Buy Up All the Dublin Dr Pepper You Can, Because As of Today It No Longer Exists

• You can get Dublin Dr Pepper at http://www.storeforknowledge.com/Dublin-Dr-Pepper-C898885048.aspx

• Moxie is only available in Vermont and Maine. Dublin Dr is at some sonics and Jasons's Delibut not in Chicago..

• This IS correct: #1. Dublin Bottling Works began bottling DrPepper before 1900. In addition to being the oldest bottler, and up until their shutdown in 2012 they were the ONLY bottler to stay true to the cane sugar formula, even when it was more expensive than High Fructose Corn Syrup, a risky gamble at times. A small business made good business decisions. This led to a devoted, growing, multi-generational following of Texans and others wanting that formula. #2. Until a couple of years ago, when HFCS prices crept up to the point DrPepper and others considered using SUGAR again, noone in corporate or the bottling world cared what Dublin did because the market was in HFCS. #3. NOW that DP/Snapple has new marching orders and sugar is quickly becoming the way to go, corporate tools and bottlers that didn't like the small but corner Dublin has in this market due to the vast number of people that would drive to Dublin or pay the shipping to get a couple of cases. Outside of a web presence that DrPepper is documented to have ENDORSED, no marketing or selling was done by the Dublin bottler outside their area. I've watched for about 20 years; Dublin lets you buy in the area or lets you the consumer pay to have it shipped in a limited amount (as agreed with corporate). Yes, you tools can find evidence of DDP outside of the area because of CONSUMERS that went there for the product or BUSINESSES that drove a truck to the shop in Dublin to get a pallet. If the sale happened at the Dublin Bottling Works (formerly Dublin Dr Pepper) loading docks, that is a sale within the license agreement. #4. DrPepper has changed the rules when it is financially and politically (internally) convenient. Your problem is that at the minimum tens of thousands of Texans and other customers ARE NOT HAPPY with corporate's actions. We WILL NOT go away, and this WILL NOT blow over. @DrPepper:disqus  will hear about this EVERY DAY until the Dublin plant gets their license back. Yes, you myopic corporate tools and bottlers can raise a fuss, and DrPepper can enforce it's trademark and support it's other bottler's efforts to regain a footing in the sugar market. BUT you all had better be prepared to REAP what you sow with the CUSTOMERS who are still king! Signed a loyal Dublin customer and former DrPepper customer in Austin, TX

• It isn't the tank ... it's the SELLER that has become the problem.

• If it doesn't say 'Dublin DrPepper' and it's not bottled at the plant in Dublin, TX, it is NOT the same product. You threw them under the bus because crappy HFCS is becoming expensive enough to go back to sugar. They should be REWARDED for sticking to the original recipe, not litigated out of business. You are business #fail.

• try reading dublin dr. pepper's response.  it's included in the article above.   either way, the two major violations presented: [1] dilution of brand - i.e., putting "dublin" in front of "dr. pepper".  did they do this? yes.  had they done this since the 90's, with corporate's knowledge and approval? yes.  did corporate even mention them and their product as such?  yes.  so this is basically a specious "legal" argument, the kind of thing lawyers use as leverage to win a bigger argument, the kind of thing lawyers can find in pretty much any legal agreement.  not that a legal agreement has any kind of binding anything once lawyers get involved.  in the legal system, you really don't have to have the most accurate or true position.  claiming putting "dublin" in front of "dr. pepper" dilutes...no, irreparably harms...no...*holding back tears*...*holding finger up for dramatic pause*...no, it destroys...*destroys!*...the brand -- ...well, that's just kinda silly, ain't it?[2] selling outside their territory - i.e., places outside of their allocated counties were in possession of and selling dublin dp.  was this happening?  yes.  why?  word of mouth, of course, but also in large part due to the internet.  the corporate dp website had linked to the dublin site, as well as directed people to them for purchase of pure cane sugar dp.  others, from examples i've heard, were people contacting dublin and asking them to supply dublin dp to them (via phone, for example - or even driving to dublin to get it themselves).  i think selling outside your territory, when you are providing a product that is not available by the local bottler, or when people are contacting you and purchasing it from you and you are not pursuing or trying to steal territories, is a bit different than what is imagined by the original concept of sales territories.  (perhaps i'm wrong - but it seems like something from days gone by, trying to keep typical salesmen from trying to undercut each other and steal areas from others.)  the problem is dublin had made something no one else made, had done it for years, and became known for it.  the internet allows fast access to information, and communication - something that can (and does) easily increase trans-shipping.  this doesn't work well in a system designed for interchangeable cogs that can all be replaced with the next generic bottler, where you would have no reason to get the product from anyone except your local bottler.  so does selling outside your territory include people outside your territory purchasing from you?  in the world with the internet, this is something that the territorially-defined bottling system is going to have to wrestle with any time any local bottler does something that makes their product a bit different or unique.  the local bottlers are pissed, because they see it as money out of their pockets (hello, dpdude) - but the people buying it see it as getting something their customers want, or will enhance their marketability.  they don't give a sh!t about the soft drink interbrand competition act of 1980.  it's sort of like amazon being unable to sell you a book because there is a local bookstore that has it. even though theirs is a softcover and you want the hardcover, which amazon has and can get it to you right away, with known service and dependability.  but, hey, maybe someday the local bookstore might get the hardcover.  maybe.  i'm sure local bookstores wish there was a book sellers interbrand competition act of 1980 they could fall back on, eh?so basically, i don't think your "bottom line" is as solid and simple as you make it out to be.  (though i'm sure corporate dp and the bottlers enjoy your sticking up for them.)  corporate allowed them to exist and do what they did - even showing approval by showcasing their product, approving their designs, and directing sales outside their territory to them - until they got big and other bottlers took notice.  from what i've seen, then - and only then - did corporate feel the need to step in (to placate other bottlers, it would appear).tell you what: i'll blame dublin for playing the sales and marketing game better than dp corporate or other bottlers.  i'll blame them for persevering with a product that eventually found favor in the marketplace.  i'll blame them for succeeding.  but what i won't do is blame them for corporate dp and other bottlers' inability to be good businessmen, for them turning to legal tricks to crush someone that was using their uniqueness and specialness to find success.  it's just too bad they were part of a system that didn't appreciate the value they added to the brand itself.  i guess this move is the best one the brightest business-minds of dp/snapple group could figure out.  or maybe it was the lawyers.  either way, it seems like a pretty dumb move, considering all the possibilities.

