March 14, 2012

Jim, maybe you will get the opportunity to tell Nancy Strait's widower, 90-year old Bob Strait, that his "fear" was "White racist crack".

But Bob Strait probably won't be able to respond to you very well, Jim Shits, because he is in the hospital with life-threatening injuries, including a broken jaw, so he probably won't be able to respond to your idiotic naive white-guilt libtard slur of "white racist crack".

What do you say, Jim Shits, you pathetic white-guilt libtard propagandist scum?

Tell Bob and Nancy Strait's relatives that their "fear" was "white racist crack".

I dare you.

East Dallas Dad
East Dallas Dad

Thanks for proving Jim's point - fear is the white racist's crack.

Ian_Smith
Ian_Smith

Tell that to Bob and Nancy Strait, you pathetic white-guilt asshole.

Oh wait, you can't, 85-year old Nancy got RAPED TO DEATH by a black teenager, etc etc etc.

I actually hope that you are the next person who gets to pay the "Random Diversity Tax" in some spectacularly horrible way.

Remember me when it happens.

Albert
Albert

Jim has a greater point that I think a lot of people have missed.

Dealey Plaza represents the people's space, and in this age when the avenues of communication available to the people are so tightly throttled and unavailable to the disenfranchised, these public spaces, like Speakers Corner or Dealy Plaza become very valuable real estate.

In context to the problem in Florida, that sort of real estate would be neccessary for the people to form a mob  impressive enough to convince the authorities to hand the guilty man over  to Special Agent Sharpton.

If ever the times demanded a MIC CHECK, that time is now.

james
james

hey schutze. i agree with a lotta the stuff you say in different articles. i'm a conspiracy nutjob of sorts, myself. i'm also a believer in second amendment, rights to carry, an' castle laws. i don't hafta be abused by  anybody anywhere. i'm also a regular commenter on thes blogs about scumwad DA's repeatedly destroyin' peoples lives when they knew better. i call fer their prosecution. i think they should do the time their victims did, one after another. every victim.now all these people callin' fer the head of the guy who shot that kid. do y'all want henry wade's type justice fer that kid? is that it?  burn that sonofabitch now 'cause it's very popular! me an' you weren't there. we didn't see whether the guy shot him in cold blood an' bashed hisself inna head to make it look like self defense. or whether he politely explained hisself, asked what the kid was about, an' got hisself punched out. i ain't got much faith in our injustice system to git this one right either. our constitution sez pretty plain to PROVE IT GOOD or LET HIM WALK. i personally, don't wanna smell no more wade style injustice.

Ian_Smith
Ian_Smith

Do you really have to write in that contrived "cute folksy" style? It makes your post almost unreadable.

james
james

i don't really have to do anything but live until i die an' then die. mark twain usta write in a 'folksy style'. literate people didn't have a problem understandin' him. are you 'literarily challenged'? ifn i'm too danged complicated fer ya, i'm real sorry that ya didn't git past the 6th grade in school. you could try eastfield. they got some english writin' classes there. my wife teaches one.

Ian_Smith
Ian_Smith

Wow...

So incredibly goofy and lame

PlanoDave
PlanoDave

Jim,

Again, you refer to the " city's moneyed right-wing oldsters, the too-many-toddies set".  You really like to blame everything on the suburbs or the Republicans.  Generalization is fun.  Generalization lets you get away with slander.  Generalization lets you make unsupportable assertions.

How about you man up and name some names instead of tossing around generalizations?  Until then, you have no more credibility than the conspiracy theorists.

Or are you afraid that if you do that, you will actually have to back up some of the things you say with, maybe, facts?

