Jeffress Has Faith in Santorum Because "He's Not Some Nutjob Out There on the Fringe"

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Like I said yesterday, Rick Santorum's in town today raising money for his campaign. This morning it was coffee at a country club -- Royal Oaks, to be specific, on Greenville Ave., where cups were filled for $1,000 a pop, $2,500 if you were among the "hosts." Then it's off to Westlake and a visit with Glenn Beck. Wonder if he met with First Baptist's Robert Jeffress, who was indeed on with former WFAA'er Bill O'Reilly last night singing Santorum's praises as a man who can inspire evangelical voters. Watch below.

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mprn
mprn

Very hypocritical.  He says Catholics are a cult.  Santorum is Catholic.  Also, the cost of this new building is disgusting.  That money could have (and should have) gone to feed hungry kids or in helping the community in some way. 

Russp
Russp

"Nutjob out there on the fringe" sounds like the perfect description of Jeffress.

Citizen Kim
Citizen Kim

While O'Rielly and Father Beck are discussing the Ash Wednesday ashes on their foreheads, don't you just know Jeffress is thinking "begone, you sons of Satan!"

engmofo
engmofo

I'm lovin' the initial frame capture on 2/2......One Power ranger.........One masterbater ........One Deer in the headlights with a target on his head

engmofo
engmofo

Although #3 could have just figured out what Pastor Jeffress was doing..........I'm calling "Caption Contest"

Abh
Abh

Robert Jeffress Scares me. He is intolerant of other peoples beliefs even though they are biblically more accurate than his own. It's nut jobs like him that we all need to be weary of.

Oak Cliff Townie
Oak Cliff Townie

 But you would want him on your team when it comes to Bible trivia Pursuit ......

Zevon
Zevon

How much income tax does the Good Partor pay on his earned income? What does he give to charity? if he is wanting to run the country so much like his church lets see it Robert.

scottindallas
scottindallas

 Presumably he'd pay the same tax rate anyone else would.  Now he may have access to church owned facilities and the like, which effectively shelters some income, though that's an advantage most top execs and self-employed enjoy.

Jack E. Jett
Jack E. Jett

It takes nutjobs to tea bag.  Everyone knows that.

scottindallas
scottindallas

The Catholics win this one.  Funny when devout Catholics are far more mainstream than evangelicals.  Big institutions have their certain flaws, but Orthodoxy has some perspective that the newly converted miss.  

PlanoDave
PlanoDave

"Orthodoxy" has nothing at all to do with how recently you have begun believing.

It indicates the importance of correct thought, as compared to "Orthopraxy" which emphasizes correct behavior.

scottindallas
scottindallas

Another meaning of Orthodoxy refers to venerable institutions and the time honored judgments as to how to apply faith to life.  These institutions have their flaws, but they also, though slowly, do moderate over time.  

scottindallas
scottindallas

You'd need a religious dictionary, much like a law dictionary to get this defintion.  It was used this by Hans Kung, Tillich and many other religious thinkers.  Again, inherent in the term is the reference to venerable institutions versus, evangelical, fundamentalist or other less venerable elements.  When seen in contrast, the big Churches define "orthodoxy" and protestant churches generally react to these leviathans.  For instance, the Episcopal and Lutheran Churches are orthodox in their way.  Methodist and Presbyterian churches are less hierarchical, hence guided by their local Synods, or whatever they call their groups.  I'd suggest there's not a big difference in where these four Churches stand on most issues, but they get there in different ways.  In religion, we'd describe the apostolic tradition as Orthodox.  Again, my comment pertains to the body that takes their brokered position, often after much wrangling.  They don't take these positions willy nilly.  And, while some positions may be rigid, most have, from experience more nuance than we might imagine.  This is derived in Islam along the methebs into something akin to case law.  The Catholics have similarly derived canon law.  I was referring to the Priest's more measured position of the three.  The Catholic Church has long grappled with adherents that don't adhere on this very position.  Rather than ostracize their members by retrenching, they've relaxed.  Something the fundie Right is still hypocritical about.  That hypocrisy allows them to be more strident in word, as they'll fail to live up to their impossible strictures (this is a point they'd ultimately agree with me on, admitting that only Jesus could live the law)

ts
ts

Sweater vests are not fringe worthy, no matter the context.

RTGolden
RTGolden

Easy now, that sweater vest has star quality, it was a guest on Letterman a couple of nights ago.

DuckDuckGoose
DuckDuckGoose

 Roger Daltry wishes to disagree ..  (i know, he didn't wear sweater vests, but gimmie some latitude).

HEY YOU, IN THE BACK
HEY YOU, IN THE BACK

  ‎"We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate. All are free to believe or not believe, all are free to practice a faith or not, and those who believe are free, and should be free, to to speak of and act on their belief. At the same time that our Constitution prohibits state establishment of religion, it protects the free exercise of all religions. And walking this fine line requires government to be strictly neutral." - Ronald Reagan

Lee
Lee

Can the pot judge the kettle?

Guest
Guest

So he's not Robert Jeffress then?

The Credible Hulk
The Credible Hulk

Jeffress is a very scary person. A true believer's true believer.

He and Santorum make a lovely couple, though.

RandyRichards
RandyRichards

Maybe. But it does indeed depend on what you are believing in. Being a true believer isn't all that bad. ;) I wouldn't paint 'true believers' with the same brush as a man like Rick Santorum.

The Credible Hulk
The Credible Hulk

Both of them believe that they know better than I how I should live my life.

Neither of these authoritarians should ever hold seats of power.

Anon
Anon

How is he not in the fringe? He thinks sex, even within marriage, that has no potential reproductive purpose is wrong and even worse, thinks it is an appropriate subject for public policy. Seems pretty out there to me.

midwestmomof2
midwestmomof2

 Yes, I am sure Rick and his wife abstain from sex while she is pregnant for 9 long months!  And, once she is past child-bearing age, that will be the end of sex for them both for life... Can we get a camera in their bedroom just to check, though?

T. Erickson
T. Erickson

Consider the audience - to them, Santorum is mainstream and Ron Paul is on the fringe.

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