• Fact is DPS and their bigger bottlers wanted in on the "Retro" soda business... But needed Dublin Dr. Pepper out of the way first.... Pure and Simple Corporate Greed. We should see the "NEW SUGAR DR. PEPPER" on aisle shelves next week.

• I bought a case the day it went out of buissness not knowing it was going out of  buisness. and drank it , looked it up cuz i wanted more, found out it was out of buissness and was upset. but i drank it all. and it was my favorite drink too

• This is bull shit... why can't they bring something which is useful...

• Kyle, you are a sheltered moron. Shiner ain't even the best beer in Texas.  For that, you should look to St Arnolds, Real or Shining Star, to name but a few. 

• They did violate their agreement.  That's the bottom line.   Blame Dublin Dr Pepper for their own downfall.

• I've had Dublin Dr. Pepper and it was excellent. I like it more than the one made with corn syrup. What's saddest is, this is nothing but a case of corporate greed and avarice that's causing this. Dublin DP had that license for 120 years, and all of a sudden they were violating it? At the same time Dallas DP wanted to push their own version? This sucks...mainly because DP is the only soft drink I do like. Coke's harsh while Sprite and Pepsi are way too sweet, and I loathe Sierra Mist. If I can't find a DP, I'll do Root Beer or a 7-Up...but now I have to rethink my preferences. Apple juice? Gag...that's too damn healthy. Iced tea is too hit or miss. Water? BOR-ring. I guess I'll just have to turn to wine and beer. Because I'd have a hard time supporting a company whose owners so blithely spit on decency and tradition.

• Wrong. Shiner Bock is the best beer made in the US. I'm only sorry it's made in the backwoods state of Texas, where they seem determined to become as big a second rate banana republic as Mississippi.

• The "nature" of this issue is very simple, Wess -- once again, selfishness and avarice have taken preference over decency and respect. You blithely ignore the aspect of the argument that Dublin Dr. Pepper HAD a license to bottle the product, and Dallas DP used what very much looks like specious arguments so they could trash that license and sell only their version in their cans. That is not capitalism; that is thuggery (like any version of the Mafia), something that used to be considered shameful until the 1% built their own little pack of attack dogs like you to defend their disgusting behavior.

• Dr. Pepper is right. The question is whether they did this the right way. The blow-back indicates it could have been done with a smaller sledge hammer.