Anon
Anon

without siding with Jim on this one, how many of the plutocrats in Dallas are willing to put their name on the work they do? they love having their names on buildings in the Arts District but you don't see them running around town proclaiming how proud they are to have successfully donated to enough politicians to get the next big contract that goes in the bond package, or getting that no-bid NTTA contract. say what you want about Harlan Crow and his crusade against the Soviet hotel, but at least his name was on all the opposition and people knew that it was about protecting his interest in the Anatole. meanwhile the supporters of the hotel never told you the way they stood to profit handsomely from the project. if they didn't benefit directly, you can bet that they were standing by an associate whose support they would need for their own future business dealings.you don't want to believe that there is a small group of people running the city, but that doesn't make it completely incorrect. it doesn't mean they have an iron grip on it, but to minimize their influence would be foolish.

Mike
Mike

Why are we just feeding the egos of these loser, nut job conspiracy twits by making this area a focus of attention? Do not do anything official! The Kennedy family does not want anything done except at the grave side. Let these losers walk around, but arrest them if they impede any traffic like anywhere else in the city. Lots of tickets for jay walking. No one is allowed to block a square inch of sidewalk without a permit. Have no one in government anywhere near that plaza.

If you want something do a non-denominational service at the Guadalupe Cathedral. That is where the officials should be. Make sure you honor that motorcycle officer too. Make sure everyone stays on message by saying we honor the men and have contempt for the creep that killed both of them.

The murder was done by a pathetic loser and now we have other pathetic losers trying to get someone to cover them. Stay away and let the press cover them. Put a microphone in their faces and they will sink themselves.

james
james

hey i'm a nutjob conspiracy theorist. why can't we stand in the book suppository an' look out the window where oswald supposedly shot him? is it because they don't want us to realize firsthand, the difficulty/impossibility of makin' those shots? they need to  re-landscape away the grassy knoll, too. it's a dam doable shot there, even fer an amateur.

Rob Lew
Rob Lew

with the New Black Panthers posting a million dollar bounty on Zimmerman's capture (lynching, dragging, burning, cruxifiction?) and planning to form up a MILITIA....how much longer before some Bedford Forest guy Films a NEW BIRTH OF A NATION film in DETROIT and gathers up a bunch of bedsheets to form his OWN little club?

JimS
JimS

Fear is the white racist crack.

Boadie
Boadie

Is hyperbole yours, or do you just sling it on the corner?

Pete34tru
Pete34tru

Look in the mirror, JimS.  Fear is the only thing you write about.  You come across as the most fearful, freaked-out, person in town.  Surely you realize that's the image you're projecting.  Not some valiant knight for populist justice, "speaking truth to power."  Rather, a guy who's constantly freaked out, looking for muck to rake.

james
james

jist 'cause we're paranoid don't mean they ain't out to git us.

Parvomon
Parvomon

So the guy in hiding from a lynch mob is on crack?

JOSHUA
JOSHUA

I knew JFK....JFK was MY FRIEND.   Sir,Trayvon Martin was NO JFK! 

ts
ts

Change the name to Confirmation Bias Plaza and get it over with already.

just sayin'
just sayin'

In a perfect world, the 50th anniversary would include a concert on the rooftop of the Book Depository much like the one the Beatles pulled off on top of Apple's headquarters in London. Somebody call Liles and get him to book the Dead Kennedys for November 22nd.

Heywood U. Buzzoff
Heywood U. Buzzoff

A year and a half before the anniversary, the city has granted a one-week moment-of-silence permit to the official Sixth Floor Assassination Museum with an admonishment that no other groups can be licensed to have moments of silence at any time during the official week of silence.

I propose that we dress like mimes, call ourselves the 'Schutze Your Mouths', and walk around silently in protest.  Either that or we call crowd around with cell phones to our ears while braying like Dallas residents do when standing around outside. 

RTGolden
RTGolden

I'm sure the protestors at the Trayvon Martin march will be thrilled that you gave their cause such in-depth coverage.

Rob Lew
Rob Lew

 ...and WHAT IS that cause anyway?....some college kids and equals all angry and no Occupy Bunch around to hang with?

cp
cp

"...the power structure in Dallas has tried to write off the JFK conspiracy theorists who inhabit the plaza on weekends as unsightly nut cases who need to be erased from view by an army of jack-boot scrubbing bubbles.:I think that maybe you're the only person who thinks this...

