How Did 65-Year-Old Woman Manage to Get Gun Through DFW Airport Security, Anyway?

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No doubt you've heard by now that a 65-year-old Little Elm woman was arrested at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport this morning for taking a .38-caliber pistol aboard an American Airlines flight. The Transportation Security Administration sent out a press release early this morning; a couple of hours later, DFW Airport spokesman Dave Magana followed up with the airport's official what-for that also said 10 flights had been delayed for around 25 minutes.

Long story short, per DFW's account: At 6:19 this morning, TSA called airport security and said they needed help tracking down someone who got through a checkpoint at Terminal D carrying a gun. Took about two hours to find her, and at 8 a.m. a Houston-bound American flight parked at Gate D31 was called back to the gate for a secondary inspection,at which point they found the woman with the gun in her purse. Airport cops took her into custody and charged her with a third-degree felony: Places Weapons Prohibited. She's been released and will face those charges in Dallas County.

Which doesn't answer the question: Why didn't TSA workers spot the gun and take her into custody while she was actually, you know, standing right there? I sent Magana a note a few hours ago and didn't hear back. I also called TSA HQ for an explanation. They resent the press release, which says only that "the owner of the bag left the checkpoint before the screening process was complete and prior to surrendering the firearm." Luis Casanova, TSA spokesperson for the South Central Region, then told me via email: "Any further inquiry beyond this should be directed to the DFW Airport Police." Which, when contacted, said to call Magana.

At last, I reached Magana. His response, on the record: "For specific questions about process inside the checkpoint, those are more appropriately asked of TSA."
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Dunnski
Dunnski

Might be a couple of enemployed mofo's roud that way soon.

Johnny Holiday
Johnny Holiday

Queu up Aerosmith......  Dum, dum, dum, honey what have you done?Dum, dum, dum it's the sound of my gun.Dum, dum, dum, honey what have you done?Dum, dum, dum it's the soundGrannys got a gunGrannys got a gunHer whole world's come undoneFrom lookin' straight at the sunWhat did the old lady do?What did she put the TSA through?They said when Grannywas arrested they found her inside the planeBut man, they had it comin'Now that Grannys got a gun she ain't never gonna be the same.Grannys got a gunGrannys got a gunHer dog day's just begunNow everybody is on the runTell me now it's untrue.What did this old bag do?She jacked a little TSA fool.The woman has got to be insaneThey say the spell that she was under the lightning and the thunder knew that someone had to stop the rainRun away, run away from the pain yeah, yeah yeah yeahRun away run away from the pain yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeahRun away, run away, run, run awayGrannys got a gunGrannys got a gunHer dog day's just begunNow everybody is on the runWhat did this old lady do?Turned the TSA into fools.She had to take them down easy and put a bullet in their brainsShe said 'cause nobody believes me. The TSA is so sleezy. They ain't never gonna be the same.Run away, run away from the pain yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeahRun away run away from the pain yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Run away, run away, run, run awayGrannys got a gunGrannys got a gunGrannys got a gunEverybody is on the runGrannys got a gunHer dog day's just begunNow everybody is on the runBecause Grannys got a gunGrannys got a gunHer dog day's just begunNow everybody is on the runGrannys got a gun

james
james

news releases say the lady lawyer was a dingbat who forgot to remove the gun from her bag. considering the circumstances, this is almost certainly true. she did a barry switzer. isn't a felony charge just a bit extreme for an accident? the TSA idjits showed their incompetence, panicked, and, because of their incompetence, they held up some flights, inconvenienced  some people, screwed up some schedules. i agree that another chl holder should be more responsible/aware of their iron. it might be a reason to pull the chl, but it ain't a reason to send the poor forgetful lady to prison or rob her. 

trudat
trudat

All this "effective security" mess is just a show to allow the gullible souls (who give away their responsibility to think and act) some time to feel safe and secure and pampered - or whatever.

If little old ladies and other supposedly safe image types are stopped, there are still an infinite number of ways to smuggle destructive tools like bombs and guns onto commercial air craft. What about plastic guns?  What about disassembled guns that are brought on as parts of other assembled items?  What about stuff that is smuggled on in human body parts after its been disassembled?  Who can say that the miserable salaries payed to TSA folk will stop them from being bribed by some well financed cartel?  The options open to someone who wants to put forth some effort and get through airport security and do bad things are almost unlimited and always will be that way. 

The need for such meaningless security is only a symptom of the problem.  The current problem is a foreign policy which creates stuff like 911.  Until we solve the problem, we will not have security.   

Phelps
Phelps

That's the exact opposite definition of a right. That's like saying that the needs of many white people outweighs the needs of a few black people to vote, or that the needs of the many potential victims outweighs the need of your right to demand a warrant before the police search your house.

The whole POINT of rights are to protect the unpopular minorities. Things that are widespread and popular don't NEED protection.

cockadoodledoooo
cockadoodledoooo

What's the percentage of things like this happening in relation to how many folks they(TSA) screen daily/weekly/monthly? Would a private security co. have a perfect score? 