• Too bad

• There are Dairy Queens all over the country, and yet we here in Texas have our own unique version, "Texas Dairy Queens", or "DQ Country". Ford builds and sells trucks all over the country, yet here in Texas they market "Texas" versions sold by "Texas Ford Dealers". I could go on and on but the main thing I'm trying to point out is that over the past century there have been countless companies that all showcased and marketed a "Texas" version that was completely different from the mainstream product versions. The situation with Dublin Dr Pepper could have, and should have been treated the same. Any corporation being operated by someone with half a brain should have seen that Dublin Dr Pepper was just this opportunity... staring them in the eye like a diamond in the rough. So what do they do? They trounce on the Dublin folks, remove its name and overnight destroy the one thing that Dr Pepper had going for them that wasn't phony like most of their recent marketing ploys. Just think about it folks. They could have continued using the likes of Gene Simmons from KISS as their doctor pushing Cherry DP, their new Rambo knock off for all the guys second guessing their manhood, and yes, good old DUBLIN DR PEPPER for all those who remember what it was like to live in a small town and drink something simple, quiet and without all the fake stuff added. How about getting Willie Nelson or Sam Elliot as your "Dublin" pitch man. But instead of spreading the craze and following that Dublin Dr Pepper has enjoyed for over 100 years, and instead of actively promoting it and expanding its sales territory and easy to associate "Dublin" name, no Dr Pepper-Snapple has decided to follow in the footsteps of that Great Soft Drink leader of the past, "New Coke". Yes folks, Dr Pepper has finally caught up and surpassed Coke, not in sales and not in flavor, but in corporate stupidity. And this is the same drink that was founded here in Texas? It may be the same name of what was created in Texas, but let's face it, its no longer the same drink. What are these people in Plano thinking? Do they not realize that they turned their back on the old Dr Pepper headquarters in Dallas and tore it down? That they sold out to a foreign company? And now they expect us Texans to forget this latest debacle? I don't think so. I could care less if they are offering a similar version from Temple. Sorry Dr Snapple, it's not the same thing. Although you might quickly argue the taste will be the same, it still will not ever make up for what you had going in tiny Dublin, Texas. For you see Dr Snapple, its not the taste that Temple will try to copy that made Dublin Dr Pepper what it was. It was the name "Dublin", it was the town "Dublin", it was that tiny little bottling plant in "Dublin", and most of all it was the people of "Dublin". And you have destroyed it all. I'll say this, if I was the CEO of Dr Pepper Snapple I think I would have noticed by now that there must be something about this "Dublin Dr Pepper" thing going on southwest of Ft. Worth. I think I would have noticed that although you could buy our "regular" brew anywhere in America that there was something strange going on in Central Texas. A tiny bottling company who refused to change their formula to your current "High Fructose Corn Syrup" swill that you produce. I think I would have also noticed by now that there must be a reason that folks all over Texas (and a few other states as well) are willing to drive hundreds of miles each week just to buy a beverage called and labeled "Dublin Dr Pepper". Now I ask you big shots in Plano, exactly when was the last time anyone would drive that far for any of your current versions? With a little common sense I would have sent an ad agency into Dublin, videotaped a few commercials especially during their Dr Pepper Festival and launched a state wide marketing campaign promoting the town, the bottler and the "Dublin" version of the drink. And before long it would have crossed state lines and then....     More $$$$$ for everyone. So I ask, exactly what was the threat here? We all know from the numbers it wasn't sales. And since when does a bunch of Snapple drinkers care what folks in Central Texas do. But the bottom line is your suits screwed the pooch big time here folks, far worse than New Coke ever dreamed of. And speaking of Coke, isn't it interesting that Coke learned its lesson within weeks and quickly returned "Coke Classic" to the shelves. But no, not Dr Pepper. No lets keep forcing your current bad tasting, sometimes cherry and sometimes not versions on the masses. So exactly how many cases of diabetes has your current Dr Pepper caused since switching to HFCS years ago? Funny how your drink was around for decades before the switch and yet no one got sick from drinking it back then. Anyway I hope that everyone will boycott your line of drinks and will be switching over to Mr. Pibb as a result.

• There are Dairy Queens all over the country, and yet we here in Texas have our own unique version, "Texas Dairy Queens", or "DQ Country". Ford builds and sells trucks all over the country, yet here in Texas they market "Texas" versions sold by "Texas Ford Dealers". I could go on and on but the main thing I'm trying to point out is that over the past century there have been countless companies that all showcased and marketed a "Texas" version that was completely different from the mainstream product versions. The situation with Dublin Dr Pepper could have, and should have been treated the same. Any corporation being operated by someone with half a brain should have seen that Dublin Dr Pepper was just this opportunity... staring them in the eye like a diamond in the rough. So what do they do? They trounce on the Dublin folks, remove its name and overnight destroy the one thing that Dr Pepper had going for them that wasn't phony like most of their recent marketing ploys. Just think about it folks. They could have continued using the likes of Gene Simmons from KISS as their doctor pushing Cherry DP, their new Rambo knock off for all the guys second guessing their manhood, and yes, good old DUBLIN DR PEPPER for all those who remember what it was like to live in a small town and drink something simple, quiet and without all the fake stuff added. How about getting Willie Nelson or Sam Elliot as your "Dublin" pitch man. But instead of spreading the craze and following that Dublin Dr Pepper has enjoyed for over 100 years, and instead of actively promoting it and expanding its sales territory and easy to associate "Dublin" name, no Dr Pepper-Snapple has decided to follow in the footsteps of that Great Soft Drink leader of the past, "New Coke". Yes folks, Dr Pepper has finally caught up and surpassed Coke, not in sales and not in flavor, but in corporate stupidity. And this is the same drink that was founded here in Texas? It may be the same name of what was created in Texas, but let's face it, its no longer the same drink. What are these people in Plano thinking? Do they not realize that they turned their back on the old Dr Pepper headquarters in Dallas and tore it down? That they sold out to a foreign company? And now they expect us Texans to forget this latest debacle? I don't think so. I could care less if they are offering a similar version from Temple. Sorry Dr Snapple, it's not the same thing. Although you might quickly argue the taste will be the same, it still will not ever make up for what you had going in tiny Dublin, Texas. For you see Dr Snapple, its not the taste that Temple will try to copy that made Dublin Dr Pepper what it was. It was the name "Dublin", it was the town "Dublin", it was that tiny little bottling plant in "Dublin", and most of all it was the people of "Dublin". And you have destroyed it all. I'll say this, if I was the CEO of Dr Pepper Snapple I think I would have noticed by now that there must be something about this "Dublin Dr Pepper" thing going on southwest of Ft. Worth. I think I would have noticed that although you could buy our "regular" brew anywhere in America that there was something strange going on in Central Texas. A tiny bottling company who refused to change their formula to your current "High Fructose Corn Syrup" swill that you produce. I think I would have also noticed by now that there must be a reason that folks all over Texas (and a few other states as well) are willing to drive hundreds of miles each week just to buy a beverage called and labeled "Dublin Dr Pepper". Now I ask you big shots in Plano, exactly when was the last time anyone would drive that far for any of your current versions? With a little common sense I would have sent an ad agency into Dublin, videotaped a few commercials especially during their Dr Pepper Festival and launched a state wide marketing campaign promoting the town, the bottler and the "Dublin" version of the drink. And before long it would have crossed state lines and then....     More $$$$$ for everyone. So I ask, exactly what was the threat here? We all know from the numbers it wasn't sales. And since when does a bunch of Snapple drinkers care what folks in Central Texas do. But the bottom line is your suits screwed the pooch big time here folks, far worse than New Coke ever dreamed of. And speaking of Coke, isn't it interesting that Coke learned its lesson within weeks and quickly returned "Coke Classic" to the shelves. But no, not Dr Pepper. No lets keep forcing your current bad tasting, sometimes cherry and sometimes not versions on the masses. So exactly how many cases of diabetes has your current Dr Pepper caused since switching to HFCS years ago? Funny how your drink was around for decades before the switch and yet no one got sick from drinking it back then. Anyway I hope that everyone will boycott your line of drinks and will be switching over to Mr. Pibb as a result.