Dm
Dm

I have yet to understand this protest. A black dude beat the shit out of a white dude and got shot. The law in Florida clearly states he had the right to do so. Why not protest the legislators in Fla. that passed the law?

Just something else to get riled up about I suppose.

Bettyculbreath
Bettyculbreath

The white dude was following black dude for a while called police,police told him stop following black dude he kept on following and asking questions I'm sure at some point black dude stopped or white dude stopped him what ever happen to make the two connect is the real unknow part.If police would have secured crime scene some order of what happen could have been recreated.All people are asking for is an investigation of what and how it happen since the smaller black dude had no weapon.

Tom L (No, not that L)
Tom L (No, not that L)

 That's the story of the guy that survived, anyway.

CR
CR

 NO, several witnesses reported that's what happened.  So it's a legitimate case of self-defense being turned into some Rodney King-type racial crap.

Anon
Anon

self defense for someone punching you is to shoot him? I can honestly say that's not the country I want to live in.

james
james

if someone punched me in the face in my driveway i'd shoot'em, regardless of race or haircut or clothes. castle law.  i don't hafta be abused in my own space. our constitution sez clearly that it's better to let a guilty person go free than to fuck over an innocent. if there's only one story, then...does our writer sound like a dallas DA from wade's office today? burn that sonofabitch guilty or not because it's the popular thing to do!!  now i wasn't there an' i don't know if that kid punched him out fer askin' what he was up to or not. it'll prob'ly wind up in front of a jury. i'm glad i ain't gonna be on it. i'll be a tough one if they don't git some witnesses. did he shoot him fer bein' a punk in a hoodie? did he ask what he was about an' explain why he was askin'? did the kid tell him to fuckoff an' punch his lights, thereby earnin' his bullet?

Anon
Anon

I propose that we pass a law that all fist fights must be elevated to lethal fights with guns as a matter of American pride. anything less and we're just like those sissies over in Europe.

james
james

if a guy twice my size an' half my age wants to fight an' i don't, an' he ain't takin' no thanx fer an answer, then i ain't gonna wind up in the emergency room with permanent damage to an already wore out ass.

Parvomon
Parvomon

The important thing about that case is the size of the bounty on the guy's head.

When the pres called for soul-searching, some searched and found their inner crazy bastard.

sloppy jalopy
sloppy jalopy

Hasn't that law always been on the books in every state? The one where if a black dude beats the shit out of a white dude, the white dude can kill with extreme prejudice and then get off scot free. Yeah, sounds about right.

Chris Danger
Chris Danger

Good piece Jim, I agree, Dallasites need the right to speak their minds in a situation like this. Observing the 50th of JFK needs to be respectful, but open, to anyone whom wants to come. But, it doesnt need to become a total outright circus either with people spinning conspiracy theories and whatnot. I want to see respectful speakers whom can communicate about the dream of a better America for everyone and how to build towards that reality. 

Anon
Anon

have you ever been to Hyde Park corner in London, or Union Square in New York? crazy people all over the place saying whatever nutjob theory they have. I don't subscribe to the "world class city theory" but every city (world class or not) needs a place where its weirdos can gather. if their theories are so crazy, they will be disregarded in the marketplace of ideas. if you suppress the conspiracy theorists, you're playing right into the idea that people will latch on to a nugget of truth buried in the crazy (which of course implies that there is something to hide)

Eastdallasgirl
Eastdallasgirl

I am glad we have a grand location centered in Downtown Dallas for such peaceful protests. This is what democracy is about, whether it be in the big city or a little town.Dealy Plaza is close to the Courthouse, the Dallas Morning News office, and only a couple of miles from the Dallas Observer offices too. Now, I believe my mother told me that she saw JFK shot in the 'grassy knoll', just down the street...

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