Guest
Guest

It is interesting that a person with a picture of a gun on her purse couldn't get through security but a person with an actual gun in her purse made it right through.

http://gawker.com/5864775/tsa-...

pak152
pak152

great googlie mooglie they better check on the TSA agent who can't identify a 38 special on an xray machine. The thang should stand out clearly on the screen. I've had them dive into a bag that held items smaller than that or to check out a baggie filled with coins. further proof that it is all Kabuki theater

Montemalone
Montemalone

Thank Gawd it wasn't a dangerous full sized tube of toothpaste or fingernail clippers, dontcha know.

skeptic
skeptic

The skeptic in me wonders if this lady was planted by TSA so as to have a clear incident to reference whenever the argument against searching older folks was brought up...

james
james

so all that crap about big brother keeping people safe...and they gotta demonstrate their total incompetence. with idjits like that watchin' my back...

MushMouth1
MushMouth1

What do you expect from folks who couldn't cut it as mall security guards?

If the government and airlines were serious about security they would hire professionals.

NewsDog
NewsDog

On a more serious note, this really shows how ‘luck of the draw’ who ever does the search is. A few years back I was going thru DFW to Chicago with my son for a game (GO CUBS) and we get pulled out of line. After several minutes I asked what was wrong and I was told a Supervisor was on the way. Getting close to missing the flight the Supervisor finally shows up and there is a TSA conference. The Supervisor quietly takes me aside and shows me the soft holster and two loose .45 rounds that had been in my bag. Big OOPS, my fault, I missed them in my hurry to pack. They questioned me, and my son, and when they were convinced it was an accident we were on our way (they confiscated the ammo). My TSA experience was very professional but I have seen several others that were not so much.  Should have been an omen… the Cubbies lost.      

Wylie H.
Wylie H.

[At 6:19 this morning, TSA called airport security and said they needed help tracking down someone who got through a checkpoint at Terminal D carrying a gun. Took about two hours to find her, and at 8 a.m. a Houston-bound American flight parked at Gate D31 was called back to the gate for a secondary inspection,at which point they found the woman with the gun in her purse.... She's been released and will face those charges in Dallas County.]

I know I've posted this question before, but why do all the criminals from DFW Airport get sent to Dallas County for incarceration/prosecution, and why do all the sick and injured from the airport get sent to Parkland?  A quick check of maps clearly indicate that all of the airline terminals at DFW Airport are located entirely within Tarrant County-- for that reason, most of the tax revenues generated by DFW Airport go to political entities located in Tarrant County.

Does the Airport reimburse Dallas County for the substantial costs associated with dealing with all the sick and/or misbehaving people out at the terminals located within Tarrant County?

Guest
Guest

I suspect the TSA didn't find the gun because they were busy shaking other travelers down for yummy, dangerous cupcakes.

LaceyB
LaceyB

Don't you love emailing someone and not getting response or just getting the run-around? Me too, Robert. Me too!

NewsDog
NewsDog

Sorry Bruce, but that’s Bruce’s job.   I beg your pardon Bruce but it’s Bruce’s job. You’re wrong there Bruce it’s Bruce’s job.   I think I need to call Bruce and get an official opinion on that Bruce.

LaceyB
LaceyB

All too recently, my mother (on or around 65), while acting unfortunately like an alkie going through security, dropped the G-U-N word, and it was like all hell broke loose. I grabbed her, stepped up to them like the "El Centro Sista" I can be at times, and hustled her away from those latex glove jockeys.The boy that lives in Wilonsky's house knows more about guns than my mother, guaranteed.

Still, this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zg3fT...

scottindallas
scottindallas

Arrests of old ladies don't enhance the security theatre they are working so hard to orchestrate.

Bobby
Bobby

Why did they resent the press release?

Steven
Steven

They didn't find the gun because it wasn't in her underwear, shoe or 3oz mouthwash bottle.  The TSA exists only to keep the TSA employed and see you naked.

Ed D.
Ed D.

So the way to beat TSA "security" is to pick up your stuff and calmly walk away?

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin

So where are those protesters at now who say the little old ladies shouldnt be harrassed by screeners.

Guest
Guest

Of course no system is going to be perfect, which is kind of the point.

We know we can't design a perfect system, but we keep adding layers and layers of security that costs money, time and dignity that don't end up making the system any closer to perfect.

It's not only possible but likely that banning pictures of guns and searching 10 billion shoes hasn't made the airlines any safer than we otherwise would have been.

It's possible that by requiring TSA workers to concentrate on the size of people's shampoo bottles and on belt buckles and their shoes and whatnot that we've made it easier for the big things to slip through (and despite checking 10 billion shoes at this point, as far as I know, no explosive shoes have been found).

Honeybee
Honeybee

 I see what you're saying, but still...I just can't get over how they missed a GUN with a scanning MACHINE.