• As for Dr Pepper I like it!  As for what they did to the Dublin Dr. Pepper folks... just wrong!  I can certainly live the rest of my life without anymore of their products!  Hope all the corporate wheels rot in hell for killing Dublin Dr. Pepper!

• red stoneyWhat people don’t want to face, read the lawsuit.. anybody with a grade school education, can tell, the Dublin Plant owners thought they were above all else, especially the law.. All they had to do, was do what the contract said or work something out with Corporate to allow them to what they were doing. Corp had the power, what made them bring the heat down, was the way the local plant owners, were blantantly and right in Corp’s face, breaking the contract. That is the facts, live with it or continue to be lead astray

• Sad that this has turned into a stupid politics thing......

• Yes, I've been there, as I've said elsewhere. And it's not corporate greed that makes a bottler ship outside its territory and hurt other bottlers. Think about that for a change. Other small bottlers were being hurt by this.

• ...and may you go straight to your maker too...

• Isn't the pure sugar based dr. Pepper sold in the Dallas area markets more or less the same thing? Its around $6.00 per six pack and tastes great compared to the the mass produced artificially flavored dr. Pepper.... They're just halting sales of this one Dublin plant's version of it, but you can still buy the other stuff sold locally in Dallas, Plano etc., no??

• Good Morning "DPDude": You seem to have a very unpopular yet legally sound stance... I would actually like to discuss all this further off this comment thread if you wouldn't mind??  I can explain further if you have any interest.  Please contact me at dignan71@yahoo.com - I am putting together a story on this and would love to hear your thoughts!  Thanks! Don

• Jeeze, as if there weren't better brews in the whole United States of America to be had...anywhere?? Shiner is a good passable beer, but unless your tastebuds are either lacking finesse, or brainwashed into believing that coming from Texas automatically makes it better, try a few other beers, and not just those made in America. Beer tasting experts (yeah, they exist, and yes, they're for real) will tell you that Shiner is slightly above average next to what is available in the USA, and sub par to whats available elsewhere. Open your mind and expand your horizons... you just might find something that you can REALLY like. As far as Dr. Pepper is concerned, chemists have yet to discover a sweetener that even comes a light year from the taste of sugar cane. Corn syrup simply has no flavor and mysteriously no one has found that special ingredient that can turn a sows ear into a silk purse. And I love it!!  It simply underscores how bottlers view their consuming public: with complete disregard. The bottom line rules, baby, it RULES.

• So sad! My husband and I visit there for our 1 yr Anniversary because of our love for DP. The DP made with Imperial Cane Sugar really is better than other cane sugar. It will be missed! Glad we saved 1 bottle!

• Possibly one of the stupidest exchanges ever on the site.

• Greed is GOoD!

• Thaats Righhhht.  I remember now.  And when I heard him say that; somehow I got a strange feeling that he wasn't talking about Lloyds of London or Prudential or even Blue Cross.  Let me try to help him out; maybe he was having a Donald Trump flashback or something.  It's just hard to picture him as the Lone Ranger on a white Pegasus swooping down on Dublin from the sky rescuing the company (and all it stands for) from doom. 

• While I agree with everything you've said in your reply to 'Texas Proud', a discussion of politics almost seems a bit misdirected on this issue. But, if we are rightfully disturbed by what the republican party may be responsible for as far as shipping industry and jobs overseas, wouldn't we welcome a Chinese bottler who somehow got the original recipe and marketed a product with a completely new & original name with the *wink-wink* public's full knowledge of what was REALLY going on?  They could deny everything. And the public would once again be happy. Isn't it about time that people started demanding quality from what they buy, rather than blindly accepting cheaper quality, downsized packaging, and lies covering the truth? Fight back people! It's time you did.

• all good companies keep dirt on the all-stars, so if they need to come a'knockin' in the middle of the night they've got a legal way to make them disappear (or at least twist their arm until they quit on their own).  dublin dr pepper got too famous, got too much name recognition, got too many people calling them up to order their style of dp (which they alone had made throughout the years), and the quirky wunderkind suddenly got a target on its back and had to be put away.  for the good of the company and all the other less-unique members who play by the rules.  (which are enforced only when corporate needs to level the playing field.  before that, it was just some extra money and a cute, unique feather in the dp cap.)

• jesus, jim!  that's so crass and WRONG!!  how could they kill the town they LOVE!?  they said so in their press release, so it must be true.  just like they must be in the right because they won the court case.  seriously, the are going to continue supporting the dr. pepper celebrations in dublin, and the 5k run.  plus you can buy cane sugar dp in town lovingly crafted by another bottler who isn't a part of the community.  god dammit, jim, get yourself together and see the facts!  comply!

• yeah, i'm a bit pissed.  it's not just this one instance of course, it's just yet another example of this same kind of thing.  this one just hits a bit closer to home because i grew up going through dublin, and i enjoyed the dublin dp.  i think they deserved better treatment by corporate dp, i think corporate rolled them.  legally? sure, by their lawyer's interpretations.  heck, i'll even go so far as to say they probably legitimately broke the idea of territorial selling rights. (but i'll qualify that by saying i think they should have been considered a special case by corporate dp, and corporate dp should have considered the circumstances of how their product got into other areas.  but they weren't, and they didn't.)  so fairly or rightly? no. as you typed that, did you know how much energy i put into anything?  no, of course not.  it was just a clever barb.  very clever, mr dirty p1.  as long as we're slinging sh!t: just imagine if people like you cared about our world, how much better it would be?  there, now we've both said clever meaningless things about the other which we had no way of knowing from reading a few internet comments.  good game.  : )i believe dr. pepper was originally made in waco.  but is that seriously what would make this worthwhile for you?  if the dublin plant was in waco?  the dublin plant had been in business...what...120+ years, doing something unique and interesting.  they slowly built a business around it.  it became popular.  is that *not* capitalism?  is that not work and effort?  you see no value in that history and tradition?  it's just weird to me.  but i guess in an immediate-gratification, short-term-memory, use-it-and-toss-it culture, the value of history and tradition and quality isn't much.i'm not sure about dr. pepper in the basement of the alamo, but i've heard they've got a pretty sweet red and white bicycle down there.

• but doesnt it make you wonder why the link was there if they didnt want people to find out about it. I also read part of the disposition filed by dublin, which was also posted on DP facebook page where the CEO in 09 gave an interview with a six pack of dublin DP on his desk and said " there is no taste better than an ICE COLD DUBLIN DR PEPPER"

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• again with the all caps yelling and little actual content.  bravo, good sir.  bra-vo.   you know, i almost feel sorry to do this to you, but... here is a direct quote from the release (quoted in the article above, the one you're commenting on you know): With the central issues of trademark infringement and territorial selling ***rights*** resolved, the federal lawsuit DPS filed in June and Dublin's subsequent countersuit in a Texas state court will both be immediately dismissed.in addition, here is the very first paragraph from the press release from the dr pepper snapple group:Dr Pepper Snapple Group, Inc. (NYSE:DPS), and Dr Pepper Bottling Co. of Dublin, Texas, have resolved all litigation over the Dr Pepper trademark and distribution ***rights***, the companies announced today.i've put stars around the relevant word, just for you.  hope that helps.  if you need any other assistance reading, let me know. : )

• It doesn't have the tradition, history and small town feel that's just so awesome you got from Dublin... Corporate is trying to close that little town down... if they were smart, they'd have expanded an operation there in one of the other historic buildings... instead, they're just going to be boycotted and lose sales... I'm done w/them...

• Do we really care if most of it's made in Temple? Have you ever been to Dublin? It's the charm of where it was founded so, so many years ago... give us a break.. it's purely Corporate greed... -- just like "new coke" ... we can all boycott it and show them where it hurts!

• Corporate greed --- Boycott ALL Dr. Pepper! Dublin wasn't hurting them... it was only helping the Dr. Pepper name... now off to ditch all of the old Dr. Pepper tshirts I'd got over the years... and pour all the Dr. Pepper left in the house down the drain (of course, except the Dublin bottles I have here).