If TSA can't stop a gun that's not even hidden, how much worse can it get?

We are not safer.  We are more hassled and taxed, but we are not safer.

I feel sorry for the woman whose face is now on every news station, but she did us a favor.  

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin

The airlines wanted to, but the government told them they could do it better!  sound familiar

Scruffygeist
Scruffygeist

Cut yourself some slack...the Cubs lose quite a bit.

Tim Covington
Tim Covington

I don't know about now, but in the early 90s all of the sick and injured were not sent to Parkland. I had a summer job driving a courtesy vehicle for an airline at DFW airport during that time. Several times I had drive travelers to a hospital in Irving for various issues (usually flying with an ear infection).

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin

Its all a part of a dirty plan to stick it to Dallas and shove it up Dallas county's ass.  Maybe it has to do with the County jail and hospital are closer?  Or maybe there is some sort of agreement that was signed many years ago that said Dallas would handle all criminal and sick people.

LaceyB
LaceyB

Try puting a liquid (ex: shampoo) in one of those handy 3 oz-ers you can buy at Walgreens, and explaining why you have it in a different bottle than it was bought in. Let the fun begin.

We have a legendary story about 10 yrs old about feminine wash and two unhygenic searches behind a partition, courtesy AA in Chile. I guess Summer's Eve in the 3oz size never translated to the Chilean market.

Montemalone
Montemalone

Just make sure the plane's leavin' quick.

Honeybee
Honeybee

Strip-searching this woman wouldn't have accomplished anything.Frisking her or making her remove her diaper wouldn't have accomplished anything.

Her gun was in her purse going through a scanner.  Everyone, even old people and their bags, go through the scanner.

These same people who act like horses' asses about a jar of baby food couldn't catch a GUN going through a scanning MACHINE?

If the MACHINE doesn't catch a GUN, why bother with anything else?  

little old lady
little old lady

1) as soon as little old ladies commit acts of terrorism, your argument might be valid.2) this is proof that such security measures aren't exactly making anyone much safer.3) you fail.

Phelps
Phelps

Including the ones the dope tried to light with a match like a Looney Tunes bomb.

They also didn't -- and still wouldn't, even with the pornoscanners -- catch the panty bomber.

Both were caught by the only system that works, including on 9/11 -- aware, informed passengers.

Phelps
Phelps

"You don't professionalize unless you federalize."

So, you know, we now have "professional" nincompoops instead of the cheap nincompoops we had before.  It's going to take this country a century to recover from the sabotage Daschle managed over his "career".

pak152
pak152

I do it all the time never have a problem, even pack the mini-liquor bottles into the quart bag

putaro
putaro

The last published stats on the TSA's effectiveness at catching guns, simulated bombs, etc. when secretly tested was about 30% - that is, out of ten guns they would catch three. 

DoubleOJoe
DoubleOJoe

If this doesn't convince a few people that the TSA stations are nothing but security theater, I don't know what will. 

LaceyB
LaceyB

This is all BS. Isn't that just then saying that the only type of person who should be searched are those who fit terrorist profiles?

Furthermore, search misbehaving kids twice. Maybe then they can be quiet and act mildly civil at the airport.

Searching may not be doing much, but it is creating jobs, which we need. So, annoying, yes, but ineffective--up in the air, if you will.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin

super meh, your comments are failed.  As in, this is exactly why we need to screen little old ladies and kids.1. sure lets wait until something happens before we react (9/11, notsosmart)2. It is making us safer, because they obviously knew she had the gun by screening her

Montemalone
Montemalone

Kids should be checked with luggage.

Montemalone
Montemalone

Hell, a 65 year old, with arthritic fingers, probably couldn't do that, unless it's Betty White, but she probably flies private anyway.

Montemalone
Montemalone

Um, er, she WAS screened. For whateverthefuck reason, Gomer and Goober were probably too busy looking for loose change or forgotten Rolexes in the little boxes to be bothered to recognize the outline or what would probably be the single most important thing to recognize in the xray machine, besides, of course, full size tubes of toothpaste and nail clippers.

Phelps
Phelps

None.  

Because she's not a homicidal maniac (as shown by there not being a "resisting arrest" charge).

Having a gun doesn't instantly make you an insane murderer.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin

semantics, hvy.  Too bad it wasnt an extended clip AR

Hvydee
Hvydee

not with a 38 revolver.  she maybe could off 6 shots but then the reload time would slow her down

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin

Do we know her intentions, or was she just Barry Switzer'ing it?  Anyhow

Guest
Guest

I don't know that looking for guns in handbags is a post-9/11 security measure. I was under the impression that sort of thing was being done all along.

(and, unless this lady had intention to do harm with her gun on the airplane, catching her didn't make anybody safer).

Titus Groan
Titus Groan

And yet they subsequently lost track of her for the next 2 hrs, to the point where she was nearly in the air before they found her.  How many people could she have shot in that time?

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