• excellent counterpoints.  oh, you made none, did you?  except to say they would have won in court.  oh, and you used caps.  that must make it true, right?  haha. unfortunately, the courts: [1] aren't fair, and [2] weren't there to decide based on the things i'm discussing.  that is something the parties involved need to take account of and consider, not the courts.  if you've gone to court, it's too late for meaning.  they settled a legal dispute based on legal issues, using lawyers who don't care about facts or truth and are just trying to find the best angle and interpretations of words/phrases/clauses to get their client what they want.  the courts are about interpretation, and who has the most time and money to get the interpretation they want. oh, or outspending the other side.as far as facts, i guess dublin dp made up all of the things in their legal response.  (not that you read it.)  and i guess all of the articles over the last year or two were also "TOTAL AND COMPLETE BULLSHIT" with "NO factual basis"?  please. if your best argument is a bunch of all caps yelling, saying "NO", and defending your position by claiming the courts are always fair and just in their decisions...  well, i think your other three fingers are pointing at the person who really needs to do their homework.  better get crackin'.

• where can i buy this in california? 

•  "I don't think I'm alone in viewing DDP as a unique soft drink that did not impact my buying habits of regular DP. " That perfectly describes me.  I was only an occasional buyer of DDP...but I loved the Texas roots, the history, the way DDP gave a reason why DP was unique and wonderful.    DPSG just ground all that out with its heel.  The lawyers, who do not understand what a beloved brand means to consumers, won.  Smarter marketers would have celebrated Dublin, built agreements for a specialty brand, made the most of this brand icon, but not the lawyers. Anyway, the other distributors get to see me walk away from the whole dang brand.  It doesn't mean anything good to me anymore.

• Cadbury is NOT a part of DP! You look like an idiot and it spreads misinformation about another company - who's not involved at all!

• Blame the bottler that wouldn't stop shipping into other small bottlers' territories (and hurting their businesses).

• Hope those other distributors like it when I end our family;s daily DP & diet DP purchases, just so Dublin won't get the 2 times a year we bought the 'special stuff."

• Whoops, mis-Liked.  AL, how about listening instead of just screaming?

• Agreed.  It's just that while the legal facts are straight-forward, the reality is a bit more convoluted.  I can no longer get the product I could get last week.  I can't get to Dublin, nor to Temple, and so I and others like me are left out.  That's most of corporate's potential customers.

• Agreed, it was a contractural issue.  In the real world, things like this can be worked out.  I don't know who wasn't flexible enough to do so, but regardless, I no longer have the option of getting this product.  I can't get it from Dublin, and I can't get it from Temple, because I live in ALBUQUERQUE, and y'all can't ship outside out of your territories.  And corporate won't make this product.  I really wish they'd figured out a way to fix this.

• Go back and read his replies again.  You clearly missed something significant.

• That's not carte blanche to distribute outside the territory they're contractually limited to. Can your kid get away with breaking rules at school because you have a picture of them on your desk?

• We're all eating too much sugar. It makes you use CAPITAL LETTERS too much.

• Everyone's eating too much sugar. Chill.

• This is such a perfect example of the power of marketing and branding. Some people who strongly prefer a certain brand will actually have the physical sensation of their brand tasting better than another identically made - but differently labeled - brand.

• HA HA! As a former employee at the Dublin dr Pepper warehouse I know first hand that it is run by an evil man(Kent Crouch). They dont even make it there anyways their equipment is too old, they turn it on once a week for the museum. Good riddens.

• ever thought they were not given much of a chance but to settle. i mean think about it. big corporation, millions of dollars to spend on lawsuits. little dublin with not the same resources has no choice but to sell out or face lawsuits which could possibly bankrupt the entire botting business there in dublin

• i don't know, but if i were to hazard a guess, i would bet the buy out was in lieu of continuing to fight the very expensive lawsuit that dr pepper/snapple was waging against dublin/the klosters.   something tells me they didn't just decide to sell because papa wanted new paneling in the wreck room..

• Except they cost twice as much as Tom Thumb as they do in Dublin.

• He said if he hired a health insurance company and they didn't serve his people well, he'd be happy to fire them and go to another insurance company.

• dublin did not try to venture into other territory and open up bottling plants to sell the dublin pure cane sugar version of DP. so there is no seizure of anything.

• first the wrongheaded "dr pepper ten" ad campaign, and now this. fuck you, dr pepper/snapple. you won your petty war, but you've lost a lifelong customer. i'll buy the heb generic from now on if i need a fix.

• most grocery stores probablty has the 10 ounce GLASS BOTTLES, if they havent alraedy been bought up by those who love the dublin DP.  When i was in the kroger in Grand prairie the other day they had 4 six pack bottles there

• do you think the company really cares about the little people or the history?  based on this i would say they dont

• it is kind of hard to fault Dublin when the main Dr Pepper page had a link to dublin dr pepper

• That is an ignorant thing to say. You wouldnt feel that way if you were kin to one of the founders of the Dublin plan, no would you. True DP owns the rights to its own product but that is not how to handle someone who has so boldly help make that product the soft drink of Texas. Its a huge slap in the face. Especially to those fourteen who now don't have jobs. Plus Dublin made a shitty product, good. They use REAL SUGAR. Not that high fructose corn syrup shit thats in everything else and giving people cancer like crazy.

• Nice comment...Stooge!

• I retract my boycott

• Boycott a Texas-based company because they bought out a distributor violating their contract! That's essentially what some of you are saying. DPSG employs a fair amount of good strong Texans too, you know. Did ya think of that? Dublin Dr. Pepper almost certainly violated the terms of their agreement with corporate, and then agreed to this settlement. Did anyone read their response? It's basically poor PR. It certainly does appear they brought some of this on themselves, don't let that get forgotten in the pitchforks and torches routine.

• Your point has nothing to do with my point. All I was addressing was the "beet sugar is unacceptable" piece of the rabblerousing. 

• They didn't just kill a soft drink, they killed a whole town!

• "Cane sugar is expensive compared to beet-sugar or HFCS". This it true because of tariffs/taxes applied to cane sugar after successful lobbying by the Corn industry. 

• We have very different definitions of "premium", you and I...

• tainted by corporate whores of course. mmmmmmmm...corporate whores....

• The Cane-Sugar DP available in Dallas absolutely does not taste the same as Dublin DP either

• We just took the Dublin DP tour this fall. Sad to see it go. It is true (as told to us by our Dublin DP guide) that the 8oz bottles and cans of Dublin DP are bottled in Temple based on Dublin's requirements. That said, 10oz bottles were still bottled in Dublin (by a very cool machine). To get a case of the 10oz bottles, you were required to bring in a case of 10oz empty bottles. I was collecting a case of them before this happened. Now I will never get my case of 10 oz DP bottled in Dublin. :-( Will you bottle my 10oz bottles with pure cane sugar DP for me?

• Your repeated comments as the 2nd oldest DP bottler only make you look like the guy that won when someone shot the better player.

• Ah...but the product is not the same, and still only made available in limited markets.  The "product" also included the nostalgia surrounding it for a great number of consumers.

• I'm sure it's all about politics.  There's no other good reason why they would immediately shut it down like that.  I fucking hate corporate politics.

• There would be over 1000 comments Ifn we were talking Shiner, that being said the only DP I ever partake in (once a year maybe) is the Dublin version...I always grab a case when my travails take me out that way, the wifey and curtain climbers love em. It's a big ass deal west o the Plex, kinda surprised it's such a hot button with the Dall-ass-ites. But I'd wager than even most of the hipsters know somebody out West that's told them about the greatness of Dublin DP..nothing's better than a float from the ice cream parlor in Dublin, Nothing!

• I am not a fan of the product, but I am a fan of the Heritage and the lineage to Texas.  I will miss talking about Dublins, but I think its important to note that NO ONE has mentioned the fact that Dublin's had multiple chances to adhere to the agreement they signed to stay in the 6 counties - How many Dallasites can get DDP's in town?  There's the argument right there.  Does it make DPS's actions right? not really. But are their actions legally justified?  Unfortunately for the fans, DDP made it so.

• I'm not sure anyone has answered the obvious question: Why on Earth would DPS *not* want to sell a popular niche product? This has nothing whatsoever to do with denying the North Texas Hipster Community (TM) a beverage that many may appreciate, but few actually drink. If DP made with sugar makes money for a DP bottler, you can bet your beard it will remain on the market. Instead this all about a franchisee which wouldn't respect the terms of it's agreement, and in doing so harmed other family-owned, independent Texas bottlers, albeit ones without cutsey storefronts and back-stories. Finally, here's a prediction: It doesn't matter if this turns out to be the most commented upon article in D.O,. history, because alll this huffing, puffing, and hissy-fitting will have precisely zero effect on DPS' bottom line.

• That's not the point.  Dublin Dr. Pepper is history.  They've been making that shit since 1891 and for Dr. Pepper to force them to halt production like that is what pisses everyone off.  It's also a huge hit for little ol' Dublin, TX.  That's all they had going for that small town...

• Is it just me or are people going a little bit overboard on this subject? I like Dr. Pepper, but I'd be much more up in arms if we were talking about Shiner not being made in Shiner anymore.

• you mad, bro? Just imagine if you put as much energy into something else as you do fighting for a soft drink, how better our world would be! It's a fucking soda/coke/soft drink! I'll err on the side of listening to people that know more about the situation than you do. I love history but if my kids grow up not being able to drink a soft drink, they'll live. You're acting like Dr. Pepper was made in Dublin, it wasnt!!!!! I've heard rumors that there are original cases of Dr. Pepper in the basement of the Alamo. What say you?

• As I stated earlier, Dr Pepper was created and the company was founded in Waco, NOT DUBLIN!

• The bottles you buy at Central Market/Tom Thumb have always been made in Temple.

• Just so you know, Dr Pepper started in Waco, not Dublin, which was hardly "the first."

• excellent question.  where can we get 12 ounce cans of cane sugar dr. pepper at non-nostalgic, non-glass bottle, non-10 ounce prices?  i guess at this point cane sugar dr. pepper *is* pretty much just nostalgia...but it wasn't, when dublin dp was distributing, huh?

• Gimme a break, AnnaLou! If 14 jobs are going to break Dublin, then it is not much of a town anyway. It is sad when anybody loses a job, but you give far more weight to this matter than it deserves. Most of Dublin is dairy cattle ranches, not bottling "Dublin Dr Pepper." America (and Texas) is not going to crumble because Dublin DP got nailed for a contract violation. Do you believe that you have the right to violate contracts you sign with people just because it is in your own best interest to do so? If you do believe that, then one day you will find yourself on the losing end of a legal battle just like Dublin DP did to themselves. If they did not want to abide by the contract limitations to which they agreed, then they never should have signed the contract.

• bullsh!t.  they didn't go out of business, they were pushed out by corporate.  very different.  further, this was done to them because they had a niche product that had come into demand, and other bottlers (like the 2nd oldest plant?) wanted in on the action that dublin dp had spent years (and more cost) operating in and building a rep in when no one else did.  even though corporate had watched them, approved of them, pushed business toward them from outside of their territory, stroking them and holding them up as cool.  suddenly, corporate decided to change their tune and try and force them to become a cog in the corporate machine.  when they wouldn't submit, but instead pointed out their history and what corporate had both allowed and supported, corporate sued them into submission.  something being labeled "capitalism" doesn't make it right.  "winning" in court doesn't make something right either.  dublin dp persevered with a product when everyone else moved away, but when it became a profit point corporate and the pissed off (jealous?) other bottlers sucker punched them.   also, your lack of care about history and culture is to your detriment.  unfortunately, there are too many people like you, which makes your view a detriment to everyone.

• If DPSG attempts to lie to consumers and sell a product claiming it has Imperial Cane Sugar and it does not, the first people in line to sue them will be the folks at Imperial.

• You are the one that does not get the point. Being a "Texas treasure" is not a legally binding status. Ownership of a trademark, tradename and product formula IS a legally binding status. Dublin had absolutely zero right to ever sell outside their contracted territory. This is a simple matter of contract law.

• TOTAL AND COMPLETE BULLSHIT! There is NO factual basis for your arguments. If there was a factual basis for them, then Dublin would have been victorious in court. You really need to do your homework.

• Dublin will likely become a ghost town as a direct result . As this will have a direct affect on the town's only other major industry. That would be the local police department ticketing out of town motorist.  :) 

• BULLSHIT! Dublin NEVER had any "rights". They were a licensee, and nothing more!

• There is no such thing as "the Plano-based bottling company" - Dr Pepper corporate (DPS) offices are in Plano. Bottling is done in independent companies' plants across the nation which operate under license from DPS. Up north, Dr Pepper was historically bottled by Coca Cola Bottling Company because of its limited market acceptance in those areas. It made no sense to have its own bottling operations when it could contract manufacturing, bottling and distribution from an established bottler in markets where demand was much lower. I am sure that it is going to break their hearts (and their bank account) knowing that you will never again buy their products. Just so you will know, not even the "Dublin Dr Pepper" was the original formula. I was a "Pepper" in the early 1960's, and I distinctly remember the original taste. Like all other Dr Pepper (and other soft drink products) Dublin Dr Pepper was watered down with more carbonated water and less syrup than the original formula. There has not been an "original formula" Dr Pepper manufactured since sometime in the late 1970's. You can compare it to buying a hamburger that costs the same as it once did, but is now smaller in size. The watered down version was created to increase shareholder equity and corporate profits. That is the nature of "free enterprise" in the greed-centered world of today.

• What an utterly stupid comment you made! Do you even understand the nature of this issue? The Dr Pepper Company is the exclusive owner of ALL formulas for Dr Pepper products. All bottling operations exist and function exclusively under license from The Dr Pepper Company (DPS), and DPS has the exclusive right to determine how, where and when its products will be manufactured, bottled and distributed. The company in Dublin is a bottling company, and they do not own the formula for any Dr Pepper products. They are a licensee. The bottling company has no rights to the formula except as granted by DPS. For the record, the Dr Pepper Bottling Company of Texas is also an independently owned (albeit by some of the major shareholders in DPS) company that operates under a license to manufacture, bottle and distribute Dr Pepper products. That operation formerly was a part of The Dr Pepper Company, but became a separate company and enterprise sometime in the late 1970's or early 1980's. Instead of getting on an emotional roller coaster over things you do not understand you might try reading about the facts and the law before commenting. It was the GOP, under Reagan, that ushered in the era of leveraged buyouts, destruction of companies, shipping American jobs overseas and turning us into a services sector nation for the benefit of corporate shareholders and executives. Under the GOP control of government we will always lose jobs to China, India and other places where labor is cheaper than here at home. But, in this case, it has everything to do with legal rights and nothing to do with politics. Trying to make this appear as an action resulting from a Democratic Administration is pure folly and idiocy.

• I've been a Dr. Pepper drinker for years.  I'm done with it today.  Dr Pepper is no longer the soda pop of Texas.

• Thank you so much, Donna! Your version of the historical account is spot on. Best, Garl

• Neither GOP nor Democrats have done enough for the small and "old" businesses in this country.  They are both flunkies for the corporate gorillas that run the world for the 1%.

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